All I can tell you BB is, I received them as a gift from my sis who traded seeds with a fella in Israel. I think it was Tenuse, or it may have been Mystic who found some info on them where it recommended the seeds be soaked for a couple of days, then wrapped in wet tissue, put inside a jar and left in the fridge for 3 months. Well, that is exactly what I did, and I planted the seeds out a couple of weeks ago. I will be going down the greenhouse after lunch and will examine the tray closely to see if anything has sprouted yet. As I understand it, they are slow growing and make a tree kinda like an olive tree. I will give anything a go me! :o