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Produce => Wildlife forum => Topic started by: Palustris on November 17, 2006, 16:01:50

Title: Bird of prey
Post by: Palustris on November 17, 2006, 16:01:50
We thought buzzard, but possibly a young one or?????
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 17, 2006, 16:50:16
Has to be.
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Post by: Emagggie on November 17, 2006, 17:10:06
Beautiful bird. Great photo.
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Post by: flatcap on November 17, 2006, 18:52:20
could it be a young sparrowhawk
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Post by: tim on November 17, 2006, 19:23:50
Got to be a buzzy?

What's up with them this year - they're all into this low-fly business.
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 18, 2006, 09:20:30
I wonder what they're feeding on. They're extremely adaptable; in some parts of the country they used to be known as 'rabbit hawks' as this was their main diet. If you think about how many rabbits one would have to kill, as opposed to the number of worms, you can see that this must have been a fairly easy life for them as long as there were plenty of coneys. After myxamotosis, they started hunting like kestrels, hovering (clumsily), looking for insects and small mammals. Yours may be adapting to another type of prey altogether.
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Post by: Palustris on November 23, 2006, 20:48:06
Think the colour may have been affected by the sunlight. This is it with the redness much reduced.
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Post by: froglets on November 24, 2006, 08:03:27
My proximity to the M6 means we see a lot of buzzards.  A few weeks ago I drove over one of the many mootrway bridges and one very lazily floated just high enough to clear the railings, waftet across my front then dropped down to the verge below.  Blimey they're big when that close!

We frequently see them sitting on fence posts sizing us ( more likely field rabbits) up or circling overhead.  Never have my camera with me when that happens.  Great pictures.
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Post by: manicscousers on November 25, 2006, 20:49:53
lovely pictures, nice blue sky behind as well  :)
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Post by: steveuk on December 31, 2006, 19:54:49
i think you find that she is a female kestrel ,

happy new year all
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Post by: sawfish on February 05, 2007, 17:24:25
its a young female kestrel
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Post by: Toadspawn on February 05, 2007, 17:30:44
I would go with the Buzzard.
Kestrels are smaller, have a different wing shape and are a different colour.

Watched six Buzzards circling around last weekend and the call sends shivers up my spine. Gret to hear.
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Post by: sawfish on February 06, 2007, 17:49:50
Believe me its a Kestrel. I know my birds very well.

(http://www.stevenround-birdphotography.com/images/kestrel-15.jpg)
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Post by: Emagggie on February 06, 2007, 22:13:59
Oh wow, what a fabulous photo,Sawfish.
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Post by: Palustris on February 07, 2007, 10:24:54
I am not really into this arguement about the id of the bird we saw. All I will say is that having spent the last 12 years watching buzzards, sparrow hawks, kestrels, kites and even once a peregrine falcon, all near to here, this bird neither looked, nor  flew like any of the above. The photo I took was at extreme range with the sun in the wrong position so it is hard to see the true colour of the bird.
Having talked to other bird experts in this area, it seems that there is a very peculair and so far unidentified hawk flying around.
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Post by: kenkew on February 07, 2007, 11:56:03
Not usual for a bird of prey to feed on the wing other than to bring down another bird. But if it is feeding on the wing, then this time of year makes sense to fly low. Insects flying in cooler weather don't go high.
I wonder how it catches anything. With a kestrel shaped beak it must have to catch something with a downward flip of the head, ahead of the insect.
Very strange...looking forward to hearing more about this fella.
Title: Re: Bird of prey
Post by: sawfish on February 09, 2007, 19:34:48
I am convinced the pictures you have are a kestrel Palustris. The facial markings, the bars at the end of the tail, the wing shape, the breast colouring.

I'd bet my pumpkins on it.
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Post by: flossie on February 09, 2007, 22:04:33
Stunning pictures Eric - thank you - do let us know if you find out any more...
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Post by: ferreter on February 11, 2007, 09:32:10
its definately a kestrel. in reply to kenkew, it wouldnt catch things with its beak ,they use their feet even when taking prey in mid air.
To see a true master of this try to  watch a hobby{very small bird of prey} catching dragonflies.