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Title: Hmmmm....
Post by: miketaylor on January 18, 2006, 21:39:39
As I'm a newbie I'll post this here (not brave enough to raise my head in the Edible Plants section yet...) I've got my big box of seeds from Garden Organic including the garlic bulbs - and the instruction is to plant it out as soon as I get it. Is that right? Like this weekend? Doesn't seem like such a great idea. Would appreciate your thoughts.

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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 18, 2006, 22:00:09
You don't say what the seeds are, but garlic should certainly go in ASAP.
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Post by: stuffed on January 18, 2006, 22:03:38
I was just wondering about garlic aswell, as everything I read says either autumn or spring so as I missed autumn I was waiting but if it is okay to plant now I will :)
Does it need keeping indoors or anything while it settles?
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 18, 2006, 23:12:10
No, it actually needs cold to get the bulb to break into cloves. Just shove it in.
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Post by: rosebud on January 18, 2006, 23:24:19
Plant your garlic as soon as you can, the colder it is the better for it.
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Post by: mc55 on January 18, 2006, 23:25:25
mine went in just before Christmas and looks to be sprouting ...
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Post by: redimp on January 19, 2006, 00:00:16
Mine went in November and was sprouting then a tractor ran over it. I will be planting my second sowing in February - this would have been going in irrespective of the tractor.
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Post by: Svea on January 19, 2006, 00:05:39
plant deep , about 2 inches should do it, then forget about it until the little green things show up :)

mine went in in november already
folklore says plant on the shortest day harvest on the longest day
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Post by: miketaylor on January 19, 2006, 07:41:36
Thank you - this is very exciting - it'll be the very first thing i've planted on the allotment. Cheers everyone. M
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Post by: stuffed on January 19, 2006, 09:55:13
That might explain the trouble I had a couple of years ago then I ended up with a single bulb, I used it all be it a bit confused by the whole thing.
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Post by: Hyacinth on January 19, 2006, 15:31:32
Garlic needs a period of extreme cold - looks as if it'll get it too, starting this weekend if the weather forecasters are right :o

Just one year, when I was away Nov/Dec. I didn't get mine in until February. Some bulbs had split into cloves - others hadn't, tho still a goodish size. Didn't affect the eating tho ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: miketaylor on January 21, 2006, 12:56:41
OK - I'm going out now to plant my garlic - anything else i should be planting this weekend? Just for the record I'm planting out in the beds - not in little seed pots.
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Post by: Svea on January 21, 2006, 17:41:30
bung in some broad beans?
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Post by: campanula on January 21, 2006, 19:30:36
i think some garlic does better with a spring sowing - i do Printanor and thermodor but cannot remember which is which - however, get it in when you can, garlic seems amazingly tolerant of times and conditions although my dad claimed that it should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the shortest.
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Post by: Hyacinth on January 21, 2006, 22:44:39
Quote from: campanula on January 21, 2006, 19:30:36
i it should be planted on the shortest day and harvested on the shortest.

Can't decide if this is the quickest growing garlic on record, or the slowest ??? ::) ;D

Mike, if you're going to sow everything directly into the ground, wonder if you should think of starting to warm the soil by covering now with black plastic/cardboard/carpet/whatever?
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Post by: miketaylor on January 21, 2006, 23:16:19
I'm planting in raised beds that have been covered with that black roll membrane stuff. I've planted the garlic but I'm assuming that i pull the sheeting back off that bit so they get to see the sunlight...
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Post by: grawrc on January 21, 2006, 23:34:19
Thermidrome is autumn and printanor spring (I think from French printemps=spring)
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Post by: grawrc on January 21, 2006, 23:36:25
I know that garlic needs cold to get started on producing the cloves, but what puzzles me is how they manage to grow it all round the Mediterranean where they don't have that degree of cold? It is part of so many Med country recipes..
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Post by: Paulines7 on January 21, 2006, 23:50:12
I have ordered some garlic from Tucker's and this will be my first attempt at growing them.  Could you please let me know if I plant the whole garlic or split it up into individual cloves and then plant them?  thanks!
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Post by: grawrc on January 21, 2006, 23:51:34
Individual cloves Pauline.
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Post by: redimp on January 22, 2006, 00:27:18
and plant them deeper than you do onions - at least an inch, as many as three.  I do about 1-2 inches - that's top of clove to soil level - not depth of hole.
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Post by: Svea on January 22, 2006, 01:32:31
QuoteI know that garlic needs cold to get started on producing the cloves, but what puzzles me is how they manage to grow it all round the Mediterranean where they don't have that degree of cold? It is part of so many Med country recipes..

contrary to popular belief, it get cold down there - colder winters than in the Uk for sure.
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Post by: Paulines7 on January 22, 2006, 11:05:25
Thanks Grawrc and RC, I thought that was the case but wanted to make sure I got it right.
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Post by: vee on January 22, 2006, 17:32:47
I got my garlic a week or two ago from Dobies. It's Solent Wight and says on the pack to plant outside March/April. Is this a different sort and should I wait to plant it till March or put it out now? I'm very confused now.
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Post by: Paulines7 on January 22, 2006, 17:48:02
Vee, I've ordered Solent Wight too, but from Tucker's.  It won't be here for another 3 weeks.  The reason I ordered that particular variety is that it is for Spring planting so I would wait until late March or April as it says on your packet.
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Post by: grawrc on January 22, 2006, 19:26:13
Svea I know that most of Europe has a continental climate- cold winters and hot summers- as opposed to the maritime climate in the UK but garlic grows successfully in Corsica goddamit! - and you can swim there all year round it's so mild. ::)
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Post by: kenkew on January 22, 2006, 19:52:08
The ''Plant in spring' garlic is a strain closer to the original plant. (Garlic isn't native to the UK and that one will rot in cold wet soil.)
You can plant it now but to be succesful do it in paper pots and indoors. In March, or when the ground has warmed up a bit, just plant the whole thing in the ground.
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Post by: vee on January 22, 2006, 22:05:01
Thanks ken and paulines7 - I'll wait till March then. I've never grown garlic before so it's all new to me.