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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Garden Manager on August 29, 2005, 22:35:26

Title: Crops to start now
Post by: Garden Manager on August 29, 2005, 22:35:26
Heres another one from me.

Any suggestions please on crops to start off now (ie sow seed now), that will grow with minimum protection through autimn and early winter?

I am rapidly gaining empty soil in my veg beds, and need to fill them! I have kept most areas going well thus far, with late lettuce and other 'summer' salads etc, but now have run out of choices.

Advice please. :)
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Roy Bham UK on August 29, 2005, 22:51:07
Good question Richard ;) will watch with interest, I think maybe radish, spring onions, spinach and Iceberg lettuce at a push worth a punt at this late moment in time, I will try them as I have a lot of space for experimenting. ;D
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Multiveg on August 29, 2005, 23:16:54
spring greens - turnips, cabbage. Winter melons (whatever they are) according to Grow Your Own (a bit-part collection that I have a copy of published in the 1970s).
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: organicartist on August 30, 2005, 11:04:08
I'll be planting black kale, garlic (advice on planting time for garlic seems to be between mid sept - nov, depending on who you ask) winter onions, overwintering peas and broadbeans.
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: aquilegia on August 30, 2005, 11:27:07
I'm going to try some baby carrots and beetroot too and parsley and rocket. You could also try winter lettuces.

Oh and don't forget about green manure.
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Garden Manager on August 30, 2005, 12:35:35
Mmm.. Thanks, I have some seed of a few of those. Of course i was planning another planting of garlic after the sucess i had with the last crop. I suppose anything which is not specificaly described as non hardy is worth a go?

I already have some radish and rocket, so another sowing would be worth doing then. Good!
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Ed^Chigliak on August 30, 2005, 13:04:20
This is my winter to do list not forgeting bare rooted fruit trees / bushes available in November.

Hardy lettuce - winter density requires cloche to protect from the worst of the weather
Endive - Cornet de bordeaux
Chicory - Grumolo verde
Spring greens - winter green cabbage / offenham
Green manures - vetch / facelia
Lambs lettuce
Spanish black radish - leave some to bolt in spring for edible seed pods
Onion set - radar
Garlic - hardneck music
Broad beans aquadulce - autumn sowing
Spring onion - winter hardy lisbon
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Multiveg on August 30, 2005, 14:22:34
Quote from: Ed^Chigliak on August 30, 2005, 13:04:20
This is my winter to do list not forgeting bare rooted fruit trees / bushes available in November.

Hardy lettuce - winter density requires cloche to protect from the worst of the weather
Endive - Cornet de bordeaux
Chicory - Grumolo verde
Spring greens - winter green cabbage / offenham
Green manures - vetch / facelia
Lambs lettuce
Spanish black radish - leave some to bolt in spring for edible seed pods
Onion set - radar
Garlic - hardneck music
Broad beans aquadulce - autumn sowing
Spring onion - winter hardy lisbon


What sort of music does garlic (and other plants) like?  ;D
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: sussexcliff on August 30, 2005, 15:11:22
My first year as a lottie, based in Shoreham By Sea (within 2 miles of coast, very late for first frost and very early for last frost) our normal garden with bamboos, grasses, cordline, phormium, but winters not quite warm enough for Geraniums to be left outdoors unprotected, even on S facing patio. Not enough frost to break up the clods after digging.

This is my winter “to do list” not forgeting bare rooted fruit trees / bushes/ canes available in November. I have 75% dug the fruit area ready for white clover (as you can leave it for years) May extend fruit area as there’s an awful lot of allotment left to dig!! and fruit is lovely and expensive in the shops.

To sow:
Hardy lettuce - winter density, awaiting delivery
Green manures - white clover, finish digging and sow
Lambs lettuce â€" seed arrived, now create first raised bed
Garlic â€" Purple Wight music, awaiting delivery

Awaiting delivery of Brassica plants (Gardeningnews)
Awaiting delivery of Onion sets (white & red, Radar & Electric)
More in hope than confidence, I am going to try some Purslane, some Wallflowers, Winter Flowering Pansies (well our’s are still flowering from last year) and I’m still planting Dwarf French Beans

Not yet ordered:
Broad beans aquadulce - autumn sowing
Spring onion - winter hardy Lisbon
Radishes (Fruhlingsgrub China Rose from EdwinTuckers)

If I can ever work out how much space I have left for next year, I would like white radish, yellow courgettes, red sprouts, Sage Tricolor, Parmex yellow carrots!!

It can all get very complicated
Cheers
Cliff
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: RobinOfTheHood on August 30, 2005, 21:19:13
I've seen Purple Sprouting Broccoli plugs on sale today in the local garden centre, I sowed mine in May but they have been decimated by the cabbage whites.
Does anyone think I might be able to sow some more?

