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I am NOT a happie chappie!!
Soup?
I KNOW!! But it's not the same?
And there are 2 ROWS of them!!
Going to ask a daft question (please excuse me I am new to this) ...
I don't recognise the name under the picture, what sort of veg is it?
Sorry again
Helen
You may well be confused - they were supposed to be lettuces!!
well-i'm still confused...they look like blinkin lettuces to me....
???
mind you- i speak as a person who sowed rocket and got unidentified tomatoes *sigh*i think it was dtbrowns fault tho.....
but i still watched for the rocket to get to edible size for a good 6 weeks afore i realised..
*double sigh*
o well..snafu!
kitty
xx
Are they suposed to be that tall or have they gone to seed?
they are trying to shoot to seed.
tbh, the varieties i grow stand for quite some time - and while they start growing lengthways they dont get bitter or anything, so i just have them when i can, seems fine.
Thanks for that info Tinkie_Bear and Svea I didn’t realize they had bolted, ???
I have to say Tim a lot of your posts of late are aimed at the more experienced growers as your titles tell us novices little of what you are talking about, so consequently we can’t join in. :-\
Sorry but I do enjoy reading your posts when I can understand them. ;D
Nice slap in the face. Please give me an example, Roy??
I just speak my mind.
:-\
No probs here Tim! I may not know much, but check your posts for useful info and insights all the time!
;)
Without wishing to sound like I am siding with anyone, I agree with Katy. And I consider myself very much a novice ...
A bit harsh there Roy. This is called "Allotments for All", not "Allotments for Beginners". If you don't like someone's threads, don't read them.
One of the great things about this site is the relaxed, generally un-moderated feel. I think most people here are very much themselves, which isn't the case in a lot of other forums. I don't think it's particularly helpful to tell people what or what not to post, unless it's intentionally offensive or abusive and it's hard to take offense at a piccie of a lettuce, even if the lettuce is going to seed.
Tim - I like your threads.
oh! I'm growing Pandero for the first time this year (red little gem) and they look nowt like that - mind you they are tiny. Your leaves still look edible, though a nuisance to take off ...? I might be tempted to mulch me outdoor toms with them ;)
My allotment neighbour continually tells me that there are very few gardeners who can grow lettuce successfully through July and August. Just to reinforce that point, I have had zero success this year with lettuce, a combination of slugs, drought and bolting.
Red little gem eh? Sounds fabulous ...
Don't feel bad Tim, my lettuces all bolted in a matter of minutes, it seemed. And then I also had a juvenile fox "watering" them! ;D I'm not sure what the secret to successful lettuce in July/August is but if anyone knows, please share!
HI Tim, are you sure you don't live in Spain!! I have had both your runner bean and lettuce problems!!! tell us about your successes :) now!!
my little gems, bronze arrowhead and pak-choi all bolted, still the positive side is that I should be able to harvest some seeds and the ducks are loving them! ;D ;D
Thanks for kind words.
Correction.
I do NOT just speak my mind. I try to establish the full detail of a problem & then, with research where necessary, give the best answer that I can.
My aims are:
First - to offer ideas for those with problems.
Second - to seek help on my problems from the world of wisdom out there.
Third - to have a chuckle along the way.
'Still eat the leaves'?? Where's the 'heart' in that!!
Well said that man!
Quote from: tim on July 27, 2006, 12:59:17
Nice slap in the face. Please give me an example, Roy??
Jumping to Roy's defence I can see where he's coming from with "as your titles tell us novices little of what you are talking about, so consequently we can’t join in." an example would be
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,72/topic,20725.0
meant nothing to me
but I'm the guy that Tim called "borin boring boring glow" because I dared to ask about planting Aubs in March
Alright - I could have said 'because all ours are self-seeded'. But one can always ask, if interested? And I could show you 100 titles by others which give no lead whatsoever into the subject.
So, Ian, please PM me with that Aub link - can't trace it - so that I can give a full apology if it was intended as an insult. It's obviously been wrankling?
PS - later - Obscure titles? Did you open the 'why buy' one? Don't we all try to tempt a view??
what the dickens are you taking offence at roy and glow? :)
is it the heat? ::)
we all give and take allsorts of things on here-and just click at random-if it still doesnt make sense then ask.....i've seen allsorts of weird and wacky titles on here-it adds to the fun of it-blimey-if everything was spelled out in coloured bricks it'd be blinking borin'....
in cyberspace ,not only can no-one hear you scream but you dont hear the tone of voice...i doubt very much wether anyone..especially tim,would be out and out rude glow-maybe he was refering to the activity of trying aubs in march...
and even on hand cranked dial up..like me...it takes but a second to click on a post-see if its relevant or not and take part or move on...
