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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: wahaj on October 24, 2006, 18:09:02

Title: Cyclamen
Post by: wahaj on October 24, 2006, 18:09:02
Hi,

I've bought some cyclamen seeds. well 12 seeds in the pack to be precise. how rude!

anyway....it tells me how and when to sow them...but how long does it take for it to flower?
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 24, 2006, 18:38:11
A couple of years.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: muddy boots on October 24, 2006, 18:41:08
I tried growing the coums from seed ages ago without any success whatsoever.  Any tips on germinating Robert?  Really love those tiny little ones which seem to love shady places.  :-\
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 24, 2006, 18:43:11
Fresh seed planted as soon as it's ripe! Hederifolium seedlings come up all round my plants. It probably doesn't like being dried out, like so many seeds.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: wahaj on October 24, 2006, 19:01:08
oh ok...so if i sow them now, i should hopefully have some in autumn 2008?

thanks :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: froglets on October 24, 2006, 19:15:41
You will get a few tiny leaves next year, but as they're so pretty, I'd call that a bonus
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 24, 2006, 19:26:31
Put it straight in and see what happens. It depends how it's been treated and how old it is; I had some tree paeony seed, another seed which needs prompt planting, in the depths of last winter, and it's producing roots now, so all isn't necessarily lost if it doesn't get planted straight away.

All cyclamens have the same strategy for their seed; it ripens almost a year after flowering, just before the plant flowers again. The old flower stem coils down so the seed pod is at ground level before it opens. The seeds are coated with sweet mucus, and are carried off and spread by ants.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: wahaj on October 24, 2006, 19:26:41
Quote from: froglets on October 24, 2006, 19:15:41
You will get a few tiny leaves next year, but as they're so pretty, I'd call that a bonus

aww ok...i bet they'll look cute under my cherry tree.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: calendula on October 25, 2006, 12:24:41
yes they are slow starters but once they get going..... :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on October 25, 2006, 21:30:24
A year after they start blooming, you can take the seed and start a new lot. Hederifolium self-seeds so well it's probably not worth bothering, but some of the others don't do it so easily.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: fluffygrue on November 01, 2006, 15:53:12
..alternatively, have a look in your local B&Q - ours were selling the 6 packs of cyclamen for £1, were £5. I love bargain hunting. :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Palustris on November 01, 2006, 16:03:40
Take care buying dried corms, they do not always grow when as dry as that.
Wahaj if your cyclamen do not grow, then give me a PM in Spring and I will  send you a few dozen.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: laurieuk on November 02, 2006, 22:53:09
Cyclamen seed that has been kept in packets can be very slow in germinateing as the natural coating dries hard. If you wash them well over a few days in luke warm water before sowing germination a greatly improved. I sow on the surface of general purpose compost and just cover with a thin layer of coarse washed sand. Seed saved and sown as soon as ripe, kept outside in a cold frame most times germinates within a couple of weeks or so.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: wahaj on November 03, 2006, 07:53:28
that's very kind of you palustris :)

and yea....i do that with most my seeds anyway laurie. the difference is pretty striking. if it's really tough seeds i soak them in very dilute fairy liquid.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: valmarg on November 08, 2006, 14:23:07
Wahaj, corms I promised (on the other thread) are in the post.  Have PM'd you, but the computer threw a wobbly, and I'm not sure if it was sent, or whether it's hanging about in the ether somewhere.

I'm just sorry for taking so long!!

valmarg


Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: wahaj on November 08, 2006, 15:00:57
Quote from: valmarg on November 08, 2006, 14:23:07
Wahaj, corms I promised (on the other thread) are in the post.  Have PM'd you, but the computer threw a wobbly, and I'm not sure if it was sent, or whether it's hanging about in the ether somewhere.

I'm just sorry for taking so long!!

valmarg




aww thankyou so much. and yea i did get your very informative PM. you do seem to know a lot about them don't you?

again thanks very much :)
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Mrs Ava on November 08, 2006, 18:16:58
Best bet is to chuck them over a pot of compost which has some fine grit on it, and forget about them!  I did that, under Erics advice of course, and what do you know, a pot of little cyclamen seedlings!  They are now going into year 2 and will be planted out this spring.  I find when I nurture things, they do nothing!  Chuck them in, stick them on the back of the staging and forget about them, grows like cress!
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 08, 2006, 18:46:16
Same here; I've got lots of little pots sitting in a cold frame; they get checked occasionally and watered in hot weather, and that's all. Eventually, things start growing. I hope! I've got Paeonies sprouting at last, and Trillium seed in the post.
Title: Re: Cyclamen
Post by: valmarg on November 08, 2006, 21:45:49
Couldn't agree more RB and EJ.  Left to their own devices seeds (plants) somehow manage to multiply.  The more you pamper them the less you seem to manage to grow.

There are some seeds which are expensive and we give them very very careful nurturing, and what do we get? zippo.

The same seeds, left in the wild would reproduce quite readily.

The moral is. the less care you take of your seeds, the more likely you are to be successul

valmarg