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Title: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 08, 2005, 14:59:34
Now Eric, come one!!! How can you not like roses!!! This is my favourite, my weeping standard.  Convinvced?? LOL 
Lottie   ;D  ;D
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/undercarriage/weepingrose.jpg)
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: Mimi on July 08, 2005, 17:33:26
Soooooooo pretty Lottie.  He still wont like it you know  ;)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 08, 2005, 17:35:31
I've a resolve of iron!!!! Think you could be right though!! Lottie
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Post by: Palustris on July 08, 2005, 17:41:18
Rust, mildew, black spot, rose chafer, aphids, thorns, pruning, dead twig for 6 months. Want any more reasons!
Don't mind them in other peoples gardens.
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Post by: Val on July 08, 2005, 17:54:47
Yep got to agree with Eric....but such a gorgeous smell and guess what, I'm planning to put some in the border under the front room window so the smell whafts in...but I don't like them as plants..Eric has listed why.
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Post by: montanum on July 08, 2005, 19:10:31
Yes I must also agree roses are yuch!
When we moved to our present house the front garden had a rose hedge one side of the drive and a load of hybrid teas on the other and so the first bit of gardening I did was to remove the lot.        Nice scent though.
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: Palustris on July 08, 2005, 19:33:00
We have got some roses in the garden, and one or two came from Montanum's garden!
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 08, 2005, 20:39:51
Very sad now.......roses are so different.  Not all hybrid tea roses. But coping with sadness..... Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 08, 2005, 21:59:33
What sort of rose is it? I like the old-style roses, but I'm not so keen on these modern large-flowered things.
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 08, 2005, 23:11:10
It's a standard rose, but the graft is of a rambler, so it becomes a weeping standard rose!! Rosa "Ballerina", but stem is not strong enough to support top!!! Tied to stake!! (But sshhh, don't tell Eric!!!!)  Lottie ;D
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Post by: Mrs Ava on July 09, 2005, 12:34:04
I don't like them either, never have.  Removed all the roses from our garden before I did the weeding!  It is not only all the pests and diseases, but the scent on some is okay, but far from my fave, and all those petals going slimey and messy.  They look most at home on a coffin! :-\
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 09, 2005, 23:51:34
I'm quite choosy, but I love Rosa Mundi and some of the other old ones.
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 10, 2005, 17:09:59
Thank you, Robert!! Smelly flowers all summer and wonderful red hips in winter. Beautiful.  Lottie
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Post by: Marianne on July 10, 2005, 19:04:57
Lottie,

I think your roses are heavenly !  I adore them.  I have a dark red Ena Harkness growing over my arch and the scent is beautiful ! ;D :D ;D
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Post by: BAGGY on July 10, 2005, 20:21:33
My friend used to say that the only good rose was a dead one. That they have diseases for half the year and the rest of the time they are just twigs with thorns.  I am nonplussed by them.
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 10, 2005, 20:39:40
Why all this negativity!! Not surprised roses are keeling over about the place, they are obviously unloved! No woolly aphid, no vine weevils, they come back year after year and they are blooming beautiful!!! Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Carol on July 10, 2005, 20:57:36
I have climbing roses Lottie.  but like Eric, OH does not like shrub roses or floribundas.  But if it was my garden only, I would have loads of roses cos I think they are beautiful.

