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Title: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: KMARKSnr on February 26, 2006, 08:48:15
Hi all,
       A fellow gardener on my site swears by a permenant raised bed for carrots.
       The "raised bed" to rid him of carrot fly,and his mixture of soil for cultivation.
       Any thoughts/advice over permenant beds for carrots please ?


                                        Regards,
                                             Mark.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: Roy Bham UK on February 26, 2006, 09:02:07
I'm sure I read carrot fly can only reach heights of around 2ft so your bed will have to be at least that :o I found fleece at that height to be just as effective. 8)
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: growmore on February 26, 2006, 09:32:14
Does he change soil in that bed ? As I don't think it would be a good thing to grow carrots in same place every year.
What do others think?..cheers ..Jim
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: amanda21 on February 26, 2006, 09:47:43
Sorry if this is a hijack of the thread but the fleece at 2 ft - does it need to go over the top of the carrots also or just around them - do you just wrap it around some canes?
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: agapanthus on February 26, 2006, 10:15:33
amanda21....I think just around....to stop them from flying onto the carrots ;D
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: tim on February 26, 2006, 12:02:44
All over!!
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: jennym on February 26, 2006, 13:15:29
When I first took on my allotments, made a raised bed about 2m square and about 20cm deep. The soil is heavy clay, dug it really well and mixed in lots of sand and cheapo B&Q compost, to help make it lighter.
This was used for growing carrots for 2 years running, and didn't notice any problems over this period. But wouldn't do it for longer, as now I know more about rotation would be concerned about build up of pests. It was great to do in the early stages though, as I got good crops which was very encouraging at the time.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: Angi on February 26, 2006, 17:45:06
I've just made a permanent carrot bed, mainly to combat my stony, clay soil. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an article by Alan Titchmarsh where he said he'd made one for the same reasons.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: Jimmy on February 26, 2006, 19:41:41
You will also find that this warms a bit more quickly as well so the early forced if you grow them are early.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: supersprout on February 26, 2006, 23:49:15
Someone suggested planting in old baths which would give you your 2 ft high. If I can find any this year, I will give it a go!
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: MrsKP on February 27, 2006, 07:10:59
i know exactly where an old bath is.  now to persuade the OH and his mate to carry it round.

;D
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: supersprout on February 27, 2006, 08:37:17
You are a champion skip diver MrsKP, would love to know how the carrots do in their bath. Shame they won't come out washed too  ;D
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: amphibian on February 27, 2006, 10:58:17
An old fellow near me grows them in drainpipes of three foot in length filled with soil, he has them stood on paving slabs. One carrot per pipe.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: Jimmy on February 27, 2006, 11:03:41
Are the old fellows just for exhibitions? Saw a program on Medwyn Williams who grew his carrots/parsnips the same way for Chelsea where he received a gold medal for his veg exhibition. Very long, straight roots he got with this method.
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: MrsKP on February 27, 2006, 19:20:53
Quote from: supersprout on February 27, 2006, 08:37:17
You are a champion skip diver MrsKP, would love to know how the carrots do in their bath. Shame they won't come out washed too  ;D

hee hee I've learned all the scavenging tricks i know from this board.  as luck would have it bessie mate (who also donated the divan base which i used as two raised bed frames) has just installed a new bath, and he only lives 200yds round the corner.  i've sent him a text and await his reply. 

i think the OH thinks i've gone bonkers !

now, back to basics, this bath .......... do i you think i should drill holes in the bottom for additional drainage or will the plug hole do ?   :P
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: supersprout on February 27, 2006, 20:04:29
You could contact weedbusta who talks about this at http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,57/topic,13147.0  :) - he's done it, all I can do is dream  ;D
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: MrsKP on February 27, 2006, 20:28:09
and keep your eyes peeled  ;)

thanks for the lead supersprout.  it's quite reassuring to see others thinking along the same lines.

this plot has cost me and arm and a leg since i moved in back in August, so a bit saved here and there soon mounts up, and it's such fun !

(i also like the recyling aspect as there's far too much waste these days).

;D
Title: Re: Raised,permenant,carrot bed?
Post by: amphibian on February 27, 2006, 21:48:38
Quote from: Jimmy on February 27, 2006, 11:03:41
Are the old fellows just for exhibitions? Saw a program on Medwyn Williams who grew his carrots/parsnips the same way for Chelsea where he received a gold medal for his veg exhibition. Very long, straight roots he got with this method.

No, he eats them.