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Title: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 09, 2005, 23:09:03
 :)Hi every one,if you want to see a allotment plot that's made from at least 9,000 waste plastic containers, and a lot of unwanted wooden pallets. Please take a look a my own website www.recycling.moonfruit.com there you will see lots of photo proof of what I have done,and the way I do things. Designed by me to help save lives and to also help to reduce some of our waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets going in to landfill sites. To find out more please post here. If you are interested in recycling and saving lives too. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: ken (69) on March 10, 2005, 09:12:07
Couldn't view your site, John, something to do with Active x and this computer security system, but am heavy into recycling..what's that phrase..re-use,recycle, don't buy in the first place.Figure my dry  bin will need emptying every 6 months.PS what do I do with one litre waxed milk cartons,complete with re-sealable flip lid?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: clairenpaul on March 11, 2005, 09:09:43
We have kerbside recycling for cans, bottles, clothing etc but not plastic although our council do provide facilities for recycling plastic bottles etc at the local 'tip' - just defeats the object having to drive there to take them.
 We manage to use most of them for something. One of our dogs is expert plastic bottle crusher (2year old german shep born with urge to collect and crush pop bottles etc) - he even finds them while we're out walking and chrunches them flat so at least any spares don't take up much room storing them!! May have to hire him out...
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Mrs Ava on March 11, 2005, 12:41:41
Wow! Great site and very very interesting!  I cut my plassy milk polybottles up into plant labels.  Ava uses them as nut/bolt/screw/nail containers in the garage with the tops cut off ala Tommy Walshe.  Small plassy bottles and the tops from my fabric softner all go down to the plot as cane covers to save my eyes.  Plastic veggie trays that things like mushrooms come in end up in the greenhouse as seed trays, seed tray covers or pot holders.  I hate throwing away plastic  and polystyrene and try to use it as much as possible before it ends up in the bin.  Polystyrene goes in the bottom of my pots as 'crocks'.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: moonbells on March 11, 2005, 21:42:52
I guess I'm lucky where I am, as there's a mini-recycling centre by the gates of the allotments so any plastic or glass bottles get popped in as I go for a dig!
We also have kerbside paper and glass, and there's an aluminium can bank at work so I never need to make special journeys to recycle. I think this is how it should be.

I recycle every scrap of card or paper that doesn't have personal data on (they get burnt), compost all the veg matter, so I reckon we've got the household throwaway rubbish down to half a sack a week now.

