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Mrs Ava · « **on:** January 04, 2006, 18:45:43 »

is it late winter?

Some of my seed packs say to sow in late winter....well, could they be more specific??

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2006, 18:50:03 »

Maybe february? What needs sowing then?

terrace max · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2006, 19:03:46 »

March 1st ? (Three weeks left)

adam04 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2006, 20:22:02 »

Pst. TM, turn your calender back a month, it will make more sense then...

terrace max · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2006, 20:39:53 »

Lol! No, I meant on 1/3/06 there will be 3 weeks of winter left...?

amanda21 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2006, 21:53:44 »

I know calendars and moons probably don't agree with me but as far as I am concerned March is early spring 8) ........ and I can't and won't still think of it as winter :(. I won't - do you hear!!! ;)

moonbells · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2006, 22:09:08 »

In the RHS veg book I have it divides up the year as
Jan mid-winter
Feb late winter
Mar early spring
Apr mid-spring
May late spring
Jun early summer
Jul mid-summer
Aug late summer
Sep early autumn
Oct mid-autumn
Nov late autumn
Dec early winter

moonbells

Mrs Ava · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2006, 23:38:02 »

Feb it is then, ta Moonbells. I agree with you Amanda, winter is fine up until new year, but then I want to get back out and start things a-growing!

Now, what was it I looked at......red broad beans, carrots and peas Robert.

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2006, 23:40:57 »

March is when the bees move onto willow and start producing brood in earnest; that has to be spring!

Derekthefox · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2006, 08:57:41 »

I agree with late Feb ...

Jesse · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2006, 10:09:41 »

Quote from: amanda21 on January 04, 2006, 21:53:44

I know calendars and moons probably don't agree with me but as far as I am concerned March is early spring 8) ........ and I can't and won't still think of it as winter :(. I won't - do you hear!!! ;)

:D exactly how I feel, 1st of March is the first day of spring in my opinion, and it can't come soon enough for me! :)

amphibian · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2006, 15:46:31 »

I view the seasons like this.

Winter:

December
January
February

Spring:

March
April
May

Summer:

June
July
August

Autumn

September
October
November.

Officially it is:

Winter: 21st December-21st March
Spring: 21st March-21st June
Summer: 21st June-21st September
Autumn: 21st September-21st December

I would define the first 3 weeks of a season as early and the last three weeks as late.

Garden Manager · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2006, 18:40:02 »

I'd tend to agree with amphibian, particularly on the 'official' dates, which are based on the solar calendar and not the moon (ie the dates are those of either solstices or equinoxes).

Good enough as a rule of thumb anyway and gives you an idea of the light available for growing plants. However dont just rely on what the calendar says or what the seed packet says. When you do things also depends on the weather conditions. For example it might be late winter and the seed packet says 'sow late winter', but if the soil is soaking wet or it is freezing cold, there is no eathly point in sowing is there? The seed will just rot or freeze to death.

Need i say more?

Robert_Brenchley · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2006, 19:05:02 »

Follow the weather not the calendar; that's a mistake I've made too often. A neighbour of mine told me he never sows seed until the soil temperature reaches 45 F; I may get a soil thermometer and try his method.

deboydoyd · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2006, 21:48:57 »

My father-in-law told me last week, don't rush - never plant anything out until you're gardening in a T-shirt.

Derekthefox · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2006, 08:39:10 »

Emma, I have just noticed you said RED broad beans, where do you get these, and are they a good cropper?

moonbells · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2006, 23:08:17 »

Quote from: deboydoyd on January 05, 2006, 21:48:57

My father-in-law told me last week, don't rush - never plant anything out until you're gardening in a T-shirt.

I'd be stuffed then. I'm one of those people who wears fleeces 5/6 of the year then complains bitterly it's too hot in July and August ::)!

I go with the 'If you can kneel down and you don't want to scream' temperature gauging.

moonbells

Mrs Ava · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2006, 23:28:59 »

I bought these whilst in Devon Derek, so no idea if they are good croppers. Can't remember off hand the seed merchant - will let you know, but I do remember on the packet it reakons the flavour is the best! As it is only me that eats them, I figured I might as well try something a little different.

redimp · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2006, 14:52:54 »

My view:

Winter starts on the 21st December oand runs unitl 20th March
Spring starts on 21st March and runs until the 20th June
Summer starts on 21st June and runs until 20th September
Autumn starts on 21st September and runs until 20th December

Garden Manager · « **Reply #19 on:** January 07, 2006, 16:38:20 »

Acording to Mr Titchmarsh on 'the Gardeners Year', early spring starts in late feb or early march depending on whether you are in the north or the south.

I can see the reasoning. the start of spring is reckoned by some to be when the archetypal spring flowers come up (daffs etc). As 2005 showed though, you can still have wintry weather in early march, so I think i will consider mid to late march as when spring proper starts. Which of course fits in with the 'official' or 'solar' seasons, (21st March, the spring equinox).

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