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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Rosyred on November 11, 2006, 06:52:19

Title: Curly Kale
Post by: Rosyred on November 11, 2006, 06:52:19
Morning, I've gown curly kale as I loved it when buying at the supermarket but i'm finding mine quite tough and chewy when cooked. Is there anything I can do?

I've read different things like only eat top baby leaves and wait till a frost. I'm off to the allotment this morning to bring some home for dinner tomorrow.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: adrianhumph on November 11, 2006, 08:49:55
 Hi Rosy,
               I grew curly kale last year, & kept cutting the new growth & using that, the more you cut the more it grew ;D This year I am trying cavallo nero (black kale) This I think is much better giving longer lasting tender leaves.

                                                                 Adrian.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: saddad on November 11, 2006, 08:55:30
The tougher stuff can be used to make soups...
:-\
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 11, 2006, 09:10:58
We've been picking for a month or so & yes, it has 'substance', but shredded & well & fast cooked, I would call it 'chewy'? Don't know how the markets get it any tenderer - just variety?
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Rosyred on November 11, 2006, 10:02:10
Many thanks it not just me then. :)
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: artichoke on November 11, 2006, 13:49:38
I have found cavalo nero slightly heavy going, but I boiled some up with some spinach the other day, and it seemed to lighten and sweeten it - it was lovely. I cooked it a bit longer than usual and ate it with curried dahl and yoghurt, one of my favourite meals.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Mrs Ava on November 11, 2006, 14:34:25
My nan swears by a pinch of bicarb in the cooking water.  Yes yes, I know it probably removes some of the nutrients or something, but her cabbage and kales are always sweet and tender.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Rosyred on November 11, 2006, 16:02:36
Mum used to do that when I was a child it softens the water she said.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 11, 2006, 17:00:21
It is generally advised not to use bicarb in aluminium pans. 

Softening water? Only helpful if it is very acid.

Does help colour, but so does lid-off cooking.

May destroy Vitamin C.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: LILACSPLASH on November 11, 2006, 22:18:39
If you have aluminium pans get rid rid of them right now as they can contribute to altzimers
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Merry Tiller on November 12, 2006, 00:40:06
QuoteIf you have aluminium pans get rid rid of them right now as they can contribute to altzimers

An old theory ::)
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 12, 2006, 11:00:17
The main accepted danger, surely, is damage to the pans by salt or acid?
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Marymary on November 12, 2006, 20:32:28
Like Tim I shred it quite finely having pulled out the stalks but then I steam it briefly & it's lovely with a thingy of butter.  I steam all veggies - haven't boiled any for many years.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: cambourne7 on November 12, 2006, 21:40:56
Boil your hock of ham.

Take it out and wrap in tin foil.

Then add the kale to the water ( the natual salt in the ham water will soften the kale )

Its yum yum yum

10 min before the kale is nice and soft pop the ham into a oven with a couple of dashes of apple cider over the meat and bake :-) for about 15 min

Then add the drained and shreaded kale to mashed potatos

yum yu yum
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: OllieC on November 13, 2006, 08:23:04
Quote from: Marymary on November 12, 2006, 20:32:28
Like Tim I shred it quite finely having pulled out the stalks but then I steam it briefly & it's lovely with a thingy of butter.  I steam all veggies - haven't boiled any for many years.

A "thingy" of butter... is this a new measurement, or has the robot misunderstood that one rarely uses male genitalia as a unit of measurement in cookery.

Gave me a chuckle in the morning...
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: froglets on November 13, 2006, 10:25:16
LOL here - just worked it out - a door thingy of butter........
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: dandelion on November 13, 2006, 10:33:33

a knob of butter


Here's the trick:


http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,91/topic,21211.0
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Barnowl on November 13, 2006, 11:47:20
We grew dwarf curly Kale and have been harvesting since Summer. Never eat the stalks but the leaves have been fine. We've also become fans of Cavolo Nero which we've been cropping over the same period.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 13, 2006, 12:00:42
Don't like black - or purple (cabbage)

But what's the dwarf stuff?
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Barnowl on November 13, 2006, 12:43:54
Can't remember where I got the seeds from, but it's usually described as
Kale (Borecole)Curly Green  Dwarf . It's quite a lot shorter than normal kale with smaller leaves, but tastes the same - perhaps a bit more tender. We're a bit tight for space so it has turned out to suit us well.

http://www.suttons-seeds.co.uk/cffiles/details.cfm?var_ref=2065&rand=0.579097139237&cat_ca_ref=507 (http://www.suttons-seeds.co.uk/cffiles/details.cfm?var_ref=2065&rand=0.579097139237&cat_ca_ref=507)

http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seeds/pages/vegb.htm (http://www.nickys-nursery.co.uk/seeds/pages/vegb.htm)
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Marymary on November 13, 2006, 18:01:14
My thingy of butter made me smile too as I hadn't noticed the change.  now to try the trick
knob of butter  ::)

yep it works - who thinks of these things?
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 13, 2006, 18:32:19
Someone with a prurient imagination.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: redimp on November 13, 2006, 18:44:11
I have grown Dwarf Curly Kale, got it from HomeGarden Seeds - now defunct ???  Also growing Red Russian and Cavalo Nero.  Love all kale and the stuff I have growing is lovely :)
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 13, 2006, 18:50:41
Thanks, Barny.
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: Pete the Plot on November 14, 2006, 13:05:55
Quote from: saddad on November 11, 2006, 08:55:30
The tougher stuff can be used to make soups...
:-\
Here in Scotland Kale is (or was) traditionally used in soup, so much so that we ofter called ANY veg based soup "kale".
Got lots on the plot and enjoy it as a veg or as "a plate o' kale" ;D
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: zoro on November 18, 2006, 15:05:06
One of my best products in my first year ...i  fry chopped up onion and bacon ...when onions soft and bacon browned ...add shredded Kale ..stir fry 4 mins add soys sauce if required great... !!
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: tim on November 18, 2006, 16:36:58
Right up my street!!
Title: Re: Curly Kale
Post by: cornykev on November 18, 2006, 18:31:05
:D Stop it Zoro my mouths watering, and lilac you have worried me with the Alzheimer's I was off to throw me pans away but I can't remember where I put them.

                 May the corn be with you.