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Title: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: busy_lizzie on September 04, 2005, 16:17:29
Anyone seen any of these around lately.  I haven't seen our Swifts for a least two weeks.  They usually make their journey back to Africa late September and as we still have roasting hot days here, don't know why they would start this early.  Do they know something we don't?  ??? busy_lizzie
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Val on September 04, 2005, 17:03:13
We don't seem to get many here, in fact I can't say when I last saw one, a few years ago.Although it does seem a bit early for them to be leaving, has anyone else noticed them going?..We haven't had the brent geese arrive here yet so when I see them, then its truly autumn and winter close behind.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: redimp on September 04, 2005, 17:07:23
Swifts appear to have disappeared from around Lincoln as well.  We do still have Swallows down by the river - at least we did last time I looked and the Martins are still about.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Carol on September 04, 2005, 19:30:58
The Swifts leave these mortal shores much earlier than the Swallows and House Martins.  I am sure I will be corrected unless I look up a Book, but they go away late July early August.  The Swallows and House Martins are still swooping about here as well.  Two years ago the swallows nesting at my house were still feeding their young at this time of the year.  I was getting quite anxious about the little things but then they all left late September.

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Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: redimp on September 04, 2005, 19:34:21
Pretty sure you are correct.  Martins are the last to leave and they were late leaving round here last year as well - went through much the same emotions.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on September 04, 2005, 20:58:07
We've had swifts in my mother's house as long as...at least 30 years. They leave mid-August.
Swallows and housemartins are still here, but they've started congregating on the lines now in a morning...expect the swallows to leave maybe next week and the housemartins the week after..the other year though I was driving near Bristol mid-november and saw a swallow...couldn't believe my eyes!

As far as I'm concerned, these three birds are the true test of the seasons, and when I see a swift, it has to be summer! Love 'em.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 04, 2005, 21:35:30
They've been around here as usual over the summer, My bird book doesn't give dates for its migration, but it's pretty early.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: dotCompost on September 04, 2005, 22:35:31
This is a good site, but doesn't say when they leave...

http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Twospot Ladybird on September 05, 2005, 08:57:11
My book says 'Summer visitor (mostly May to August)' so I guess they've gone. RSPB site says April to August.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: dotCompost on September 05, 2005, 20:48:17
found out a bit more about the swift. This site says
QuoteLondon's birds are on their way in early August, with the last leaving by the middle of the month.

http://website.lineone.net/~edwardmayer/Where%20Swifts%20Fly.htm
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: busy_lizzie on September 06, 2005, 00:01:35
Thanks very much to you all for your input.  It probably was time for them to go, but I haven't seen them circling which is the usual indicator they are on their way.  I will miss them in the evenings, ducking and diving across the sky making their funny chirpy noises.  I usually get the chance to lie on our garden lounger in the evening and watch them, accompanied by Classic FM, but this year haven't seem to have had the opportunity.  Thanks very much dotCompost for your hyperlinks, really interesting.  :) busy_lizzie
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: dotCompost on September 06, 2005, 11:12:18
Quote from: busy_lizzie on September 06, 2005, 00:01:35Thanks very much dotCompost for your hyperlinks, really interesting.  :) busy_lizzie
You're Welcome  :)
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: MikeB on September 06, 2005, 11:50:20
I was watching swifts and house martins last night swooping over our pond, catching insects from the look of things.

Regards

MikeB
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: robkb on September 23, 2005, 11:54:05
Haven't seen any swifts around here (south London) for a few weeks now. During the summer I loved eating brekkie outside and watching them darting about overhead. Guess autumn really is on the way...

Cheers,
Rob ;)
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Mrs Ava on September 23, 2005, 22:43:19
I'm afraid I don't know the difference between swifts, swallows or housemartins when they are in flight, but whilst at the allotment today I looked up as I wiped the sweat from my brow and there were at least a dozen swallows/swifts/martins way up zipping around in the Essex sun.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on September 24, 2005, 09:59:56
Swifts have extra long sickle-shaped wings, and martins have white bums. House martins have black backs while sand martins are browner.
Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: Carol on September 24, 2005, 20:09:45
Swfts gone long ago, but the Swallows are still here but I am sure they wont be long in leaving.  They have probably had a late brood again.  Autumn is here.
I am jsut waiting on a sight of the Pink Foot and Grey Lagged geese going over.  I have heard they have arrived but not had a sighting yet.

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Title: Re: Swifts and Swallows
Post by: joji on September 25, 2005, 23:11:37
Our swifts seemd to just dissapear. No swallows left here either for at least 3 weeks. :(