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Title: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 19, 2006, 22:26:07
Japanese onions i have just put a couple of rows of seeds in and wondered if they should be covered

many thanks

tim
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Merry Tiller on September 19, 2006, 23:48:29
Can't really say for sure as I don't know where you are, would suggest not though in September
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 20, 2006, 08:44:02
Hampshire its warm enough but we get a lot of wood pigeons was wondering if they would take them

tim
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: robkb on September 20, 2006, 09:22:31
Hi Tim K,

I'd recommend covering them - I planted several rows last autumn and a few days later they'd nearly all been pulled out of the ground by pesky pigeons >:( Still, it taught me a lesson!

Cheers,
Rob ;)
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Merry Tiller on September 20, 2006, 19:50:07
Weird, I've never had my onions touched by pigeons. you learn something new every day :o. The answer has to be cover them up then
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: grawrc on September 20, 2006, 21:48:20
MT is your doggie buried under all those toms?? ;D ;)
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 20, 2006, 22:27:17
If you mean seeds, cover them lightly like any other small seed. If you mean sets (it's a bit on the late side for seeds), then I put a couple of inches of grass mulch over them. Don't plant them deep.
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 20, 2006, 23:15:24
thanks Robert you just answered my next question ;D ;D

atb

tim
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Curryandchips on September 20, 2006, 23:20:07
I finished planting 400 sets today. I gave the rows a dusting of BF&B, which has given the lines a whitish appearance, I hope this is enough to deter birds from being too inquisitive ...
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 20, 2006, 23:25:14
my mum had a load of sets pulled up and carried off by grey squirrels she has woods at the back of her garden she also had some wood pidgeons pecking about that was the reason for original question

i have decided i am going to cover half and leave the rest and see what happens

will let you know ;)


tim
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Merry Tiller on September 20, 2006, 23:50:56
QuoteMT is your doggie buried under all those toms??

No, here she is 8)


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Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: grawrc on September 21, 2006, 18:20:49
Oh wow! A cocker.. Gorgeous.
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Hyacinth on September 21, 2006, 18:58:27
Quote from: Curry on September 20, 2006, 23:20:07
I finished planting 400 sets today. I gave the rows a dusting of BF&B, which has given the lines a whitish appearance, I hope this is enough to deter birds from being too inquisitive ...

Foxes just love BFB
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Curryandchips on September 21, 2006, 19:27:20
Never knew that, but I can't see them getting worked up over a dusting ... and I must admit, the foxes have not given any problems so far ...
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: OliveOil on September 21, 2006, 19:51:45
Ooo i've not covered mine... i will check them at the weekend, though we have a couple of shooters down the lotty so i think they should be safe from pigeons!
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Marymary on September 21, 2006, 20:23:34
Planted my sets last year, went inside for a cup of tea, went back out & about half of them had been pulled out & a robin redbreast was sitting on the edge of the raised bed  looking very pleased with himself.
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 21, 2006, 21:05:42
Quote from: Marymary on September 21, 2006, 20:23:34
Planted my sets last year, went inside for a cup of tea, went back out & about half of them had been pulled out & a robin redbreast was sitting on the edge of the raised bed  looking very pleased with himself.

i don't think i would mind that  ;D i would watch it then put them back in when its finished  ;)  love robins they are fascinating little characters
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Hyacinth on September 21, 2006, 21:24:43
Quote from: Curry on September 21, 2006, 19:27:20
Never knew that, but I can't see them getting worked up over a dusting ... and I must admit, the foxes have not given any problems so far ...

praps you've not got any other foxes around, DtF ;D

for any 'lotmenteer who may have foxes near, the sense of smell in a fox is similar to that of a dog, natch(!) = highly developed, & they will be attracted because the smell suggests to them that food is buried there - something other than jap onions :P....so if you use it, best to take steps to deter them. Unfortunately Renardine is no longer on the market, so praps some other form of deterrant...cloches, mesh, etc?
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 21, 2006, 21:45:02
haven't got any mesh or cloches at the mo but after today Ive got bundles of black buckets would they do?














;D  tim
ps sorry
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: Hyacinth on September 21, 2006, 21:48:34

haven't got any mesh or cloches at the mo but after today Ive got bundles of black buckets would they do?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D












Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on September 21, 2006, 21:55:44
 ;D ;D sorry couldn't resist


atb

tim
Title: Re: jap onions
Post by: tim k on October 06, 2006, 09:20:04
the seeds are all up. but the sets are interesting the one i covered with about 2" of grass cuttings are now 3-4"high and the ones i didn't cover are just starting to show i took the temperature with a probe type thermometer and the grass cuttings raised the temp from 16 to 18

thanks again for the tip Robert :)