Hi All,
I have noticed that over time thread discipline has deteriorated, with more and more threads becoming general 'talking shops'.
Whilst I understand how easy it is for this to happen, it does make things rather difficult to follow some times.
Can I therefore ask that we try to keep 'on topic' with threads, and try to keep general chit chat in The Shed, and The Watershed.
Hope that is clear, and you don't think I am an ogre!
Cheers
Dan
Nah your not an ogre, Ive never heard of a computer literate ogre, especially such a patient one :D
I agree wholeheartedly with you comments Dan, and that is a genuine opinion, I am not creeping to the teacher !!! I have noticed this over a period, but felt it was not for me to comment. I think some light hearted banter is part of what this site is essentially about, but there comes a line as you have pointed out, and serious threads are being marred.
Thank you very much for addressing the issue.
Was I the only one to receive this message as a pm? :-[
I didn't think I went off topic too often but I'll make sure I don't do it again :)
Yes, Jess, it was just you, and I'm so disappointed in you...... >:(
NOooooooooooooo it was all of us, sweetpea!! Don't panic!! ;D ;D ;D
Phew!!!!! ;D Thanks Lottie :)
Oh no it wasn't Lots!!!! I didn't get a PM from Dan ;D ;D ;D I always knew I was invisible, told you before. I agree with Dan though.Â
;) ;)
Good move Dan. I am not against chit chat, but find it a little bothersome sometimes having to trail through it to get to usefull replies to a topic, particularly if i am short of time.
SORRY, Dan!
And someone has to store all the waffle.
Yes I do agree Dan. It is natural that things go off topic a little but I have noticed it happening quite a lot now. Thanks for bringing it to everyone's notice. I will be more disciplined too. :) busy_lizzie
Duly noted Dan..............Sorry :o
Quote from: Jesseveve on January 02, 2006, 09:32:04
Was I the only one to receive this message as a pm? :-[
I didn't think I went off topic too often but I'll make sure I don't do it again :)
Dan pm'd me too. I think we all got it or at least should have.
Perhaps what we could all do if we are starting to wander off topic would be to continue in the shed/watershed with a link for followers to follow?
OK Dan...have smacked wrist.
got one may be I'm a chatter ;D
I generally plant them at around 6 inch spacing with canes although when it's a Grand Prix weekend I listen to more classical than modern music. On the other hand, you can always use roofing felt.
Sorry, I may have strayed a little from the point of this thread. ;D
;D
I think you have to look at it from Dans point of veiw. Lots of chit chat makes the forum bigger and more difficult to manage. He has a difficult enough time keeping things going for us as it is.
I am not saying dont chat just try and keep it to places like the shed and leave the other topics a little freer.
I think the idea of spliting topics or at least starting a linked chat thread in the shed is a good. Just needs a little dicipline thats all.
I'm not dissenting here. I can see that the place needs to be kept tidy. And it's your forum, Dan.
I'd just suggest that life/gardening isn't linear, like threads are, but organic - spreading like a web. So in a sense we're trying to get a square peg into a round hole here.
Take the digging thread which I know has hacked people off. (I think I got trolled a bit there, but whatever). One objection to digging is environmental. Environmental is political (unfortunately). So I guess it isn't too surprising we ended up where we did...
As for the general chit chat, waffle and nonsense - speaking as a major 'culprit', I think it was inevitable when things are slow outside. There's only so many times you can discuss what weeds taste good at this time of year. I imagine we'll all be too busy by March to gossip too much anyway?
I guess you want a busy board all year round Dan?
And do you actually want apologies?
thread discipline??? oooer matron  ::) ::)
mahn best thread discipline (oooer) I ever saw was GW's amazing tapestries. really are fantastic GW and also the fact of a child recieving one on his 1st burfdaze. WOW for sure and LOL @ jesserve about "pm" for crying out loud you iz always going off topic u iz  ;D ;D ;D one minute we is all talking about the calcium defiency in carrots and in you come talking about your last holiday in las veas where you won dead oads and bought some ded serious bling.. or is the mushrooms beginning to kick in????  :D :D :D
getting back on topic .. stand by what i say that GW shows the best thread discipline and if u dont believe go look in da gallery fcol (for crying out loud.. tis the shed)
ozzy
:-* :-* :-*
Ha ha Oz. On the topic of general banter (which IS a sub topic of this thread !) may I remind everyone that there is a chatroom which is available all the time and enables people to have a lighthearted or serious natter on all imagineable subjects, and so perhaps free up the threads from some of the simple conversational issues which have started to invade. I am not suggesting that the chatroom should be used instead of the threads, it is just another facility which is available ...
guilty as charged - sorry.
MMmmm.. Wards not too sure...could be tonight though, will look in my guide to Balderdash....though have to confess to losing the one on piffle... :-X
Let he or she with fewer than 1000 posts throw the first stone... ::) ;)
Hi Wardy, Balderdash & Piffle is on tonight BBC2 9pm.
Erm...OK I fess up! Haven't a clue!! Fancy the pub? There we go!! 2spot knew!!
I fancy the Spielberg film - anyone seen it?
WHich one?? Not ET cos it's crap! ;D
'Catch me if you can'.
I saw 'War of the Worlds' the other day. Can't stand Spielberg or Cruise usually. But it blew me away. Amazing depiction of the dynamics of a 'broken' family. Oh and some big - off Aliens too!
Yup!! Caught it a few weeks ago, brilliant....and I do believe I even spotted Cruise acting...but I'm not sure about that , don't quote me...
I'm too scared to use the chat room :'( Last time I tried I got stuck. BIt like narnia - only banging on the back of the wardrobe to be let back in.
It's actually harder to converse in there 'cos everyone gets across each other.