Might just give it a try regardless  :)
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: terrace max on August 30, 2005, 21:25:43
Some options:

Bunching Onion  Kuronobori
Cabbage   Offenham 2 Flower of Spring
Carrot   Nantes Frubund
Chicory   Catalogna Gigante di Chioggia
Chicory   Catalogna Pugliese
Chicory   Catalogna Puntarelle Brindisina
Chicory   Orchidea Rossa
Chicory   Palla Rossa 'Agena'
Chicory   Palla Rossa 'Melot'
Chicory   Rossa di Treviso 'Svelta'
Chicory   Selvatica da Campo
Chinese Cabbage   Green Lance F1
Chinese Cabbage   Yukina Savoy
Chinese Celery   Kintsai
Chinese Kale   Kailaan
Chives   
Choy Sum   Â  Hon Tsai Tai
Choy Sum   Â  Purple
Endive   Cornet de Bordeaux
Lambs Lettuce   Louviers
Lettuce   Aruba RZ
Lettuce   Belize
Lettuce   Lizzy
Lettuce   Tonale Ice Queen
Mibuna   Green Spray
Mitsuba   
Mizuna   
Mustard   Red Giant
Mustard   Tai Ping Po
Mustard Greens   Southern Giant
Pak Choi   Canton White
Pak Choi   Joy Choi
Pak Choi   Qin Tah Tsai
Pak Choi   Tah Tsai
Radish   Black Spanish Round
Radish   Cherokee
Radish   Munchen Bier
Turnip   Noir d'Hiver
American cress   
Burnet   Salad
Chicory   Bianca di Chioggia
Chicory   Palla Rossa 'Pagoda'
Chicory   Rossa di Treviso 2
Chicory   Spadona
Chicory   Variegata di Castel Franco
Chicory   Variegata di Chioggia 'Fladige'
Chicory   Zuccherina di Trieste
Choy Sum   Â  Tsai Hsin
Edible Carrot Leaf   
Endive   Ascolana
Endive   Bionda a Foglia di Lattuga
Endive   Bubikopf 2
Indian Mustard  Amsoi
Komatsuna   
Lettuce   Winter Crop
Lettuce   Winter Density
Lovage   
Pak Choi   Riko F1
Perilla   
Radish   Big Ben
Sweet Woodruff   
Turnip   Tokyo Cross F1
Burdock   
Chicory   Bianca di Milano
Chicory   Catalgna Frastagliata
Chicory   Grumolo Verde
Chicory   Red Rib
Chicory   Taglio Bionda a Fofglie Larghe
Dog Rose   
Kale   Red Russian
Lambs Lettuce   Trophy
Lambs Lettuce   Verte de Cambrai
Lettuce   Amorina
Lettuce   Arctic King
Lettuce   Red Wave
Misome   
Mustard   Bau-Sin
Mustard   Big Stem
Mustard   Green in snow
Mustard   Peacock Tail
Mustard   San-Ho Giant
Rampion   
Spring Onion White Lisbon (Winter Hardy)
Bulbous Chervil   
Chervil   
Cress   
Mustard   White
Senposai Greens  No. 1
Cauliiflower  Mexico F1
Parsley   Italian Giant

I love Autumn!
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: katynewbie on August 30, 2005, 21:57:37
Crikey me Terrace....this digging lark is about to move into overdrive!! Why did I think I could only work half of my plot this year? The anti weed sheets are coming off tomorrow and clods will be flying in order to get some of that lot in!!!
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: terrace max on August 30, 2005, 22:08:38
QuoteCrikey me Terrace....this digging lark is about to move into overdrive!! Why did I think I could only work half of my plot this year? The anti weed sheets are coming off tomorrow and clods will be flying in order to get some of that lot in!!!

I reckon late summer/ autumn can be the best time in the garden. The real new year gardening-wise. A kind of spring but without the hassle of so many pests. And the soil is great to work with too!
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: sussexcliff on September 01, 2005, 18:57:12
Another thought

I followed up the Hurrah and found Marshalls seeds open. They've got baby carrot and baby turnip for Christmas harvesting. I'm going to try some.

Cliff
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: Sketty on September 01, 2005, 19:16:26
Where's the best place to get good seed (not supermarket) garlic, like yesterday? :)
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: tim on September 01, 2005, 19:46:59
May I suggest that there is no best place?

If you Google Garlic or Search A4A for Garlic, you'll find lots of ideas.

So much is grown in this country now that you have a good chance of success.
Title: Re: Crops to start now
Post by: wardy on September 01, 2005, 23:02:11
My turnip seedlings have been eaten by slugs (I presume) while I nipped off for a few days  :(

Good news though is that my chinese leaves mixture is doing well and I had a taste today, and although still ,tiny they taste really hot and spicy  :)