Thanks All. No horses' heads, crows beaks or pigs trotters today, thank goodness!! ;D Was really anxious when got there though!! Was one nasty surprise though......OH deciding he knew better than polytunnel peeps how to construct pts.....he didn't by the way!! As for Undercarriage Plan, Tel, bit long winded but - Couldn't find username not taken on E-bay, OH suggested Undercarriage as he likes planes and me plants cos of obvious!! Anyway, on joining here, used Undercarriage Plants again, firstly thought for password not user name, not til got on here realized there'd only been enough room for Undercarriage Plan...... ::) ::) ::) Hence signing off as Lottie!!! ;D