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http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/Story/0,2763,1523084,00.html

Just read about this on Yahoo news Aqui  :'( ... Very scary for all you London peeps.Wonder if it has anything to do with London getting the 2012 Olympics  ???  Or just  plain evilness.. either way what a dreadful thing to happen.

Now, don't get carried away till we know more about what caused it. It was apparently due to a 'power surge'.

Still, really bad timing after the Olympic bid announcement.

the latest says bombs. lots of them too.

No coincidence being day after olympic announcement.

I'm really trying not to panic.

Mr Aqui's ok, at least.

watching on the telly.  Originally said powersurge but fact that at least one bus has exploded too makes it almost certainly terrorist.  Horrible. Reminds me of watching on September 11 2001 and wondering what was going to happen next.

Didnt know that 'power surges' caused exposions in buses robsa.

Thought of you when I heard the news Aqui, glad to hear that you and Mr Aqui are okay.

Really horrible news, makes you wonder what will happen next!

Right I've managed to calm down a bit now. But no one seems to know what's really going on. My office is outside of London, but East London, and home is on the tube. Mr Aqui's in central London. how on earth we'll be getting home???

Just managed to speak to my husband thank goodness.  He phoned on his mobile at 8.45 to say he was just going on the underground at Kings Cross so must have just missed it.  I have been so scared and really feel for all the people still trying to find out if their people are ok. 

It was too good to be true wasn't it, having positive news yesterday.  Clearly it was meant to disrupt the G8 conference.

Oh my god what mindless morons do these kind of things ,its bad enough to see it on the news but my heart goes out to anyone who has been unlucky enough to get caught up in it all.  I hope you and mr aqui get home safe and sound and glad to know that your husband is ok tullipa

Tulippa - you poor thing. You must've been so worried. Glad he's ok.

I don't think it's got anything to do with G8 - surely then it'd be in Scotland? I reckon it's serving as a taste of what we'll get in 2012.

What the hell is wrong with these people? How can they kill, maime and disrupt the lives of other people like this?

Tony Blair has just had a press conference and confirmed that it is the work of terrorists.  BBC News have also reported that a statement found on a website states that the work is by a European Al Quida group - but they are waiting to confirm if this is true.   Its believe the target is the disruption of the G8, ie disruption of western democracy  ???   The Police are asking people to stay where they are for the moment and to not try to move around London.  

Blair says the G8 will continue, although he will be going to London this afternoon and then back up to Scotland for this evening.

Thoughts and prayers are with you all down in London, especially those still trapped underground from the blasts.

Aqui and Tulippa, I am so glad your news is good.  So happy for both of you.

This leaves a horrible cold feeling running through ones veins of just what will happen next and who is responsible.

My brother works in London at times so my mum (Rosebud) tracked him down on his mobile this morning, but thankfully today he wasn't in London.  All is well.  

The moment I read how the people from the train explosion exited the station onto a bus which then exploded, I knew it was terrorism and nothing else.  

As Aqui says, what the hell is wrong with these people?  Is it the start of the dreaded retaliatory attacks from the ME we've all been "waiting" for?  :-[

I was expecting something a lot larger and more professional from that quarter. That being said, all sorts of people are linked with them in a very loose network, and some are rank amateurs. Remember the shoe bomber, trying to light a bit of fuse with a match? Whatever the aim and whoever did it - and the lesson of history here is that it's foolish to lead to premature conclusions, it's going to result in infinitely more being spent on security scares and false alerts than it cost to do the bombing.

I am by london bridge and things are a bit hectic. The army have been deployed at leicester square

one of the buses was almost certainly a suicide bomber

al quaida have claimed resposibility

Most mobile networks are unable to come so find a landline if needed - although any i have tried to call are dead or engaged

There have been a lot more bombs found but are not being reported as they ave deactivated them

My darling Ava works in Old Street, so quite close to it all.  I didn't hear about it until I was on the treadmill at the gym, and saw a newsflash.  Couldn't believe my eyes, thought it was one of those programs like Cutting Edge showing what could happen.  I telephoned my darling, and he is fine, and grateful for the motorbike as it means he will be ferrying people to home as most of his staff live in London and all are stranded.  To be honest, I would be happier if he would do his 'taxi' service, then come home to me!