And if you type at 5wpm like me it's more effective to open the window and shout!
BTW I deleted Dan's PM - just to be disciplined and tidy - and now I've got minus 1 PMs !! Billy no mates or what!
(http://photobucket.com/albums/y31/GREENWIZARD/money_1.gif)
~don't spend it all at once ozzy ;) :-*
QuoteI can't remember seeing him in War of the Worlds
Not the old one Wardy - last year's! Can't recommend it too highly...
QuoteTM who were you shouting at in the Chat Room and why?
Errrm - noone why?
Balderdash & Piffle on at 9 p.m. BBC2, who asked????
CT
Keep up Wardy - it's an ineffective means of communication too. Geddit? Â :)
I fully agree with Dan's pm and wish everybody would stick to the topic in hand. Hate straying from the path I do. ;D
I am not really into live chat - I get myself into trouble far too easily and prefer to able to use the back button - use it a lot when posting in threads when 'better not' flashes across my frontal lobe.
I often type far more than I post occasionally alcohol gets the better of me and I post something that maybe I shouldn't......................thank goodness for delete! ;D
Well, I've learnt to post concisely and not get sidetracked...... ;D
Nothing to do with the thread, but why is the Lady in the Avatar having the 'vapours'??
;D ;D ;D
She's had a hard day at the lottie, Tim, just having a bit of a lie down... still got her DMs on too....
Quote from: undercarriage plan on January 03, 2006, 18:55:34
Well, I've learnt to post concisely and not get sidetracked...... ;D
MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...........................................now theres a thought :o
!! - and our grandchildren always take them off at the door.
Or are we straying here??
Ey up Wards perfic idea................. ;D
QuoteI was thinking of getting some Doc Mart's.
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
So what the craic with the russians cutting off the ukraines gas supply all about? :o :o :o
ozzy
:-* :-* :-*
Ask Lots. she lives in Doc Marts.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Noooooooo!!! They're blinkin marvellous, and come in all flowery pattern... ;D
Bright red today, Carol!!
Quote from: wardy on January 03, 2006, 19:41:32
;D ;D ;D
Come on then, do DM's leak? This is important!
Cats don't leak ;)
Mine blessed well does, drools too... ::)
got good grips too ;D
Can throw mine in the air and it sticks to the ceiling..... :P ;D ;)
mine didn't slip once ;D
You're using too much vecro....
BUT THER'RE BROWN
DMs are a pain in the ass to do up...
worth it though coz they don't leak
You are all nuts......
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
My CATS are brown :)
Real DMs don't have velcro Wardy. Just humour Lottie, she is actually only allowed flip flops...
Thwack!!
I can't stand flip flops!! Wards, any colour matey, really..you've seen mine, they are wonderful, water tight and they're happy boots..
so no-one wears flip-flops to the allotment??
this is an outrage!! im up there with the rotavtor and only my flip-flops, well and some gloves, but other than that nothing.
mkaes the cucumbers grow, they must be gay.....
QuoteI like Tezzer best!!!!!!!!!!!
Quiet Del-boy.
(nervous)
Poor, poor Ady!
Did I mention you are looking very attractive tonight Wardy?
OOOOOOOooooooooooooooo   ;D
Anythings better than delilo ;)...................Sorry I don't very often do quiet ;D
I don't have DM's I wear CATS as in CATERPILLAR BOOTS (spelling might be a bit off there) ::)
Cos you can.. ;D I'm weird, Wards...I wear a toe ring on my erm...2nd toe, but I cannot stand to have anything between my big toe.....sorry....was that too much info? Â ???
Quote from: terrace max on January 03, 2006, 20:33:17
(nervous)
Poor, poor Ady!
Did I mention you are looking very attractive tonight Wardy?
What have I done Terry?
I'm runningback to the footy site - have no lessons planned for tomorrow - cannae concentrate.
What did you do with Aiken Wardy .......................come on now the games up ;D......................poor bubble man ::)
Delilo indeed :o
Quote from: redclanger on January 03, 2006, 20:40:43
I'm runningback to the footy site - have no lessons planned for tomorrow - cannae concentrate.
I wonder why? ;)
.... it's like a scene from Godzilla
Is it too late to change my user name btw? I notice Sexy Snail isn't sexy any more.
He'll always be sexy in my eyes ::).................................and you'll always be good ole Tezzer me ole mate!!! ;D
i noticed that before TM, just click profile at the top, then down the side account information and you can change it.
Cool Adam - Whaddya reckon?
How about Undercarriage Plan?
be original ..pleeeeeeease ::)
:o :o :o
Change it??? Â :o :o :o
Bet Dan's well impressed by the discipline being shown in this thread.
Lottie, Delilo, Terry & Aiky Breaky - I can feel a soap/comedy set in Liverpool coming on.
change it to lottie so UP cant have it!
Now yer talking - or maybe - 'Dan the Moderator'
I tried to change it when I got here, but can't!! :'( And now I am an Undercarriage Plan.... ;D ;D ;D
I'm going for Vlaad The Impaler, meself.....
i like the moderator one.
maybe 'Owner of A4A' ????
We South Africans are into barefoot gardening
now you're talking!!!!!! ;D
I was once referred to as the Bare Foot Countessa, I'll have you know....then I discovered DMs and the image went hurtling out of the window... ::)
Ta everso.... ;D
Looks like I've mucked up my New Years resolution......spelling.....well, I was asking a bit much of meself, really.....by the way, the Lady who called me that, was the owner of the geese...... ;D
New years resolutions are only meant to last a couple of hours lottie so you have not done bad ;D ;D ;D ;D
Phew...Shall I get a headstart on next year's then? ???
