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Produce => Wildlife forum => Topic started by: Carol on November 16, 2005, 20:26:03

Title: Eagle Owl
Post by: Carol on November 16, 2005, 20:26:03
I am watching a t.v. programme about the Eagle Owl which is now breeding in Yorkshire.  Apparently they found a pair of Eagle Owls had been breeding there since 1997 and have produced 20 young.  These are magnificent birds with a huge wingspan of about 1 metre.  Good luck to them and hope they continue to breed here and spread throughout the country but someone will be objecting.  It has not been established whether the birds take lambs.  They eat rabbits, hares and foxes. 
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Debs on November 16, 2005, 22:02:27
They are beautiful looking birds.

An eagle owl was seen in Newcastle city centre a few years ago, and landed on a nearby

wall where I worked - we were all treated to a close up view.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: redimp on November 16, 2005, 22:14:17
Not entirely convinced that they ever really were here before so unlike the reintroduction of bustards, beavers and wolves I am not sure I really want them here.  Not bothered about the lambs but they will also take our own native raptors and will consume our wildlife at an alarming rate.  May have to put them on the same list as the grey squirrel and the mink.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: RSJK on November 17, 2005, 08:38:49
Let them be thats what I say, what a beautiful bird and after watching the programme last night I think that there are plenty of rabbits for them to feed on in this country, they did not seem to bothered about getting the lambs to me.  Wonder if they could pick up a taste for wood pigeons?

Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Aussie Chick on November 17, 2005, 08:41:35
I think it will be one species to keep an eye on. For the beauty of it and the amount of damage, if any to the other animals.  :)

Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: RSJK on November 17, 2005, 09:05:50
Had to smile to myself last night when it said that they did not know if it was allowed to live in this country as it had not been a native of this country for 200 years,  Made me think of illegal immigrants for some reason.  Can we not get the Social to help them out with there nesting costs etc.

                                          ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Heldi on November 17, 2005, 12:11:16
What if they take grey squirrel and mink Redclanger ??!!  :)
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Glyn on November 17, 2005, 12:24:07
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                                 EAGLE OWL
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Carol on November 17, 2005, 13:37:43
I am in agreement that the Eagle Owl should be allowed to stay (who will stop them).   Well they could all get shot I suppose.  They seemed perfectly happy rearing their young on rabbits and as Richard said they were not too keen on even looking at the lambs.  I would be delighted if a pair of them nested up this way and took away the many thousands of wood pigeons and rabbits.

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Heldi on November 17, 2005, 14:09:31
I'm with you Carol. I'd love to see them up here. Wardy spied one in Seahouses when she was on her hols. I wondered last night if it was one of the twenty that the pair in North Yorks. had bred?   
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 17, 2005, 20:53:29
I doubt whether they'll do much harm; these things are right at the top of the foodchain so the population density will be too low for mass extermination.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Carol on November 17, 2005, 21:24:54
 ;D ;D

According to the BBC programme.  I think the main worry with the Eagle Owl was the Cats it may take.  folks pets!!!
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: redimp on November 17, 2005, 21:43:28
Quote from: Richard Kinson on November 17, 2005, 09:05:50
Had to smile to myself last night when it said that they did not know if it was allowed to live in this country as it had not been a native of this country for 200 years,  Made me think of illegal immigrants for some reason.  Can we not get the Social to help them out with there nesting costs etc.

                                          ;D  ;D
Having said what I said above - I am very positive about all human immigration.  Can't be any worse than the rest of us.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Heldi on November 18, 2005, 12:45:16
Carol I personally could accept the possibility of my cat getting taken by a predator more than I ever could if he was run over or died of cancer.  Obviously I'd prefer it if he lived a long happy life and died of old age.  :)
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 18, 2005, 20:26:06
They'll eat anything from beetles and worms up to deer fawns, so I can well imagine them having the odd cat. They'd probably keep away from built-up areas in the main, so I wouldn't expect many pets to be killed.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Val on November 19, 2005, 09:25:03
Quote from: Richard Kinson on November 17, 2005, 09:05:50
Had to smile to myself last night when it said that they did not know if it was allowed to live in this country as it had not been a native of this country for 200 years,  Made me think of illegal immigrants for some reason.  Can we not get the Social to help them out with there nesting costs etc.

                                          ;D  ;D




Oh well said Richard ;D ;D..the program was really good, wish they'd make more like this, what a beautiful creature, a bit scary, not one I'd like to bump into on a dark night but magnificent.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Heldi on November 20, 2005, 20:51:03
Been thinking about all this.

My OH said what if a pair Eagle Owls moved into the quarry which is a handful of miles away from us. Would I be happy about our cat then? Well I'd never know if he'd been taken would I? He'd just disappear...had that happen twice before with cats. Also I reckon it was a whole load of what ifs. Especially as between my nearest quarry and us there must be thousands of rabbits.

Then Robert mentioning that they take deer fawns. Surely that is more acceptable than the cull they've been talking about on the news?  Eight thousand deer in the Highlands.  Do the deer do so well because they don't have a natural predator?  Only man, who probably picks out the best trophies with his gun.

I am tending to think there is room for the Eagle Owls.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: RSJK on November 21, 2005, 07:53:47
I agree with everything you have said there Heldi.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: BAGGY on November 21, 2005, 17:12:57
I have held an eagle owl.  The owl man came and gave a talk at cubs.  For some reason I thought they would be light.  It was like holding an oven ready chicken in your outstretched hand.  Really heavy.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 22, 2005, 07:35:12
What they need in Scotland is wolves. They'll hunt red deer quite happily.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Heldi on November 22, 2005, 09:36:50
Hi Robert!

I thought there were talks about doing that...reintroducing wolves? Wonder if it will ever happen?
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: eileen on November 22, 2005, 16:36:54
Actually it already HAS happened. A small packof wolves have been released in a secret location here in Scotland.

As to the Eagle Owls spreading naturally up this way - why not!!! They seldom take anything bigger than rabbits and we certainly have plenty of those around haven't we?

Now I'm not quite so keen on the fact that some idiot released a few hand-reared birds within towns and cities recently. The only food source readily available to them were small dogs and cats. Thankfully they seem to have moved out into the countryside under their own volition now - either that or they have perished  - as none of them have been spotted in a while.


Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 22, 2005, 18:43:43
Hand reared birds would be at risk as they'd be too friendly with people. Are you serious about the wolves? I was up in the Highlands climbing a lot in the 70's, and the overgrazing I saw was massive. They'd be a really good thing.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: eileen on November 22, 2005, 23:49:25
Yes perfectly serious Robert but I can't divulge where for obvious reasons. Only a small pack but everyone's hoping they survive the winter ok and that the Alpha male and female go on to breed next year. They're well away from even the romotest human habitation and should help to keep the deer herds and rabbits down a bit. No further plans to release any more in the near future.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on November 23, 2005, 20:33:47
I could guess. The number of really remote areas is a bit limited, and it would have to be as remote as possible to avoid any possible panic about mad wolves eating the local population.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: Carol on December 14, 2005, 20:06:49
 :D

On the BBC Scotland news programme tonight it was reported that an Eagle Owl is currently roosting in a tree in the centre of Inverness.  Hope there are plenty rabbits around.
Title: Re: Eagle Owl
Post by: blight on December 17, 2005, 23:06:51
the eagle owl used to be a native bird in britain, which seems obvious considering the fact  that ist´s not a major task for any bird to cross the channel.
but like other big birds  it has been eradicated by man. have the storks returned by the way, as they have to most parts of western europe?