My brother in law is in Hackney and he reports a large line of buses all parked up outside his office!  Driving around Chelmsford at about 11ish, lots of buses were pulled over and there were a lot of bus maintenance peeps about, going over them - better to be safe than sorry huh!

Words fail me.  >:(
My sympathese to those injured or worse, and their families, and sending brave, stay safe, vibes to all of those in the affected areas as they try to get home.

Good news on the Ava front, EJ.  A huge relief for you.  Thank goodness.  Tell him to get on that bike and get home!

I have heard from just about all my friends who work in the City, saying they're OK. The bus in Tavistock square went up right outside one friend's office - blew the top deck wide open. He's OK but he bus and the passengers are a mess, apparently.

Some people are being evacuated from offices very close to the incidents, and sent home in taxis, others are being told to stay put.

Currently at least 7 explosions, including two or more buses.

I expect mobile phones don't work as they'll have switched off the cells in the City - the Madrid bombs were set off by mobile phone.

I hope everyone else is OK and can get home tonight.

My relief for all you london peeps too, take care

I was cursing my tv as i watched the news reports- that interview with the cheif police- he gave sound advice- what peeved me was that he told media not to speculate on the cause- then next question asked was exactly that. I fail to see the benefit of speculating and reporting hearsay. The BBC at least should have stuck to the facts.

The streets around here are dead - like a ghost town.

London Bridge station is packed though with people trying to get somewhere.

EJ - glad Ava is ok. Where in Hackney is your BIL? The traffic looks awful out of my window. I keep seeing the odd bus go by.

Shaolin - glad you're ok. will you manage to get home?

Mr Aqui still has no idea how he's going to get home this evening. They are saying the tubes won't be running again today.

My dad says they turned off the mobile phone network to stop any more bombs being triggered.

I just hope this doesn't cause the West to retaliate anywhere and kill even more people in the Middle East to say that blowing people up is wrong.

BTW - Al Qaedia doesn't exist. It was invented by the CIA... Although of course, terrorists exist, just not in the way they say.

Shocked and horrified.  Actually heard when I saw Aqui's posting. Immediately got on the phone to my sister who lives in London.  My brother in law had taken his car this morning instead of going on the tube.  My nieces are both working in  the centre of London, both safe and sound, Thank God, but stuck and wondering how they will get home, as things at a complete standstill.  This is so appalling, and although I know it seemed a foregone conclusion that something would happen sometime, it is a shocking event.  It is in stark contrast to the happiness of yesterday. So glad to hear that our a4a friends and their loved ones appear to be safe.  I am thinking about you all. love, busy_lizzie

Thanks aqui, i will get back fine - gonna take a walk.

Have read a couple of 'have your say' bits on the beeb news site saying that some offices are preparing for staff to stay overnight!

Phoned my mum and dad back in Aus, after getting their 'you weren't in london today were you?' email, and the news back there was saying a similair thing about the schools - kids are being kept at school all day, without being able to get home!

Glad to hear that all A4Aers and their family in the London area are okay.

I live and work in London but I'm on leave at the moment.  OH only got half way to work when they closed down the tubes so he rang me and then returned home safely.  Since I've heard I've been emailing, phoning and texting friends and family to let them know we're safe and to check on others.  I'm in state of shock and I'm horrified like everyone else.  What a world.   :(

G xx

All our thoughts and love go to those hurt, injured and have lost loved ones. A terrible thing, there but for the grace of God go a lot of us. Let there be an end to it for goodness sake. We all knew it was coming after 9.11. but why? they only achieve more hatred.