;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 10, 2005, 21:04:41
Thank you,Carol!! Just think they are marvelous flowers, luckilymy OH loves them!! Can get them for almost any situation, and if loved, flower their liittle socks off!! Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 10, 2005, 22:15:35
I don't like shrub roses or floribundas either, but I do like bush roses, climbers and ramblers.
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 11, 2005, 13:30:19
This is beginning to sound like a confessional!!! Don't worry, your secret love of roses is safe......!!  :o Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Marley Farley on July 12, 2005, 11:08:15
 :) Well I have to agree with Lottie & co, roses are lovely & worth the effort, food & a little attention, & the rewards are great. If you feed them then they don't suffer half as much from pests & diseases I find.  :) :)
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Post by: Palustris on July 12, 2005, 11:33:35
So the only way to get half decent plants is to spray, prune, feed, dead head, mulch, collect up fallen leaves. Get a life.
Still do not want roses in my garden. As I said all along, other people's gardens maybe, but not for me. Having said that, there are about 15 rose bushes in flower here at present, mostly ramblers and climbers though and tucked away in the hedges where I don't have to go anywhere near them except when attacking the place with the hedge trimmers.
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 12, 2005, 15:15:29
Oh Eric, you're so harsh!!  :'(  :'(  :'(. Dead head occasionally and don't spray for anything, have lots of little ladybirds, black spot restance bred in. No dividing, just a bit of love.  Sigh   Lottie  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Post by: Palustris on July 12, 2005, 19:28:42
Black spot resistance bred in, hmmmmm. Is that why one of the sold as disease resistant modern English roses which we have just discarded was leafless? All the leaves on the floor were typically spotted with the disease. The rose was bought from the actual breeder too, cost a fortune. And since our soil is extremely fertile one cannot say the rose was hungry.
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 12, 2005, 21:06:14
Wow, that's bad.  My resistant ones seem to be fine.  Take twig back to breeder, do alot of finger waggling and gesticulating and threaten to name them on here if no refund!!!  Lottie  ;) ;D
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Post by: Marley Farley on July 13, 2005, 08:19:27
 ;D Don't think it may have sensed your dislike of them by any chance Eric.....!!!!!!!!!!! LOL  ??? ;D ??? ;D
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Post by: Palustris on July 13, 2005, 10:14:28
And you know what really bugs me? The hedgerows here are full of briar roses, flowering away merrily and how much black spot on them? Not a trace, but the ones in my garden are all well on their way to defoliation.
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Post by: Marley Farley on July 13, 2005, 11:27:36
  ;D Perhaps it's because they have the freedom to roam. ;D ;D and of course they have not been messed about by man. ::) ::)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 13, 2005, 15:08:22
Roses in hedgerows are native so have in built resistance to black spot, been here thousands of years.   The roses we know and love (some of us!!) are relatively new introductions, hundreds of years, so they don't have the in built resistance.  There, how's that for an explanation!!! Lottie ;D  :o Not even sure if it's right!!! But sounds right!!
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Post by: Doris_Pinks on July 13, 2005, 15:17:09
Sorry but I am with Eric here, I adore looking at other peoples, but cannot be faffed to have them myself, although I have inherited 2 with the garden and yes, they are covered in aphids and blackspot, so look very ugly now they have flowered!  Black spot resistance, round these parts thats a load of baloney, it doesn't exist! ;D
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Post by: dibberxxx on July 13, 2005, 15:29:42
i am with lottie and others you cant beat an old English rose in any garden
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 13, 2005, 18:00:42
Oggy Oggy Oggy.....!!!  :o  ;D  ;) Turning into a football match, better than wimbeldon!!  All I can say is each to his/her own (obviously), Decking or patio.......???   ;) Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Gardengirl on July 16, 2005, 11:18:31
Your roses are beautiful lottie, IMO an English garden isn't complete without roses.  OK, so there are a few down sides to roses, but the sheer beauty and scent of them more than compensates.  My climbing rose 'Albertine' is very similar to yours - apparently that was the late Queen Mum's favourite :)
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Post by: undercarriage plan on July 16, 2005, 11:54:41
Thanks Garden girl!! They are just the most romantic flowers, probably my probelm, big romantic Noodle!!! Have one on arch called "Summer Wine", beautiful single flowers and a soft spicy scent, love 'em!!  Any other pics out there?  Would love to see other peeps' favourite.  Lottie  ;D
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Post by: Marley Farley on July 16, 2005, 13:05:29
:) Hi Lottie, Yes have to agree an English garden isn't complete without a rose, I have several, but I think this is my favourite. As far as I can remember it is called "elizabeth arden" & has a beautiful scent, the blooms are huge as you can see. Love it.......... ;D ;D (http://nucite.net/isWext.php/3842/81108.jpg) Will go & see if any more worth a post.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Gardengirl on July 16, 2005, 15:50:56
Here are a few roses I have growing in my garden
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/Oldfashionedrose.jpg)This is a lovely old fashioned climber.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/Rememberme.jpg)'Remember me' - some friends gave me this when I lost one of my dogs a few years ago.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/GeoffHamilton.jpg)This one is 'Geoff Hamilton'.  I was lucky enough to have my photo taken with him a short while before he died - a lovely man.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/CliffRichard.jpg)This one is 'Cliff Richard' - I don't care if you all laugh, but daughter and I are huge fans ;) ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/ChicagoPeace.jpg)'Chicago Peace' - a beautiful rose inherited from the people who used to live in our bungalow.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/gardengirl2004/A4A2/Albertine.jpg)'Albertine' - the one I refer to above.
Your Elizabeth Arden is beautiful MF :)
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Post by: Carol on July 16, 2005, 20:06:47
Hey Lottie,
Thought you may like to see one of my climbers, Think this is Pink Perpetua,  it is a young rose and this is the first year it has flowered like this.   I think its beautiful...

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/lowrieT/IMG_0420.jpg)




just spotted 2 flies on the roses as well, cheek!!!
Title: Re: For Palustris....!
Post by: undercarriage plan on July 16, 2005, 20:17:55
They are all so beautiful, perfdect in fact.  More!!!  ;D Lottie