::)
now stop getting all touchy or i shall be round to sort you out! ;D ;D
kitty
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Time to cool off and back to basics, everyone? Succession sowing of lettuces (and radishes, come to that)......how is it achieved? We've all got prior knowledge of Tim's 'x' years of growing stuff, so we can assume his plants not stressed by overcrowding? But still they''ve grown lanky to the point of bolt, & not hearted up. So what's the solution, please?
buy one from tescos.........
okay -so it wasnt a very funny joke..but its hot...and i'm melting....and i broke me blinkin drill today and i still have aone more raised bed left to do...and i'm hungry....
and theres no joy in eating chocolate in this heat even if its straight from the fridge..
*sigh*
and they think they have it tough in lebanon..
okay-that wasnt funny either..
before anyone rushes to post-no-one-but NO-ONE has more sympathy for the lebanese than me....it was a throwaway joke..see? :-[
its gone... :-\
seriously-i think next year i will get the lettuces in before july and what works will stay wha doesnt goes to the chickens...they dont care!
and i shall sow some seed again when its cooler if possible.....
kitty
Very generous thought, Lishka! Close, but not crowded - for a Gem type.
I blame the raised bed. The Tin Tin & Little Gem in the other bed were much further advanced before they ran out of moisture?
As to the 'discussion', I'm all for clearing the air. Even if it's hot air!
"Buying one from Tescos".......and I've been wondering......is it possible to supply a home market with salad stuff, given our disasters with succession sowed lettuce & radish? Looking at Tim's pix & knowing the man (in a cyber-sort of way, I hasten to add ;)), if an experienced amateur grower like Tim can't come up with the goods.....how can we?
What on earth is the secret of me, in the Midlands, in a near-drought, producing fresh salad leaves & radishes, etc. for my ladies - I really really want to know, please?
Before I started doing this, I'd NO idea how hard, ie downright impossible, it seems to do without specialized conditions/equipment.
btw Kits....... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: tim on July 27, 2006, 17:29:16
I blame the raised bed. The Tin Tin & Little Gem in the other bed were much further advanced before they ran out of moisture?
'Raised bed' is no substitute for 'deep bed' IMHO (http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e220/supersprout/smilies/eusa_snooty.gif) ;)
I have come up with a small scale solution to the "too hot for lettuce" problem, I have a bucket with some cut and come again growing in my greenhouse, it is shaded and well watered and as not dared to bolt yet but the ones in the garden are turning into christmas tree's as we speak. Maybe I am just lucky?
Helen
Oh, Sprouty, IYHO eh?? Try bending over my stomach from my height & not overbalance?
I LOVE raised beds. Given everything else equal. Like the weather? And the ban?
And one of the plus things for them was that they were all fresh soil & rot free for alliums.
But I made the mistake of using JIC rather than soil - you can pour cans of water on it & it makes like a Burberry.
Hi Tim,
The word that seems to be missed in your title is ' continuity '.
To me this means sowing seeds say every two weeks to get a continuous run of crops during the season. Do I take it from your photo that not only are your lettuces about to bolt ( which personally I put down to the heat and lack of rain ), but that they have caught up with each other? The second point, the catching up, I honestly have no idea. In a shady area of my veg patch I have some salad lettuce growing which I water every night, this seems to be growing ' normally ' , whereas the lettuce in direct sunlight, like yours appears to be about to bolt.
Mike - like the Little Gem in the other photo, they were well spaced in time. But 3 sowings have all been ready at the same time. Very unusual. And VERY annoying!
And, yes, 2 weeks is typical. But, for early sowings, I would make that 3-4?
I'm new to growing veg . I find Tims posts very helpful and always look for them
Quote from: tim on July 27, 2006, 17:47:00
I made the mistake of using JIC rather than soil - you can pour cans of water on it & it makes like a Burberry.
oo I am going to plant soft fruit this autumn tim, will look out for it ::) ;)
Quote from: tim on July 27, 2006, 12:59:17
Nice slap in the face. Please give me an example, Roy??
I just speak my mind.
I speak mine too and it does get me into trouble sometimes, ::) it wasn’t intended as a “Nice slap in the face†Tim, just a point of view, ??? as you’ve asked for an example I have added a couple of your links as I couldn’t wade through all of your posts over the last month
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/smf/index.php/topic,22671.msg224069.html#msg224069
No comment.
