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General => Computers / Internet => Topic started by: kenkew on December 10, 2006, 10:21:53

Title: Explorer 7
Post by: kenkew on December 10, 2006, 10:21:53
Anyone installed this and was there a problem with it?
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: RSJK on December 10, 2006, 13:24:56
Installed it last night, up to yet no probs, the only thing that I do not like and I do not know if it might not be me using it correctly is that, when you close a tab it asked if you want to close it and when you reply yes it closes down all the pages that you had been looking at.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: djbrenton on December 10, 2006, 13:56:42
The main problem you're likely to encounter is that many websites only recognise up to IE6 and can display badly in IE7. The latest version of Internet Explorer isn't really so desirable that it's worth installing until some issues are resolved. These include problems with some ActiveX controls.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: sarah2210 on December 10, 2006, 15:41:04
Quote from: Richard Kinson on December 10, 2006, 13:24:56
Installed it last night, up to yet no probs, the only thing that I do not like and I do not know if it might not be me using it correctly is that, when you close a tab it asked if you want to close it and when you reply yes it closes down all the pages that you had been looking at.

This should only happen when you use the red cross to close the tabs, it then closes all the tabs. To close an individual tab, click on the grey cross on the top of the tab you want to close. I struggled with this after I first installed IE7 too.

Hope this helps,

Sarah
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: ken (69) on December 11, 2006, 12:27:31
Don't see the point of Tabs, why, when you have windows on windows. Same thing surely.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: OllieC on December 11, 2006, 12:51:07
I installed it on my laptop before realising that it's supposed to be a baddy. In terms of use, I can't really see much difference & haven't had a singly problem yet, even using it on a few fairly specialist sites (as a Financial Adviser, I use lots of non customer facing sites which are often less user friendly than the general public would get). Haven't had any Active X issues yet...

Maybe I'm missing something!

Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Larkshall on December 11, 2006, 16:20:29
Quote from: ken (69) on December 11, 2006, 12:27:31
Don't see the point of Tabs, why, when you have windows on windows. Same thing surely.

No, it's not quite the same. Tabs allow you to have several websites open at the same time, you can be logged on and stay logged on when you switch to another open website. I have five gardening websites open at the same time and can switch from one to another whilst staying logged in on all of them.

Re. the active-X problems and various others. I run several websites and one of them is regularly used by a large number of people. It consists of HTML, Jalbum (JPG's) and PDF files. HTML is used for indexes of links (although PDF's could be used for it), Jalbum files are used for slideshows which the viewer can control themselves, and PDF files are used for fixed text and graphics (mostly photo's) which can be viewed or printed at any size the viewer requires. Although I have links for viewers to email any problems to me I have received none for the last two years (since I stopped using HTML for documents for printing out). One of the popular PDF files on the site contains the months lighting-up times (sunrise, sunset and moon phases).
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: glow777 on December 11, 2006, 19:56:35
Quote from: ken (69) on December 11, 2006, 12:27:31
Don't see the point of Tabs, why, when you have windows on windows. Same thing surely.
Tabs use less system memory. Every instance of IE launches a new instance object and lots of memory. Each tab uses the parent windows memory and a little amount of extra system ram. Also handles session cookies better+ multiple homepages etc etc etc
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Larkshall on December 12, 2006, 07:23:44
Quote from: ken (69) on December 11, 2006, 12:27:31

Tabs use less system memory. Every instance of IE launches a new instance object and lots of memory. Each tab uses the parent windows memory and a little amount of extra system ram. Also handles session cookies better+ multiple homepages etc etc etc

Are they still doing that!

Tony Tebby got over that problem with the Sinclair QL way back in the 1980's. Once a program had loaded a second copy used the same info. After all, it only had a memory stack of 128Kb.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: glow777 on December 12, 2006, 09:18:22
Quote from: Larkshall on December 12, 2006, 07:23:44
Are they still doing that!


Yup - run multiple instances of IE do a CTRL ALT DEL and look at the processes. They do slightly decrease in size so there must be some caching going on.

The problem with powerfull computers is that it creates sloppy programming.

I shall now retreat back to the safety of my UNIX machine and stop moaning!
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: ken (69) on December 12, 2006, 09:46:08
That's handy, being able to stay logged on.
Aint desktop shortcuts..TABS.

Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: kitten on December 12, 2006, 13:57:04
Arrgggggh - my laptop has just tried to install the dratted IE7 upgrade - thanks to you all for warning me not to! Although i'm still not clear on what the actual problems are, i think i'll hang on until some of these glitches are sorted! Thanks everyone  :-*
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Mac49 on December 12, 2006, 21:14:48
I've been using it since 14th of Sept, no probs at all. Mac
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Spruance on December 13, 2006, 16:03:27
I installed it at the weekend as it was 'offered' on Microsoft Update. I had resisted the Beta version, but reasoned that if it was on 'general release' it should be ok.

