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Title: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 18, 2006, 13:34:51
....did you see him slurping soup sideways from a dessert spoon?? Oh, dear!

Yes - in the olden days, one had 'soup spoons'. When soup was always minestrone or suchlike. But get a piece of 'substance' in it, & you have to put the 'balloon' into your mouth? How uncouth. Not possible!!

A dessert spoon is designed to fit neatly into your mouth. So what is wrong with putting a liquid, semi-lquid or lumpy stuff into it that way?? It is NOT designed to be sucked sideways. Try to ignore the dribble after each attempt.

You use one, end-wise on, for porridge, custard, ice cream, casserole, stewed fruit, cereal.......... so, why not soup??



Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: jennym on September 19, 2006, 00:12:03
When I was a child, we had soup spoons that were like big dessertspoons. In fact I remember my father talking about "round" soupspoons in a derogatory manner. Hvent a clue really whether he was right or wrong, and even if there is such a thing as right or wrong nowadays, but we still always use large dessertspoons for soups and stews - because they work! (Bad manners??  ;D)
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: Curryandchips on September 19, 2006, 00:46:05
Isn't a large dessert spoon a 'tablespoon' ? Whereas, as shown by Tim's picture, a soupspoon is a different shape ( I actually push a soupspoon in my mouth, because I have no regard for so called manners :D)
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: jennym on September 19, 2006, 00:53:24
Quote from: Curry on September 19, 2006, 00:46:05
Isn't a large dessert spoon a 'tablespoon' ? Whereas, as shown by Tim's picture, a soupspoon is a different shape..

Ooops, I stand corrected  :)
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: Curryandchips on September 19, 2006, 07:00:58
If I appeared to be criticising, then I apologise, I had no intention of trying to correct anyone ... my observation was merely based on my own limited vision of traditional kitchen 'measures' ie teaspoon, dessertspoon and tablespoon.

Tim, your observations on using a spoon are wonderful, I have images of dainty ladies slurping consomme ... :)

Another good use for a soup spoon? Rolling spaghetti onto your fork, I find it slightly easier than with a dessert spoon. And the soupspoon doubles as a ladle, for shovelling the sauce in :D Sorry if I am lowering the tone ...
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 19, 2006, 07:06:16
Not so much manners, Curry, & no sense of right or wrong - just very uncomfortable - & totally illogical!

Oh - your post has just crossed mine - came down to change minestrone to consommé but you were ahead of me!!

Yes - that's the way I 'do' pasta!
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: Hyacinth on September 20, 2006, 18:23:01
 I'm thinking wrong, wrong & wrong!....well, maybe not three wrongs but it seemed the right thing to say?  ;)

Wrong =  "dainty ladies slurping consomme".....pardon? these days, consomme is drunk out of a cup; used not to be, used to be out of a wide-bowelled spoon,  but I object to Saga Louts being depicted in this way.....evidence please?

Wrong =  pasta eaten with a spoon (ANY spoon) & fork.....pasta is usually served in a soup-bowl shaped  plate & the pasta is twirled against the bowl of the plate - anything else is infra dig & reserved for foreigners?....

Wrong = that there is any sauce left over from the coating of the pasta to need an extra 'shovel'   ...  ?




Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 20, 2006, 18:28:44
I get knocked for drinking my soup from a bowl. So much less slurping?

A cup's alright. A bowl is a cup without a handle. So??
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: Hyacinth on September 20, 2006, 18:34:50
Quote from: tim on September 20, 2006, 18:28:44
I get knocked for drinking my soup from a bowl. So much less slurping?

A cup's alright. A bowl is a cup without a handle. So??

Certainly is in my house 8) No spoons.
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 20, 2006, 18:47:57
AT LAST - we agree??
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: bennettsleg on September 20, 2006, 19:11:15
I get all ranty when served soup with an ordinary spoon.  I like a soup spoon.  In fact I have a strange fascination with spoons that could probably feed a pschotherapist's dissertation.

Table manners are a huge topic for more arguement than debate at our place.  We're all dragged up good and proper.  The ladies' mother's were a bit hotter on table manners but the boy's (who are brothers) know the who, what, when, where and how to behave. 

The upshot is that table manners are middle class manifestations of social climbing and the desire to become closer to them wot are landed instead of them that aren't.  Corbels! I cry! I don't care! If you want to drink your gravy do it with a bloomin' SPOON! Arrrgh!

And completely off topic: I can't wait for my bloody neighbours to move out, all through the time of writing thtis they've been stomping around in the copper's size 12's and making my ceiling and light fitting tremble. >:(
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 20, 2006, 19:48:51
Of course, when I say bowl, I mean a 'couth' one!!

Pasta point noted, Lishka. You've been there!
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tilts on September 29, 2006, 00:28:48
my 'bowls' are 'soup plates'........!!!
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on September 29, 2006, 06:57:19
You have a broad smile??
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: supersprout on September 29, 2006, 09:00:16
If thick n lumpy soup, we use Chinese ceramic soup spoons - kinder on the tongue than metal, nice deep bowl for lumps
If thin soup or soup noodle, chopsticks and slurping straight from the bowl
Almost everything gets served in bowls @ chateau sprout these days, it's quite a novelty to visit friends who eat off plates :o
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: Obelixx on October 10, 2006, 16:19:07
Round soup spoons are a British concept probably introduced in the 19th century by the likes of Mrs Beeton and etiquette books for the rising middle classes etc.   The Belgians eat soup with a large dessertspoon which is deeper and narrower than a  British serving spoon but holds the same quantity for recipe measuring purposes.   I now find it odd to eat soup with a round spoon and impossible if it has chunks.
Title: Re: I like Rick Stein - BUT........
Post by: tim on October 10, 2006, 18:28:14
Do so agree! As I said, you have to have a broad smile to get a round spoon into your mouth. Not pretty!