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hi, i am new and wondered if anyone knows the most painless way to kill slugs..i don,t want to kill them but they eat everything..there are tons in the garden at night so if i picked them up and chucked them over the hedge would they be back again over the next days or weeks....or.. do  i have to kill them...i can,t bear the thought of them  in pain as they die..thanks

Hello jinita77!

Welcome to our world.

I suppose stamping on the snails must be one of the quickest ways to dispatch. However, not for the squeamish. Pellets are a no-no. They are definitely not quick and poison anything else that is unfortunate enough to eat the dying snail.

There is pretty good evidence that chucking the snails next door doesn't work, they will trudge back (as long as they've landed intact!).

Ever thought about beer traps? They drown, so can't be that painful - I suppose - pretty hard to imagine what the snail goes through in terms of pain.

Others will have their fave methods of dealing with them. My own philosophy is just to ignore then. I know I will not win, so don't worry about it. Apathy is my way of dealing with them ;D

Beer traps are probably most humane- i mean if you could choose a way of dying, drowning in beer would be my favourite ;)

I feel pretty much the same Jinita. I do not like to kill things (which is why I'm a vegetarian). And as a teetotal household I refuse to buy beer.

Chucking them over the fence doesn't work - they have a homing instinct.

The best way is to encourage thurshes, frogs, toads, hedgehogs etc to do the work for you. Have you got a pond? That will increase the amount of pest-eating wildlife in your garden/plot. Also put in a large stone for thrushes to use to smash the shells. I was so excited the first day I found a smashed shell in my garden!

A log pile or stone pile will provide space for frogs and toads to hide and also beetles, that will also eat slugs.

I'm toying with the idea of collecting all the slimey beasts and putting them in a large plastic box with the sides smeared with vaseline. That way wildlife will get an easy feasts!

Like David, I tend to ignore them in my garden. I put up barriers against them around susceptible crops (fleece pegged down works for most things and I start seedlings where possible indoors so they have a chance to grow before they are munched. If they have to be sown outside, I put jam jar/pop bottle cloches over the seeds/seedlings) and have given up growing delphiniums and any other ornamentals they are partial too.

I am also a vegetarian and do not like killing things.  I do use beer traps and I have also sunk a pond, have stones for thrushes and keep ground cover for ground beetles.  With snails at home, I painted them with Tippex and took them progressivley further away until the white ones stopped returning.

Just collect them all up until you have a few hundred

then put them in a cardboard box

and the wrap it in brown paper

then.....





Post them somewhere like Tasmania or just France would do ;D

Garden free of them, no killing done and slugs get free holiday in the sun somwhere ;D

Nevermind squeamish, a torch & a pair of scissors is what I use, Mwahahahaha

i just popped down the back garden to go get a cheeky bottle of red and......................bloody hell SLUGS everywhere. never seen so many. Must be the wonderful (ahem) weather here in south wales.!


i'm afraid slug rage took hold of me :-[ ;)

I recycle? collect them through the day and throw them on our conservoty flat roof for the birds.
My aunt would have a jam jar with half inch of salt in the bottom and a long pair of tweesers. Yes go out on slug patrol at night with torch collect in the jar with a screw top lid and when the jar was full pop them in the dustbin. Worked fine for her I like to feed the birds and they can see them on the roof.
oh well each to there own.

Cutting 'em in half is totally pain free..................................... for me anyway ;D

I put them in the dustbin.

Simple as that - then they go merrily away to help recycle at the landfill site where they can eat as much rubbish as they can and not my plants.
Course, this depends on me picking them up - which can be patchy as my poor delphiniums will testify. They got all the emerging shoots this year  :(

moonbells

I've been encouraging birds into my garden and thrushes love snails and I can hear them tap tapping to break the shells open so they can devour the plump mollusc inside.  I couldn't kill one myself as I am soft and would rather let the birds take them

If there was a slug equivalent of the rack and thumbscrews I'd use them without a qualm. I seem to be getting away with it so far this year; every day I go down to the plot expecting to find that they've been at the French beans and pumpkins,but  they haven't touched them yet. Bet they had the lot last night now I've said that!

I`ve just put a sign up...

        NO
      SLUGS
         OR
      SNAILS

that should keep them off ;D

worth a try Andy  ;D  ;D.


but if that doesn't work we'd recommend encouraging the birds and frogs to do the dirty deed for you. it works in our garden and hopefully it'll do the same on the allotment although so far we haven't had much trouble (bet that is famous last words....)

Never seen  toad or frog on plots? wonder if little pond would work?

They do appear in garden at home but if they get near the pond then the Koi get them. skin frogs and birds, rip feathers off and skin frogs so that they have fingers!!! Put lily`s in pond and woooooosh! gone. eaten,destroyed. maybe I shuld plant some Koi in the allotment :-\

Stamp on them as hard as you can then feed them to the chickens?

 :-[ not allowed chickens :(

Want a few but won`t let me :-[

or you could encourage mr hedgehog into the garden with a hedgehog box under a huge logpile?

