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Title: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on December 19, 2006, 16:46:28
I've got:

Boysenberry - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/boysenberry
and a beautiful thornless blackberry with very decorative split leaves.
Strawberry tree
Physalis
2 year old date palm - 3 leaves, and 4th appearing.


Am looking to exchange for:

Japanese Wineberry, figs (other than brown turkey), chinese dates or other other interesting fruiting plants. I am based in Cambridge.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: cambourne7 on December 20, 2006, 12:05:50
great to see another cambridge grower, unfortunatly i cant help.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: Ceratonia on December 20, 2006, 15:13:43
I've got some rooted Jostaberry cuttings going spare and some seeds for other interesting fruiting plants (eg huckleberry). Looks like you're not too far from Scotsdale, too!
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: saddad on December 20, 2006, 17:19:04
I have Jostaberry cuttings as well! Will be tip rooting Fantasia Brambles but nthing off your list! Sorry.
::)
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on December 21, 2006, 03:49:41
Ceratonia - would love to get a Jostaberry and Huckleberry - What can I offer you? Will have to wait until after Chritmas I'm afraid as up in Leics atm.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: saddad on December 21, 2006, 07:44:48
If you are in Leicester itself, or further North you are about 45 mins from Derby....
::)
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: Ceratonia on December 21, 2006, 09:13:03
Quote from: funplants on December 21, 2006, 03:49:41
Ceratonia - would love to get a Jostaberry and Huckleberry - What can I offer you? Will have to wait until after Chritmas I'm afraid as up in Leics atm.

No problem - have no spare time until January anyway...

I have a few other things that may interest you, for example, Ceratonia siliqua (Carob) and Eriobotrya japonica (Loquat)? Come and have a look round if you like.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 09, 2007, 16:38:31
Am now back in Cambridge - Have started rooting 2 boysenberry tips....should be ready in a few weeks at this rate.:)
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: cambourne7 on January 09, 2007, 17:19:00
At what stage do you do that and how?
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: saddad on January 09, 2007, 17:41:18
If your not careful Louise they will touch down and do it them selves in the summer but any time the plant is actively growing... like brambles.
;D
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 09, 2007, 18:13:58
Nothing complex!.....but I prefer to keep brambles in large pots so they don't go too mad! All you do is take a cane, and stick the end in a pot. Roots grow, and you get a new plant.

People always have arguments as to whether you put the tip in the soil, or just bring the cane down to the ground and bury part of it leaving the tip exposed.

I personally go for the tip as that's where the most active growth is, but new shoots take longer to develop, and hence it takes longer for the plant to be independent enough to be cut off from the parent, but I thing that the plant has a better root, and grows better in the long run.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: cambourne7 on January 10, 2007, 22:36:06
Fruit cage is going to be my march project, most of my fruits are in a nusery bed.

I plan to prepare some beds for the fruit fill with maure and leave till the winter when i can move them.

I was going to prepare a bed 10 by 2 for boysenberry at the end which is most vunerable to vanalism so that the thorns are a deterant as they climb up the fence but i have only got the one plant to start with so i dont mind a little bit of spread.

I was going to get some lenths of wood 12ft long and tie them rope ladder style and hang this behind the boysenberry so that when it comes to harvest i can use this robe ladder to bow the brambels back towards me so i can get to all the fruit and to help with watering so that in the high summer i can use this to add a drip hose.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 10, 2007, 22:58:46
If you're after the prickles, then perhaps you want something a little more vicious than a boysenberry? I've got a Loganberry as well that I could get you a few cuttings from?

As an aside, I'm hoping to obtain a Japanese Wineberry as well if you'd like a cutting when I get....so potentially, you should be able to get an interesting assortment of soft fruits.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: cambourne7 on January 10, 2007, 23:11:56
wow way cool!!

What do they taste like???
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 11, 2007, 12:29:35
Loganberries are larger and juicier, and a little more tart than blackberries. Wineberries are smaller and redder, and very sweet. The big plus with wineberries, is that you don't get the same degree of spoilage due to insects, because the fruits are protected until they are ripe by the plant.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: cambourne7 on January 11, 2007, 19:44:02
sounds nice  ;D

How do the plants get protected??
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 11, 2007, 22:12:22
The calyx doesn't open until the fruits are almost ripe. As a result, bugs don't get to them first.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 11, 2007, 22:20:47
http://www.blackmoor.co.uk/index.php?cPath=382

Note the picture looks like a cherry, not a wineberry.
Title: Re: Soft Fruits - BoysenBerry, blackberry, strawberry tree, date palm
Post by: funplants on January 11, 2007, 22:32:37
A picture of them:

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup/food/fruits/berries/1837111_wineberry.php?id=1837111

They only open up revealing the fruit when virtually ripe.