Awww Dominique....no luck then....nope, not in here...have you tried in edibles? ???
i seen a pair of secators floating about in the watershed they look dirty , ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Dominique on January 04, 2006, 18:35:59
Anyone seen my secators? ???
D
(No, they weren't in the fridge u.p. :( )
Have to say I am impressed Dominique. There is no English spelling for secateurs - we have kept the French - and you spelled it wrong. :)
so i have spelt it wrong too , nothing new there for me ;D ;D ;D
It's alright Dibs, you're not French ;D
The point has been proven.
Not even Dan's own thread, where he asks posters to try to stay on topic is respected my some.
Never mind the quality - feel the width!
Seriously though - ahem - this is the Shed and people are allowed to wander aimlessly in here if they so wish? I think the new regime has been adhered to pretty well elsewhere :)
dont know RC last time i looked i had strippy shirt on and onions round my next garlic coming out of my ears and bread under my arm , and a beret on so i could be french ;D ;D ;D
But Dibs....then you'd eat frogs legs... :'( Pardon me, Dominique...
Hmmm....
I think it may be time to lock this thread!
Seems that some folk are pushing Dan to the limit? Dangerous?
Maybe a second round of apologies is due??
i dont understand why it was locked??
it was chit chat in the shed, just like he had asked.
Adam 04 ;)
I do believe Dan asked us all to Stay within the Topic ???
Did he not??
A little Banter or chit-chat not Saturation of a Topic!!
I have to say, I am in agreement with Tim on this. Â I do my fair share of idle chit chat I know but at times it does get a little out of hand and my own little opinion re the Thread Discipline is that of Dan having the Pee taken out of him - albeit in a harmless, silly non offensive way (if that makes sense) but there has to be a place to draw the line? Â
More and more threads are starting off as one thing and turning into another for no other reason but loose chit chat. Â I'm thinking for the more garden/allotment minded amongst us (and I don't include myself in that .... yet ....) it must be completely infuriating. Â
Before posting, maybe stop and think if it's relevant to the thread or not and if it's not, drag it somewhere else as was done with the Children and Work thread earlier this week?
Common courtesy is all. Â
:)
Deviating from the thread inside the shed/watershed is OK isn't it? I thought deviating from the thread which was about deviating from the thread was just being ironic??
Can't see much to apologise for so far?
Noticed today the Crocus advert here. Presumably if Dan wants to fund this site he needs to demonstrate a certain membership and posting rate? Whatever you think of the content, the sheer volume of chit chat in the appropriate place must be a good thing if only to attract advertisers. Also indicative of healthy, happy site...??
Just guessing & not trying to be vexatious. Just won't apologise for reasons I don't understand...
:) Yep, yep, can't say I disagree with any of that TM. Certainly appears to be what The Shed and Watershed are for and I myself am more than capable of inane drivel 24hrs a day, lol.
Was referring to Dan's Thread Discipline thread if you see what I mean? :)
And quite a few of the other targeted subjects suffered a similar fate, think that's why Dan posted what he did? :)
yes i understand about the thread discipline on other parts of the board.
But i dont see how when he says chat only in the shed, not elsewhere and then we do, in the shed, all be it on that thread it gets locked.
To me, locking a topic is just doing the same as removing it from the board all together, and apparantly it isnt done very often (removing threads) but its being done regularly i see.
QuoteWas referring to Dan's Thread Discipline thread if you see what I mean?Â
And quite a few of the other targeted subjects suffered a similar fate, think that's why Dan posted what he did?Â
Hear what you say Petals. And you know as well as I do that none of the chatterers wants to disrespect Dan. I think he's got a sense of humour too?
I agree that targetted threads should be observed elsewhere. But equally I can't believe that any member with more than say 1000 posts has ALWAYS stuck to the point in every thread ;D
I think people should say what they mean. If they don't like the people involved in the banter, in it's proper place, that's different from the banter itself being wrong.
Dan locked the thread......................we got the message.........................why start it all up again
As far as I can see except for on one occasion banter was reserved to the Shed and Watershed and on the one occasion it wasn't all it took was a gentle prompt to remind us!
I have apologised once and never ever want to offend but surely as we get busier and spring rolls on the banter will naturally cease anyway won't it ............we'll all be too busy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have to say, I did see Dan's "Hmmmmm" as a wry one, with the corner of his mouth tilted up..... :)
Have to agree with Tim. Dan was pointing out the need for thread discipline, which we have probably all been guilty of one time or the other, but for people to deliberately disregard his topic and seemingly wander off in a variety of unrelated chatter seems a bit of a slap in the face to him. I think he has been very patient but let's not test it too much. busy_lizzie
Please don't shoot me but I feel a lot of the chat that takes place should rather happen in the chat room. Remember that only a certain amount of space is available for storing all the threads, the more chat there is means the more older stuff has to drop off the edge into that black hole, some valuable information may be lost. I often go back 1 year to see what was being discussed as it's relevant to what's happening now, if there's too much chat there may come a point when you can't go back as far as a year, that would be a great shame. There is another forum where this has happened, a great loss in my opinion. I'm not sure if this is right but if the forum becomes loaded with too much chat does that mean Dan has to upgrade to a host that will carry the extra load, at an extra cost to Dan, I wouldn't want to contribute to more expense for him. And about the advertising, I think the advertisers work on number of hits through the links rather than how much posting is done on the forum, I have advertised here in the past and the reports I got through email were number of hits rather than how busy the site was.
