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Title: Compost Question?
Post by: scotch-mist on April 04, 2006, 00:41:35
I have been saving potatoe peelings and used tea bags in a big blue plastic barrel
for months now to make compost.

What do I do now with it to turn it into the nice rich stuff I've seen
Monty with on T.V?
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: katynewbie on April 04, 2006, 00:53:58
;D
Hello You!! Think the thing thats important is a big mix of stuff. So add lots of other veg peelings, scrumpled up newspaper, grass cuttings, maybe some crushed egg shells and anything else that was a "plant product" in a previous life and stick it all in the bin. Turn every now and again and Bobs your uncle!!

The jury is out on scary weed roots, some people think it's ok, others dont. If in doubt about the heat your heap can produce, it's probably best to avoid it.

Hope this helps..others will chip in with more clever answers, but this is all I know!!!

;)
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: scotch-mist on April 04, 2006, 01:00:39
Thanks katy,
                 Dont understand about the heat thing though ???
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: katynewbie on April 04, 2006, 01:13:26
Well made compost heaps create heat as the stuff decomposes. This will kill weed seeds if the heat is hot enough. If the heap is not hot enough you carry the weed seeds on as you spread the compost about and you get more weeds.

Hope this makes sense?!!
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: MrsKP on April 04, 2006, 05:19:37
I've got a half-full large darlek and despite putting in lots of brown and green, and accellerator, i've never felt any heat in the 6 months i've had it started despite turning the thing twice.

i just keep chucking in regardless but don't plan on having anything useful until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: TEL on April 04, 2006, 06:16:55
Get your O H to pee on it as this will believe it or not help it rot faster.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: MrsKP on April 04, 2006, 06:21:25
oh he does (doesn't need the jam jar though)  :P

(see other thread about whether laydees p is good or not!

I might be asking you for some close up shots today Tel (not peeing obviously).   :P

Going to try and get the back done while i'm still tom and dick.   ;D
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: TEL on April 04, 2006, 12:27:08
Quote from: MrsKP on April 04, 2006, 06:21:25
oh he does (doesn't need the jam jar though)  :P

(see other thread about whether laydees p is good or not!

I might be asking you for some close up shots today Tel (not peeing obviously).   :P

Going to try and get the back done while i'm still tom and dick.   ;D

Just P M me if you want closeup shots
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: aquilegia on April 04, 2006, 14:03:02
Scotch Mist - don't worry about it too much - just bung all the plant material in the compost bin, mix it up a bit and leave it.

Occassionally (once a month or whenever you have time, if you can be bothered!) dig it to mix it and see if it's too dry (add more water or "water") or too wet (add more newspaper).

Generally I just fill mine up and leave it. Don't even always mix it. It stills get there eventually! (takes usually three months in the summer, six in winter).
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: DERYCK32 on April 04, 2006, 15:01:07
Hi.
All good advice but do hope you get some worms in your heap.They are Gods best helpers in a compost heap. The small reddish ones are the best.
Good luck and happy gardening.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: MikeB on April 04, 2006, 15:16:57
To collect worms, place a piece of corrugated cardboard on a grassy area, put a brick on top to stop it blowing away.  Leave for a week, pick it up and turn it over and you will find worms on the underside.  They are attracted by the glue in the cardboard, put worms in compost and replace cardboard in a different spot.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: Mimi on April 04, 2006, 15:43:43
I think that as long as your compost is placed on soil the worms will make their own way there.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: grawrc on April 04, 2006, 16:09:57
Opened up my 3 daleks this morning and they were hoaching with worms. 8) Unfortunatley the heaps aren't very hot and there is some new weed growth round the edges. May have to empty them out, mix up and start off again.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on April 04, 2006, 19:12:47
I just put everything in, then mulch my spuds with the produce, with several inches more mulch over the top. The weeds probably germinate, but haven't a chance.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: bennettsleg on April 04, 2006, 19:51:26
Quote from: katynewbie on April 04, 2006, 00:53:58
anything else that was a "plant product" in a previous life


Including all cooked veg? mashed potatoes with butter (animal product)? Boiled rice? Been scouring the books but no-one answers this query. Bread used to be a plant product, too?

Bit confused now... :)
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: tim on April 04, 2006, 20:04:00
No need for heat to make compost? Only to kill weed seeds?

And, as opposed to watering, we have the bins covered most of the time, to prevent sogging.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: euronerd on April 04, 2006, 21:20:46
Hi bennett, they say don't add anything cooked. The only reason given was that such things might encourage rats.

Geoff.
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: scotch-mist on April 04, 2006, 23:53:02
I've got one of those brown wheelie bins from the council, to put my kitchen and garden waste in , the bin men collect it onced a fortnight ,

However , last year it was hoching with wasps, I think there was a nest in it , havent used it since.  And wont be either.

This is the reason I got my blue barrel with a locking lid,

Once it is full will I just leave it for 3 months and start filling another one, and so on until the first one looks like potting compost?

I dont think there are any worms in it,  and if I put any in it , will they drown in the watery stuff at the bottom.

Sorry for being such a pain,    Thanks
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: katynewbie on April 05, 2006, 00:10:48
The bin needs to be bottomless...few twiggy branches maybe...then fill with all the other stuff. There needs to be air thru it to turn it into compost, otherwise all you will get is rotten slime, also the worms cant get in unless the bin is open underneath. Be brave and cut the bottoms off!!!!!

;)
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: scotch-mist on April 05, 2006, 00:28:03
HI katy,
          thanks , I nearly ended up with slim there Yuuuuukkkk.

I know I'm trying your patience but , when you say it needs air , do you mean
take the lid off or make holes in the sides?

I'm not too keen on either in case it attracts wasps in the summer :(
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: katynewbie on April 05, 2006, 01:06:11
???

Am no expert but things I have read say that an "aerobic" heap needs air, so just being open at the bottom and having a cover on to stop it getting too wet should be ok. Not heard of wasps being a frequent problem, expect you were just unlucky....try not to think about them and enjoy all the lovely worms noshing away on your gorgeous composting material!!

;D
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: Diesel on April 05, 2006, 08:44:43
Scotch mist I have a metal rod which I poke down through the material now and again to make some air holes.If you keep it moist enough you shouldn't get any wasps wanting to nest there.I also keep mine quite firmly packed down, not too much but I do like to get as much into the bin thing as I can.That is really all I do with mine.I recently emptied half of it (I got about 100 litres out of it) and for the first time I noticed there were loads of the red worms everyone talks about.I think this is why you need to bottom open and sitting on soil.Like Katy said to start mine I had a layer of twiggy brown stuff at the bottom to allow the air in a wee bit, then try and alternate layers of brown and green stuff.After it gets going I just keep filling it,packing it down, put some air holes in and watering it.Its a great feeling when you get the first batch out though :) well worth persevering.

you can buy aerator's for the bin for between £10 - £15 but like I say I just use a metal rod (I think it was a metal crook that I bought to hang a lantern in the garden)

http://www.ferndale-lodge.co.uk/pd_559155.htm
Title: Re: Compost Question?
Post by: grawrc on April 05, 2006, 09:02:08
If it's too dry nothing much happens. if it's too wet it becomes disgusting smelly slime.
Agree with Tim the stuff will rot anyway especially once the worms make their way in from the soil, but heat is necessary to kill weed seeds and turning also helps with both that and aeration (mixing different types of stuff). I'm going to remove the "cooked" parts from my daleks and use them, putting the weedy parts back in with hew stuff to start the next heap.