moonbells
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: North Country Boy on March 18, 2005, 01:08:20
Ive recycled about 20 used pallets this week, bl**dy hard work it was seperating them but i managed it. Now have a lovely level, if not slightly wonky, pallet fence to stop next plots cockerals running a mock on my plot.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 18, 2005, 14:06:54
Hi North Country Boy. It's nice to know that there is someone else re-using unwanted wooden pallets in a practical way to build a fence around their allotment plot.
But in Greenwhich S E London. The Parks and Open spaces people say that no allotment plot should have a fence going round it. Even though I have visited some allotment plot sites which have got the large tennis court wiring  and metal post cemented into the ground and what looks like a chalet built on the plot too. The reason I was allowed to have my uprights on my pallet sections was because I told the council they were part of my system for growing things from being on the base to being used higher up.
This I had to fight for and won against all the objections made by other allotment plot holders,who said that they did not agree with what I was doing,and the way I was doing it. To the point of telling me to my face that they wanted me off my rented allotment plot as I was not using the land for what it was intended for,even though they will quite happly use the edges of my pallet section to scrape the mud of their boots. Which of course I do not have to do. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: North Country Boy on March 19, 2005, 11:00:27
Sorry to hear about that JRP, my allotments allow any sized fence as long as the committee can see into it. I have a pallet high fence with some plastic meshing going up another 3 foot, to stop my chickens straying.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 19, 2005, 23:03:29
 :)My ideas on how to re-use plastic containers of many shapes and sizes to scare birds away,if you are trying to protect your crops.
To do this you can use any plastic container with a screw on cap,this is used as a pivoting device,putting into or through canes of different lengths and sizes. Which I will now tell you how to do,to add to what's already being made by gardeners now to scare birds away.
(1) First choose your plastic container with a screw on cap.
(2) Then you decide what type of pivoting device you want to make for example. One that pivots in a upright position all the time or one that varies on turning.
My basic one to make is a container with it's bottom cut completely off,with 4 or 8 holes made in it 2 on each side in a straight line,big enough for your bean cane end to pass through. Made with a pointed tool of some sort,for example a phillips screwdriver. Putting the cane end through first at the thinner end until you have the length you want sticking out on each side of your container. You do this 2 or 4 times,ending up with what looks a aerial device,when it's put on top of another garden bean cane with the fatter end stuck in the ground. You should now have a pivoting container device spinning on top of your cane in contact with the inside of your container cap,and in-between the 2 or 4 sections of wood you can see from the bottom ,forming a trap area so that the pivoting device does not come off in the wind.
(3)The next thing to do is to decide what you are going to have hanging from your cane arms sticking out from your pivoting container device. Such as a number of containers tied in rows done so they bang together or they can be made from cans or containers will do the same thing. The cans have string tied on the ring pull bit or containers have a hole made in the middle of the screw on cap,to then have a length of string passed through it,with a large knot at one end to stop it pulling through,also tied on in rows. Or you can use old plastic shopping bags cut in half to act like a flag does in the wind. Cutting lots of strips in each bag section first to make even more noise in the wind,and movement.
(4) If you want to protect higher and lower crops at the same time on each turn,just simply make holes in the container at the angle that you need,instead of straight across. Remembering that you must have all your canes at equal distance apart on each side of your container so that it does not bang against the wood on the inside of your container,which of course will happen a bit when the wind trys to pass your long or short arms of cane with what ever you have hanging down from them,remembering to protect your self from the cane ends by putting something like another container or can over them to stop you poking your eyes out.
My pivoting container device can be also used at any height and it should work in the slightist of wind too. Which all of my many pivoting containers did,when I covered my whole allotment plot area with them,to show others what I made they could make too.
If you have any troubles making my bird scarer please post here. I will try to put some photo proof of what I have made in the past on to my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,even though I don't need them my self. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 20, 2005, 22:28:55
 :(It's a sad day for me?
Another sad day for me and my life saving recycling ideas. Why. Because after speaking to a very understanding man going by the name of Mr Huw Slipper who helps to make the Paul O'Grady show on ITV. He had to inform me that my allotment plot was not the type of allotment plot that they were looking for. It was not bizarre enough even though my allotment plot is made completely from waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets too. With a themed approach to no digging gardening,as I only use 3 tools. A sharp knife,a crowbar,and a claw-hammer to make my transportable system work.
