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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Amazin on March 26, 2006, 22:16:52

Title: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Amazin on March 26, 2006, 22:16:52
When does the sprouting happen? What are the signs?

And why aren't mine?!

(mutter... grumble...)
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: delboy on March 26, 2006, 22:35:30
Dunno.

My white and purple sprouting are "resting" I think...
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: jennym on March 26, 2006, 22:38:59
Most problems are due to insufficient length of growing time - they take 9 - 12 months to mature. Well, the ones labelled just "Purple Sprouting Broccoli do here, anyway. The bit you eat are the purple headed flower buds and their stalks- if you leave them and don't pick, they open up into tiny yellow flowers, like a lot of brassicaceae.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: delboy on March 26, 2006, 22:40:25
I hope that was a real word...
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tricia on March 26, 2006, 23:33:53
I have three plants - very top-heavy due to caterpillar damage last summer - BUT they are just starting to sprout and I can see the small purple heads. I've had to shore up the plants, but it looks like I will get quite a good crop. I must admit though that they are much later than last year. Another couple of weeks to harvesting methinks ;D

They take up so much space in my tiny plot that I've decided not to grow them this year. Leeks and parsnips will take their place once the harvest is over.

Tricia
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Roy Bham UK on March 26, 2006, 23:48:29
I think I would have had great success had I not used them as pigeon fodder, still learning the hard way ::)

Netting at the ready for the next lot me thinks. :P ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Curryandchips on March 27, 2006, 08:36:30
Mine are being threatened with eviction too, since we have reached that busy land grabbing time of year. They have two weeks notice ...
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: sarah on March 27, 2006, 08:50:31
isnt that just one of the best things about this site -  I had no idea that i wasnt the only one with non sprouting broccolli! It is so good to know that others are in the same boat. Did you all plant loads of romanescu cauliflower like i did last year, only to get one piddly head from the whole lot and the rest run to seed and cabbage white? please say you did.  I am going out now to give my purple sprouting a pep talk. ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: bellebouche on March 27, 2006, 08:52:17
I had to laugh when I saw the title of this post.

Just about 12 months after planting... and after a lengthy battle with drought and white fly... I finally have some purple happening.

But no sprouting, yet.

The plants have done well over the winter, one or two have half-toppled themselves but I have about ten that are now the best part of a metre high and about 60cm diameter.. lots of purple flushed leaves and they're looking good... but in terms of gettin enough vegetative growth for a harvest of brocolli tips.. I'm still not sure... it's a good job I'm patient... and in the case of these purple non-sprouting things.. I'm being extremely patient!
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: supersprout on March 27, 2006, 08:58:49
Quote from: bellebouche on March 27, 2006, 08:52:17
But no sprouting, yet.
The plants have done well over the winter, one or two have half-toppled themselves but I have about ten that are now the best part of a metre high and about 60cm diameter.. lots of purple flushed leaves and they're looking good

Had to laugh bellebouche, snap. Mine were bought from the local market as seedlings. They are magnificent plants, minus the sprouts - apart from a small flush at the end of Feb. They were obviously mis-labelled, should have been late purple sprouting ;D ;D ;D

I expect them around Easter - after all, the hungry gap is traditionally to the end of May, so they might yet earn their keep. And a bit of nifty work with the rotation (ha ha) plan means they can stay put til early June 8)
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 27, 2006, 09:06:04
Oooh, you lot, how could you?! I only grow in my garden & p/s is something I'd never be without. Three plants is plenty, tho, it's so prolific when it starts going. Usually, here in the midlands, I aim to be picking from beginning of May and this carries on through to late June - just the time when I've little else to pick from the garden, so p/s is a 'must for me'. I think you're all asking for too much to expect to be cropping so early. I know I see it in the shops before mine are ready, but wonder where/how they've been grown.. THERE! Consider yourselves told ;D ;D

A curiosity, last year a friend gave me 6 plants of a sprouting broccoli plant that's supposed to go on for 3 years........called nine-something-or-another,(star?) and the curds are supposed to be golf-ball size...these grew to small tree size, formed a nice hedge :D and kenkew could have used the trunks for walking companions :o......these were so prolific even I was dumping shoots on the compost heap tho the curds were more marble than golf ball size - a 1st for me. 2 I pulled up in the autumn, 2 haven't survived the winter & 2 are limping along. One's been producing for the past couple of weeks and the 2nd isn't far behind.

But I'll be back to 'traditional' p/s next year, tho.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 27, 2006, 09:10:19
Quote from: bellebouche on March 27, 2006, 08:52:17

... I finally have some purple happening.


"Purple happening"....think you've renamed it beautifully ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on March 27, 2006, 09:32:06
A thought or two?

