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QuoteOld Folk Lore: "Plant garlic on the shortest day and it will be ready on the longest"  busy_lizzie .

Would anyone like to share with us any Folk Lore saying that they know of? 

I know there on some folk on here that could impart a wealth of information  ;D

I'm sure we had a similar thread ages ago.  I think it got me into trouble  :-[

Ok I'll try another ...


If you've got wind - buy a kite! 

Oh Wardy  ;D 

I wasn't thinking along those lines!!  But it's sound advice!!   ;)

Don't tell me I've got the wrong end of the stick again!  :-[

Thought long and hard about this and still come up with nothing.

What about this ?

Marry in haste - repent at leisure  ;D

Was thinking more along the lines of :-

"put chunk of rhubarb in hole for cabbage before planting to inhibit club root"  ;)

My personal favourite:

A woman, a dog and a walnut tree
The more you beat them
The better they be

;D    ;D    ;D   

 ::) :P

Ash before the oak, the summer's all a soak.
Oak before the ash, the summer's but a splash.

Hey Guys,  I was thinking along the lines of :-

;D ;D ;D

Traditional names for the various moons through the year...

January:  Wolf Moon 
February:  Ice or Snow Moon
March:  Storm or Worm Moon 
April:  Growing or Pink Moon 
May:  Hare or Flower Moon 
June:  Mead or Strawberry Moon 
July:  Hay or Buck Moon   
August:  Corn or Sturgeon Moon
September:  Harvest Moon 
October:  Blood or Hunter's Moon 
November:  Snow or Beaver Moon 
December:  Cold Moon 

Derekthefox :D

Well it doesn't rhyme, but my lil ol man says always bung a rabbit carcase into the planting hole of a Rhodie or Azalea......  :-X
And Wardy, brilliant advise..... ::) ;)

Well mines kind of a gardening tip, knowing if it will be a dry or wet summer :-\

Lottie  Your old man is clearly barmy and should be locked up  ;D

Here's one:

"He who plants a Rhodedendrum, should be red hot pokered up the bum"

That one rhymes - sorry to your old man Lottie buit we do really have too many of them already.

Never put a frog in a bucket.... ;D ;D ;D
And yes, Wards, completely barmy!! Though he has told me how to catch a bunny on the plot, apparently, you start walking in ever decreasing circles around the bunny as it's munching your cabbage,  starting a fair distance away, and apparently cos of their poor depth perception, you can end up right next to them, pick  'em up by ears and give them a firm teling off!! Of course, if you start the circle too big, the bunny will probaby have got bored and left....... ;D
And Ady, you can never have enough lil ol men.....honestly, bit harsh of you I feel... ;)

I found if I was less harsh, I couldn't get it to rhyme  ;D

Well there are several "um" words Ady....drum.....erm....well.....er..... there's definitely drum........ ::)

One showing is worth a thousand sayings  :)

Many a good c ock came out of a tattered bag....

Ah, but Rhodedendrum ends with the word drum and I was looking for something more than an exact rhyme  ;D

PS use this a lot to prepare lessons:
http://www.rhymezone.com/

1 syllable:
bluhm, brum, brumm, bum, chum, clum, come, crum, crumb, crumm, cum, drumm, dum, dumb, dumm, from, frum, glum, grum, gum, gumm, hum, humm, klumb, krum, krumm, krumme, kumm, lum, lumb, lumm, maam, mum, mumm, mumme, numb, pflum, plum, plumb, rum, schrum, schum, schumm, scum, shrum, shum, slum, some, strum, stum, stumm, sum, swum, thum, thumb, thumm, um, umm, yum

2 syllables:
alum, ancrum, baucum, bay rum, beach plum, become, black gum, blue gum, boyum, date from, date plum, exum, flow from, ghost gum, goose plum, green thumb, hog plum, how come, keep from, keep mum, mccrum, mccrumb, narum, pond scum, red gum, rose gum, sharum, shrink from, snow gum, succumb, swamp gum, sweet gum, tom thumb, wild plum, wring from