Terrible. I would just like to send my heart felt feelings for those poor people who have been injured  and  to the families of those who have lost their lives.. I have a nephew who works in the area but he only works Sun Mon & Tues nights so I know he is safe. Especially my thoughts are with friends on this forum. Lorna.

Aqui- i too believe Al Queda are a fabrication- as yet there is nothing conclusive to say it was them but ayeone has decided it was- could just as easily been some 'other' nutters

If anyone wants to know who it could be here is one of the groups laying claim to it -

Statement claiming London attacks 
The BBC has located an Islamist website that has published a 200-word statement issued by an organisation saying it carried out the London bombings.
The organisation calls itself the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda [literally the base] of Jihad Organisation in Europe.

The group not previously been heard of.

The website has previously carried statements purporting to be from al-Qaeda. It is not possible to verify such claims published on the web.

This is the full text of the statement.



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In the name of God, the merciful, the compassionate, may peace be upon the cheerful one and undaunted fighter, Prophet Muhammad, God's peace be upon him.

Nation of Islam and Arab nation: Rejoice for it is time to take revenge against the British Zionist Crusader government in retaliation for the massacres Britain is committing in Iraq and Afghanistan. The heroic mujahideen have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.

We have repeatedly warned the British Government and people. We have fulfilled our promise and carried out our blessed military raid in Britain after our mujahideen exerted strenuous efforts over a long period of time to ensure the success of the raid.

We continue to warn the governments of Denmark and Italy and all the Crusader governments that they will be punished in the same way if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. He who warns is excused.

God says: "You who believe: If ye will aid (the cause of) Allah, He will aid you, and plant your feet firmly."

well Mr Aqui has started his long journey home. I have no idea how long it's going to take or how he's going to manage it. There's talk of some of the stations reopening soon. But goodness knows what chaos they'll be in. To be honest I'm not too happy about him going near a station at all. But I'm sure they must have major security gong on.

We're hopefully be leaving work soon. We've been told we're not allowed to leave early, but we do flexitime so can go at 4. hopefully. My colleague's giving me a lift most of the way home.

Aqui, you take care, we will be thinking of you both.  There is a press conference on at the moment and they are hoping to have some of the buses running soon.

They now say 33 fatalities - those poor families and friends, it is so unfair.  My thoughts are with anyone touched by this.

Quote from: aquilegia on July 07, 2005, 13:59:40
EJ - glad Ava is ok. Where in Hackney is your BIL? The traffic looks awful out of my window. I keep seeing the odd bus go by.

Aqui......BIL works on Hackney Marshes in the old Brewery Building in a company called Park (you can see it from the A12).

Unfortunately a lot of my staff are unable to get in today, so I am stuck here trying to organise replacements and pursuade the night shift that they will be able to get in........... :( ::)

It's a horrible scene from London today, so I hope everyone gets home safe and well.

Nice to see that people stayed calm, and aren't causing a fuss about getting home.

Our thoughts are with you all down there

Take care

My God what is this world coming to.  My thoughts and prayers are with the bereaved families and the injured.
It took me about half an hour to get my son on his mobile i was beside myself,when it just kept on ringing, and i don`t know how many times it cut out after i tried to phone him, then the phone rang and it was him, (he said Mum don't just keep ringing twice and turning off the phone)i diden`t know whether to laugh or burst into tears at his voice, he was so sorry he didn't know i kept on getting cut off.  Thank God he was out of London today.
Aqui i hope by now hubby is home, and you are both relaxing a bit.
To everyone who has friends or relatives and waiting for them to get home i hope they will all be home by dark.  My God what a day. God bless A4Aers.

All my thoughts are with you foks.Wich town is now on top of their list AMSTERDAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got in at 9pm after ferrying colleagues home all over north London and beyond since 4.30pm. I felt so sorry for those walking home on my route because, as if today wasn't bad enough, to cap it all the skies opened at 7 o'clock and down it came.
Georgie, glad you're on leave - you can imagine what our workplaces were like today.  At mine, they'd already set up beds in one of the conference rooms for staff who live too far away to get home.
My son was round the corner from the bus blast and almost drove right into it. He heard the blast and saw the debris flying. Luckily he does a mean u-turn.
One of my colleagues is married to a woman who works at Canary Wharf - where security was immediately heightened - and he got news from his wife round about lunchtime that police had shot someone in that area. Nothing more on that one, I'm afraid, and certainly nothing from any of the news agencies.
To all, hope you and yours are safe and well.

