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Title: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: the_snail on February 23, 2006, 04:52:01
Ok I have never grown parsnips. I thought this year I would try. I know they take ages to germanate outside so I thought about starting them off indoors in seed trays then moving the seedlings into the growing positions once they have germanated and formed a true leaf. The question is will they stand up to transplanting or will this check them?

Thanks

The_Snail
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: powerspade on February 23, 2006, 06:18:52
Parsnips dont like to be transplanted, wait until the weather get warmer and sow direct into soil. I usually wait until late March/early April
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: deboydoyd on February 23, 2006, 06:46:29
Going to try parsnips on our new allotment this year. Apparently when you plant you need to make a fair size hole, fill with compost and then sow into the compost because if you have any stones in your soil this will cause the roots to split.If you do a search on A4All theres loads of info.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 23, 2006, 07:59:50
Don't transplant, plant in their final stations. Wait till the soil has a chance to warm up; April is fine, and last year it was too early.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: supersprout on February 23, 2006, 08:12:54
I have seen modules recommended snail, but like you will be trying out the theory this year 50/50 with outdoor planting. Modules (aka toilet rolls) would make sense because they wouldn't require a transplant. Let's compare notes later on!
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: plot51A on February 23, 2006, 10:15:59
I started some off in root trainers last year as an experiment. They transplanted and grew massive - but were big chunky tops then badly forked/split. Still useable but also lots of waste. I also planted some direct and they were much straighter.
I certainly wouldn't bother again, same thing would happen with the loo rolls the tap root grows really fast.
I've always found they germinate fine in the ground, just interplant with markers like lettuce or radish. The worst thing is that when they first come up the seedlngs do look like a very common weed so without the marker - out they come!
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Zippy Seale on February 23, 2006, 10:20:51
A definite no no.  Parsnips and carrots are sown in position.  transplanting the root, which is very fine, breaks and stops all grow. make a hole up to 18ins ft deep, conical is better.  fill with sand/compost mix.  top the last 2 inchs with compost and sow 2/3 seeds in each station.  thin to the strongest seedling.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Curryandchips on February 23, 2006, 10:21:28
I have always used radish as markers, but have never considered lettuce. I would imagine a small variety, eg little gem would be ideal. What have you used periwinkle?
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: growmore on February 23, 2006, 10:56:57
Parsnips dont like  transplanting ..
I use a bar as celtic grower suggests to make a conical hole I.E. I put it in soil and move it around till I finish up with a conical hole.I put multi purpose compost in this and set 3 seeds into each hole..Pulling the weaker ones out as they grow..
As parsnips are ages germinating .I have cut some rings out of 3 or 4 ins inch plastic pipe about a couple of inches wide ..These I place just in soil  around hole where I have set my parsnips then I can hoe the weeds from around  and between the rings..It  is surprising how many weeds pop up when waiting for parsnips to germinate and how parsnip seedlings can look awfully like weed seedlings .This way you know where they are goin to pop up  ..cheers Jim
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: plot51A on February 23, 2006, 13:13:42
Right first time Curry - Little Gem. I find them perfect as an intercrop for parsnips particularly as I don't like radishes!
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: cleo on February 23, 2006, 13:26:17
Parsnips in trays is a no no as mentioned. And also be careful with radish,lettuce markers. They work but sow them a little distance from the parsnip seeds otherwise you may disturb the young parsnips when you pull the `marker` crop.

Parsnips are a no no for me now but I did grow some good ones :'(
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: plot51A on February 23, 2006, 13:52:27
I plant 4" apart - parsnip, - 4"-  lettuce  - 4"- parsnip then so on. No disturbance and no thinning of parsnips!
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: supersprout on February 23, 2006, 14:28:17
This gives me an idea of trying out a mixed lettuce and parsnip seed tape periwinkle. Ooh, the excoitment!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: plot51A on February 23, 2006, 14:36:01
Go for it supersprout!  ;D
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Common_Clay on February 23, 2006, 14:54:42
Hi supersprout, what is seed tape, please? I would guess that it has different seeds stuck to it and you plant the whole thing? But what kind of tape, and can you make your own or do you have to buy it pre-seeded?! :)
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: nickhitch on February 23, 2006, 15:07:33
i am trying a method that i was told last year and that was to save all empty toilet rolls then fill with compost and sow 2 seeds in the top of each roll and apparently when you have 2 leaves at the top the roots will nearly be at the bottom of the tube then just plant  the whole lot in a hole,tube and all as the cardboard will rot away...

