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Title: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 22, 2005, 20:58:32
I was discussing the stirrup Hoes mentioned by Sexy Snail this morning, and another type of hoe was mentioned that was considered extremely effective for weed removal.

This hoe was described as having a wire 'blade' which slices weeds with ease. I listened with fascination then raced into the workshop to see if I could turn my thoughts into real hardware.
An hour or so later, the following was my creation ...  The wire is laced onto screws and nuts fastened at the sides. I will be fitting a handle shortly.
I have no idea whether it has a particular name, but I hope to christen it over the holiday period ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Icyberjunkie on December 22, 2005, 21:36:03
I have to say that certainly looks like it should be effective!   YOu could be entering entrepreneurial (can never spell that!) territory...
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 22, 2005, 21:58:51
I doubt that Icy, I presume it has already been patented. The information was gleaned from someone who had used such a hoe at a horticultural college ... Anyway, my heart is only on making things now, as a labour of love, not for gain ... I will be making two of these, one for me, the other for a friend.

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: the_snail on December 23, 2005, 04:14:06
Well done. I have never used or seed a hoe like that before. I prosume it will be most effective. If the wire is strong then it should be ok on stoney ground.

Good work!  :)

The_Snail
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 23, 2005, 09:03:21
Yes, the proof is in using it, but as an engineer I am well used to carrying out objective evaluations ... I am pleased that this is my creation, alas the idea came from elsewhere ... however that is synergy so I should be pleased with that too ...

Derekthefox
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 24, 2005, 14:20:23
I have carried out preliminary trials, and determined that some adjustments are in order. I will need access to my workshop at work to carry these out, so the project is temporarily in abeyance ...

Derekthefox
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: adam04 on December 26, 2005, 16:40:05
to me, it looks like the wire would easily become fatigued from the movements and snap.

it would need a very strong metal, hmmm,  cheese wire stuff maybe??  again dont know how that owuld work on soil though.
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 26, 2005, 17:27:07
Yes Adam, the wire I use is stainless, which has a very high tensile strength. The design presumes that the wire WILL need to be replaced , just like strimmer blades.

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: adam04 on December 26, 2005, 17:36:43
ah yes.  good to hear then D  ;D

You could use heavy duty strimmer wire, thats some of the toughest stuff i seen.  you can get nylon stuff or proper wire.   i aint seen it snap yet, it jyst round off too much over time.
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 26, 2005, 19:01:35
That sounds good Adam, but I just happen to have a reel of this stainless wire, and I know it has a phenomenal breaking strain ... so it makes sense to use it.
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: daveandtara on December 27, 2005, 23:52:03
you know, the problem i have is that my hoe gets very quickly caked in heavy clay.
i wonder if wire hoe might prove more efficient?
derek, if you (or anyone else) ever uses one on clay please do let me know.
well done derek, it must be lovely to be able turn inspiration into usable tools so quickly! sadly i have niether the skills or the space!
Tara xx
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: purple sprouting on December 30, 2005, 22:28:47
Wow!!!

What a wonderful tool......................

Derek......haven't had time to visit my 'lottie' yet, but as my family is coming to the end of the 'christmas food' I would like to congratulate your wonderful invention that can double as a 'cheese wire' and 'melon slice'.

Well done!!!!

 
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on December 31, 2005, 01:34:18
Tara, once I get the thing working properly, I will take it up to the top plots, where they have some nasty red clay. I will see how it fares, and report back.  Watch this space ...

I was wondering purple, whether I could also use it to peel my veg before taking them home  ;D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: BAGGY on December 31, 2005, 18:54:05
Looks good.  Don't laugh at me coz I am not a techie like you  ...... but could you not use a hack saw blade type thingy in place of the wire ??  Would that do the biz ??  See, you've got me thinking now and that is highly dangerous.   ;D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: adam04 on December 31, 2005, 19:16:21
you can cut small trees down then aswell!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on January 01, 2006, 01:46:51
It all comes down to your own inventiveness Baggy, wire, or blade, who cares... if it hoes the ground !!!

I can dream Adam !!!
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: BAGGY on January 01, 2006, 13:10:59
I'm not in the slightest bit inventive (would love a cheese cutter hoe) but thought the blade would have less chance of stretching, albeit mor echance of breaking ?
Has it had it's maiden voyage yet ?
Title: Re: Another type of Hoe ...
Post by: Derekthefox on January 01, 2006, 15:10:54
Hacksaw blades are extremely brittle, so yes are prone to breaking ...

I tried the prototype version 1 before Christmas, and determined some detailed changes are necessary. I can do these in my workshop when I get back to work on Tuesday.