The shame part was he said that he could not get onto my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,because it was so advanced compared to the ITV one. But what he did say if they ever did a bit about recycling he would contact me,and then put the phone down. This was after me trying to tell him all about what I was doing and the way I was doing it.
Which if he had got to see my website I would not have had to say so much in the short amount of time he had to listen to me.
Which I'm sure won't be a waste of time at the end of the day. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: NattyEm on March 24, 2005, 16:01:15
Thats a shame John, I find your gardening way innvovative and interesting as well as unusal and I'm sure lots of people would be interested in seeing it.  I also had no problems looking at your website, although reading some of the text over images is extremely difficult.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 27, 2005, 22:09:55
 :)My Transportable recycling system works.
A message to those who want to know?
The reson why I bother to re-use recycle plastic containers and wooden pallets are. About 10 years ago I decided to re-use my rubbish to make things as a inventor for proto types,which I have a filed patent for,but I can't afford to take it any further. So I decided to invent something which any one can make,to help reduce waste plastic containers of all shapes and sizes going into landfill sites,along with unwanted wooden pallets too,which are thrown away every day,which the Government backs and the borough Council do too if there is money involved.
But because my ideas are new,and there is no money involved,I'm struggling to get people to use them,even though my main aim is to help save lives,not in this country so much but in the third world. Which if you have read any thing about me is what I'm trying to do in different ways,growing food to eat is just one way that works for me,which I thought I would share with the rest of the world,which money can't buy as I'm offering it for free to any one who wants to make my simple transportable system,whether it's in the UK or any where else,as it's made from rubbish.
The simple concept  of my transportable system is,rows of plastic milk containers on a carrying support made from wood,which is passed through the handle space of each container which are all upside down and cut around the bottom faceing away from each other on oppsite sides,4 containers being the smallist amount to self stand,10 being the amount I use as my base main containers. In them you can put,the same size container again with some compost in or a smaller cut milk container with a bottomless clear plastic bottle inside that,which you put compost or soil in,and what ever you decide to grow.
At this point I would like to say to you all. What you see in the way of photo proof on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,I have grown and eaten with my family and friends,which I've also grown with very little gardening knowledge my self,So if I can feed my self any one can. I say to you all please don't knock something until you have at least tried it out,remembering if you do decide to stop the way I do things,it can all be carried away and recycled again. I hope this message has made the picture clearer for some of you. If we all do our bit it will make a difference to our world. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 28, 2005, 14:05:28
Rubbish going into our landfill sites?
The only way I believe you will ever stop most of our rubbish going into landfill sites,is to involve money. Be it on how much you recycle on a small or large scale your self. Which would mean instead of us paying to have our recyclable rubbish taken away,we would get some money back. Like they did years ago on glass bottles as they were of value,because they can be cleaned and re-used again and again until they get broken,unlike a plastic bottle was made to last for years.
With this in mined if we don't stop it now,it will mean for example starting from to day. If I bought say one plastic container which was biodegradable and it took 1 year to decompose,and I did this every day for 365 days adding one day to my 365 which my first one would take to decompose. Now multiply that by millions each day,and then add the first 365 years onto,to days plastic container. I think you will agree with me that we are wasting our time on this earth if we don't do something now,in what ever way we can. If ever a bomb was dropped on our landfill sites it would burn so much the sky would turn black and the air to poison. Which could happen like it did years ago. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 03, 2005, 22:51:22
 :)How to make my simple BIRD FEEDER?
Take any size plastic bottle with a screw on cap,make a hole in the middle of the cap to pass a length of string through,next tie a large knot at one end to stop it pulling through. Next cut 2 or more upside down letter (T) in your bottle oppsite each other,fold inwards to leave a triangle shape with the inner folds nearly touching each other,also fold in the bottom straight bit so the birds don't hurt their feet. Also make some holes in the base to let any rain water out. Fill from the top with bird seeds or nuts and tie up.
Now wait to see the small birds feed,letting the bigger birds pick up what's dropped. To see other things I've made from rubbish please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com , it won't be a waste of your time. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on April 08, 2005, 18:49:03
9,000 waste plastic containers
All those bottles- you must drink a lot of fizzy! I bet your dentist hates recycling! ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 12, 2005, 22:32:23
 :)GOOD NEWS?
SEE ME, JRP. RECYCLING ON TV BBC2 AT 1-30 pm
13-4-2005 ( WORKING LUNCH ) PROGRAMME.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on April 14, 2005, 08:05:08
:)GOOD NEWS?
SEE ME, JRP. RECYCLING ON TV BBC2 AT 1-30 pm
13-4-2005 ( WORKING LUNCH ) PROGRAMME.

