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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: marjrie on January 29, 2006, 18:52:36

Title: Asparagus
Post by: marjrie on January 29, 2006, 18:52:36
I wonder if anyone here can help me, I want to try and grow some Asparagus, but having searched this forum and the internet can only find seeds, which it seems takes years to produce any spears.

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get hold of Asparagus that will produce the first year?

I know this may be a dim question, but I'm a beginner.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on January 29, 2006, 18:56:42
You can buy crowns which are usually 1 year old so shouldn't be cropped. In second year you can take a few stalks and then from 3rd year on you can take lots.

The received wisdom says that 2 year old crowns don't take as well as 1 year old.

Whatever way you do it asparagus is a long term investment, but once established the plants will crop for up to 20 years.

You need to prepare the plot really well beforehand. Get rid of perennial weeds add lots of manure amd compost. If you have heavy soil better in raised beds.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Wicker on January 29, 2006, 19:03:15
I bought mine as 1 year crowns last year and don't  expect to have my first small "crop" for at least another year (when they will be 3 years).  I bought them online from Victoriana Nurseries (£1 each) but think you should be able to source crowns pretty easily if you Google.  If you are looking for a wee bit quicker results go for 2 year old crowns.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: tim on January 29, 2006, 20:58:24
Whatever Dobies may say, I believe that this is another test of PATIENCE??

Thing about Victoriana - they can supply at any time of the year.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Curryandchips on January 29, 2006, 21:18:12
I have been given six one year old crowns of F1 Martes. What is the correct spacing for these, and the ideal time to put them into their permanent bed? They are currently in compost in large pots residing in my greenhouse.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on January 29, 2006, 21:54:04
18in apart. March/April I think for planting. Protect from frost.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Trixiebelle on January 30, 2006, 08:55:56
Wilkos did them last year ... very cheap  :)
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: tim on January 30, 2006, 09:35:20
Don't let them dry out!
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: marjrie on January 30, 2006, 10:25:02
Thanks for all the advice, will have a search today and maybe have a drive over to Wilko's.  :)
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: jennym on January 30, 2006, 11:06:07
And if there are no crowns available - how about sowing some seed anyway?
All my asparagus was started this way, and although it does take patience, its amazing how time flies and suddenly, there you are picking the most amazing thick, succulent spears. One of the earliest and welcome veg on my plot, and I'm so glad I did sow the seed when first starting on this site 6 years ago.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Meg on January 30, 2006, 12:22:27
Got mine from Wilco's and this will be the third year this year so looking forward to bumper crop mmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: B7jac on January 30, 2006, 13:19:14
Some years ago I inherited an allotment with a well established and large asparagus area!  It was fantastic, although I'm ashamed to say I didnt know what it was coming through at first, I learned (from the neighbours) that you can only cut them for about 6-8 weeks then you have to let the ferns grow and turn yellow. Has anyone else noticed how much asparagus make your wee smell !!
not a nasty smell just asparagussy ! and so quick !!!

Unfortunately I havent got the lotty any more so I just make do with my nice kitchen garden area which I've just started !
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: allanwoolley on January 30, 2006, 14:17:05
I sowed seeds of Black Knight two springs ago and, perhaps because I made a special effort preparing the soil, they have come on a treat.   And don't forget that one year old crowns have to get themselves established before they can get going whilst a one year old seed sown plant is away like a shot during its second growing year.   This turns the loss of one year into maybe only half a year's advantage.   I doubt if mine could be any better had I grown the crowns as I am sure there will be spears to pick in a few months time.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on January 30, 2006, 18:31:59
B7jac I read something about asparagus and strong-smelling wee and apparently it happens with some people and not with others. I've never been able to afford enough asparagus to test it scientifically and my lottie stuff starts cropping next year. Watch this space..... ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: glow777 on January 30, 2006, 20:22:10
Quote from: B7jac on January 30, 2006, 13:19:14
Has anyone else noticed how much asparagus make your wee smell !!
not a nasty smell just asparagussy ! and so quick !!!

so what happens if you eat asparagus and beetroot!
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on January 30, 2006, 21:37:05
I don't think I rally want to know ;) ;) :o
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Curryandchips on January 30, 2006, 23:58:25
The beetroot effect has certainly been observed, initially with unnecessary alarm, but the asparagus effect is a new one on me ?
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Ceratonia on January 31, 2006, 09:04:36
Apparently, there are two different genes involved. Only some people can detect the smell (about half of us, I think). And not everyone's wee is smelly - it depends on how a particular enzyme in the asparagus gets metabolized.

So if you really want to test the Asparagus thing scientifically(!), you may need to involve a number of people  :o
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Curryandchips on January 31, 2006, 09:18:10
Ah I understand now, re the testing, no thanks !
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on January 31, 2006, 13:19:45
Already a failed scientist  ;) I'll just stick with words.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Multiveg on January 31, 2006, 13:59:31
Experiment, and use results on the compost heap.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Apple Dumpling on January 31, 2006, 23:09:08
So if two people want to have fairly strongly asparagus smelling wee, how many crowns will I need to plant? ???
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on February 01, 2006, 20:07:52
Nobody's done that research yet.  ;)  :P
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: supersprout on February 02, 2006, 12:06:09
My Booke says:

Asparagus is a rich source of folate, a useful source of beta carotene, vitamins C and E, and is diuretic and mildly laxative.
A 100g portion supplies 3/4 of the folate and 1/4 of the vitamin C required each day, as well as the vitamin E and beta carotene which the body converts to Vitamin A.
Both mildly laxative and diuretic, asparagus also contains certain sulphur-producing elements which in some people can give urine a distinctive smell. In traditional folk medicine, asparagus has been used as a tonic and a sedative and also to treat neuritis, rheumatism, and complaints as diverse as toothache and poor eyesight.
Sufferers of gout should also be aware that it is one of the few veggies high in purines. A high intake of purines is linked to the gradual build-up of uric acid salts in the joings, which can aggravate this condition.


Just about enough excuses for anyone to pig out on asparagus there. Personally, I would find it hard to eat only 100g of asparagus at one go  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: Len on February 02, 2006, 16:39:49
I purchased my plants from Ken Muir I have found that the company is very helpfull with after sales infomation and advice always available.
Regards
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: grawrc on February 03, 2006, 20:30:49
They may well be but I've never bought from them as they seem to me to be very expensive.
Title: Re: Asparagus
Post by: robkb on February 06, 2006, 09:51:14
Hi All,

My local Asda (Bexleyheath) are selling a pack of 3 asparagus crowns for just over £2. Bought 3 packs at the weekend, so let's hope they're okay...

Cheers,
Rob ;)