 

Hi Amazin',  I've been worried about you all day.  So glad to hear that you and yours are safe and well.

G xx

My husband was due to be on the train that would have got him into Kings X just as the first bomb blew :o  So big thanks to the staff at our local station who stopped him and gave him the news as he tried to buy a ticket

I do hope everybody has good news of their people in the city, its 4am and I cant sleep, im going out in the garden to talk to my plants - even if im mad - at least they calm me down and help keep things in perspective ;)

Managed to get home safely last night. Took twice as long as normal and Mr Aqui (who got in ten minutes after me) took nearly three times the normal length. Buses were letting everyone on for free. Didn't sleep well - was having some pretty horrible dreams.

Glad everyone else got home ok.

Have we heard from Svea? I know she lives in London...

Friend of mine was on the train on which 21 people died.

She got away with some serious cuts and being deafened by the blast for a while. the hospital patched her up OK, and she's recovering fine now (but probably still in shock).

I hope they find the evil people that did this. It was not a "military raid" as in their statement. It was an act of cowardice.

OMG Speedy - I hope your friend is doing ok. Must've been a terrible shock.

Poor lady, I do feel for her and all the people and their families who were caught up in the bombs. 

I have also been thinking of the emergancy services, hospital workers etc, all the people that have helped in any way, as they too will have some traumatic memories of the day, my best wishes go out to them all.  They will have had some terrible jobs to do.  They all deserve medals.

My Wife has gone in today (I wimped out -didn't fancy trying to get to Hammersmith from Liverpool St. -anyway I can do just as much at home). She works at the British Museum and some genius who didn't want his bag searched has just chained it to the railings, blues & twos everywhere.

Derbex.

Humph. I suspect said genius will come out to find it's been blown up for him...

moonbells

Quote from: aquilegia on July 08, 2005, 11:09:50
OMG Speedy - I hope your friend is doing ok. Must've been a terrible shock.

She's OK now it seems.

It turns out that she was actually in the same carriage as the bomb on the train just leaving King's Cross. A very very lucky escape! Lord alone knows what she saw down there.

Speedy Mango.So glad to hear your friend is  OK. No one should have to go through trauma like that and I would just like to wish her peace of mind. Years ago (late fifties) I was on the last train out of Charing Cross after a very bad train crash. We were diverted to Deptford and had to walk home past the rescue scene to Catford where i lived at the time. Scenes like that stay with you for a long time. Regards Lorna.

Speedy - what can be said? I'm rather lost for words. Your poor friend. Give her lots of love and support.

And Lorna. again. Words fail me.

I do wish now that they would stop showing it over and over on the TV. It is playing right into the terrorists hands - they must be loving it having their 'triumph' plastered over the telly.  I think they should just report any new facts that come to light and thats it.  It can't help any people who were directly affected.  Even my 4 year old keeps asking 'why the train crashed'..

Yes, if there is news report it, but lets not give them the satisfaction of keep seeing their evil deeds. or at least show the normal things, Londoners carrying on , trains running. It hurt but didn't stop us.....that kind of thing.

Have just found out that someone  OH knows has just had it confirmed that his sister is amongst the people who were killed on the bus.  Her friend who was with her escaped with serious injuries but his sister was nowhere to be found in any of the hospitals so they were expecting the worst news but had to wait until last night for confirmation......there are no words to describe our feelings
Plottie

Plottie, our thoughts are with you and your OH's friend and his family along with everyone else who has suffered in this terrible happening.  There are no adequate words for a time like this.  Take care.

I am gutted plottie - I don't knw what to say...

