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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 18:34:26

Title: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 18:34:26
Some of you may remember this somewhat dull looking pot of Arum Italicum taken in the spring

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/ArumItalicum.jpg)

I was rather disappointed with the foliage.   :(

However, the new leaves are just beginning to open now and what a difference!   ;D

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/ArumItalicumsep.jpg)

G x
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: LILACSPLASH on September 08, 2006, 19:01:12
they're fine in a pot but whatever you do don't let it get into the borders. it spreads like wildfire and is a devil to get rid of (i've not got there yet and i've been at it a number of years now) the sap is also an irritant so don't let a teenage boy with a strimmer near it :-\
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 20:08:48
LOL no worries about that.  I only have one border and that's full to bursting.   ;D

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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 08, 2006, 20:20:13
lovely woodland plant g - do you think it would do well in dry shade, or is it moisture-loving?
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 20:23:37
I've kept it pretty well watered but you could give it a try I suppose? ???

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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 08, 2006, 20:40:35
It should be OK, even if it doesn't flourish. I've only got one really flourishing clump, and that's in fairly dry shade under a thorn hedge. I think the main difference is that its roots haven't been disturbed at all. Mine don't spread; I thought it was A. maculatum, the common Lords and Ladies, that did that.
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: undercarriage plan on September 08, 2006, 21:01:48
WOW!! Bootiful G!  :)

How's your twisted thingy?  ;)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 21:07:11
Lottie my twisty thing is six foot high and it's been cut back three times this year already!  You didn't mention 'triffid' on the label!   :o

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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: undercarriage plan on September 08, 2006, 21:10:28
 ;D

Send a cutting hun... mum is dead!!  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 21:12:54
Aww no.  :(  When's the best time to take a cutting?


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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: undercarriage plan on September 08, 2006, 21:18:07
You had to ask didn't you...  ::)

I think I took mine in autumn.... but... I have been known to get it completely wrong...  ;D

Mum came from florists... as a twiny, floral, in house display... and it had rooted, so I bunged it in.. bunging works...  ;)

Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 08, 2006, 22:21:38
Roight.  I'll snip snip tomoz and bung some bits in pots and see wot  'appens.  :D

G x
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 08, 2006, 22:43:13
Would you snip an extra one for me pretty please g? (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e220/supersprout/smilies/cheeky-smiley-012.gif)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Palustris on September 09, 2006, 09:08:39
Arum pictum will grow in deepest dryest shade.
I have some far better coloured leaf forms than the one shown.
If the 'twisted thing' is a Willow then you can take cuttings at almost any time of the year and even put them in upside down and they will root.
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 09, 2006, 09:55:56
Thank you eric, that's really good news about the darkest dryest shade! :D
Could you make that two please g? ;)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2006, 11:42:11
The twisted thing is indeed a willow .  Is that the cutting you want, SS?

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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 09, 2006, 14:13:33
Thank you g, it's the arum I'm after for under the spreading chestnut tree ::)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2006, 14:19:09
Ermmm...

1.  I don't know if you can take cuttings of Arum Italicum.   ???

2.  If you can I don't know how.   ::)

3.  Eric seems to be suggesting that it's Arum Pictum that you need.   ;)

G x

PS.  Eric said that his is better than mine so I suggest you nag him.   ;D
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 09, 2006, 15:29:52
;D Yoo hoo ERIC! is G right? How is it propagated please? :P
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Palustris on September 09, 2006, 17:15:42
Seed produces some variation in quality of leaf markings otherwise derision! Sorry division. they are bulbous plant after all.
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2006, 17:27:59
Mine are too young to divide   Do you want some seeds then SS?

BTW, this is Lottie's triffid!  G x

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/georgie_girl15/Lottiestriffid.jpg)
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 09, 2006, 18:50:33
You can't take cuttings that I know of, but they do spead slowly, and you can split up the clumps periodically.
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2006, 18:55:47
Thanks Robert, maybe next year.

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Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: supersprout on September 09, 2006, 20:31:31
Yes please if you have some seed g :D
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Georgie on September 09, 2006, 20:40:00
Well, I assume I will have soon.  :D

G x
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Rosa_Mundi on September 10, 2006, 21:53:16
Mine has hardly expanded at all in 10 years, so it may depend on position, as well. However, since it was brought by a bird, it can't be that unhappy if it germinated. Leaves are a much better colour than those in the original picture, by the way - it's why I keep it.
Title: Re: Arum Italicum
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 10, 2006, 22:37:06
I find the colour dramatically improves as the plant gets larger. I'm not sure whether the failure of most of mine to thrive is due to the conditions or to the fact that they've been repeatedly disturbed as I've dug out more and more of the ground elder. I think I'm finally on top of the stuff now.