You have no choice but to collect them and relocate them. You need a container with a lid, a rubber glove and a torch. Collect them after dark when conditions are damp and humid. Also place old kichen/bathroom tiles on the soil where they will hide during the day and check under them regularly. Take your slugs & snails some considerable distance away. Try to encourage, frogs, toads, birds, slow worms, hedgehogs etc

Don't sow seed directly in the ground. Raise plants to a reasonable size and they will withstand some slug & snail damage.

Raised beds with parallel wires run around the perimeter face connected to a 9v battery will deter slugs & snails for a whole season. Please take care not to form a short circuit with this method. The wires should be parallel extending the terminals around the bed and must not be be connected together as this will short circuit the battery. Tension the wire between nails hammered in at regular intervals and wrap the wire behind the head of the nail keeping it tensioned. Offset the position of nails on the top and bottom wires to avoid any possible contact between them.

A slug or snail attempting to cross the wires will bridge the extended terminals and closes the circuit getting a small zap so will not cross the barrier. Same as if you put your tongue on the terminals you get a small buzz so you can understanf why the slugs don't like it. I have found copper strips or pipe to be less effective than a 9v battery+wire and also more expensive.

Continue to collect  slugs from the bed and consider treating with nemaslug to deal with the smaller slugs and any eggs that might hatch. Alternatively push jam jars into the soil and place 4 or 5 pellets on the upturned glass. Place somes stone around the outside of the jar and cover with a tile such that the tile is slightly raised above the jar & pellets. Check & replace pellets throughout the season. You will use the absolute minimum of pellets which cannot be directly eaten by birds and will not wash or dissolve into the soil. The slugs will tend to remain hidden in the stones or go to ground after eating the pellets so minimal risk to birds. Use the new 'safe' pellets to further reduce any risk to other wildlife & pets. Once the problem is under control you will not be killing very many slugs since you are making it so difficult for them to re-populate the beds under cultivation. Keep the perimeter of the beds tidy and don't allow any leaves to reach over the electric barrier to the ground below. Beds should be lined or skirted with plastic that extends some way into the ground to prevent slugs coming up through the soil.

Slug control is a sub-hobby of gardening so enjoy it.

I thought Coffee was good for getting rid of slugs???

Beer traps would be my second prefered option

( first one would be to squash the little b*s*a*d* underfoot!!! )

At least if they're p*ssed they wouldn't / couldn't care...

Debs ( I love snails me -  NOT !! )

Waste good beer on slugs!! Outrageous :o
I go out at night with a torch and my trusty blow torch. The smell of seared flesh...can't beat it. I'm sure the birds prefer their slugs slightly roasted, like having flavoured crisps instead of plain ones ;D

Quote from: dingerbell on June 05, 2005, 11:44:24
Waste good beer on slugs!! Outrageous :o

Tescos Value Bitter, 2.5ish% and 90p for four cans - think again.  They drink what I refuse to drink.

I just bought our slugs some Bud. The local shop was selling off old bottles - OH is disgusted!!

Mine don't like Bud!! They prefer the cheapest bitter from the local offie! ;D

Have an untidy plot!!   Slugs 'n' snails like damp, cover and hidy holes so if you leave long grass, wood piles etc around the plot they will prefer that.    As an added bonus give them a larder by planting cheap seed you don't worry about losing for the slugs to munch.   Can be anything you like.  Not totally effective but does work and is about as humane as you can get.  Will also help encourage the predating wildlife so you gain all ways - oh,  and you get to drink the bud!!   Success all round  ;D

Quote from: Shoyu on June 05, 2005, 18:22:53
I just bought our slugs some Bud. The local shop was selling off old bottles - OH is disgusted!!

Wish mine liked (American) Bud - not fit for human consumption that stuff.

BUT.......why won't they eat my weeds?????!!!!  Plentiful and succulent  ;D

Aha! But if they ate your weeds then they probably wouldn't just appear and you'd have to buy them at an astronomical fee from a slug farmer!  ;D

Hehehehehe

How much time we gardeners spend dealing with slugs.  And the ethics of it all too..

I go for:

- beer traps (suicide by beer can't be wrong)
- collect them up a, put them in a bag and put them in the wheelie bin.  If they survive the bin man they'll help out at the dump
- a pond - but the only thing more annoying than finding a slug under a stone is finding a frog sitting quietly next to it.  Know your place! Eat the slug!
- resignation.  If my lettuces get eaten I won't starve.

Trillium

My favourite execution method (I have the death penalty for being a slug) is to put them on the concrete path and stamp, hard. Bits of slug spatter in all directions and they get a free ride straight to slug hell. I hope it's hot.

I set out a beer trap next to the house... but the slugs and snails don't seem to be getting far enough to enjoy the beer. We have raccoons and possums roaming here at night eating dry catfood and have been supplementing their diets with escargo. Beats putting out slugbait.
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Three cheers for Red Clanger - B*d is a rude word in my house!

My ma used to collect the slugs at night and flush them down the outside loo. Snails were exempt from this cruel treatment though. Not sure how painful this was for the slimies.

Throwing the slugs and snails over the fence / onto your neighbouring lottie plot is a waste a time as they do return, and killing any creature is barbaric. So as a compromise, get out a pair of scissors and cut off their eyes. Then throw them onto someone else's plot / garden. That's got to work, surely.  ;D ::) :P