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Title: Fennel Failure
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on November 09, 2006, 18:57:31
Hi Everybody.....

I'm new here b.t.w. Very nice site......
Yesterday I dug up the first fennel bulb of the year - the 8th of November for goodness sake! I had complete failure of the previous 3 sowings (bolting). Did anyone else have problems this year, or was it just me? Also, are there any varieties claimed to be bolt resistant? I live in Chester.

What's the point of getting a Mediterranean climate, when you can't grow fennel?

RhubarbThrasher
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: thomasb on November 09, 2006, 19:36:11
Hi,
I have read that florence fennel will bolt if sowed when its too cold or alllowed to get too dry.
Do you sow your seeds in modules first?
I do, and had some great fennel this year. I made 2 sowings this year. The first I sowed on 6th May and planted out 10th June. The second sowing was made 10th of June and planted out in mid July (approx.).

The second sowing was by far the most successful. The first sowing was ok, but the second was much bigger. I have been picking it from end of September until last week.

Try sowing in  modules next year.

Regards,
Thomas

Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: saddad on November 09, 2006, 19:50:28
I've never had any success with bulb (Florence) fennel but the green and bronze decorative stuff is almost an endemic weed!
::)
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on November 09, 2006, 20:26:07
Hi,

thanks for that. All sowings this year were direct in the ground - April, May and June (and then one last gasp effort right at the end of July). Last year I did a small sowing in pots in April - which worked; a sowing at the end of May in the ground - which bolted, and then a later sowing in the ground, can't remember when, which was OK. Looks like i'll have to keep a better track of exactly when I do things. Spreadsheets - yeuch. I bet Percy Thrower never used one

Cheers
Clive
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Rosyred on November 09, 2006, 21:11:54
I planted out a few after sowing in modules but only 1 survived and very nice too it was.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: manicscousers on November 09, 2006, 21:15:21
we got about 7, all from jiffy 7's, they were transplanted into a bed filled up with rotted leaves and grass mixed in with the soil, two others went to seed, still, we got leaf and seed   :)
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: plot51A on November 09, 2006, 22:10:37
I find mid summer sowings usually work best. I start mine off in modules. There are some seed companies (I think Seeds of Italy is one) that offer varieties that say they are good for spring planting - shall definitely try next year.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Roy Bham UK on November 09, 2006, 22:23:53
Hi Clive and welcome aboard ;) I grew Fennel Victoria F1 this year around April direct into the ground and they appeared to be doing well but they bolted before reaching the size of those I've seen in the Supermarkets :'( I also have a bad habit of sowing too much of everything, that I must control. ::) ;D
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Hyacinth on November 09, 2006, 22:37:28
Is it Selma that's less prone to bolting? Had a splendid crop this year - but then I always do  ::) 8) Always start off in peat pots.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on November 10, 2006, 12:25:03
Peat pots it is then. Just let me find out about Selma. Thought she was married to Bob in The Likely Lads....
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: real food on November 11, 2006, 20:58:06
:)I find bulb fennel quite easy to grow and seldom have any problems in Glasgow. The best sowing period seems to be from mid May to mid June, and I sow directly into the ground. I have a suspicion that it is best to use new seed each year, keep the seedlings moist and watch out for slugs and snails. Drought will definitely make them bolt.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Merry Tiller on November 11, 2006, 21:12:30
Just about anything will make them bolt :'(
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Columbus on November 11, 2006, 21:24:33
Hi all,

I started my fennel in modules and its been fine. I will grow more next year.

I still have some if its not frosted, but it has bolted. (Try putting tough bolted stems inside the cavity of a marrow wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven, the fennel taste infuses right through the marrow,  throw the stems away afterwards, delicious)

I think Bobs wife was Thelma, but I haven`t checked.  ;D

Col
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: kitten on November 12, 2006, 15:07:32
Quote from: Rhubarb Thrasher on November 10, 2006, 12:25:03
Peat pots it is then. Just let me find out about Selma. Thought she was married to Bob in The Likely Lads....

I think it was Thelma rubarb thrasher lol!
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: cleo on November 12, 2006, 18:44:08
It might be a case of trial and error to find the variety that suits your soil and conditions best.  I do well with `Rudy` but  not with `Zefa Fino`
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: chappers on November 12, 2006, 19:14:21
Always found fennel really easy to grow first sowing start of May then every 4 weeks until the end of July, never had a problem with bolting but do water everyday during the summer.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on November 12, 2006, 19:28:22
Hi
I may have posted this reply twice....The variety I grew was Chiarino, the only one I could get hold of. Think i'll be more systematic and "trial" a few different ones at the same time. Found Selma at exhibitionseeds.co.uk. £3.70 - expensive?

What size peat pots would people recommend? I used them for a bit years ago, but gave up because they dried out so easily

Kitten - I knew it was Thelma! As a hormonally challenged spotty teenager, I used to fancy her! Iknow she was a terrible nag, but it's the only was to treat a plonker like Bob.

Rhubarb Thrasher
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: sweet-pea on November 13, 2006, 14:15:08
This is my best year so far with fennel, byt still not getting very big bulbs.  I'd be intersted to know what soil preperation, feed etc people use.  Also, how hardy is fennel? mine still seems ok despite the frost.

sp x
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: real food on November 13, 2006, 18:23:32
I use just ordinary allotment soil, but keep it well manured. They must be kept well watered. They will not stand more than a little frost. It causes them to go mushy.
Title: Re: Fennel Failure
Post by: sweet-pea on November 14, 2006, 10:13:09
thanks real food, I shall keep an eye out for next hard frost and pull them up before.