just got the leaves showing on mine so fingers crossed,,,will also be planting direct at end of month just to be safe
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: supersprout on February 23, 2006, 19:12:39
Hi CC, for the absolute last word on making seed tapes at home on A4a, try http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,57/topic,5605.msg161036#msg161036. Even includes suggestions for gluten free ones  :o :o
I loved the idea of alternating lettuce and parsnip on a tape - I'd probably put a cluster of 2/3 seeds at 4" spacing, and select the strongest plant when they sprout.
Below is my pic of spinach planted on home made seed tapes in October, I harvest alternate baby plants as they get bigger for salad  :P and the others eventually grow on at 'normal' spacing.

(http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/7633/plotsep057spinach3rj.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Has someone written up seed tapes in the wiki yet?  ??? I ain't figured it out yet  :-[.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Common_Clay on February 23, 2006, 19:18:06
Thanks a lot supersprout for taking the time, love your pic of spinach too, looks very healthy. Definitely will have a look at the link properly when I have more time... and when it's not jst about time for Eastenders... oh no, I've incriminated myself now.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: the_snail on February 24, 2006, 04:13:15
Thanks all for your answers and information. I will not be doing the parsnips in trays but wait until late march and sow direct into the ground. Thanks again for all your advice.

The_Snail
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: sandersj89 on February 24, 2006, 09:29:03
Not something I have ever tried or need to try, but some people swear by pre germinating parsnip seed on kitchen paper in the airing cupboard.

This is meant to get around the germination problems some suffer from when sowing direct.

I sow in compost drills in April/May and get a good germination. The compost drills make it very easy to know where the row is and thinging is simple and does not effect the remaining seedlings.

HTH

Jerry
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Chief on February 24, 2006, 19:52:28
After both seeing & tasting some superb parsnips given to me by some newly made friends at our lottie site,I asked how they grow them.I was shown the following method,black plastic fall piping 4 inch in diameter is cut into 12 inch lengths and just pushed about an inch into the soil the pipe is then filled with potting compost the seed pushed in and the pipes (which are set in a square ) are then covered with fleece.The parsnip then grows down the pipe and slightly into the soil,when ready to harvest they just lift out the pipe and hey presto one perfectly shaped parsnip.They have been using this method for the last few years with great success. - hope this helps.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: Common_Clay on February 25, 2006, 00:45:16
Thanks Chief, interesting that parsnips are grown that way too, I've heard of carrots being grown like that, especially competition 'who-can-grow-the-longest'. Medwyn Williams (think it's his name) showed us that on one of the Gardener's World progs, was going to have a go this year if there's time, so shall shove some parnsips in too. Cheers. ;D
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: redimp on February 25, 2006, 09:43:39
I have ordered White Gem this year because they are shorter and more suited for shallower soil.  No 'how long can you get it?' comps for me.  Is White Gem a good parsnip - I am not a fan and am growing them for OH.
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: flowerofshona on February 25, 2006, 11:58:13
I pre germinate my parsnip seeds which means i can see if older seed is viable.
I put them into a zip lock bag with a tiny bit of vermiculite and make it damp, seal the bag up and hang it in awarm place and as soom as they germanate i take them up the plot and sow as normal :)
that way you know they are growing  ;D
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: redimp on February 25, 2006, 12:32:23
Isn't a cold March or April plot a bit of a shock for seed pre-germinated in the warmth?
Title: Re: Growing parsnips in seed trays???
Post by: flowerofshona on February 25, 2006, 20:38:21
Not when you have covered the ground for a few weeks before hand with black plastic and put a fleece tunnel over them  ;D