3 syllables:
abstain from, august plum, bubble gum, cherry plum, chewing gum, cider gum, cocoa plum, coco plum, common plum, congo gum, damson plum, desist from, direct sum, escape from, flooded gum, manna gum, mesquite gum, moxie plum, natal plum, refrain from, river gum, rule of thumb, sour gum, spirit gum, spotted gum, tidy sum, time to come, vector sum, water gum

4 syllables:
canada plum, carissa plum, chickasaw plum, forest red gum, governor's plum, governor plum, jamaica rum, japanese plum, marmalade plum, mountain swamp gum, pacific plum, peppermint gum, principal sum, river red gum, senegal gum, shy away from, sierra plum, sonora gum, stay away from

5 syllables:
alleghany plum, allegheny plum, eucalyptus gum, madagascar plum, whatever may come

6 syllables:
american red plum, american sweet gum

OMG!! Those poor, poor children!! ;D ;D ;D ;) Actually have book marked.......
And Max, a what in a bag? ??? And really! :o  Well, you learn something every day.... ;D

This thread is definitely deteriorating!

Confucius he say:-

" support bacteria - the only culture some people have"

;D ;D ;D

1. Sow seed with a waxing, never a waning moon
2. Incorporate scrapings of topsoil from below pines and spruces when planting, and then mulch with pine and spruce needles, crushed fir cones and even twigs to improve the strawberries’ flavour
3. Plant marigolds in the flower and vegetable garden and greenhouse
4. Grow foxgloves in your garden to stimulate growth and disease resistance among your other plants5. A single clove of garlic planted beside a rose will keep greenfly away from the plant
6. Bananas planted under roses will ensure strong, healthy plants
7. Pour left over tea into your houseplants
8. The liquid run-off from compost heaps, known as ‘compost tea’ helps keep plants healthy

Have I redeemed myself??

Not really sure about how folk lorey some of these are but they are on the RHS site as floklore.

flocklore... ??? bout sheep? Mmmm am intrigued yet again! ;D ;)

 Rhododendron surely  ;D or were you just straining for a rhyme?

Hate them that much   :-[???

Clang   I do all those things on your list cept spruce and pine.  All this just   means I'm gullible  :)

Isn't there one about sitting on cold earth with you big bare bum and it not freezing yor cheeks off, is when it is okay to start planting??   ;D

I've heard that one EJ, never tried it myself though and don't plan to either! ;D

"when your joints all start to ache, rainy weather is at stake"

Never put a worm on your head.....

QuoteWell it doesn't rhyme, but my lil ol man says always bung a rabbit carcase into the planting hole of a Rhodie or Azalea......  

~ if you don't have a carcass handy & want to make your soil more acidic you can water them with dilute vinegar-4tbsp of vinegar into a pint of water-once a month durning the growing season or you can add coffee grounds to the soil to make it more acidic

QuoteNever put a worm on your head.....

Heh heh...pardon  ??? :)

Quote from: GREENWIZARD on December 17, 2005, 15:55:34

QuoteWell it doesn't rhyme, but my lil ol man says always bung a rabbit carcase into the planting hole of a Rhodie or Azalea...... 

~ if you don't have a carcass handy & want to make your soil more acidic you can water them with dilute vinegar-4tbsp of vinegar into a pint of water-once a month durning the growing season or you can add coffee grounds to the soil to make it more acidic

If you do not have a carcass or vinegar, then paraquot should do the trick  ;D

If you want your hydrangea to turn blue, bung a handful of rusty nails into the bottom of the planting hole.

Or will that make it pink...........
no blue, I'm sure blue............



Oh, and lottie, never put a slug in your sock!

Ooo yes EJ!! How could I have forgotten that!! Right, think these are the main 3 from East Anglia

Never put  a frog in a bucket
Never put a worm on your head
Never put a slug in your sock

And of course, never put a ferret in a in a teapot.....

