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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Beryl on July 27, 2005, 22:51:39

Title: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: Beryl on July 27, 2005, 22:51:39
Can anyone answer this question for me please?
I think it is a pesticide.

Do gardeners in England use Bacillus thuringiensis (sold in Australia under the brand name of Dipel)?

Thanks
Beryl.
Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 28, 2005, 00:05:50
It's a bacterium which kills caterpillars; there are different strains for different types. I've used Certan to kill greater wax moths (a pest of beekeeping). They vanished overnight and I haven't needed it again.
Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: tim on July 28, 2005, 07:08:19
bt, sadly, is no longer available in the UK - to the best of my knowledge.
Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: wardy on July 28, 2005, 10:44:16
Yes it is available in the UK.  I've seen it for sale but it's dear - about £34 odd for 500 grams

If you just Google (UK) it comes up with the supplier and you can order off the internet.  A west country firm (JFC Monro)

Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: tim on July 28, 2005, 11:11:39
Thanks for that - I know that all the regular suppliers have discontinued it. For some safety reason??
Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 28, 2005, 11:56:31
It's not cheap - none of these things is - but Thorne's (who charge the earth) are still selling Certan at £9.72+VAT for 120ml. I haven't tried it, but I have it on good authority that you can make your own BT culture by taking some of the diseased caterpillars, mashing them up in milk, and keeping the mixture in the fridge. I don't know how long it stores for, but a small bottle should do for a season at least if you do that.
Title: Re: Bacillus thuringiensis
Post by: wardy on July 28, 2005, 12:22:52
I could just imagine me trying to explain away squashed caterpillars in me fridge to the Health Inspector  ;D ;D