I have been gulity in other threads and for that I hold my hands up and will bite my lip...promise....but as Wards said, and Dan himself, the shed is for Non allotment related chit chat, isn't it?...you're safe Jess, only have water pistol at min.. :)
i must hold my hands up to, very guilty of going off topics in other treads , think that i will properly be limited to the shed from now on till i can behave , god not been on-line for weeks and i have missed behaved allready  ;D ;D sorry if i have annoyed in anyway to peeps ,but we are all properly a little guilty  :( :( :(
I'm sooo sorry....I just can't not!! I've bit my lip and gagged and everything but...sigh....can't see anyone attempting that manoeuvre, Wards.. :)
I have strong opinions about this, but I am keeping them to myself. I am enjoying the chat room and the people that are currently using it.
You may have noticed that I am not posting as much anymore. The fact that this thread exists at all should spell it out.
The only person I have any interest in discussing my views with is Dan.
Some enjoy the chatroom DTF. Some enjoy the Shed. Each to their own perhaps? I'm still struggling to see a problem ???
Ditto.
i find the chat room to fast cant keep up with it, plus it has loads of screen freeze,s on me , i love the shed has good friendly banter in it with lots of happy nice peeps ;) ;) ;)
both have their advantages.
And you see people in the shed you dont in chat and vise versa.
No need for over-the-top type reactions here.  No knee jerking needed when all is being asked is to stay on topic in the relevant forums/threads  ;D
And I have to ask, Derek, if the only person you want to chat with on here out of the hundreds is Dan, then why are you still here? Â Don't really get that one? Â Pardon my ignorance. (not that Dan isn't a lovely fella I might add before I get jumped on!)
Yellow Petals
In a previous thread re christmas you attacked me publically, twisting my words to make your arguments appear to hold water.
You are doing it again.
The only person I will discuss my views with is Dan, that is nothing to do with who I want to chat to.
Why you relish attacking me, I cannot fathom. You want me off this site? Shall we hold a vote?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just leave me alone eh?
Oh eck.
I find it fascinating that the same few words can be taken in so many different ways by so many people.
Let me make a few things clear,
I do not want or expect (or have indicated I would like) an apology from anyone.
I locked the thread discipline thread as my reading of it was people were just continuing the thread for the sake of it - I will reopen it, merge it with this one, and allow you all to continue.
I don't think what I have asked is out of order, if you feel it is, contact me and let me know, I have only received positive messages about the request.
Now,
GO Â ;D
Quote from: Derekthefox on January 05, 2006, 18:56:46
Yellow Petals
In a previous thread re christmas you attacked me publically, twisting my words to make your arguments appear to hold water.
You are doing it again.
The only person IÂ will discuss my views with is Dan, that is nothing to do with who I want to chat to.
Why you relish attacking me, I cannot fathom. You want me off this site? Shall we hold a vote?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just leave me alone eh?
Apologies if you feel I have twisted what you said, but I can assure I do not think I have. My post was not out of spite - I asked you a civil question to a point you raised yourself. You said you only felt you wanted to discuss matters with the administrator of the board so I asked you why you still used the board if you were not interested in talking with any of the other members. I dont see that as rude or unreasonable?
And as far as attacking you personally? I left the playground a long time ago, suggest you do too.
Dont expect any response from me in the few hours - am off out with my beau :)
Scuse me, a min....Dan...it was a wry Hmmmm wasn't it? It's bugging me now... :-\
Have a lovely time, Sam!
Quote from: Yellow Petals on January 05, 2006, 19:05:17
Quote from: Derekthefox on January 05, 2006, 18:56:46
Yellow Petals
In a previous thread re christmas you attacked me publically, twisting my words to make your arguments appear to hold water.
You are doing it again.
The only person IÂ will discuss my views with is Dan, that is nothing to do with who I want to chat to.
Why you relish attacking me, I cannot fathom. You want me off this site? Shall we hold a vote?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just leave me alone eh?
Apologies if you feel I have twisted what you said, but I can assure I do not think I have. My post was not out of spite - I asked you a civil question to a point you raised yourself. You said you only felt you wanted to discuss matters with the administrator of the board so I asked you why you still used the board if you were not interested in talking with any of the other members. I dont see that as rude or unreasonable?
And as far as attacking you personally? I left the playground a long time ago, suggest you do too.
Dont expect any response from me in the few hours - am off out with my beau :)
No further comment
my new book.
a day in the life of an A4A poster.
Packed with gossip, controversy and scandel!! all you will ever want to read. ;D
Stick to topic in book though Adam... ;D sorry, I'm not doing very well am I... :-\
Like your 3184 posts Derek?
;D ;D ;D
Another board I'm on has a special section where threads of permanent interest go (it's quite easy for a moderator to move them from one board to another) and where banter isn't allowed. Other threads are eventually deleted, and anyone can ask for a thread to be put on the permanent board, with the banter, if any, deleted. Something like that might answer the concerns about threads disappearing.
What about those posts telboy :) It is not the number of posts, it is my rate which is less now, that is all that has changed.
If this, or any other thread deteriorates into personal abuse then it will be locked and deleted.
oh crikey not another thread of arguments! Â :-[
Why do all long term areas of communication ultimately end in discord and the manager of the site end up piggy in the middle?
My own theory is that without body language, tone of voice and being able to see the twinkle in someones eye (or glare!) that the context or tone in which something is written is only as relevant as the mood or current thoughts of the reader.
Is that relevant here? Â I think so because that is what leads to misunderstanding and mistrust. Â Can also result in very long drawn out 'banter'.
This forum seems to have lasted very well so Dan can't have being a doing a bad job and probably hasn't changed that. Â That only leaves us lot to have changed.......and after all, presumably the forum is managed for us as much as anything else. Â So if anything has to change it needs to be us! Â Â Dan I expect is only bowing to wishes or hopefully the common good.
.....and as a joker and side conversationalist none of that is not directed at anyone specific as it includes me! Â So shall try to abide by the wishes to avoid to much side banter and jocularity in the 'serious' threads.
