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Title: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: katynewbie on September 01, 2005, 15:53:26
Just been to my local one for Poached Egg plant seeds, a quick longing look at lovely tools I cannot afford etc etc.

It seems I can buy paddling pools, patio sets (?) barbeques, chimeneeey something, candles, arty pots, watercolours, a cream tea, footballs, fleeces, and countless other stuff that has a vague link to gardening.

In fact....there is very little there for a "real" gardener to buy!!

Is it just me? >:(
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: suzylou on September 01, 2005, 16:08:20
Not just you.  I can't tell you how bored I am with candles, dangly sparkly things, posh benches and £200 arbours, when all I actually want is a vegetable plant!
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: SpeedyMango on September 01, 2005, 16:17:59
You just wait. Give it a week or two and you won't be able to move for Christmas tat in most garden centres. I've no idea what makes them think they should be the nation's purveyors of singing santas and crappy decorations for three months of the year. 'Tis not gardening.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: katynewbie on September 01, 2005, 16:31:51
 ;D
Thanks Speedy......had forgotten the festive seasonal orgy of tasteless singing santas....aaaarrrrrrrggggggghhh :'(
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: terrace max on September 01, 2005, 18:48:19
The last garden centre I set foot in had more dancing santas than seeds for sale. Never, ever use them now.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: daisymay on September 01, 2005, 19:33:13
Glad I am not alone on this one! Just appealed to the people of Bedfordshire to tell me where I am going wrong on the locations thread!

I keep on going back to the same garden centre despite being quite disillusioned with what they sell, need ot get out of the comfort zone and explore some of the nurseries near us. I have never seen any vegetable plants in my nearest garden centre other than tomatoes, but they have the largest collection of pottery figures I have ever seen!  ::)

Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Icyberjunkie on September 01, 2005, 22:57:30
...and not forgetting the pictures, dried plants, fish centre, sweets, houseplants, benches, restuarant, pools, books, greeting cards, pet homes......

Always use the local nurseries now!
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: wardy on September 01, 2005, 23:17:37
I phoned a garden centre to check if they had any winter brassicas and they said they did not do veg after May/June as they needed space for Christmas stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: katynewbie on September 01, 2005, 23:26:59
Wardy, at least yours knew what brassicas were....mine looked at me as if I was an alien when I enquired about Japanese Onion sets!!!!
>:(
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: petemason on September 02, 2005, 03:19:13
SCENTED CANDLES!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Icyberjunkie on September 02, 2005, 07:58:07
lmao Pete.  I forgot about those.....
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: daisymay on September 02, 2005, 09:05:34
One good thing about our local garden centre is the total lack of training of any of the staff on the tills! I used to correct them when they made mistakes, but then thought - hang on - not my fault if they have had no training.

Last weekend I bought a spade and fork, meant to be £11.90 EACH in the sale - she put them through 2 for £11.90. - bargain.

Also - some daff bulbs, there was a deal - two plant pots full for a £5. They are meant to empty the plant pots into a carrier bag, but she gave me the pots too, they were meant to be £3.99 each - so £13 worth of stuff for £5. Never occurred to her that that was wrong.

Happens pretty much every time we go there. Got a couple of 3m high obelisks for £1.20 once!
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: gayle on September 02, 2005, 09:24:37
dasymay, what garden centre is it, i need to go and get some bargins too? ;)
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: RosieM on September 02, 2005, 09:31:20
Myself and Mr M went to a garden centre the other day, first time in ages - useless for plants as you all observe - trying to find some autumn veg - hopeless.

However, we did notice as we went towards the tills that whilst the smell of our local nursery is a kind of peaty, papery, oily, slightly animal organic smell, the unmistakable odour of the garden centre is....scented candles and pot pourri!!

We actually commented that the sight of perfect pot plants and trays of pansies and 'homemade' biscuits is irrevocably linked with the candles- bizarre.

RosieM
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: ACE on September 02, 2005, 10:01:34
We are lucky enough to have a good old fashioned seed merchant here and although he has opened up the upstairs of the shop to ornaments and junk the downstairs is still full of seeds some of which you can still buy by the pint measure. Also he stocks really good tools and any remedy you need for plant diseases. Some times he also has bunches of brassicas, leeks, wallflowers, etc.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: aquilegia on September 02, 2005, 10:10:23
I remember being looked at strangely when I asked if they had any vermiculite. "what's that?" they asked. To be honest I had trouble explaining! WHen I asked for garden lime, they sent me in the direction of paints! I never buy plants from the big companies anymore. Local nurseries are much better. But as for veg plants - even my favourite nursery didn't have any this year.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: daisymay on September 02, 2005, 10:21:19
Quote from: gayle on September 02, 2005, 09:24:37
dasymay, what garden centre is it, i need to go and get some bargins too? ;)