1. Great patience being shown - I would normally expect sprouting from mid-March?
2. Don't necessarily wait for the 'flowers' - it's the leafy stems that are the important bits. Pick from 3" long.
3. With new varieties, you can now harvest sprouting for mos of the year.
4. Don't knock the perennial one?
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 27, 2006, 11:03:38
Tim, is that pic of Nine Star(or whatever)? Remember that you, too, were growing it last year.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: TEL on March 27, 2006, 12:22:22
Quote from: Roy Bham UK on March 26, 2006, 23:48:29
I think I would have had great success had I not used them as pigeon fodder, still learning the hard way ::)

Netting at the ready for the next lot me thinks. :P ;D



Me to :'(
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Meg on March 27, 2006, 12:27:25
Hurray that answers lots. Mine are looking pretty good altho the pidgeons had squashed down the netting and chewed the tops off some. Will have to keep an eye on things then.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Svea on March 27, 2006, 13:27:26
i harvested my first spears yesterday. finally!
good to hear that the season will extend into april and beyond.

however, like tricia, i wont bother with purple sprouting again - they sinmply take too much space for too long on my bijou plot :)

will definately grow green/calabrese again this summer though!
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on March 27, 2006, 16:59:20
That sounds like nine star perennial broccoli; it lasts for several years, and has heads like small cauliflowers.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: scumpy on March 28, 2006, 11:14:55
Purple Sprouting is a fantastic veg. For this time of year any fresh veg is a bonus.
Don't give up, try an 'early purple sprouting' even with the cold spring we have had this my 'earlies' have produced a good crop over the last 4-5 weeks.
PS my late ones are still dormant, or at least thats what I'm hoping

Scumpy
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on March 28, 2006, 11:18:38
Sprouting gives you the longest harvest of any brassica. So worth while.

Kishka - yes - or CCA as some call it.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: kentishchloe on March 28, 2006, 11:20:11
Hmmmm - was going to evict my poor specimens (small with no sprouts but they are purple!) but after reading this I may just give them a couple months grace - it's my fave fave veg so I suppose i should give it the benefit of the doubt. Ok, sixty days notice of eviction...you've been warned!
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: dingerbell on March 28, 2006, 11:28:16
Glad it's not just me. The plants are soooo high maintenance. Initially it was the ravaging caterpillars then every Pigeon in the neighbourhood decided that my plants were "open season". I covered them in netting and the bl***y sky rats decided that they could now roost on the netting and chomp away at their hearts delight. I've had enough, it's Pigeon Pie for dinner. Let's see how they cope with half an ounce of lead up their backsides. ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: supersprout on March 28, 2006, 11:39:27
Purple happenings ;D ;D ;D
(http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8587/picture0072ky.jpg)
But no sprouts >:(
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 28, 2006, 12:30:41
Sprout, That's what I meant by 'hedge size'  ;D but only my nine-star achieved it. My 'normal' p/s stayed, well....normal, like.

Anyone else also grow white sprouting? Mine produces earlier than my purple.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on March 28, 2006, 17:51:17
supersprout by name, supersprout by deed!

Yes, Lishka - much nicer than purple, but a bit less hardy.
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 28, 2006, 18:17:15
Praps not much nicer Tim? But delicate and just that bit ealier........shurely no-one would deny a place for it?
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: flowerlady on March 28, 2006, 19:08:50
Tim I am so looking forward to growing white sb, I have followed your comments over the past six months and bought some seed  ;D 

so it had better strut it's stuff   ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on March 28, 2006, 20:12:33
Lishka - deny a place? - it's our mainstay!
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on March 28, 2006, 22:48:09
Quote from: tim on March 28, 2006, 20:12:33
Lishka - deny a place? - it's our mainstay!

It's the others you have to convince Tim, not me :o 8)
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: stuffed on April 01, 2006, 22:25:22
Quote from: tricia on March 26, 2006, 23:33:53
I have three plants - very top-heavy due to caterpillar damage last summer - BUT they are just starting to sprout and I can see the small purple heads. I've had to shore up the plants, but it looks like I will get quite a good crop.
They take up so much space in my tiny plot that I've decided not to grow them this year.

Snap, getting very impatient now ::)
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: supersprout on April 02, 2006, 01:43:57
My crop came suddenly two days ago - both white and purple, yaaay! :D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on April 02, 2006, 06:33:00
So much depends upon whether you (all) have early or late varieties & whether you sowed at the beginning or end of the 3 month bracket?
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on April 02, 2006, 07:53:02
Quote from: supersprout on April 02, 2006, 01:43:57
My crop came suddenly two days ago - both white and purple, yaaay! :D

Neat avatar, Sprout 8)
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: bellebouche on April 02, 2006, 10:35:56
From out of nowhere... in literally just a couple of days.. my non-sprouting broccoli has reformed it's wayward behaviour.

Sprouts everywhere, immature and about the size of a 50p piece but it's definately just starting to happen. I'll hang fire for a couple of days and then post back a photo.

Patience rewarded at last
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Hyacinth on April 02, 2006, 11:00:39
Yeah! Bellebouche, you'll be a convert to sprouting this time next week :D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli: kind lottie neighbours
Post by: supersprout on April 02, 2006, 14:08:24
I have to go away for a week just as the purple sprouting is coming :'(! Taking a big bag with me. As luck would have it, one of my lottie neighbours came over and we chatted for ages (his apricot tree is in full blossom and I offered to lend him some fleece for next week). He dumped seven bags of spent hops on my lottie, and agreed to prune the broccoli whilst I'm away. What a kind chap!
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: Rosyred on April 02, 2006, 16:09:11
As they take a year to mature would you put these in after the early potatoes have come up?
Title: Re: Purple non-sprouting Broccoli
Post by: tim on April 02, 2006, 16:18:53
Why not??