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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: weedgrower on January 04, 2006, 20:47:34

Title: manuring potatoes
Post by: weedgrower on January 04, 2006, 20:47:34
need some advice please. i have read a couple of books on plotting now and they all say that you shouldn't put manure where you are going to grow potatoes. now the plotters down my plot all put trench with manure and seem to do ok. i tried trenching last year and had a bad crop. what do most people do
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: Melbourne12 on January 04, 2006, 20:58:41
I think that the advice is that you shouldn't use fresh manure.  I'd expect to put well-rotted manure or compost in a potato trench.

Quote from T&M website:

Potatoes grow best in rich soil containing plenty of well rotted manure or compost (do not use fresh compost to minimise keeled slug problems) and do not lime the soil to minimise scab blemishes on developing tubers.
Planting times are not critical and are dependent on weather, soil conditions and regional variations but below is a general guide. Use our specially blended, high potash Potato Fertiliser when planting.
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: Wicker on January 04, 2006, 21:19:12
We have great difficulty getting manure of any kind so now use other means.  For potatoes we use "Spuds Galore" from N A Kays - works very well for us.
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: philcooper on January 04, 2006, 21:45:58
Wicker,

What about compost?

Phil
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: powerspade on January 04, 2006, 22:30:39
Grow some comfrey, and then when you plant your spuds place tubers and top of compost made with comfrey, Comfrey is high in potash which helps root growth
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: philcooper on January 05, 2006, 09:00:28
Quote from: powerspade on January 04, 2006, 22:30:39
Grow some comfrey, and then when you plant your spuds place tubers and top of compost made with comfrey

Can someone tell my comfrey to produce leaves in time to be planted with the spuds?!?  ;)
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: terrace max on January 05, 2006, 09:11:49
I read that you don't want too much nitrogen available to your spuds or they get too watery and break up when you cook 'em. I can buy that sort at the shops!

Compost for me every time...
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: cleo on January 06, 2006, 18:51:59
I`m far too lazy to dig trenches,I just dib a hole in well fed soil from the last year.

But was is interesting is this lime thing-for years I followed that advice and then Mr Flowerdew(who is not thatcrazy suggested it was better to lime in certain conditions than not.

My soil is so free draining I have to water in the rain and liming last year made a small but noticeable difference in the crop without any increase in `scab`

It never gets easier ???
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: Debs on January 06, 2006, 19:12:43

To trench, or not to trench...

What method is best for potatoes ???

I grew potatoes last year but did not get a great harvest.

Will be doing a 'search' on this site, as I know someone (Tim perhaps?)

gave a good table of earlies, main etc..

Debs
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: grawrc on January 06, 2006, 22:28:08
I'd like to see that too.
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: supersprout on January 07, 2006, 10:29:41
Last year's potatoes grew under black plastic with a mulch of spent hops (as a clearing crop). They were nothing to boast about, the Mouse enjoyed a free larder, strangely only munched the bigger spuds.

This year I'll follow some of these ideas, especially:

supposed to mean bigger spuds
No black plastic (fallen out of love with it)
No watering (concern for the water table although my neighbours think nothing of sprinkling all afternoon  :o)



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Having read all these notes, might do a soil test for the first time and add lime if nesc. a couple of weeks before planting time.

If the spuds ain't happy with their lot, then it's off to the Farmers Market for me  ;D
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: supersprout on January 07, 2006, 10:36:19
Quote from: cleo on January 06, 2006, 18:51:59
My soil is so free draining I have to water in the rain

Spent hops will transform your free draining soil into a giant sponge cleo  ;D
You know where to find them! 8)
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: Badger1 on January 07, 2006, 14:30:51
I've always used well rotted manure without problems.
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: Wicker on January 07, 2006, 20:40:44
Sorry Phil, only just caught up with this thread - yes we do dig in compost - usually our own.
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: fbgrifter on January 09, 2006, 09:56:53
and don't lime before spuds as it encourages scab
Title: Re: manuring potatoes
Post by: growmore on January 09, 2006, 10:44:33
Hear hear ..Fresh lime and spuds dont mix ..Set them in plenty of muck..

Who says Mr Bob Flowerpot ain't barmy ?? :) :) :)  Jim