 >:( D amn  >:( I missed it  ::) my own stupid fault, ::) forgot to put clocks forward on my VCR :'( been wondering why I've been taping the wrong programmes of late :-[

Don't spose we will get a chance to see a repeat will we? ??? (Although Auntie Beeb is famous for that :o)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: SEDUM on April 16, 2005, 23:58:49
"my allotment plot was not the type of allotment plot that they were looking for. It was not bizarre enough"

Not wanting to be negative about that show, but they would not be interested in an earnestly maintained plot.  They are looking for wacky "ha-ha, ain't Brits crazy!" stuff.  It's an afternoon entertainment show, with no time for consience-rousing journalism.

On the subject of recycling - our council has just stopped collecting cardboard from door-to-door, saying that previous collections were "a communication failure" between collection teams...  Instead they suggest people get into their cars and drive several miles to the recycling centres (run by the same business that won't collect the stuff from my door - where's the eco-sense in that?)  Having said that, the centre does recycle corrugated cardboard and plastic - which door-to-door collections never handled.

For my part I'm encouraging the immediate neighbours to pool together cardboard and plastic to be taken en masse to the recycling centre.  I put all raw veg scraps in my homemade compost heaps, with occasional bits of cardboard.  My rubbbish bin has only used cling film in it and meat scraps (what can ya do with that?) I think :-\

I made old pallets into window boxes a few years ago.  It's a bugger to get the nails out - ended up knocking them through instead.

Garden waste, woody stuff gets put into one of two piles in the garden - fine stuff that birds will rummage through to build their nests with and loggy stuff I add to a habitat pile in the wild section of the back garden.

My partner leaves packaging at the tills when he goes shopping - apparently it's a german habit - most shops don't raise a hair to it and maybe, just maybe the manufacturers will cut back on their packaging.  Why put toothpaste in a carton, when it's already in a sealed tube?  Tubes of acrylic/watercolour/oil paint don't come in a carton, do they now?

Art
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Ceri on April 17, 2005, 07:16:25
I try very hard not to have any plastic containers as I think the most important word of the mantra "reduce, reuse, recycle" is the first one and so often overlooked.

I try as much as possible not to buy things that come in plastic bottles for example:.  Luckily we have a milkman, and if we run out our local shop does milk in returnable bottles and I use 'solid' shampoo.  When I have to I try and buy the biggest size presuming the ratio of plastic to product is better.

I love the idea of leaving excess packaging behind and intend to start right now!  My local supermarkets have recycling points for their carrier bags, why couldn't they for packaging as well?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on April 17, 2005, 07:28:38
My partner leaves packaging at the tills when he goes shopping - apparently it's a german habit - most shops don't raise a hair to it and maybe, just maybe the manufacturers will cut back on their packaging. 

 ;D Just picturing the traffic jambs in Asda on a busy Saturday when the cashier says "Would you like someone to help with the de-packaging Sir?" ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: BAGGY on April 17, 2005, 14:14:22
I am anti-carrier bag at the mo.  It's my latest thing.  I bought a hot pastie for lunch last week and they put it in a serviette, in a paper bag and then in a small carrier bag.  When I gave the carrier back they looked horrified as if it had been contaminated with something nasty.  I now have a couple of nylon shopping bags which scrunch up in my handbag for supermarket trips.  Also wilkos etc do the large bags for 50p that I take for my 'big' shop where as we used to get loads of carriers.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 01, 2005, 22:09:43
 :)Good News,I'm going to be on SKY TV in the future.
After me being on BBC 2 just by chance,I'm now going to be on SKY TV as part of a documentary,all about suburban Gardening,after already being interviewed and filmed too the other day by the SKY programme makers. I'm also hopeing to be filmed again at Greenwich Park SE10 on the 5-June 2005,where I will be exhibiting my very simple to make transportable recycling system off,as part of a event celebrating World Environment Day. Which is also part of the London Green Lifestyle Show. Which I think will be a great day for all involved,and for those who come to see the exhibitions,produce and entertainment too. Why not come and say hello to me and see my system on a smaller scale which I CAN ?YOU CAN ? make too if your interseted in re-using rubbish,and saving lives too like me. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 29, 2005, 22:03:35
 :)My website looks better now?
To every one who has visited my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com in the past,I have changed a few things to make it look better,I hope you agree. John.JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 29, 2005, 23:09:02
;D I agree  ;D much easier on the eye, ;) well done ;)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: caz 406 on May 30, 2005, 19:48:20
Didn't see it before but have just looked and it's great  :) Great idea to plant things in plastic containers. Is it worth contacting people like Lenny Henry who pioneer to "make poverty history" to see if they can help with developing your ideas?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on May 30, 2005, 21:15:47
Didn't see it before but have just looked and it's great  :) Great idea to plant things in plastic containers. Is it worth contacting people like Lenny Henry who pioneer to "make poverty history" to see if they can help with developing your ideas?