Frosts in Willington. Not too far from you maybe?? The Saturday staff are particularly useless so is the best time for bargains.

where abouts in Bedfordshire are you? where do you get your plants etc.. from?
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Multiveg on September 02, 2005, 11:46:24
Not garden centres, but at the Southport flower show, I just wanted to buy a plant. Saw some mini roses in pots and was in the process of picking one when I noticed greenfly. I commented to the person working the stall, and he said that they all have greenfly.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: wardy on September 02, 2005, 12:23:34
Hee hee  ;D
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: gayle on September 02, 2005, 14:40:45
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where abouts in Bedfordshire are you? where do you get your plants etc.. from?
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Im in ampthill [mid beds]
most of my stuff i get on the internet.
the garden centers are the same where i am, and over priced. :o
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: gayle on September 02, 2005, 14:42:43
One day i will get this qoute thing sorted. ???
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: lancelotment on September 02, 2005, 16:40:40
I think I should apologise to everybody.  It's my dad's fault.  Well, people like him at least.  He has every kind of singing, jumping, flashing, dancing type of santa that has been invented.  He's 75 and says it's for the kids but who he thinks he's fooling I'm not sure.

Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: redimp on September 02, 2005, 17:47:44
Quote from: lancelotment on September 02, 2005, 16:40:40
I think I should apologise to everybody.  It's my dad's fault.  Well, people like him at least.  He has every kind of singing, jumping, flashing, dancing type of santa that has been invented.  He's 75 and says it's for the kids but who he thinks he's fooling I'm not sure.


I have a mother in law like that - hose full of tat and the TV permanently tuned to bid up TV (http://bestsmileys.com/yawning/2.gif)
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: wardy on September 02, 2005, 17:59:54
That struck a chord with me RC   I once went to collect a mate for a night out and went in to her parent's house while she got ready.  I looked round at all the decoration in the front room and commented that the Christmas trimmings looked nice - til I realised it was still the end of November!  It wasn't trimmed up for Christmas at all!  It was full of tat - I've never seen so much stuff - that and antimacassars and doyleys on everything. Even on her husband I shouldn't wonder  :o
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Derek on September 03, 2005, 09:25:09
Perhaps it comes with age Wardy  ;)  ;D

I dread that I may reach the point where I have this intense desire to buy... a singing Santa...heaven forbid..  AAGGHH

Derek
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: wardy on September 03, 2005, 10:39:40
 ;D
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: ipt8 on September 03, 2005, 23:02:34
Nurseries can be much better for proper gardening.
Perhaps garden centres should be given awards for having the plants that you want at the right time of year.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: spacehopper on September 04, 2005, 19:39:28
Quote from: Icyberjunkie on September 01, 2005, 22:57:30
Always use the local nurseries now!

Yep, usually the smaller the better.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Linda on September 05, 2005, 12:15:09
I heard a horrifying statistic that maybe explains why GCs are so useless for proper gardeners. Their profits fall roughly into quarters:
25% sundries (and all year round tat)
25% coffee shop (!!)
25% christmas (!!!!!!)
25 % plants, bulbs, seeds :'(

I was told this by a wholesaler who supplies GCs, so it must be somewhere near.

Love and compost
Linda
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: BAGGY on September 05, 2005, 18:29:30
I hate GCs with a vengence.  The one I went to recently even had a butcher (crap meat though, not speciality stuff), florist,candles, jam/fudge/cake stall, double glazing,  saunas, and poked in a corner between the pet stuff and the over priced china dolls (don't even go there)was a few racks of seeds and some seed trays.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: daveandtara on September 06, 2005, 10:41:07
ok, i feel the need to buck the trend a little here, play devil's advocate for a while  ;D
in gravesend there is a millbrook gc. they sell lots of veg plants and loads of seeds. the staff are genuinely helpful and will source and order pretty much anything you ask for. large, perrenials carry a two year guarentee.
they do sell all that other stuff, and they have a posh coffee shop, but that just means i can take my parents and kids with me and they won't get bored while i spend hours looking at seeds!
i've spent many a delightful afternoon there.

okay, sorry, i'll shut up  :-[
Tara xx
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: redimp on September 06, 2005, 20:34:14
We do have a garden centre/large nursery that is good as well - Whisby. The rest are rubbish.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: katynewbie on September 07, 2005, 00:48:40
 ;D ;D ;D
I wish I lived somewhere else now!! Forgot to say that when I asked about Japanese Onion sets the woman said "There's no call for them" >:(
Hang on........I AM CALLING FOR THEM!!!!
Ahem..rant over.....breathe.....
  ::)
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Mubgrub on September 07, 2005, 14:30:57
Quote from: katynewbie on September 07, 2005, 00:48:40"There's no call for them" >:(
Hang on........I AM CALLING FOR THEM!!!!
Ahem..rant over.....breathe.....

