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Title: FUNNY?
Post by: tim on March 14, 2006, 18:37:11
No one (unless I've missed it) has mentioned WINDBREAKS?

When - in our younger days - we had the 2 allotments up the road, we always used Rokolene windbreaks.

Well worth a look!!
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: katynewbie on March 14, 2006, 19:05:26
;)

Well, was planning on Jerusalem Artichokes for mine..!!!

;D
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: tim on March 14, 2006, 19:33:56
So long as the wind blows from that direction? And it usually blows the artichokes over!!
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: mat on March 14, 2006, 22:30:03
The plot next to me has green "stuff" as a windbreak all round his allotment.  All I can describe it as is strong green finely woven nylon mesh, which is very dense... anyway it is about 4' high and means no sun reaches the about 8' along the southern side of my plot all day in winter... I hope as the sun gets higher, this situation improves.  I have a 4' path along there, but there is still 4' of bed in shadow  >:(

mat
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: glow777 on March 15, 2006, 07:22:12
The wind can only get into my plot from one direction so I used the greenhouse as a windbreak and always try to put wind affected plants on the quiet side.

Would like to try weaving something out of the longer hedge trimmings but without casting too many shadows, there are already too many sheds neighboring my plot
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: MrsKP on March 15, 2006, 07:51:58
that's my problem too mat.  my exposed bit ( :P) about 20' of it, runs east/west and if i put any kind of windbreak up it would leave half my plot in shade throughout the day.

there is a conifer on the neighbour's side of the "bit" which has shrunk considerably since i arrived (loppers are very handy things to borrow) (absent neighbour btw).  the shadow  it casts throughout the day is somewhat less than it used to be.   :P
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: John_H on March 15, 2006, 10:18:07
I grow soft fruit along the north and west edges of the plot. So the wind break consists of different briar fruits plus blackcurrent and redcurrent bushes. Its not that much in the Winter but it thickens up well each spring.
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: tim on March 15, 2006, 10:44:32
I agree that it's a trade-off between light & calm, but if it's your netting, it's well worth it. But too much of a barrier only makes things worse with eddies.

It protects 3 times?? its height.
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: MutantHobbit on March 15, 2006, 10:57:10
Funnily enough I was thinking of investing in wind break material, but as a new guy I'm a bit clueless as to where the prevailing wind comes in from.  I've sourced some 45% windbreak netting from Dax Products Ltd, (www.garden-products.info) and I'm looking at 1M X 50M for £52 inc VAT + Delivery, which seems like good value. :) 

Just need to do some research into which direction the most damaging wind comes from and which plants are most susceptible.  :-\ 

Glad  to see someone's on the ball, Tim! ;D

Dave
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: plot51A on March 15, 2006, 11:03:54
Great subject, Tim. I've bought some planning to use it with my outdoor toms as recommended by Joy Larkcom.
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: Debs on March 16, 2006, 16:11:01
Periwinkle...

I don't want to appear dense here, but...

"What is planning?"

Debs  :-\
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: tim on March 16, 2006, 16:26:18
Nice one!

In our neck of the woods it's something you have to have permission for!!
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: plot51A on March 16, 2006, 22:04:34
Oops where's that comma gone?
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: supersprout on March 18, 2006, 11:04:38
Quote from: glow777 on March 15, 2006, 07:22:12
Would like to try weaving something out of the longer hedge trimmings but without casting too many shadows, there are already too many sheds neighboring my plot

Glow, I have just joined HDRA (Garden Organic) and they have seminars on making willow structures for your garden. Just thought worth posting in case the idea is one for you too?
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: glow777 on March 18, 2006, 17:58:47
will have a look ta SS
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: Debs on March 18, 2006, 19:03:41
Oh dear, that was very dense of me  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: supersprout on June 21, 2006, 20:25:34
Quote from: MutantHobbit on March 15, 2006, 10:57:10
I've sourced some 45% windbreak netting from Dax Products Ltd, (www.garden-products.info) and I'm looking at 1M X 50M for £52 inc VAT + Delivery, which seems like good value. :) 

Hi MH, did you ever get your windbreak netting? If you did, would appreciate tips on how you fixed it? ::)
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: mc55 on June 21, 2006, 20:51:29
our plots all have to have privet hedges around them - one is about 4' high and the other side is around 5'. 

Wind has been terrible here today and last night - will survey the damage tomorrow.  Hope stuff in my potting shed is OK - door is propped open day and night to avoid high daytime temps (can't get there every day).
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: fbgrifter on June 21, 2006, 23:00:18
sorry if this is a really dumb question but what damage does wind do and which plants are susceptible?
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: MrsKP on June 22, 2006, 06:22:21
they break in half, they snap, the get flattened and they get wind burn.   :'(

my broad beans were virtually lying down and look well battered, as do my new pink poppies that have yet to bloom, and it sliced a tomato Totem in half !  i've already had to move a pot of petunias from a wind tunnel as it was going brown with the wind burn.  the sweetpeas up the runner bean trellis seem to have weathered the storm pretty well surprisingly, and the low plants have escaped without harm and possibly might have even toughened them up a bit !  she says hopefully !  :P
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: tim on June 22, 2006, 06:33:44
And they get wind-rock - loosening roots - especially bad for heading crops.

Windburn - that includes dehydration, KP?
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: MrsKP on June 22, 2006, 06:52:54
never crossed my mind tbh tim, although now you mention it as soon as it stops raining the pots in the wind corridor start drying out and quickly too!!!  lol
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: fbgrifter on June 22, 2006, 08:03:50
despite living up in the peak i don't seem to be troubled by wind damage.  anything likely to be blown over i stake, such as the asparagus.  i guess i'm lucky.
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: Gadfium on June 22, 2006, 12:33:47
On the borders going North-South a line of trained blackberries, or raspberry hedge, is a possibility. They leaf up in the growing season giving protection, but block much less light/wind in the cold months.

Last year got a phone call saying vandals had been in and stomped all over the broad bean bed... it was indeed flattened, but it was a strong westerly that had done the rampaging. A lot of string and some canes saved the day, and we did get a crop. One of our most memorable beginners' mistakes, that one!  :-[
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: lancelotment on June 22, 2006, 12:44:46
The 4' windbreak wall of couch and docs on nextdoors plot means I have no problem with wind at all!  Lance
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: MrsKP on June 22, 2006, 22:22:05
Quote from: Gadfium on June 22, 2006, 12:33:47


Last year got a phone call saying vandals had been in and stomped all over the broad bean bed... it was indeed flattened, but it was a strong westerly that had done the rampaging. A lot of string and some canes saved the day, and we did get a crop. One of our most memorable beginners' mistakes, that one!  :-[

that's exactly what mine looked like yesterday.  picked my first crop today though which made me feel better.

;D
Title: Re: FUNNY?
Post by: fbgrifter on June 23, 2006, 16:31:51
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!  me and my big mouth.  been to the 'lotment, most things were blown over, even the staked asparagus.