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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: kt. on December 24, 2006, 20:47:37

Title: the last stand
Post by: kt. on December 24, 2006, 20:47:37
Had to pull my remaining beetroot today. Noticed some of it was being feasted on by the beasties in the ground. What I have left should make me 4-5 jars. Irregular shapes to summer but all tastes the same  :D
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Merry Tiller on December 24, 2006, 21:17:39
Try some roast with your Christmas dinner, much nicer than pickling I think
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Curryandchips on December 24, 2006, 21:25:19
I agree on roast beetroot, needs a separate roasting tray though ...
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: timelady on December 24, 2006, 22:04:47
Roasted beetroot, yummmmmy! Don't need a separate tray though, if you don't mind the rest of the veggies being a bit pink. :)

Tina.
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: euronerd on December 25, 2006, 22:52:08
I just wrap them in foil and roast as normal  8)

Geoff.
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: saddad on December 26, 2006, 11:57:34
I still have a few with some late swede and winter radish which I've been instructed to go and fetch!
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: allanwoolley on December 26, 2006, 16:29:06
Hi Euronerd, would Beetroots wrapped in foil be more likely to be regarded as 'baked' rather than 'roasted'
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Merry Tiller on December 26, 2006, 17:37:23
I'd love to know what the difference between baked & roasted is ???
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Curryandchips on December 26, 2006, 17:50:32
In my own experience, this is simply an interpretation of degree of heat.

Baking therefore, is gentle heat, which cooks the food adequately, but not excessively. Wrapping in foil etc is often used to achieve this.

Roasting, whilst similar, uses more severe heat, which produces more browning and caramelisation ...

Any clever cooks out there who can give a better explanation?
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Froglegs on December 26, 2006, 17:59:26
So what ya saying is if it's not burnt it's baked...but if it is burnt it's roasted ;)
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Merry Tiller on December 26, 2006, 18:47:48
There must be a definitive explanation, even Wikipedia can't tell the difference though it does mention that roasting sometimes causes caramelization
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Curryandchips on December 26, 2006, 18:51:34
Quote from: froglegs on December 26, 2006, 17:59:26
So what ya saying is if it's not burnt it's baked...but if it is burnt it's roasted ;)

Excessive roasting may result in being burnt, but fortunately that experience is now behind me  :D
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: euronerd on December 26, 2006, 23:05:07
I just wrap them in foil and heat them in an oven as normal ;D

Geoff.
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: purple sprouting on December 26, 2006, 23:33:54
If the smoke alarm goes off it's roasted and if it doesn't it's classed as baked!!
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: grawrc on December 27, 2006, 14:15:56
I believe that roasting involves the use of fat/ oil or such like whereas baking (of vegetables) is more the use of surface steam? ie wrapped in foil but loosely to allow heat and condensation to deevelop which then cooks the vegetables.
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: tim on December 27, 2006, 15:30:21
Well said, Anne. Not necessarily wrapped - potatoes, whole onions?
Roasting can also be called oven frying - as opposed to that lovely term, pan frying!!

Yes, Curry - but baking is only slower because air is a poor conductor. Same heat.  In the same way that thawing is quicker in water at 40F than in a fridge at the same temprature.
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Merry Tiller on December 27, 2006, 15:41:12
Yes, maybe that's it, hence the difference between roast and baked spuds
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: Curryandchips on December 27, 2006, 15:58:54
Succinctly put Tim. How I detest that term - pan frying ! Yes, the cooking process is far more intense through having a liquid, together with basting. Somehow I missed this essential fact. Akin to putting your ungloved hand in an oven at gas 5 - no problem until you touch the hot fat ...  :o
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: tim on December 27, 2006, 16:32:00
Touché - in both senses!!
Title: Re: the last stand
Post by: carloso on December 30, 2006, 21:29:41
Curry :-   Baking therefore, is gentle heat, which cooks the food adequately, but not excessively. Wrapping in foil etc is often used to achieve this.

Roasting, whilst similar, uses more severe heat, which produces more browning and caramelisation ...


I dont think that it could be put better and simplistically (i may spell one day) !!!