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: petemason on September 07, 2005, 14:48:11
Quote from: redclanger on September 06, 2005, 20:34:14
We do have a garden centre/large nursery that is good as well - Whisby. The rest are rubbish.

Yes, Whisby's fine but P******s at the bottom of the Lincoln by-pass fits all the descriptions in this discussion. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: kitty on September 10, 2005, 16:40:26
hang on!.....clanger..pete-you been to whisby since they put up the aircraft hanger?its starting to get full of tat-they are even selling plastic plants for conservatories ::)
and they havent got any japanese onions either.
its becoming more like*ennels* everyday!
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Maddy on September 10, 2005, 19:30:40
It's not just the garden centre staff who don't know their prices (or their onions  ;D) I got two great bargains from B & Q this year, including a set of 3 large pots that should have been £19.99 for 99p.  Who am I to correct the girl on the till, especially when she'd just made me walk all the way back to their garden centre to get one with the price on...like that helped! 

My local garden centre isn't too bad but a little overloaded with ornamental Winnie the Pooh and other Disney rubbish  >:( :(

M.
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: petemason on September 10, 2005, 22:45:06
Quote from: kitty on September 10, 2005, 16:40:26
hang on!.....clanger..pete-you been to whisby since they put up the aircraft hanger?its starting to get full of tat-they are even selling plastic plants for conservatories ::)
and they havent got any japanese onions either.
its becoming more like*ennels* everyday!

No, I haven't been in there Kitty but I have seen the aircraft hanger! I'll stay clear. Any Lincs Garden Centres or Nursery's you could recommend?
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: kitty on September 11, 2005, 18:32:59
a nursery thats very good for plants(but not accessories or veg,its a nursery)..is hall farm nursery at harpswell.i rely on wilkos for seeds and sets-veg plant from the allotment soc. sale in may or the farmers market at the right time in castle square 3rd saturday every month-the lincs organic gardeners have a stall (and always want new members!)and sell surplus plants  and veg,cheese and eggs and there are always one or two plant stalls there-herbs and perennials..
*kitty blushes modestly and circles toe in dirt*
its a market close to my heart cos i started it about4 years ago ;D
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: petemason on September 18, 2005, 15:33:19
Quote from: kitty on September 11, 2005, 18:32:59
a nursery thats very good for plants(but not accessories or veg,its a nursery)..is hall farm nursery at harpswell.i rely on wilkos for seeds and sets-veg plant from the allotment soc. sale in may or the farmers market at the right time in castle square 3rd saturday every month-the lincs organic gardeners have a stall (and always want new members!)and sell surplus plants and veg,cheese and eggs and there are always one or two plant stalls there-herbs and perennials..
*kitty blushes modestly and circles toe in dirt*
its a market close to my heart cos i started it about4 years ago ;D

..........and very good it was too Kitty. We made our first visit yesterday and came away with some fudge (eaten before we got back to the car), 3 different types of sausages, some honey, a LOGO membership application form and a son saying (adopt Peter Kay voice) "Ostrich!!!.........burgers!??"
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: kitty on September 18, 2005, 15:56:32
glad you enjoyed it! ;D
did you try the ostrich>
its lovely! and redhills pork n' leek sosijis are great.......
if you mosey'd down to the shop incognito you may not have got the' full on kitty welcome'-i was cheesed off yesterday so no-one did!contemplating the amount of work i have to do in readyness for christmas....eek! >:(
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: petemason on September 18, 2005, 16:13:47
Just had the pork and leek sausages on probably the last BBQ of the year. I asked at the LOGO stall if they knew you but to no avail. I think we'll be back again next month. Didn't try the ostrich by the way, 8 year old son was "Grossed-out"
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: kitty on September 18, 2005, 16:25:56
well they bloomin well should!i fought hard enough with the farming lot to get them tolet on an amateur organisation!tsk! ::)thetre are a lot of new voluteers tho so i'll let them off!
grossed out?!!!they're just big chickins!
Title: Re: Garden Centres Grrrrrr
Post by: Amazin on September 19, 2005, 02:06:54
Right on, Kitty - had ostrich for Christmas dinner a couple of years ago - deeee-lish!