Oh dear Plottie, how sad. All you can do is be there if they need you. What a tragedy.Seems to be more each day.

Despite a very worrying Thursday (two of my friends travel through London every day to work) I was lucky that no one I know lost their lives in Thursday's attack. But to remember those who were not so lucky I will be planting a fruit tree this week in rememberance of them and their families, it's the only positive thing I can think of doing. My heart goes out to those who were not as lucky as me.

How terrible for you to get this news. Our thoughts are with you and the friends family. Lets hope they can find these people and rid the world of the vermin that they are.. Take care. Lorna.

We had total chaos in Birmingham tonight, with a large part of the city centre evacuated. It seems to have been a false alarm; there have been reports of controlled explosions but I doubt it as I'd have heard the bangs from here.

QuoteHave we heard from Svea? I know she lives in London...

luckily, i was on holiday for the  last week and have just returned yesterday - horrible news to watch in hotel room i tell you - put a damper on the holiday for sure :(

immediate friends are ok but don't yet know about work collegues - tomorrow will tell (hopefully all good though)

luckily, the areas affected were not near us, nor do we use the tubes at all or the busses much. i am aware of course that this is not an option for a lot of people in london though...

svea

i wish all that have been affected by this terrible day all our love and thorts and hope that hey can find some hope in all off this in time asit is a slow long trip and all us other peeps can do is try and help and be there for them
keep safe
matt and family
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Plottie - how awful. My thoughts are with you and her family. And all the others affected.

Svea - glad to hear you're ok. I was worrying...

I know it would mean the terrorists win but this is another thing that's making me want to move far away from London.

I just can't help thinking about all those missing people. They must be gone, but if that was your loved one you can't help but hold up hope. just simply awful.

no one could blame you Aqui - all this talk by the media of 'not letting them win' is stupid really.  Win what?  If killing people and causing chaos, mayham fear and destruction is the aim then I am afraid they already have won.  I am scared and worried and wondering what kind of a world I have brought my son into.  Someone on the TV said the other day that we can't let it change the way we live but we will have to change some things - be more vigilant, better security in public places etc. or these criminals will continue to do these horrible acts and we will never know true peace of mind.

Robert - just found this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1525753,00.html

Makes you wonder if people are leaving things lying around on purpose to cause chaos or if they are just idiots.

Could be either but it was probably carelessness combined with police over-reaction. They evacuated about 30 000 people, and when you have that number, somebody's bound to forget something.

Plottie - sorry to hear your OH's friend has lost someone. How horrible not to know for all this time.

My friend's blog was picked up by the BBC. It's now at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4670099.stm, and makes for a harrowing read (reads from the bottom up).

Your friend is very brave Speedy - it is difficult to read but hopefully it will have helped her by getting ther thoughts out on 'paper'.  I hope she continues to find strength in friends and family.

Agree with Justy about that SPeedy Mango. But I just can't read anymore about it.

Had a bit of a scare getting off the train this morning - someone threw a little carrier bag of rubbish off the train just as the doors were closing. I legged it away from there. Fortunately it didn't explode.

Now I get irate enough about people dumping their rubbish, but after an event like last Thursday, you'd think people would be a little more conscious about their rubbish. But no. How naive of me.

I just hate this state of paranoia it's put me in. Every time someone gets off the train, I have to check in case they have left anything behind. I keep noticing all sorts of places where it would be so easy for a terrorist to leave a bomb. I think it is driving me slightly insane.

ANd part of me also believes it was a big plot that the government (or maybe the US government) were in on to distract us from what they were doing (or not doing) at G8. Well, afterall, they knew about September 11th...

