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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Greenfingers Jo on April 27, 2006, 12:43:54

Title: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Greenfingers Jo on April 27, 2006, 12:43:54
I have early cabbage, purple sprouting broccoli and carrots , all in different areas.
What size ofmesh do I need to prevent carrot fly and cabbage whites /other butterflies?

Cheers
Jo
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 27, 2006, 13:01:57
B'flies? Either..

Carrot fly? The finest.

There are only 2 choices.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Merry Tiller on April 27, 2006, 13:57:44
Enviromesh


http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=enviromesh&search_in_description=0&x=9&y=6 (http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=enviromesh&search_in_description=0&x=9&y=6)
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: supersprout on April 27, 2006, 14:40:43
I got a giant roll of enviromesh 2m wide which does for everything!
http://www.lbsgardendirect.co.uk/default.asp?src=froogle&cid=8XTX2P9KWSZ5F41R554NX6OTH27CC35J
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 27, 2006, 15:07:12
Or NA Kay
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: sandersj89 on April 27, 2006, 15:26:53
Tim,,

Have you used the Kays product, it is called something other than Environmesh - I think it is their own interpretation.....

It is pretty cheap compared to the real thing but I do not know the mess size. I was going to give them a call to check.

The cheapest supplier of environmesh I can find is Harrod Horticulture at the moment.

Jerry
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Merry Tiller on April 27, 2006, 15:37:33
I recently "acquired" some mesh from work, its called debris netting, I believe scaffolders use it, it has a mesh similar in size to enviromesh and it's green in colour. I have a piece 5m by 3m and there's another waiting for me when the builders have finished what they're doing
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: alit on April 27, 2006, 19:49:05
for the cabbage i used a double layer of mesh this year.  the pigeons completely wrecked my cabbages and i read a double layer compltely confuses them.  i  now have huge, healthy cabbages, so big that i am having difficulty getting through them.  they really had made a mess of the cabbages before i double meshed them.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 27, 2006, 19:56:00
Jerry - no , I haven't tried it but I put a,photo of it on the site some time ago. It seems to be of the finest quality?

alit - I cannot see how anything - from flea beetle to pigeon, can get through any mesh?? Netting, yes.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: alit on April 27, 2006, 20:31:35
yes, you are right.  i didn't know there was a difference between mesh and netting.  but size is obviously important.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: weedbusta on April 27, 2006, 20:38:00
i like merry tiller got a load of scaffolding debris mesh and used it last year, washed it through and i'm reusing it this year. indestructable stuff. i.ve used a load against a new fence with the intention of hopefully keepin next doors weeds from blowing in and growing sweetpeas etc up on it. its great for brassicas and fruit too.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Tee Gee on April 28, 2006, 16:23:30
This is how I do my carrots;

note; the gap at the end would normally be closed, this view has been staged to show the carrots under the cover.

(http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Pics/1/Carrot%20fly%20protection.jpg)

and this is how I do my brassicas and anything else that need protecting, the mesh is 19mm (¾")

(http://static.flickr.com/53/106301541_f4441d386e.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 28, 2006, 16:39:17
Sooo neat, TG. Is that garlic?

A couple of thoughts, however lucky you have been -

1. Most pigeons can peck through netting.
2. Netting cannot protect against cabbage whites or flea beetle.
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Tee Gee on April 28, 2006, 17:18:44
Sooo neat, TG. Is that garlic?

Yes!

A couple of thoughts, however lucky you have been -

1. Most pigeons can peck through netting.
2. Netting cannot protect against cabbage whites or flea beetle.


Then I must have been lucky all these years, so fingers crossed that it will continue  ;D ;)
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 28, 2006, 17:27:52
I'll keep mine crossed too!
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: sandersj89 on April 28, 2006, 17:56:10
I have seen that top pic on the Gardeners alamanac site.....

On this page:

http://www.thegardenersalmanac.co.uk/Data/Carrot.htm

Are you the author of that fantastic site?

Jerry
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 28, 2006, 18:14:19
I've had that site on my Favourites for yonks.

And now the blog!
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: Tee Gee on April 29, 2006, 16:04:04
Are you the author of that fantastic site?

Yes I am, and thanks for those kind words.

For the record I used to frequent A4A  a long time ago, recently I was asked in another forum to join you all so here I am.

Nice to see a few old faces around, perhaps it is my user name that has thrown you.

I had to re-register in A4A under a new name because I had forgotten my old user name.

Tee gee is the short for The Gardener @ the gardenersalmanac
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: thomasb on April 29, 2006, 17:37:59
FAO Jerry,
The product from Kays you spoke about is called Viromesh.

I purchased some this year. The price was not bad...however, I cannot remember it now.  I could not find it on the kays website after one of their website changes, but I have not looked for a number of weeks.
I am using it to protect carrots and turnips and the like.
It looks very good to me.  I cannot see how anything like flea-beatle would get through it.

Thomas
Title: Re: What size mesh to use?
Post by: tim on April 29, 2006, 17:52:19
TG - no, it didn't throw - I didn't want to blow your cover. Nice to have you back!

Thomas - I think that when I posted a photo of it a while back, I said it was finer than most & looked good.

http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,57/topic,15432.msg165933#msg165933  But the photo's wiped now.