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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Common_Clay on August 10, 2006, 04:29:28

Title: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Common_Clay on August 10, 2006, 04:29:28
I'm feeling very disappointed as I've found that most of the cobs on the sweet corn plants that I was growing have been decimated. The sheaths have been stripped and the kernels have disappeared thanks to flies, lady birds, wasps, beetles, anything else you can think of.
  Does anyone know why this has happened?

Also, as I've never grown this vegetable before, can anyone please advise me, is the top couple of inches nearest to where the silk dies off supposed to be just white, tiny, fleshless, empty kernels?

  It's very sad to think that of over 20 plants I have managed to salvage only two cobs, and one of those had pink fluffy mould looking stuff beneath the leaves.

Anyone else having trouble with theirs?

Many thanks. 
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: supersprout on August 10, 2006, 05:52:13
How gruesome cc :'(
The only bit I can answer is that the top kernels can be unplumped when the rest of the cob is plumped, the extent depending on variety and conditions.
Can you say a little more about the how they were grown (block, how many, layout, variety, watering, soil, neighbouring plants)? :-\
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Chantenay on August 10, 2006, 07:29:55
I wonder if the fluffy pink mould is a clue? We need one of our experts onto this. Any photo's?
A useful tip I was given to test for ripeness is to feel the cobs through the husk. While they are pointed at the tip they are still unripe, as soon as the tip goes blunt they are ready - which means no more white end bits.

Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: saddad on August 10, 2006, 07:41:19
Bit late now but somebody on this site recommended putting clear plastic drinks bottles over the cobs (2L size). Not sure about the pink mould.. the only disease I can think of is Smut which I have never had...
:'( to your crop... thanks Chantenay for the blunt ended tip....
:)
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: artichoke on August 10, 2006, 09:16:23
I have tall healthy beautiful plants with no cobs at all! Just straight up and down with lovely waving green leaves, the best plants I have ever grown, but totally unproductive.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 10, 2006, 09:42:48
I have massive cobs coming (keeping my fingers crossed) but as usual they're reluctant to take the plunge and ripen. The only cobs I've ever had eaten by beasties were a couple which split, so the grain was exposed. I wonder what wildlife others have that I don't?
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: umshamrock on August 10, 2006, 10:56:47
Clay,

A mouse stripped about 5 of my cobs before i realized what was going on. i covered the rest with 2l bottles. Next year I am covering all my cobs before mr. mouse gets hungry.

ALL of the cobs i have ever grown (this year or last) have empty sad parts at the tips. They never fill in and they never go 'blunt' even when the rest of the cob is ready and tastes great. I don't water though so that could have something to do with it...

I haven't had the mold prob yet, but I feel your pain.

Better luck next year...

Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: sweet-pea on August 10, 2006, 11:02:21
I've never managed to harvest any cobs as the rat always gets to them first!  I've tried various things to try and prevent this happening but none have worked so far.  This year I'm going to try the plastic bottle idea this year, and if that doesn't work then I'm going to give up on them and put my efforts into growing something else next year.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Mrs Ava on August 10, 2006, 15:56:10
I have heard earwigs damage, badgers, deer, mice, rats, squirrels all scoff the cobs, and I guess voles....and with the huge vole population on my site, I am really really hoping they have been well fed on my beans and leave my cobs alone!!

Very sad for you - I had complete corn failure last year, but this year is so far (fingers and toes crossed) looking good.  The mini corns have been very productive but I think are now finished.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 10, 2006, 19:37:12
Significant, persistent damage has to be something with a large appetite, that works happily off ground level. So many people report it that it has to be something widespread, which would eliminate deer in most cases, and persistently vegetarian, which should also eliminate foxes and badgers in the vast majority of cases. My guess is first squirrels, then possibly rats. Has anyone actually seen anything at the corn?
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Svea on August 10, 2006, 19:56:49
squirrels do it for us at our site - no corn harvest for us this year. shant bother again i dont think :(
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: umshamrock on August 10, 2006, 21:19:46
Just back from my plot...and someone has stolen some of my corn!!!!!!!!!! grr... i HATE theives and vandals. i just don't get why people do that. rumor is it's another plot holder doing the stealing...

i picked three cobs and ate them just now even though they are only almost ripe and 3/4 full. if i wait i might not get any!

they taste amazing though.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: caroline7758 on August 13, 2006, 14:18:11
Just checked mine after a week away. The plants look great but the cobs, even where the tassles have gone brown, look very thin compared to last year. Should the tassles be completely brown before I test them for ripeness?

Edit- just found the answer to this in another thread!
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Meg on August 13, 2006, 15:54:24
umshamrock how #### annoying is that. Must admit to raiding my friends runners today as I needed some extra but I did give her some of my fab tomatoes instead.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Georgie on August 13, 2006, 19:42:37
Awww, sorry to hear the sorry tales of sweetcorn failure on here, bad luck folks.  I was going to try it for the first time next year (was kindly offered seeds last night).  But one thing is bothering me.  How does covering the cobs with a plastic bottle stop mice getting in?  I thought they could squeeze into the tiniest of spaces?

G x
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: supersprout on August 14, 2006, 16:43:29
Apparently so G, my chum in the country has a bird feeder which is scrumped from time to time by an acrobatic shrew. Yesterday she had to rescue it - the seed was low in the feeder, so the lil shrew had climbed in through the tiny hole and feasted to a state of plumptiousness, then found it couldn't squeeze out again ::)
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Georgie on August 14, 2006, 17:14:11
LOL SS, nice tale.   ;D  Still none the wiser about the plastic bottles though.   ???

G x
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: philj on August 14, 2006, 17:48:13
 ???  Like Artichoke above, I have seemingly healthy plants in a block with plenty of male pollen blowing around but not a single cob forming - no sign at all.  The only thing I've done differently to last year is use year old seed - would this make a difference?

Phil
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: davy1 on August 14, 2006, 18:36:48
Unfortuatly i cant post a photo but  we have a ptoblem with rats an i use 2 litre plastic milk bottles I cut the bottle up the side and place the nozle end over the base of the cob then push the open sides together. You can always tie string round for more security It works none of the cobs in the bottle have been touched as there is nothing for the rat to hold on to.
Other plot holders are having to pull and freeze
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Georgie on August 14, 2006, 20:05:41
Ah!   Light comes on.  Thanks Davy.    ;D

G x
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: umshamrock on August 14, 2006, 20:11:54
i do it the same way as you, davy.

and, since i have covered the cobs with bottles, the mice haven't eaten any!
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: davy1 on August 14, 2006, 20:27:17
I think that any unlucky person has had there plants stripped you will find it was rats as at any one time in this country you are never more than 20 feet away from one
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: tim on August 15, 2006, 10:38:38
So why do I lose ONE tassle out of 50+??

And someone mentioned bursting before ripe? Haven't had it before.
Title: Re: Sweet corn sulk
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on August 15, 2006, 20:51:14
I've got a lot of unripe cobs bursting as well; I've never had it before, and it makes the grains a lot more visible to anything which might eat them.