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Title: Lazy beds
Post by: deboydoyd on December 05, 2005, 18:09:53
Has anybody used lazy beds before. We are thinking of using them next year for  potatoes in our new allotment that has not been used for a few years. I would be interested if you have used them and if it was successful
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: sid on December 05, 2005, 18:16:03
sorry never used one dont know wat one is lol u can tell me lol
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: sandersj89 on December 05, 2005, 18:25:41
Quote from: deboydoyd on December 05, 2005, 18:09:53
Has anybody used lazy beds before. We are thinking of using them next year for  potatoes in our new allotment that has not been used for a few years. I would be interested if you have used them and if it was successful

Wardy is the person to talk to, she uses this system with some good results.

Jerry
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: deboydoyd on December 05, 2005, 19:02:35
Apparently you take a 6 foot strip of uncultivated land, put a 2 foot strip of compost down the middle, put the spuds on top, then slice sections of the outside strips and tip them over on the top of the spuds so the uncultivated stuff is on top of them and soil is exposed. What a terrible description.
The spuds grow and apparently the roots break everything up, and you get a crop as well. When the potatoes are harvested it breaks it up more, and hey presto cultivated land.
Sounds good. Does it work?
Found some info through 'google' but wanted some opinions too.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: ellkebe on December 05, 2005, 19:50:58
I'm all for doing it the lazy way Deboydoyd but I have a feeling my couch grass would think I'd gone soft and was supplying it with lots of lovely compost  ;D  Or am I reading it all wrong?
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: adam04 on December 05, 2005, 20:39:32
someone on here, and i cant think who has a website and they have a thing about lazy beds.

http://www.keirg.freeserve.co.uk/diary/default.html
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: redimp on December 05, 2005, 20:58:07
That'll be the rarely sighted Gavin.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: adam04 on December 05, 2005, 21:59:03
ahhh, thats the one!!  thanks RC.

Noticed you over on the Beeb the other day!
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: redimp on December 05, 2005, 22:45:04
Yeah - it was a bit quiet on here  ;D
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: delboy on December 05, 2005, 22:49:48
dsfdgsfdg
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: delboy on December 05, 2005, 22:51:32
that wasn't what I posted!

I put in three paras about being Ok with giving it a try, but still being doubtful about laughing bindweed and marestail, my little friends..

and the gremlins post gobbledegook.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: Derekthefox on December 06, 2005, 12:14:11
I think you have spotted a flaw in the method, ellkebe ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: dandelion on December 06, 2005, 14:03:03
I'm going to try lazybeds on my new allotment. I'm going to try potatoes and squash (packet of mixed seeds from Seeds of Italy /should be fun!)
I've got couch grass too, but thought I'd cover the lazybeds with weed suppressant fabric. Next year I'll re-use the fabric for the paths and cover it with bark.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: deboydoyd on December 06, 2005, 18:26:24
Thanks Adam04 for the link, really precise instructions, I've printed it off and will give it a try.
Good website to read too.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: loopylizzie on December 11, 2005, 17:29:19
I tried lazy beds on my plot when I first took it on after reading an article in Kitchen garden magazine but I found that couch grass will grow straight through potatoes. I didnt realise what a pest that weed would be. I might have done better if I had used card or thickly laid newspaper over the top. You live and learn but my advice would be lazy beds and couch grass for a potato crop are not a good combination. Sorry
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: Derekthefox on December 11, 2005, 19:11:22
I think I have to agree with loopylizzie ... raised beds yes, because the soil can be riddled and cleaned, but the premise of a lazy bed is essentially just that, all the effort of preparing beds is minimised. Couch pays no attention to this of course, it will just keep on growing, and takes an enormous amount of dissuading from flexing its muscles ...  ;D Fortunately, if lazy beds are the only option, then you may still some sort of crop, and the couch can be removed later ...

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: boris on December 11, 2005, 19:54:34
Had a 3 hour tussle with the evil couch this morning. Show no mercy. Kill it on sight.  If you give it an inch it will destroy you and your will to garden.


Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: wardy on December 11, 2005, 22:49:21
I don't know how many times I have to say this!  All of you digging for victory out there are bringing your couch problems on yourselves. there must be only me on A4a that has no probs with couch and there's only me not digging.  Deduce from that what you will.  But you'll all keep on digging.  Lemmings  ;D
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: Derekthefox on December 12, 2005, 08:34:49
I can just visualise your smug grin Wardy !!!

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: deboydoyd on December 12, 2005, 18:40:05
Have I opened a can of worms ? Pardon the pun. My plot is solid couch grass, so am unsure what to do. perhaps i could conduct an experiment, one bed dug, one not.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on December 12, 2005, 20:46:14
I no longer have significant problems with couch after digging it out, but with hindsight I think Hercules probably had the easier job.
Title: Re: Lazy beds
Post by: amphibian on December 17, 2005, 10:19:33
Quote from: deboydoyd on December 12, 2005, 18:40:05
Have I opened a can of worms ? Pardon the pun. My plot is solid couch grass, so am unsure what to do. perhaps i could conduct an experiment, one bed dug, one not.

I wouldn't use this method if you have couch, my opinion is that the only way to deal with this evil is to dig it out. I use a fork rather than a spade, as it doesn't cut the rhizomes and they are far easier to pull out when they are a foot long.

It is very slow work, but I figure it is best to get right on top of it from the start. I have stripped my whole plot bare so that there are no grass paths from which it can respread.