(Oh dear - I've started to sound like a big paranoid conspiracy freak. Better shut up before they send for the men in white coats! ;))

Read the blog all the way through and felt incredibly moved and upset by the graphic details of it.  I can only imagine the trauma of having gone through something like that and the courage it must have taken to have got back onto a tube train.  My heart goes out to those families who have loved ones dead and missing, and to the survivors who still have those horrific images inside their heads. What a wicked waste. May the perpetrators be damned for their evil actions. busy_lizzie

Just plucked up the courage to read the blog and now having to fight back tears. Really puts things into perspective and makes me feel quite ashamed to feel fear on the tube. It was also really uplifting and beautiful. All I can think is it's probably a good job they were plunged into darkness. I cannot even bear to think about what they might have seen otherwise. Much love and respect to your friend Speedy.

Very moving Speedy, thank you for posting that.

You can't keep a good nation down.

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Coping with emergencies the British way: The nearest branch of Pret has sold out of chocolate cake.
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These terrorists are rubbish.

They'll be caught next week, having successfully demonstrated that the British react to terrorism with indifference. We grew up with it, you see. What with this being a civilised country, they will not receive the death penalty, but be locked up for the rest of their lives, to be regularly sodomised by other inmates while they slowly realise that their interpretation of their religion is a pile of old hokum. Whoops. Meanwhile, I'll be out in London, partying.
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On days like this, the music radio stations play sad music - if they play any music at all. I turned on the radio in the bathroom when I was taking my shower just now, and they were playing "One" by U2.
HAVEN'T WE SUFFERED ENOUGH?
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All these explosions are rather scary.
Don't suppose the French are that sore at losing the Olympics, are they?
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BBC Parliament internal email:
NEWSFLASH:
There has been a widespread outbreak of grumbling and tutting today in London, along with a large number of people going home instead of to work, with a certain amount of guilty pleasure. Sorry, bad guys. We've been bombed before, and we just adjust our day to account for it. This is London calling.
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It was just announced that the queen is deeply shocked and that it has been decided that the Congestion charge (a toll to use a car in London) will not be in place today - how I love the British.
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"I'd like to congratulate today's terrorists for achieving nothing but instilling a fierce patriotism back into the British Isles, creating a rather wide-spread rash of Blitz Spirit, and giving me a day off work.
I'm a bit pissed off that you nearly blew up some of my friends, but at the end of the day - you failed. We're still here, we're not scared of you."
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From the BBC website: statement from Al Qaeda:
"Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters".
Erm really... where? I think you will find that's a reaction to the winning the Olympics bid or perhaps just the effect Bush has on us when he visits?!
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When the news reporter said "Shopkeepers are opening their doors bringing out blankets and cups of tea" I just smiled. It's like yes. That's Britain for you. Tea solves everything.
You're a bit cold?
Tea.
Your boyfriend has just left you?
Tea.
You've just been told you've got cancer?
Tea.
Coordinated terrorist attack on the transport network bringing the city to a grinding halt?
TEA DAMMIT!
And if it's really serious, they may bring out the coffee. The Americans have their alert raised to red, we break out the coffee. That's for situations more serious than this of course. Like another England penalty shoot-out [in soccer].
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"It's hard to panic the British. They've dealt with the Blitz, the IRA, the Silurians, the Zarbi, the Daleks, the Cybermen..."
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"Terrorists -- Dude, London?! WTF were you thinking?! XRef: Blitz, IRA, Ru Paul."
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To quote an old Londoner who lived through the blitz and got caught up in the Canary Wharf explosion: "I've been blown up by a better class of bastard than this!"
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"We took on the Romans, the Saxons, the Danes, the French, William Wallace, the Black Plague, the Roundheads, the Great Fire, Napoleon, the Nazis, and the Blitz, and we're still here. You terrorists are bloody amateurs."
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"They're asking everyone to stay within the office."
"Oh. What about lunch?"
"Er..."
"We can go out for lunch, right?"
"No!"
"Well are you ordering pizza or something?"
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They did their worst, and they managed to disrupt our transport network and get fatalities in the low double figures. That happens on a fairly regular basis anyway, you twits. What's your next trick - a fiendish weather control device which makes it rain on a bank holiday weekend?"
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People have been trying to blow up bits of London for decades. Centuries, in fact. This one's nothing special. It's no different to any of the others. London's reaction to it is typified by my friend Jeff, who was actually *running* to catch the bus that was blown up.
"I went to Euston: went to the tube and there was a loud bang. and we were sent out! Then we were sent out of the station so I half ran to Tavistock Place to catch a bus to Victoria. And then it went bang, so I thought "b****r that"."
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From Metaquotes:
"Al Qaeda say: 'Britain is now burning with fear, terror and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters.' pregnant dog, please. Osama, you live in a f**k**g cave. You're like an evil Batman or something. No wonder you have a thing for blowing up commuters, because you will never commute because you live in a cave. You see transport, and you are filled with rage, because you? Live in a cave. You could try forming a political wing to... oh, wait, you can't because YOU LIVE IN A CAVE. thingy.