Iain  please can we all have a HAPPY New Year... ;D
QuoteThis forum seems to have lasted very well so Dan can't have being a doing a bad job
You don't think this could be down to a few "bores"
I wonder if they know who they are?
Quote from: busy_lizzie on January 05, 2006, 17:35:51
Dan was pointing out the need for thread discipline, which we have probably all been guilty of one time or the other, but for people to deliberately disregard his topic and seemingly wander off in a variety of unrelated chatter seems a bit of a slap in the face to him. I think he has been very patient but let's not test it too much. busy_lizzie
You hit the nail right on the head Busy Lizzie.
Nothing wrong with 'aimless wandering' (to use Terrace Max's words) in the Shed but why not start a thread of general banter or aimless wanderings. Why go way off topic on someone elses thread and not only that but wander aimlessly, on a thread that has a clear topic? Start your own thread but don't sabotage other people's, it's disrespectful.
i do agree with you Ina it is very disrespectful , bit some times one thing is said and it leads to another and before you know it the thread has completey disappeared , i don't think or believe that any body would sabotage someones theard , i am a banter and gone off of loads of threads , but have never done it on purpose , so i will behave in future and just keep my banter to the shed , and see if Dan could move lottie laughters files to the shed as it is an old flame
Point taken Dib, treads do tend to take on a life of their own.
With a bit of respect things can stay pleasant.
Perfect place for banter....I mean, we've had JCBc, erm groovy parties, Ann Summers, cross dressing, tadpoles...Anything really....apart from a space launch....there's as idea Dibs!!! Rocket propulsion!! Pink one of course.... ;D
does seem to have the pink theme lottie laughters files , there we go again going off thread , Dan COULD YOU PLZ PLZ MOVE LOTTIES LAUGHTERS FILES TO SHED PLZ
Psssst Dibs....not sure if they allow rocket launching here....may have to go with toilet roll model.... ::) :-\
Quote from: Derekthefox on January 05, 2006, 19:12:09
Quote from: Yellow Petals on January 05, 2006, 19:05:17
Quote from: Derekthefox on January 05, 2006, 18:56:46
Yellow Petals
In a previous thread re christmas you attacked me publically, twisting my words to make your arguments appear to hold water.
You are doing it again.
The only person IÂ will discuss my views with is Dan, that is nothing to do with who I want to chat to.
Why you relish attacking me, I cannot fathom. You want me off this site? Shall we hold a vote?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE just leave me alone eh?
Apologies if you feel I have twisted what you said, but I can assure I do not think I have. My post was not out of spite - I asked you a civil question to a point you raised yourself. You said you only felt you wanted to discuss matters with the administrator of the board so I asked you why you still used the board if you were not interested in talking with any of the other members. I dont see that as rude or unreasonable?
And as far as attacking you personally? I left the playground a long time ago, suggest you do too.
No further comment
Amen to thatQuote from: undercarriage plan on January 05, 2006, 19:09:40
Scuse me, a min....Dan...it was a wry Hmmmm wasn't it? It's bugging me now... :-\
Have a lovely time, Sam!
Cheers, Lots. Myself, hubby and a friend went for a quick curry then off to see The Producers. Not as good as I thought it would be but a good 3-4hrs out all the same  :)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Admin aka Dan on January 01, 2006, 19:44:20
Hi All,
I have noticed that over time thread discipline has deteriorated, with more and more threads becoming general 'talking shops'.
Whilst I understand how easy it is for this to happen, it does make things rather difficult to follow some times.
Can I therefore ask that we try to keep 'on topic' with threads, and try to keep general chit chat in The Shed, and The Watershed.
Hope that is clear, and you don't think I am an ogre!
Cheers
Dan
To get back on topic!!!
;)
I am admin on a forum, and we never let our threads go off topic.
That way, if anyone wants to refer back to anything - they know just where to look.
:)
Agreed, especially the original post.... ;D ;D ;D
Quotewhat's with this trend for quoting great chunks of text. We've just read em once then they get flagged up again, taking more room up  Peeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room and taking too long to read Â
Agreed, especially the original post....
I agree wholeheartedly. Especially this bit:
Quoteespecially the original post....
this bit:
Quotethis trend for quoting great chunks of text.
and this bit:
QuotePeeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room
But mostly this bit:
QuoteLIGHTEN UP FOLKS!!
Eh up Wardy. Call me Stud Lovegod. Gone a bit weird round here recently. In the good old days it was just you and me falling out.... :-\
I still haven't worked out how to quote ??? all I get is blessed line saying quote... ::) ;)
Quote from: undercarriage plan on January 06, 2006, 17:22:56
I still haven't worked out how to quote ??? all I get is blessed line saying quote... ::) ;)
Just pressed quote button, Lots :)
By the cringe Glyn,
I THINK YOU'VE CRACKED IT11
Y.P. Would you like to dance?
:) :) :)
HOw do you quote bits of things then, not the whole lot? ???
Two choices DM lady:
- Use aforementioned method and delete the bits you don't want, OR;
- cut and paste the bit you want into your reply box. Highlight and hit quote button. Voila.
:)
erm...ok...scrap option 1...option 2??? ::)
Have just found and read this thread.....now can someone please explain what it is about??
Happy New Year.
Chris
Ever read War and Peace chriszog?
Well, it's nowt like that....
Quote from: wardy on January 06, 2006, 16:35:34
what's with this trend for quoting great chunks of text. We've just read em once then they get flagged up again, taking more room up ;D Peeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room and taking too long to read  ::)
I did it because we were on page 8, and the subject had long gone off topic. So people who were just reading from that page wouldn't have known what I was talking about otherwise.
