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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: sallylockhart on April 12, 2006, 15:53:32

Title: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: sallylockhart on April 12, 2006, 15:53:32
Sorry - its my last day at work before easter and the excitement is getting to me  ;D

Anyway, I was wondering  if it is ok to plant peas in modules inside, and then transplant them out later on?

I'm worried about this bonkers weather we are having killing them all off and so planting inside seems to me to be a good safe idea, but I have heard that peas can be troublesome by tangling themselves up with each other while in pots (in an affectionate manner I guess)

does anyone grow their peas in modules and can reassure me that module planting is an ok strategy?

thanks

sl
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: ALAN HOWELL on April 12, 2006, 16:34:42
A chap on our lottie sowed his in bog standard seed trays,(last year) xplanted them when they were 2" high and had bumper crop ;D.....Alan
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Dirkdigger on April 12, 2006, 16:59:15
Done exactly the same with mine, went in on Saturday along with sugarsnap peas, got 2 chances ;D
Also planted more seeds into allotment directly for a later crop and to compare with bringing them on at home.
DD
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: jennym on April 12, 2006, 17:02:49
I've sown some direct over the last couple of weeks and will be sowing more over the next few weeks, I think they really should be ok to go straight out into the soil now.
Often though, I put some compost in the bottom of a seed tray, empty the packet in, cover with more compost and well water. Within a few days, they start to germinate, and then I sow them gently into a trench about 2" deep. Always get lots of peas this way.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: tim on April 12, 2006, 17:03:30
I would agree with that. They're pretty tough!

But what happened here??

They are for salads, of course.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: ellkebe on April 12, 2006, 19:46:09
Grew all of mine in pots last year and then transplanted out.  Seemed to work as several of my lottie neighbours sowed theirs direct and lost them to the mice and the birds.  Am doing the same this year, and mine are all cuddling each other on the window sill and in the cold frame as I type.  They always dis-entangle and re-entangle easily enough though - fickle lot  ;D ;D
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: jennym on April 12, 2006, 19:54:43
They are positively bursting out of the tray, aren't they Tim!

I only really let mine start to germinate in the tray before sowing out, they very rarely get to the leaf stage.
The other thing I forgot to say is that after sowing into the trench, and pulling soil into the trench to cover them, I always slowly walk along to firm the soil down. Doesn't seem to hurt the sprouted ones at such a young stage, and definitely doesn't hurt unsprouted ones. I lose very few, if any to mice, and we do have mice on the site.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: RSJK on April 12, 2006, 20:04:44
I do not see any need at this time of the year to start them in pots, they should do quite well set into situation where they are going to grow at this time of the year.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: supersprout on April 12, 2006, 20:08:24
I would sow outdoors now - but sprout first for two or three days, just so the root is starting to swell.
Hope you are enjoying your pea shoots tim, bumper crop ;) :D
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Curryandchips on April 12, 2006, 20:19:58
I am sowing my peas by the compost in tray method. They are extremely easy to lift, I just slide my fingers underneath and tease them out. They separate readily, and the ungerminated ones stay in the tray. I have shallow dibbed holes and just drop them in and scrape over.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: sjg12 on April 12, 2006, 20:55:11
Sowed mine in modules last year 2 to a 2 x 2 module and planted them out when a couple of inches high, had an excellent crop, tried some sowing outdoors and they got "got" by weevils.

this year i am doing the modules thing again....

hope this helps :)
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Lady of the Land on April 13, 2006, 06:11:55
I have planted directly into ground, but have had problems in past with few peas growing, not too sure whether mice or weather. This year covered with fleece as usual and bought 4 mouse traps. Set mouse traps outside of fleece covered pea area, under dustbin lid, raised slightly to allow mouse under and held down with brick to prevent it blowing away.

Have been down to check, caught one mouse, next time did not go down for a couple of days. When I did go found dustbin had been moved, there were areas dug in soil where dustbin had been left and no mouse traps. I then caught sight of an empty mouse trap about 3 meters away on allotment and realised what had probably happened. I expect I had caught a mouse, we have foxes on the site and one of these has smelt dead mouse and has dug in the soil to  get at it, taken it off in its mouth with my mouse trap. What a cheek ! - I thought I had worked out how to get my peas germinated.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: tim on April 13, 2006, 06:46:44
Sprout - yes - the first lot have been cut several times. Popular!
But what's gone funny with this lot??
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Debs on April 13, 2006, 07:52:30
Quote from: ALANG on April 12, 2006, 16:34:42
A chap on our lottie sowed his in bog standard seed trays,(last year) xplanted them when they were 2" high and had bumper crop ;D.....Alan

Well that IS good news. After reading the info on my mangetout it said to plant 2" deep, so I thought the seedtray would be too shallow.
Today....I shall be sowing mangetout in seedtrays!! ;D

Thanks for that Alan ;)
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: legless on April 13, 2006, 08:06:44
i've found my problem when sowing direct is that the seedlings get hammered by flea beetle when they are too small to cope, so i sow in guttering raised off the ground and plant out when they are 4" tall and they are big enough to cope with the bugs.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Debs on April 13, 2006, 08:13:49
Hi Legless,

Have you settled in to your new house & job?

Debs
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: busy_lizzie on April 13, 2006, 08:13:59
We have to sow them in modules first before we plant them in the soil, otherwise we don't get any at all.  We have tried for years to sow them out but they always get nibbled or is that nobbled. So we ensure they are sturdy and have a healthy root and they seem to have a better chance. Last year we even protected them with fleece for a while and got an even better crop.  busy_lizzie
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: supersprout on April 13, 2006, 08:19:28
Quote from: tim on April 13, 2006, 06:46:44
Sprout - yes - the first lot have been cut several times. Popular!
But what's gone funny with this lot??

The Pea Detective thinks that is a cat-shaped hole in the middle tim :o
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: legless on April 13, 2006, 08:46:55
Quote from: Debs on April 13, 2006, 08:13:49
Hi Legless,

Have you settled in to your new house & job?

Debs

no not yet, still here til tuesday (fingers crossed) and should move in next friday.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Rhys on April 13, 2006, 10:26:28
I've had trouble with peas too.

I soaked them overnight in water and am sprouting them for the first time this year and will plant them out when they have germinated.
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: Debs on April 14, 2006, 13:02:19
have now sown mangetout into seed tray and await result.

First time at growing peas, so fingers crossed...

Debs
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: tim on April 14, 2006, 13:06:05
Not cat's pea, Sprout?? Not in the greenhouse, anyway!!
Title: Re: to pea, or not to pea
Post by: plot51A on April 14, 2006, 20:18:46
I'm another "problem with peas" person. This year I am DETERMINED to get some!! Have planted them in an old (smallish) ice cream container, modules, fibre pots and loo rolls. Have soaked and sprouted. Now have peas in 2 large pots on my balcony and 2 varieties transplanted in the lottie and doing well. And mange tout modules to go out after the hols. The only thing that didn't really work was the loo rolls - out of about 24 tubes only got germination in 5 (soaked only. Early Onward.) Don't know why but won't use loo roll tubes again The fibre pots seemed really good - strong root growth just coming through the pot, couple of inches top growth and put the whole lot in the soil.
The ice cream container ones slid out and transplanted without too much trouble although they all fell about (larffin maybe?  ;D). It all looks more promising then any of last years efforts so I'm keeping fingers crossed. Have netted them on the plot, maybe unnecessary, but was worried about birds!