The BBC paused news coverage to show *Eastenders*. That'd be the nationwide fear, terror and panic, then."
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America says, "Let me get this straight. You've been trying for ten years to blow up an overinflated superpower run by the petty excuse for a mad cowboy... a country that takes three years to implement security systems meant to compensate for yesterday's incident... the country that invented irresponsible hysterical journalism... a country that has systematically managed to alienate everyone in the world... and you couldn't even do that... so you decided to take a crack at London? The place that has dealt with the IRA and the Blitz? The place that gets suspicious if it hasn't been bombed in a year? What were you thinking??? America is with you, London! Yeee-haw!"
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Israel says, "Let me get this straight. You've been trying for eighty years to blow up a country that's smaller than Switzerland. A country full of your own co-religionists, a country where every adult citizen under the age of 55 is a soldier on eleven months' leave, a country whose airline security puts James Bond to shame... and this challenge has somehow evaded you... so you decided to have a go at England? We've been dodging your shots since the 19-teens... they've been dodging your shots since the bloody Crusades! You think we've had practice putting our lives back together: meet the guys who've been doing it for a thousand years! You pathetic little morons! The Spanish Armada didn't faze the English, the Nazis didn't faze the English, and you think they're going to pay any attention to you? Ha! Israel is with you, England! Mamash sababa!"
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I echo everything that has been said here and will go one further//

TONY BLAIR is responsible for this, it is about time he should GO and GO now.. he knew the British people were against the war in Iraq... He knew that this day would come because of his meglamania.. I have no doubt as to to vile nature of those who carried out these attacks and my heart goes out to all those affected by this.. I am ashamed of our Prime Minister

this may not be popular with some of you here, but i dont care, I know how it feels to have a loved one taken away so brutally and will always voice my opinion.. shame on al-qeada and shame on tony blair...... I hold you both with utter contempt

enuff sed

ciaran

To me the real cowards are the politicians who hide behind their security while creating policies which ensure that other people get killed while they try to make capital out of it. Not that I have any sympathy for al-Quaida's perversion of Islam, don't get me wrong.

I completely agree, Robert.

hear hear Ozzy.  I at least have a clear concience that I tried to prevent him getting in again. 

I have been into the city today (Worcester) and the bins around the bus station are all taped up.  We are a sleepy little city but even I felt a prickle down my spine when I saw the bins.  It makes me feel no where is safe.

no one is, justy. a fact of life. i may be killed by a bus on the way home today. same difference to me :)
IMO, that is a little over the top (taping up bins) but there we are

It's not as over the top as evecuating 30 000 people from the centre of Birmngham because someone left a package on a bus.

During the late 80's and early 90's I worked in the West End of London and travelled daily by the Northern Line and Victoria line, and would hop on and off of buses and tubes during the week going here and there.  This was during the IRA palava so I could never throw any rubbish away whilst out because all bins were removed due to the threat of bombs being placed in them, and I would regularly have huge amounts of trouble getting into work or home from work due to a security scare, but I had to work, and it became a way of life.  Thankfully my dad was always home in time to come and rescue me from Stockwell or Victoria or tooting or wherever!

SSSSHHH they've forgotten about the bins.