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Title: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: jennym on May 15, 2006, 23:37:19
Would be ever so grateful if you could confirm this is Paeonia lutea ?
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Palustris on May 16, 2006, 09:13:58
Looks like it to me!
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Ceratonia on May 16, 2006, 09:51:50
I have dozens of seedlings of this about to go on the compost heap, so if anyone wants a couple.....
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Garden Manager on May 16, 2006, 10:35:52
Quote from: Ceratonia on May 16, 2006, 09:51:50
I have dozens of seedlings of this about to go on the compost heap, so if anyone wants a couple.....

Yes i might be interested. Could you tell me a bit more about the plant first though? You say 'dozens of seedlings', are these self sown ones or did you grow them?

it looks a nice plant

Cheers
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: jennym on May 16, 2006, 10:44:53
Well, I like it - might not be to everyones taste though. mine is about 3 or 4 years old and was a self sown seedling bought from a church fete.
In leaf, it has a certain architectural quality I think, mine is about 4 ft tall now. I will try and get a photo to show you its form. There are nicer ones than the one I have, I'm sure Eric would know of them.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Ceratonia on May 16, 2006, 10:50:22
Quote from: Garden Cadet on May 16, 2006, 10:35:52
Yes i might be interested. Could you tell me a bit more about the plant first though? You say 'dozens of seedlings', are these self sown ones or did you grow them?

The original plant was grown from seed itself and looks exactly like jennym's photo. Around 5ft high, 5ft wide, unscented yellow flowers in mid-may, attractive foliage, interesting shape in winter. See no reason why the seedlings wouldn't come true in terms of the flowers - it's not a named cultivar or anything, but it will be a few more years before they flower.

There are a few self-sown seedlings around the plant itself, but most are in pots, grown from seed my youngest collected in a margerine tub a couple of years ago (the seed is a black ball about rosehip size, so quite easy for little fingers). I've had no problems transplanting them in previous years.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Garden Manager on May 16, 2006, 10:59:26
So is it worth giving 'garden room' to? I dont have a lot of free planting space available, so a plant would have to earn its keep.

You say it gets to around 5'x5'? can it be pruned to restrict its size?

Thanks
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: jennym on May 16, 2006, 11:31:22
Well, I haven't pruned mine and to be honest, it may look "stubby" if pruned I feel, but someone else may be able to advise better. This is a pic of mine:
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Ceratonia on May 16, 2006, 11:43:01
I prune mine lightly - remove crossing branches and shortening those branches which stick out over the drive. As you can see from Jenny's photo, it is a 'v' shaped shrub, so you can grow things underneath - it's only 5 feet wide at the top. It doesn't need full sun, either.

I like it a lot, but if you want stuff to 'earn its keep' it's worth pointing out that it only holds onto the flowers for 2-3 weeks - first high wind and they're all gone. And if you bought a named cultivar, you could get much nicer flowers.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Mrs Ava on May 16, 2006, 13:11:35
ooo, oooo ceratonia, if you have any left, I wouldn't mind a baby.  :)
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Garden Manager on May 16, 2006, 14:48:11
How would one do in a container I wonder?

(You may notice from my postings I would like one but am not sure if i can have one and am trying to persuade myself to say yes please to one!)
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: sarah on May 16, 2006, 18:00:40
ceratonia i would love a seedling if it is not too cheeky to ask while garden cadet dithers  ;) ;D.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Deeds on May 16, 2006, 18:54:05
Oh yes please if you still have some left, just let me know what you would like in exchange.  (masses of seeds and some nice unusual plants etc)
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: tezz brown on May 16, 2006, 19:08:52
Quote from: Garden Cadet on May 16, 2006, 10:59:26
So is it worth giving 'garden room' to? I dont have a lot of free planting space available, so a plant would have to earn its keep.

You say it gets to around 5'x5'? can it be pruned to restrict its size?

Thanks
garden cadet,..there was one of these in the botanical gardens of Durham City a couple of years ago and it was in excess of 10 feet high and growing,..
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Garden Manager on May 16, 2006, 22:10:34
Ceratonia:

Just to put you and everyone out of thier misery, I think I'll pass on the tree peony. It sounds too big and too fleeting in flower for my garden I dont realy think I have the room.

Thanks anyway.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Ceratonia on May 17, 2006, 10:45:19
Quote from: Garden Cadet on May 16, 2006, 14:48:11
How would one do in a container I wonder?

A google for "tree peony container" suggests that they can be grown quite well in relatively small containers, so I may give that a go myself. Have PM'd those who requested seedlings.
Title: Re: Peony question for Palustris?
Post by: Yuet_Lee on May 17, 2006, 11:37:39
Ceratonia,

it look gorgeous! I especially love yellow flowers.
it is too late to ask do you have any seed left? please I would like one if you have any spare ;)
How long does it take to grow that big ???