I think you will find JRP has been in touch with a lot of famous names linked to charity but it fell on deaf ears, ::) even the likes of Bob Geldof, take a look, you must scroll down to "No help from"
http://www.recycling.moonfruit.com/
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: gavin on June 11, 2005, 17:13:19
Didn't see it before but have just looked and it's great  :) Great idea to plant things in plastic containers. Is it worth contacting people like Lenny Henry who pioneer to "make poverty history" to see if they can help with developing your ideas?

I think you will find JRP has been in touch with a lot of famous names linked to charity but it fell on deaf ears, ::) even the likes of Bob Geldof, take a look, you must scroll down to "No help from"
http://www.recycling.moonfruit.com/

Perhaps they're not that keen on airlifting used pallets and plastic bottles (OUR land-fill problem ::) ) to another part of our planet - which just might have a more realistic perspective on priorities?  :)

All best - Gavin

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: carrot-cruncher on June 12, 2005, 23:10:10
"my allotment plot was not the type of allotment plot that they were looking for. It was not bizarre enough"



Art

Why do the TV companies need bizarre???!!!!!   Do they think all people who have allotments are freaks!!!!!!

Before I throw anything away I always look at it's recycling potential.   Some of things I do so far to recycle:

1.   I get pallets from local companies which are being turned into raised beds on plot.   
2.   Two litre fizzy drink bottles become cloches
3.   Large milk cartons become finials, so too do drink cans
4.   Water from my veg steamer when cool is given to my plants in the back yard, so too is the water used to boil eggs.
5.   Pot noodle pots, yoghurt pots, used drink cups from work (free & unlimited) make excellant plant pots.  ice cream containers, marg cartons etc.   You name it I can most likely use it.
6.   A pair of old wellies are happily supporting surfinias and trailing fuschia (winston churchill)
7.   I have started walking the mile to my local supermarket for my "big" shop.   I have a large knapsack for my shopping plus I can carry one bag per hand so it also limits what I can buy.   I get some exercise & I'm not using the car.
8.   Any journey under three miles I now either walk, cycle or use the bus.

CC
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 25, 2005, 22:05:56
 :)Hi Carrot Crunch,it's nice to know there are other people doing their own thing to help reduce some of our waste going into landfill sites in the uk. Keep up the good work. Please take a look at my website,if you haven't ready done so, www.recycling.moonfruit.com as you already re-use plastic containers and wooden pallets to grow things. Which you may find of interest to you.  John. JRP. 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: PeteA on July 02, 2005, 08:37:52
My compost bins, raised beds and my shed were all constructed from material gathered from skips. I got all my tools from the local tip.

For those interested in recycling as much as possible search for Freecycle on the web. I have got rid of surplus paint, wallpaper etc and acquired a water butt by this method.