;D
Quote from: Whippet on January 07, 2006, 14:45:35
Quote from: wardy on January 06, 2006, 16:35:34
what's with this trend for quoting great chunks of text. We've just read em once then they get flagged up again, taking more room up ;D Peeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room and taking too long to read  ::)
I did it because we were on page 8, and the subject had long gone off topic. So people who were just reading from that page wouldn't have known what I was talking about otherwise.
;D
Thats ok then..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: adam04 on January 07, 2006, 15:00:21
Quote from: Whippet on January 07, 2006, 14:45:35
Quote from: wardy on January 06, 2006, 16:35:34
what's with this trend for quoting great chunks of text. We've just read em once then they get flagged up again, taking more room up ;D Peeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room and taking too long to read ::)
I did it because we were on page 8, and the subject had long gone off topic. So people who were just reading from that page wouldn't have known what I was talking about otherwise.
;D
Thats ok then..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
What you lot on abaht?
They're just showing off Wards, just cos I'm just learning.... blessed show offs.. >:( ;) :)
Quote from: redclanger on January 07, 2006, 15:13:01
Quote from: adam04 on January 07, 2006, 15:00:21
Quote from: Whippet on January 07, 2006, 14:45:35
Quote from: wardy on January 06, 2006, 16:35:34
what's with this trend for quoting great chunks of text. We've just read em once then they get flagged up again, taking more room up ;D Peeps were complaining about chat taking up too much room and taking too long to read ::)
I did it because we were on page 8, and the subject had long gone off topic. So people who were just reading from that page wouldn't have known what I was talking about otherwise.
;D
Thats ok then..... ;D ;D ;D ;D
What you lot on abaht?
No we are not. ;D
:P
Are they still in the Cup? ???
Quote from: wardy on January 07, 2006, 15:34:51
Be warned Wardy is now getting her boots on and will shortly be kicking ass! Mostly Clangers. Why aren't you at the match anyway? They need all the supporters they can get ;D
My current consternation with the board and management and the fact that we are away in Wrexham was enough to persuade me to stay at home and listen to the radio. What I have heard so far has not persuaded me otherwise.
And I don't even know how to feckin quote :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Apparently you hit the quote button.....I'm a beginner in this skill, but I'm slowly progressing to partial quoting... :)
Agreed 0 - 0 at Wrexham in the Lge. I'd rather chew my own leg off... ;)
Quote from: terrace max on January 06, 2006, 17:24:37
Just pressed quote button, Lots :)
We are rubbish in the cup competitions - in fact we are rubbish in all competitions at the moment.
Quote from: wardy on January 07, 2006, 15:43:35
Good Jaggy! Â Don't listen to Max if he tries to teach you, or Lots!
No, Lincs not still in line for bagging the FA cup this year (don't think so anyway)
By jove...think I got it chaps....tallllllyhooooooooooooooo n all that ;D ;D
Wardy I like a good kick...am ready and waiting.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D OK I can do it, now need lesson in when to quote, cos still don't get that bit...and don't want to go off on an irrational quotathon, or unsupervised.... :-\
I would assume when there is a moot point in a post...that way you don't go
of on the wrong tangent...or is that too mathimathical...try that without
spell checker lots... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Are you insane!!! I'd definitely be talking Finnish..... ::)
What about grunion? eh?
Which bit Wards? ??? grun(n)ion is a multi facetted word and you can spell it with as many ns as you get the urge too, well, in my book anyway and my keyboard it sticky too... :-\ bad combination
Sorry Ady! I really thought a grun(n)ion was a bit like a sprocket....
Thanks Wards.. What's a sprocket? ???
Quote from: undercarriage plan on January 07, 2006, 16:09:08
Thanks Wards.. What's a sprocket? ???
http://www.onelook.com/
 Thats because I never used it wardy.... ;D ;D :P :P
 Grunion......that be a growling bunion ? or a grinning union.. (doubtful)
 now where did I put me quote button  ;D ;D ;D ;D anythin to get wardy on
 her high horse... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Is it like a grunion?
a sprocket, I mean
Don't worry this will wind her Wardship up too....
I'm keeping on her good side....hoping she'll take Russ back after his moonwalking exploits...........
 Something fishy about this max  ;D ;D ;D ;D
So what has grunions go to do with undercarriage plans if they're fish? ???
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am sooooooooooo not going there :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: undercarriage plan on January 07, 2006, 16:22:02
So what has grunions go to do with undercarriage plans if they're fish? ???
maybe fish get caught in the undercarriages when doing emergency landing on water?? maybe they have to take that account when planning....
other than that not a clue. ;D maybe RC was just showing off his quoting ability.
Whoah folks!!!!
Isnt the way this thread has developed exactly what dan was trying to avoid by starting it in the first place?
Its just become another chat thread hasnt it? 3 pages added (at least )since i last looked at it.
Dan, you should have posted your request and then locked the thread mate. Now look whats happened  :o ::)
he did, then unopened it. then locked it, so another thread was started. then he unlocked it and merged the two and then it was agreed it was appropriate as it is in the shed!!!
The problem is Adam, what happens if someone clicks on this expecting to read about Thread Discipline and comes across what appears to be private chatter amonst a few people that is totally unrelated, it means they have to troll way back to catch the gist of the original thread. ??? busy_lizzie
If they have not read this thread before then the new button will take them to Dan's first post and the early jist of the thread. If they have read it before then they will know what they are entering and that the thread has moved on.
yes but the original thread is fine, and that is what they will see. Â not like its a question so people will be looking for answers and be searching through endless pages of chatter for the answer. the gist of what happened is in the first post.
