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Title: COUCH again
Post by: dandelion on February 02, 2006, 12:10:36
I've been gardening for 15 years, but until 4 months ago I had never even heard of couch grass. While taking to my lottie neighbour, I mentioned 'the grass with white roots' as I wasn't even sure how to pronounce it ???! 'Ah,' she said , 'The COOCH.' So now I know.

Needless to say, my new half plot has a fair bit of couch  >:(! I'm halfway through digging my first bed which will be 7x1.20 metres.  I have removed the grass sods themselves, teased out all the white couch roots and dug out the docks to a depth of at least 20cm. It's painstaking and fiddly, but satisfying to see it transformed. No weed has re-grown or germinated yet. In fact, I am starting to wonder if it is just a bit too easy... Isn't couch  the devil's grass? Then I started to wonder if the fine  brown fibrous roots still left in the soil could also be couch ???  :'(??? I looked at some old threads on couch. Someone mentioned that the white stuff are rhizomes; the actual roots are fibrous and brown.

Will those fibrous roots grow new couch? And if so, will I be able to keep on top of it by hoeing ????
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: flowerlady on February 02, 2006, 12:23:50
Best advice is to keep digging it out.  The WHOLE plant needs to come out!!   If you chop it up there will be millions  :o

I can't remember who said it but there is a tip here to grow turnips - they deter couch grass  ;D
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: supersprout on February 02, 2006, 14:18:32
just shows we all treat couch differently, I use the lazy sod method  ::) to make beds
http://www.allotments4all.co.uk/joomla/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,28/topic,13515.0. If you cover any undug bits with manure and black plastic and leave them, when you peel off the black plastic you will see fat white roots which you can easily pull out (and eat, but I've never tried it  :P)
then I hoe and weed as if any remaining couch were an annual weed, and mulch like mad with coffee/compost/spent hops. Healthy growing plants shade the soil and seem to discourage them, and when you dig and/or fork over, you'll get the rest up by and by as the soil gets more spongelike.
My dad used to seive out all roots through a riddle, but a) he was a perfectionist and b) I am not my dad  ;D
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: umshamrock on February 02, 2006, 15:48:12
hi dandelion,

they call it COOCH grass here in plymouth too. it drives me crazy.

when i first got my allotment last year, like you i just dug out the thick white rhizomes and took off the sods and left the little brown roots. it has only grown back in a few places (probably where i missed a fat white rhizome) and definately stays away if i keep up with it. picking out all those little brown roots is way too much trouble and i don't really think it spreads by roots, just rhizomes. so...good luck with your plot!
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: derbex on February 02, 2006, 21:20:40
I was reading today (in my Enjoy your Weeds book -30p from the library book sale  ;D) that couch roots are a delicacy in France. Mind you -so are snails, and I don't want them on my patch either.

Still, if they're edible it would seem like REVENGE  :o

Jeremy
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: supersprout on February 03, 2006, 05:42:53
That sounds like a fabulous book and a bargain Derbex, let me know when you get tired of it  ;). I'll try most things once but drew the line at standing over the sink scrubbing muddy couch grass roots before stir frying them - it was enough to have prised them out of the ground without spending more time in their company. Still, a Good Thought - if you can't beat 'em, eat 'em ;D
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: Curryandchips on February 03, 2006, 08:50:38
I also read somewhere that in mediaeval times couch was a culinary crop. I think I will give it a miss though.
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: dandelion on February 03, 2006, 09:07:11
I'll try feeding them to my guinea pigs!
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: telboy on February 04, 2006, 21:06:14
Why not Dandelion? Best place FORUM. Groan!
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: Merry Tiller on February 04, 2006, 21:17:47
The proper pronunciation is indeed cooch or you can call it Twitch.
It 's not that hard to eradicate just keep at it
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: Columbus on February 05, 2006, 08:55:04
In the midlands we called it twitch, In norfolk we call it cooch
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on February 05, 2006, 09:44:04
A couch by any other name doth spread as foul.
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: Columbus on February 05, 2006, 13:39:00
i wish i`d written that  ;D
Title: Re: COUCH again
Post by: amphibian on February 05, 2006, 20:15:54
I only worry about the rhizomes, when a piece crops up i trace it down to its source, this is always a piece of rhizome and is never a bit of fibrous root.