Pete
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 02, 2005, 16:55:53
 :)Hi every one who knows about me,now is the time to please tell the world on my behalf that there is a system that works,which can help in the fight against world poverty. To those who think I'm wasting my time on trying to save lives and reduce waste too,you are very much in the minority,as there are far more people who do care about others,who want to do their bit to help make poverty history in some way,like Sir Bob Geldof for example he is just one person out of thousands who won't give up like me,no matter what you say,if we can save just one life,it's got to be worth it.
To those who would like to know,I will be on TV again on the 6 January 2006 SKY one. It's all about the Secret Life of Suburbia made by Shine TV for SKY TV. filmed in June this year 2005. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: felicitysky on July 21, 2005, 15:24:24
Hi all. I am just about to start a local recycling campaign to try and get my local council to recycle plastics and just wondered what methods "Wardy" had used. To everyone else, please don't give up, if your local council doesn't recycle certain materials such as plastics keep on writing to them, contact your local Mp, try and get as many people in you area to write to them as well. If you have time do a petition, set up a stall, what about writing to good old Blair, if enough people do that perhaps he would consider enforced recycling. If you have the time and ambition a self run recycling initiative could be set up in your area, there is financial assistance available. The following websites may be useful: www.cred.rswt.org, http://www.campaignstrategy.org/. Good luck and please reply to let me know what methods you have used etc. Thanks
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 02, 2005, 22:26:58
 :(Another month gone by?
Hi every one who would like to know what I've been doing since I last posted. I've been showing some old folk the way I grow things with the help of AGE CONCERN on a voluntary basis,with 5 more community complex associations to visit in the ELTHAM LONDON SE9 area,which I hope will help spread the word about the way I re-use plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets to grow things.
I,ve also been harvesting my peas,broad beans,runner beans,french beans,potatoes,lettuces,and my strawberries to name a few,with still lots more crops to pick,for example 150 tomato plants in 3 sections on my half plot,which are Money Maker,Ailsa Craige,and Garden Delight,which are now getting plenty of water they need due to the rain we are having,which does not stop me from going onto my plot because nothing is grown in the ground.
That's why I can carry 5 rows of my containers with their crops in with me to show every one,in the boot of my car,to then put them all back where they came from at the end of the day,after they have been exhibited in doors or out side to show just how much you can grow in such a small space if you want to.
By the way has any body tried my way of doing things yet? To know what you have been reading about please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,to make photos larger please click on them.Thank you. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: KevB on August 31, 2005, 16:49:50
I've decided to join in with recycling and in future will not empty my Norton Protected Recycle Bin !! Hope this helps!!! :) :) ;) you have to have a laugh as well.
Kev
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on August 31, 2005, 19:09:19
i dont see how this works: can someone explain. to me saving pallets mean that companys have to buy more timber for new ones so they have to grow and cut dwon trees, not really eco friendly, Also by not recycling bottles more oil has to be mined for more plastic, again wheres the good in that??

Also the soil underneath, wasted! some please explain this concept to me, and what does it have to do with the third world?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on August 31, 2005, 20:33:55
Okay from the top
Wooden pallets are becoming obsolete- plastic ones are ever more common. More timber is taken from forests- not necessarily ones that wont bother to plant new trees, so quite possibly a help to the forestry industry espec if in britain for ours is the worst in europe.
Does your council have plastic recycling facilities- mine sure doesnt- im afraid my plastic is reused or binned. And reusing is in many ways better than recycling as it bypasses processing which is expensive and hard to come by.
JRP,s allotment is a demonstration of how poor soils can be put to good use- using containers reduces water consumption and means that compost nutrients are concentrated to the plant rather than washed below the first foot of soil. In the third world water and soil are scarce and poor, and the only hope of eradicating world poverty is to have poor countries feeding themselves and trading food within their economy. Here in scotland i dont need to conserve so much water as the rain will water my plants and my soil is rather rich, as JRP's probably is too, but he has chosen to replicate a would be veg garden for high drought, poor soil areas.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on August 31, 2005, 21:34:41
No Adam, you save pallets that are in your country (saves you flying them out) that are destined to be destroyed, you can’t recycle plastic milk bottles but you can reuse them and scrape some of the arid soil off of the land, place it in the plastic bottle and tend to the seed you are growing with the minimum amount of water.

I see nothing wrong with that idea, I believe the pallets are supports for the bottles? But I have no doubt that people who are desperate for food would think (or could be taught) of other ways of supporting these bottles and if there was a shortage, what better way to recycle than to send them by air ,land or sea? (Light as a feather)

I really don’t understand why people knock new ideas particularly ideas that are designed to help people who are suffering.