Quote from: redclanger on January 07, 2006, 17:05:50
f they have read it before then they will know what they are entering
Unless it is Lottie or Max - then I just do not want to know ;D
Whoah folks!!!!
Isnt the way this thread has developed exactly what dan was trying to avoid by starting it in the first place?
Its just become another chat thread hasnt it? 3 pages added (at least )since i last looked at it.
Dan, you should have posted your request and then locked the thread mate. Now look whats happened
Bear in mind GC...we are in the shed...not out in the main forums
::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
What? ???
Quote from: Admin aka Dan on January 01, 2006, 19:44:20
Hi All,
I have noticed that over time thread discipline has deteriorated, with more and more threads becoming general 'talking shops'.
Whilst I understand how easy it is for this to happen, it does make things rather difficult to follow some times.
Can I therefore ask that we try to keep 'on topic' with threads, and try to keep general chit chat in The Shed, and The Watershed.
Hope that is clear, and you don't think I am an ogre!
Cheers
Dan
Consider it done - as well as a few lilies while your at it. ;)
Now for a bit of pig braiding, goat wanging and wellie riding :-\
;D I really must practice this quote milarky...Thanks Ady. :-*
Quote from: jaggythistle on January 07, 2006, 17:49:25
Bear in mind GC...we are in the shed...not out in the main forums ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
But its still not 'On Topic' is it. A thread about 'Thread Dicipline' should - in my opinion - be about just that. If you wish to go off on one then start a new thread. ;D ;)
I think the point is Richard, that in the Shed we can give up the pretence that it's possible - or even desirable - to stay on topic at all.
Quote from: terrace max on January 07, 2006, 18:59:30
I think the point is Richard, that in the Shed we can give up the pretence that it's possible - or even desirable - to stay on topic at all.
Then whats the point in seperate topics TM? Lets just have one big topic with no divisions and see how we get on?
I think some people want to turn all the forums into an episode of Just a Minute.
I'm sorry if I've upset you, Richard, I just can't see the problem. This is chit chat and it's in the shed? I trust Dan and he joined them together and said now off you go, and I am? I don't see that anyone is being harmed. I have been very well behaved elsewhere and have stuck to topic. To be honest I Â don't see why this is a problem. :-\ Â Dan said not to insult, I never would, can't spell half the insults anyway, I suppose I just wish this thread would drop, but keeps getting pulled up again....anyway, I'm back on topic! Â :-X
Just picked the first decent sized topic in 'Edibles'. In under two pages (and post-Dan's request) the topic covers earwigs, photo prowess, seed quality and , oh yes, aubergines...!!
I'm sorry but I can't see staying on topic as realistic or desirable. Sure the banter should be confined to the shed but to complain about it in here is - errm - odd.
Those complaining will probably find that because 'Please delete' and 'Thread Discipline' have become chatting threads that threads elsewhere (and other threads in The Shed) stay on topic. We are saving the frivolity for these two threads and nowhere else. Those complaining have been in and out of here, no what this thread is about, so if they do not like it, stay out of the thread. Its a bit like complaining about telly programmes - there is always the off button.
If you can't take the banter, get out of the shed.....
Ooops sorry that should be in Old Sayings thread.....
49 isn't that old Nathan... ;)
Life begins at 40 :-\ :'( ;) who the heck said that!
Billy Liar?
I meant it is an OLD SAYING terrace max not that I am old.... now will you PLEASE stop PICKING ON ME!
And no 49 is not that old, and don't you youngsteres forget it!
Sorry Nathan. (louder) I said SORRY NATHAN!! Oh, never mind....
Quote from: terrace max on January 07, 2006, 19:37:26
Sorry Nathan. (louder) I said SORRY NATHAN!! Oh, never mind....
There you go Max, just in case his eyesight is failing as well.
oh, the smugness of the thirtysomethings... eh, Ady, Lottie?
Oh, sorry Lottie....
Quote from: Nathan on January 07, 2006, 19:34:35
I meant it is an OLD SAYING terrace max not that I am old.... now will you PLEASE stop PICKING ON ME!
Hahahahahahahahahaha, I likes it ;D ;)
Hey Sam! Did you have a nice time? And Max, I am still 30 something so na :P
Quote from: terrace max on January 07, 2006, 19:41:37
oh, the smugness of the thirtysomethings... eh, Ady, Lottie?
Oh, sorry Lottie....
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Agree with you Nathan 49 is not OLD
Ady!! You're welly wanging is as good as your goat braiding skills.... :P and before I forget......THWACK feel better now, ty..
am I missing something Ady.....................only got an ickle red cross ???
No...you're not... ::) Delilah where's Dibs got too??? I've had to postpone launch... :-\
dunno babes ::) thinks we might need to go over and surgically remove son from laptop ;D
Well I'm just going to hav to delay til tomorrow, now....honestly and I've just reattached me smoglflut.... ::)
okey dokey ???
Right, I'm back. Who wants some discipline?
Erm..well the goat is getting a bit antsy....and Ady so needs to practice more... ::)
lol - thought it was Suffolky expression ;D
Thank you Wards....trying to think of SUffolkism....but bar goat braiding am lost.. :-\ apart from the guts thingy....but ...tst....too risky.... ;D
How's about
"I've got a brand new combined harvester and I'll give you the key"?
In Cumbria they say 'Ise gaan for a pee leek marrer' - 3 vegetables in one vernacular phrase. Now NO-ONE can say that is off topic in an A4A thread.
How we laughed. :(
Really confused now :P I wanted to reply in this thread (was it only yesterday ? ? ) and it was locked. Now I've lost the o'ller one, the one we couldn't delete, even if we'd wanted to, which we did not.