And Max, it's not hard, don't put a worm on your head..... ::) ::) ::) ;)

...Heh heh...but why not?  ??? :)

Well.... you go and put a worm on your head and see what happens.....and don't say I didn't warn you... :o  and if you do, make sure you're wearing gloves and wellies..... :'(   There's just no telling some people.... ::)

I probably have a large array of invertebrates living in my hair. Never did me any harm. So what you on about?

Max, worms live in the soil..... ::) so they're not going to be happy living on your head are they......!!!! Though from what you've said about the visitors in your hair at the min.....I may well have to rethink this cunning Suffolk saying.... :-X

My hair is like a Jain temple. No living thing is made to feel unwelcome there...

So the woodlice were intended then...... ??? sorry, didn't like to ask.. ;)

Why can't I put a worm on my head?

I don't Know!!!!!
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They are simple folk in Suffolk Max, don't read too much into it - they really do need to be told not to put a worm on their heads or they would all be doing it - and carrying frogs around in buckets etc.

I'm glad you understand, Ady, cos we're so busy doing Suffolk clog dances.....and pig plaiting.........we really do need these things pointed out....

You guys are funny  ;D

Why can't I put a worm on my head?

Because when they fall off and get trodden on it makes an awful mess.
This is a problem at all large gatherings and can be witnessed in the North Stand at Portman Road at the height of worm season.

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Max, you put as many worms as you like on your head....I'm sure it is just a myth anyway....really..... in fact, I will send you your own bucket of frogs and enough worms for a whole head.... you go ahead and enjoy yourself.. ::) Anyway, if I told you then I'd have to silence you, is Suffolk Law

Ady, is ok cos everyone lets their frogs go, and they clean up the worm mess....anyway, it distracts from the awful football...

QuoteAnd of course, never put a ferret in a in a teapot..... Posted by: undercarriage plan

Might I enquire why this should be so?  Would it upset the dormouse?

Flowerlady   I knew as soon as this thread started what would happen. I was right!  ;D ;D

I know Wardy!  But they've had a lot of fun  ;D ;D ;D

Nevertheless I am sure there is a whole stack of valuable info out there ...

if ONLY they'd come to the party!   ;)

take care
FL

Flowerlady, what on earth would a doormouse be doing in a teapot??  ::) ::) ::)  ;D Goodness sake.....See, you wouldn't listen, now take that worm off your head...

Why can't she have a worm on her head?

Because Alice wouldn't like it !  ::)

Alice may love a worm on her head....have you asked her..... ::)

Yes,  she said worms should sit on magic mushrooms, and that she just wanted to know how to make her garden grow!

OK, OK...I'll behave..... ::) ;) My neighbour always hurls her old tea onto her Camellia bush, she hasn't a clue why she's doing it, purely cos her gran did, and I have to say, I've never seen one with sooo many blooms on it....though her aim is pretty poorly..... and it's probably more to do with the fact that she has lovely soil, and lots of.....WORMS!! ;D ;D ;D

And just for you, Flowerlady..... :-*
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/homeandgarden/3682004.htm

http://www.gardendigest.com/sxlore.htm

&
a yorkshire lass

http://www.annesgarden.co.uk/

Heard this yesterday

Red sky at night,
Buncefield's alight.

Presumeably goes with

Red sky in the morning
3 minute warning.

I heard the follow up to that one was 'Red sky in the morning, Hemels still burning'.  It was on the News Quiz.

You guys are a real scream ...

Derekthefox :D

Bless !!   ;D ;D ;D

LoL  :-*

Can I come out of the cupboard ... ;D ;D ;D

A worm in the hand is worth 3 in the   head...

Bubbles from around yer feet will keep bugs off Yer beet...
   
Him down there says we are barmy  ..   Jim



                                 

Unless you have a big head, then it may be 4, but it's still undecided....and is that true about bubbles? Cos Aiken will have noooo probs with his beet then... ;D ;D ;D

Been away for a while whats all this worm talk.
Chris

They've been on the Tequila (Mezcal?)

