Hello all just a couple of pictures of my new toy my father got me last week, thats him in the pictures showing me how its done. It would have took me about 2 months to dig that allotment with a spade, so it as saved me no end of time.
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What a lovely machine, I would have to build a new gate to get that onto my plot. Would be worth it though, mine takes me all winter to dig ...
Derekthefox :D
Wow, looks fab. :D
When I see people on the site rotovating it looks like such a struggle. Is it really difficult to do? It looks like harder work than digging!
It's almost as hard but 100 times faster so less backache 8)
I once hired a rotovator, I picked it up from the supplier and single handedly put in into my estate car. I drove to the lotty and spent most of the day using this mad machine to dig the lotty over. The machine had 2 reverse gears - which came in useful to get it out of holes that it dug itself into.
When you use a rotovator you generally get your feet buried as you walk behind it (did I say walk - I mean "get dragged"). If the plot is rather overgrown (and mine was) then there are clumps of grass growing - never try to rotovate a clump of grass - what happens is that the blades engage the clump and drive in into the ground, instantly forming a barrier to the blade. Consequently the whole machine leaps out of the ground and lands on the hard surface just in front of where you have been digging.
Several things happen now.
First, because the throttle is wide open, in order to keep the machine running whilst digging, the engine speeds up.
Second, because the machine is now on top of quite hard (undug) soil it doesn't dig in - it runs (rather quickly) across the surface.
And finally, because your feet are buried and you forget to release the clutch (but still hang onto the handle-bars) you get stretched until the machine tears itself clear of your grasp - and instantly stops.
This was repeated a couple of times, other times it met a decidedly soft bit and immediatedly burried itself - thank goodness for reverse gears!
Well, I did manage to get the whole plot dug - then I had to pick the machine up and pop it into the back of the car. Easier said than done (well by me at least) I had no strength left whatsoever and could not get the machine into the car. Had to enlist the help of some ancient gardeners.
Two weeks later there were as many weeds as before - except that now they were greener and growing much quicker!
I relate this story to warn would-be rotovator victims. They are great machines and achieve far more than a spade - but beware they have a cost.
-- Slightly Taller.
-- Marginally Wiser.
LOL Bionic wellies ;D ;D I have some great images of you in my mind now.
Think I will stick to my spade and elbow grease!
The council rotivate the plots first time round when you sign up, and it has not done us that much good, other than breaking the earth up a bit and reducing the fear factor for the first month or so! The weeds are back with avengence already.
i own my oy own. Keep itat the lottie.
i love them, yes theres the problems of weeds but i mnaged to claer a big area with a rotavtor and level it and get eveything done witin a weekend, would have taken about two months to dig!!
Also great in winter, you just run u and down it shoves the soil to the sides and then the soil is in furrows which apparantly are better for the soil over the winter...dunno the truth but im going to do it.
also found that pulling them machines stop all the walking in cultivated soil.
Richard - a thing to behold - the best. For those with the room to store it! And the strength.
Wellies - what a great description!
Its a great machine Tim, think they call them a two wheeled tractor nowdays, had no problems with it jumping out of the ground at all, that allotment had not been dug for three years and despite the look of it the ground was very hard but it handled it great.
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Once you get the knack it's easy (ish)
Lol BW, great imagery! ;D
Richard, reply to an old post I know, but I'm thinking of getting a two-wheeled tractor too. Do you still use yours? What make and model are you using in the pics, and would you recommend it?
I'm attracted to the two-wheeled tractor for its small turning circle at the end of rows - did you find this yourself? The range of attachments for the machines are great (including rotavator, plough, tiller, mower - have you used any?
A lot of questions I know, but any real-user info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bionic Wellies i haven't laughed this hard in a while you should write books you're ace at describing scenarios.
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Beware of using rotovators and ploughs, they cause 'panning'. Farmers use deep - tined cultivators to break them up. what will the gardener use?? ;)
Yep!! Bionic Wellies has definately used a rotorvator. Dangerous as all hell if you're not careful but a real timesaver for a big plot.
getting over flu and feeling a bit low, this has definately cheered me up - "Wellies'" description is classic. ;D
Tony got one but he will only use it to fold the muck in or to go over already weeded ground. I can't manage the thing it runs away with me. I would probably end up being taken to the other side of the allotment site. Turning them is really hard for me
Agreed bionics wellies you certainly have the gift of the gab !! wonderfuly funny and so true :)
Adam04 i did not realise you were a pilot :)
I am hoping to get a mantiz tiller at the end of the year to use on my raised beds as i cant dig them over myself any more.
PG it is an Honda 610, I think it is about 6.5hp the plough on it is fantastic and the rotavator blades, it did take about 4 or 5 attempts to get the handling of it right but once you do it is ok.
Tony The tined cultivators farmers use are mainly used only where the tractor as been running through the crops to spray etc to brake the compacted ground underneath them.
Richard, I am currently studying horticulture at degree level, at http://www.easton-college.ac.uk/
soil compaction has many causes, here is a small pdf which explains it well, pages 4 and 5
http://www.agf.gov.bc.ca/resmgmt/publist/600series/613100-1.pdf are particularly of interest in this instance, ;)
Richard
What an amazing time saver for you - there's your poor old dad doing the digging with the obviously hugely heavy machine whilst you stand around taking pictures!! I wish I had a dad as useful and generous as yours!!!
Cambourne 7, why are you going to buy a mantis tiller for your raised beds? Surely the thing with raised beds is that as you don't walk on them, the soil is not compacted and the digging/rotovating actually damages the good work of the worms and micro organisms do in breaking down the soil and creating a proper texture?
Old Bird
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Quote from: Old bird on January 23, 2009, 11:38:46
Cambourne 7, why are you going to buy a mantis tiller for your raised beds? Surely the thing with raised beds is that as you don't walk on them, the soil is not compacted and the digging/rotovating actually damages the good work of the worms and micro organisms do in breaking down the soil and creating a proper texture?
Old Bird
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Well put, Old Bird!! ;) ;D ;D
[PG it is an Honda 610, I think it is about 6.5hp the plough on it is fantastic and the rotavator blades...]
Thanks for your reply Richard. I take it then that you are a fan of two-wheelers!
Did you finish ploughing the entire cleared allotment area we can see if you pictures? How long did it take you with the two-wheeled tractor?