Going for a lie down
D
you've confused me now....
wrong thread!!! tis the other oen about wunging and wanging and wonging. i think :-[ :-[
not sure myself, just looked up and saw something about goats. think everyoens getting confused and merging together!
Quote from: Garden Cadet on January 07, 2006, 16:45:16
Whoah folks!!!!
Isnt the way this thread has developed exactly what dan was trying to avoid by starting it in the first place?
Its just become another chat thread hasnt it? 3 pages added (at least )since i last looked at it.
Dan, you should have posted your request and then locked the thread mate. Now look whats happened  :o ::)
Ooo, I meant to jump on this at an earlier stage. Not this particular message, but the subject matter.
I don't know if you all know, but I recently discovered (am a bit sloooow) that there is an
'ignore member' feature (no, not an ignore member's feature....fnarr fnarr) in your profile preferences so if there is an A4A member or members whose posts are driving you up the wall or simply posting too much chit chat etc etc, stick them in the ignore list and voila! no more being faced with annoying posts when you come onto the board! I'm now using it and jolly glad that I am!
Could also help to diffuse heated situations and ...praps a number of you who PM'd me lately might now like to use it too?! (not against me though I might add .... beg.... ;D )
Hope this is of help to someone :)
Sam
Your loss if you miss an important and helpful post from someone you have ignored.
Blimey, where did that come from?! Not sure why you would say that <shrug>
Not looking for unnecessary comments, RC, was just passing on useful information. Couple of people I've spoken to lately didn't know about half of the features available in the preferences and given some of the comments on this thread (especially) I thought it a good idea to post a tip!
Sorry - feeling a bit tetchy just now - will delete the second and (admittedly) unnecessary part of my post. :)
Awww Ady....don't be tetchy! You're wonging is getting better every day, really....sorry Dominique and Adam this goat has a mind of it's own, trying for control, but think Ady braided it a bit too blessed tight... ::) ;)
Don't get bloody tetchy? You'd be bloody tetchy if a tractor had driven all over your garlic. (See Pests, Diseasles & Disorders)
Just seen.....sorry, Ady....feel free and grrrr..... :-\
Thank you for that useful information YP, i have been on here a long time and had no idea about that :o YES i am sloooooow to. very useful. ;D
Will you tell us who you're blocking out?
Ooops you probably don't even know I've written this ;D
D
Quote from: Dominique on January 08, 2006, 21:39:03
Will you tell us who you're blocking out?Â
Ooops you probably don't even know I've written this  ;D
D
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;D ;D
I didn't know you could freeze folk out either! Mind you I don't know owt ::)
Don't think it works on pets, Wards... ::) ;)
I'm going to block everybody so it looks like I am Billy no mates ;D
Who said that? ???
eh? ;D
I don't need to block to be billy no mates.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Who said what? ???
Where is everybody? ??? ???
Quote from: terrace max on January 07, 2006, 19:09:42
Just picked the first decent sized topic in 'Edibles'. In under two pages (and post-Dan's request) the topic covers earwigs, photo prowess, seed quality and , oh yes, aubergines...!!
I'm sorry but I can't see staying on topic as realistic or desirable. Sure the banter should be confined to the shed but to complain about it in here is - errm - odd.
However if you were searching for an answer to a particular question/problem and were short on time wouldn't it annoy the pants off you if you had to trawl through a load of irrelevance?
It is perfectly possible IMO to keep it on topic, and I am not alone in this opinion, despite those who have 'posted against me'.
As far as i am concerned the shed is the best place to duscuss it since it is the part of the forum for discussing NON SPECIFIC (ie non gardening/covered in other areas) topics.
Discipline...I'll give you discipline...thwack!
heldi i like the new hair very you ............ ;D ;D ;D
Grabs strange Mexican man and shakes ....."What have you done with Heldi!!!!" Come on man, out with it!!! ;D
i reckon it s the in look for 2006 :o :o :o :o
Oh let's hope... :P ;D ;)
was finking about getting hair like that to go on top of space helmet
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D!!!
OK I'll go for a bald one then... 8)
cant cover your space helmet have stuck loads of tele tubbies pic on there ;D ;D ;D
Wow...Thanks Dibs... >:( ;D ;)
thought i would look more friendly when we encouter aliens ;D ;D ;D
Or get me zapped with a ray gun... :P
i heard them martians on the moon love bold tele tubbie peeps ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Yellow Petals on January 08, 2006, 13:05:10
I don't know if you all know, but I recently discovered (am a bit sloooow) that there is an 'ignore member' feature (no, not an ignore member's feature....fnarr fnarr) in your profile preferences so if there is an A4A member or members whose posts are driving you up the wall or simply posting too much chit chat etc etc, stick them in the ignore list and voila! no more being faced with annoying posts when you come onto the board! I'm now using it and jolly glad that I am!
Could also help to diffuse heated situations and ...praps a number of you who PM'd me lately might now like to use it too?! (not against me though I might add .... beg.... ;D )
Hope this is of help to someone :)
Sam
Ooo, further investigations into my A4A settings revealed to me that I can a) be notified by pop up when I have a new message (I did get emails once upon a time) and b) store a copy of any sent message in my outbox by default and not have to remember to tick the little box each time.
Blimey, I am a bit of a ditz where these things are concerned! Both very handy little doodlies indeed.
I shall post this in the hope that nobody becomes offended by my wish to change the personal preferences of my message system ;)
I was about to bump this one but somebody (YP) got there first.
Quote from: redclanger on January 09, 2006, 18:07:22
I was about to bump this one but somebody (YP) got there first.
Well, you know me, I do like to share my useless bits of information with everybody.
Did you go speak to the council re the garlic fiasco?
Very sorry - but unable to offer compensation. Didn't want compensation - I wanted the tractor driver suspending by the ahems. ;D