I don't like the tabs so I have turned that off. I also don't like the fact that it is no longer possible to send an email direct from the browser window as was possible with IE6. Well, it is possible, but it means opening a message window by means of using the send link (or page) by email, and then deleting the link. Which is a lot of faffing about for nothing.

I have noticed more page download failures than I am used to, although hitting refresh seems to improve the situation.

One thing that is very useful is the zoom facility. I realise that it was already possible to increase the text size, but a lot of websites don't appear to respond to that command, but with the page zoom it is like having a magnifying glass available at all times. I also like the text enhancement feature.

Furthermore, unless it is my imagination, download speeds seem faster. I downloaded a 3.2Mb music track in two seconds flat last night (2Mb Broadband) and thought something must have gone wrong but all was ok when I played it.

Like everything else it will take some getting used to, but having used it for a few days, I think I will probably stick with it now.  ;)
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: tim on December 13, 2006, 16:41:00
Don't want to change & I hate having the thing start to download with no warning. Then have to switch off to stop it!
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Mac49 on December 14, 2006, 00:08:46
When I downloaded it in Sept. it was RC1 not Beta.
Mac.
PS. I meant to say, "no probs since I downloaded in Sept." to much whisky.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Ken 70 on December 14, 2006, 14:42:49
I deleted IE7 yesterday but it tried to come back as an update today as part of other 'improvements'.
Only thing is to switch off automatic updates.
IE7 can be configured to IE6 so no big deal.
Tho for their cheek might go to Opera or Firefox.
Time I.T stood still for the users to catch up. Every time a geek passes out of college, all change.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: glow777 on December 15, 2006, 07:49:40
Quote from: Spruance on December 13, 2006, 16:03:27
I also don't like the fact that it is no longer possible to send an email direct from the browser window as was possible with IE6.

I can do this on mine, you must have a customised toolbar as mine was there by default. Right click near the buttons and see what you can add in
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: kt. on December 15, 2006, 15:08:46
Had no problems with it. I installed it over a month ago. Been fine. :)
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Curryandchips on December 15, 2006, 20:53:01
Bit the bullet and just installed it ... will take time to get accustomed to its idiosyncracies I guess ...
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Ken 70 on December 19, 2006, 15:05:21
Had IE7...uninstalled it, went back to IE6...now auto updates have put back IE7 (with, interestingly, my IE7 settings). The IE7 software couldn't have 'uninstalled' as the update was only about 20mins on dial up as against two hours originally. So that means IE7 (most of) wasn't uninstalled.
Doesn't matter tho, even the menu bar can be configured back so that all looks like IE6. Why oh why didn't Microsoft just do a few "add on's" and point the users to this. They risk losing customers to Firefox and Opera.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: tim on December 19, 2006, 18:15:16
HELP -- b-in-law has just had IE7 wished upon him - crapped everything - he can uninstall in Control Panel?? But how get back to IE 6??

Please!! He's in a slough!!
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: muddy boots on December 19, 2006, 19:02:04
I need that answer too, Tim! 
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: davy1 on December 19, 2006, 20:16:51
Microsoft has decided that all windows xp users up grade. the programe is set to be delivered via automatic updates. However how IE7 reaches you is down to how you have your automatic updates set. If you do not want it turn off your automatic updates.
So i supose if you have got it and dont want it you would turn off automatic updates, uninstall IE7, then go to windows download and reinstall IE6 and DO NOT turn Auto updates back on.
Does that seem about right
DavyW
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: tim on December 22, 2006, 06:55:26
Thanks, everyone - so sorry about the delay in acknowledging.

B-i-L is being suitably briefed!
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Curryandchips on December 22, 2006, 08:38:09
Quote from: Ken 70 on December 19, 2006, 15:05:21
even the menu bar can be configured back so that all looks like IE6

The menu/toolbar layout is the only thing I currently dislike about IE7, mainly the refresh button being in the middle somewhere ... can anyone guide me on how to edit this?
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Spruance on December 22, 2006, 16:43:15
As far as I can determine it is not possible to move the refresh icon. On the other hand it is possible to add or remove icons on the menu bar by right clicking and selecting Customize Command Bar.

This (http://www.tech2.com/india/reviews/windows-software/internet-explorer-7/2402/0) Indian website has some useful information on IE7.
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: Garden Manager on December 27, 2006, 17:06:55
I decided to give IE7 ago a short while ago. Not had any problems with it really, except for geting used to the new screen layout. That said its not my main browser (mostly use AOL), but do use it occasionaly, particularly when AOL wont load a site properly. Also use it to access hotmail (or Windows Live Mail i should say).
Title: Re: Explorer 7
Post by: pntalbot on December 28, 2006, 09:32:26
Have IE7 loaded, no problems,but running alongside, is MOZILLA  FIREFOX, much better.