Erm....ask Max, nothing to do with me, no idea what they on about..... :-X

u-c-p I hope you remembered your fur coat in the cupboard!

QuoteUnless you have a big head, then it may be 4, but it's still undecided....

Alice says she can get AT LEAST 4 worms on a magic mushroom, but she's not going to try 'cos she's having a very happy time reading up on Folk Lore   ;D

This is what happens trying to manage  four  ::)
Who mentioned tequila ;D

 ;D ;D ;D wish I could drink the stuff, but it just gets up me nose and I sneeze! Ooo there's a worm in there too, isn't there? Why is there a worm in there? ???

Yup that seems about right growmore, the stuff I drink is worm free I hope.

Derekthefox :D

The worm is supposed to have psychedelic properties as it feeds exclusively on peyote cactus which the native Americans injest to transcend to a higher plane.  Being a veggie, I cannot attest to whether this is true or not as I have never had the drink.

Well I certainly have visited some weird places after drinking tequila ...

Derekthefox :D

   I have had the drink ....have ate the worm....and the only propertys it
   has....is making you wanna puke ::) :o :o :o I lost a bet and had to do
   it.!!!!!!! never again....I have a bet running at the moment with a friend
  my forfiet....which it looks like am gonna have to do is have a 14 ft boa
  round my neck....am just hoping the bugger gets fed first !!!! :o :o :o


                                        JAGS

Ooooo am so hoping boa fed and you lose Jags!! What a pic! And Flowerlady, if I'd found the fur coat, well....would have donned, shot meself in the foot with an arrow and hobbled back to A4A for TLC.... ;D And still I ask, why the worm in tequilla? Why not just eat the worm if it's supposed to do that....am I missing something?  ???

What about this one:

"The strawberry grows underneath the nettle
And wholesome berries thrive and ripen best
Neighbour'd by fruit of baser quality."

Weird huh?

Worm in tequila? There isn't one actually ...

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a990702b.html

Hope this clears up any confusion, now I can get back to my drinking ...  ;)

Derekthefox :D

Ne'er cast a clout before May is out!

And; Don't peg worms on the line to dry
(no, I made that bit up)

A clout...mmm.... strange word that one, I don't think I've ever worn a clout? Or have I and never knew?  ???
You'd need teeny weeny pegs wouldn't you....and wouldn't they go crispy? The worms, not the pegs... ::) Ooo then you could put them in the tequilla!! Ah see, I knew I'd get there......

It basically means don't do anything in the garden until May has gone as the weather is so unpredictable until then.  I think clout probably refers to clout nails as in making sheds etc.  It's an old Lancashire saying.
My cousin used to peg worms when he was very small but I wouldn't advise it! ;D

If it looks nice out...
Leave it out.    ;D

Noddy.

One of my favourite 20th century 'folklore' sayings, sadly American in origin:

- If it ain't broke, then don't fix it ...

Derekthefox :D

My eldest daughter once pulled a worm til it snapped in half :o

don't know if this counts but anyway - chives like fresh coffee grinds :)

Share a folk lore saying:
Money is like manure,  it's not worth anything unless you spread it around.... ;D

And..

A hedge between keeps friendship green...

..........not if it's a leylandii :)

One years weed, seven years seed. I think that is correct. It could be the other way around.

Why would you put a slug in ya sock  ??? ??? ???

hmmmmm

The_Snail

No you have that saying correct Snail, implying the seed is active for seven years ...

Derekthefox :D

Teachers drinking in the pub, passing round the ready rub.

There that one might not be about gardening but at least it is decent - sorry everybody.  Too much to drink last night.

It's alright it's not New Year yet so I can keep doing dodgy posts when I get home from the pub.

Just got in then RC ?  Bit worse for wear ?  Me too.

Show me the way to go home.....


;D

Have a good holiday Baggy.