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/smf/index.php/topic,22315.msg221311.html#msg221311
I thought they were butternut squash.
Quote from: OllieC on July 27, 2006, 13:21:50
A bit harsh there Roy. This is called "Allotments for All", not "Allotments for Beginners". If you don't like someone's threads, don't read them.
Tim - I like your threads.
What a silly thing to say Ollie ??? if I don’t read them how am I going to find out if I like them or not? ??? I also like Tim’s threads but if I can’t continue to enjoy them then I will say so rather than not read them ::) in the hope it will help the novices like me, I see no point in just addressing experienced gardeners that can guess what’s going on, we will finish up with a clique club. 8)
Quote from: kitty on July 27, 2006, 16:53:14
now stop getting all touchy or i shall be round to sort you out! ;D ;D
kitty
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Kitty ;) you can sort me out any time, I am in desperate need of it… :o (sorting out that is). ;D
Rant over, I assume the lettuces were consumed Tim and not wasted? I have been eating thinned out lettuce of cos and enjoying them. 8)
Roy, you've lost me. Your links:
1. Curly beans are obviously difficult to deal with? Not amused? Oh, well!
2. Squash? The next post said exactly what they were?
No matter. I'll trundle on in my own sweet way, hoping not to provoke.
Straying further off topic to reply to Roy's original off-topic point...
Sorry for any confusion caused. I should have said "If, in general, you don't like someone's threads, don't read them".
I hope this clarifies things for you Roy.
Also, if people are going to tell others how to post, they should expect feedback themselves on how they post. Calling other posts "silly" really is rather odd as I'm sure you must have known what I meant.
Can't take it? Don't give it! Simple!!! ;)
Dan has laid guidelines for behaviour down in the Shed ...
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/smf/index.php/topic,15810.0.html (http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/smf/index.php/topic,15810.0.html)
We should perhaps remember these before we rush to post ...
QuoteKitty you can sort me out any time, I am in desperate need of it… (sorting out that is).
expect me about 7-ish roy! ;D ;D ;D ;)lol!
right-
stop it now-everyone back to work-theres veg to thin and plant-string to save and tie,raised beds to trip over-i went 'a' over' t
'AGAIN!must wear me spex.....mutter mutter... ::)
this thread is officially-
and officiously ,closed
any complaints please address them care of 'the kitster',lincolnshire-or start another thread! ;D
'k?
k.
luv
kitty
Quote from: OllieC on July 28, 2006, 09:08:25
Straying further off topic to reply to Roy's original off-topic point...
Sorry for any confusion caused. I should have said "If, in general, you don't like someone's threads, don't read them".
I hope this clarifies things for you Roy.
Also, if people are going to tell others how to post, they should expect feedback themselves on how they post. Calling other posts "silly" really is rather odd as I'm sure you must have known what I meant.
Can't take it? Don't give it! Simple!!! ;)
Oh dear that’s another fine mess you’ve got me into, clear as mud Ollie, ::) “In general I do like Tim’s threads†he is a nice bloke I like him OK?, I expressed a view, am I not allowed? ::) ???
“Expect feed back� ??? I assume you mean criticism? ??? I can take it or leave it, depending on how it is delivered. ::)
Oh! And I can take whatever you have to give…winter cabbage? Onions? Sprouts? ;D
Give/take, advise/criticise doesn't matter - Tim and Roy are just about my two fav cyber men (not Dr Who type tho!) plus one older and one younger so what more can a "girl" ask for;D
Ha, very good! Well, I may have a few sprouts around November time, if that's any good to you :)
Although they're probably not going to be all that amazing. The parsnips are looking good though. I'll post you a couple if you want?
And of course you're entitled to an opinion;all the best people I've ever known have been opinionated. And mostly a little grumpy on occasions too. Most importantly, you have a chuckle about a different viewpoint and work out what to disagree over next.
Cheers Roy.
Ollie
I'm feeling very sorry that I mentioned continuity.
Give me a moment & I'll come up with something else equally unprovocative!!
As my 11yr old son would say ... I'm a 'noob' on this site, as I am to vegetable growing but have always looked on here for posts which may answer any problems/queries I have.
Tim ... I have always thought your thoughts/views/ ideas/ solutions etc etc have been informative and useful ;)
PS.
As I have yours Roy ... and everyone who has answered my questions just by posting on here