Might be a good idea to rethink where you will be throwing your next bit of spare cash?

http://www.oxfam.org.uk/


P.S. Well said Mac
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on August 31, 2005, 21:40:52
Yeh you younguns have plenty of disposable income

How about adopt-a-mac? :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on August 31, 2005, 21:45:14
our local council has had plastic recycling bins at every home for at least 8 years also previously rthere were hge bins every mile or so where you could put them, also on the pallet thing to be honest i havnt seen many plastic pallets, and there people who use pallets alot ho i knwo dont seem to ever use plastic ones.

ok, i do kind of understand this but where are third world countries meant to get 9,000 plastic bottles per family? even town?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on August 31, 2005, 21:47:02
you can’t recycle plastic milk bottles

who said that, why not, everyone i know recycles theres.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on August 31, 2005, 21:56:41
It all depends on how rubbish your council is at rubbish.
I have no recycling bins, and none as often as a mile or so apart ??? The percentage of plastics that we can recycle in the uk is ridiculously small, so reusig is definitely a better option for all concerned
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on August 31, 2005, 22:11:42
our local council has had plastic recycling bins at every home for at least 8 years also previously rthere were hge bins every mile or so where you could put them, also on the pallet thing to be honest i havnt seen many plastic pallets, and there people who use pallets alot ho i knwo dont seem to ever use plastic ones.

ok, i do kind of understand this but where are third world countries meant to get 9,000 plastic bottles per family? even town?

It should have read "we don't recycle plastic milk bottles" (rubbish council). Can't understand your post on plastic pallets? ??? and your spelling is atrocious ::)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on August 31, 2005, 22:17:20
he he, my speelin is ok when i put my mind to it, but then i lose track of what im saying and its all down hill after that....

on the pallets, i know a few people in trades that use pallets day in day out, building, warehousing etc, but none of them use plastic pallets often at all, they all use wooden ones.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on August 31, 2005, 22:23:58
::) What are you on Adam ??? I don't know where you dreamt up the plastic pallets ???
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on August 31, 2005, 22:33:40
Ok i mentioned the plastic pallets- i have it on good authority that certain businesses are changing to them.

And adam how will you get a level english with spelling like that? ::)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on August 31, 2005, 22:47:07
i CAN do it when i try, just takes effort trying.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: jennym on September 01, 2005, 00:06:06
My partner leaves packaging at the tills when he goes shopping - apparently it's a german habit - most shops don't raise a hair to it and maybe, just maybe the manufacturers will cut back on their packaging. 

 ;D Just picturing the traffic jambs in Asda on a busy Saturday when the cashier says "Would you like someone to help with the de-packaging Sir?" ;D ;D ;D

Blush: I unwrap stuff at supermarkets too. People look at me as if I'm mad. My pet hate at present is Mr.Kipling's Cherry Bakewell tarts. Count the packaging.....
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Roy Bham UK on September 01, 2005, 07:09:14
My missus will always check her magazines for ad-paraphernalia and shake them out and leave them on the shelf, I prefer to return junk that comes through the post to whoever kindly sends me a return envelope :o :-[ ;D :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Multiveg on September 15, 2005, 13:12:40
My hubby unfortunately is a throw away type of person - I still remove glass bottles and drinks cans from the rubbish and set aside for recycling collection.

BTW - there is an uproar in parts of Conwy - they are going to collect rubbish fortnightly - not sure how often they are going to collect recycling, but they want to increase the amount of stuff recycled...
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: kentishchloe on September 19, 2005, 10:42:59
Hi recyclers - glad to hear you're all so green-minded :)

For my part, as well as recycling the obvious - paper, glass,plastic ets... my major contribution to reducing landfill is.....  Cloth Nappies.
Each baby in this country uses enough disposable nappies to fill a skip or twelve large wheelie bins every year.  When you consider that these don't degrade at all and that many children aren't potty trained until 3 yrs old, that's a whole lotta landfill.
Modern cloth nappies are great - they come in so many funky colours & designs these days- my 12 month old son has NEVER been in a disposable - we've even been camping this year. 

This is my own personal passion - i am pretty active in promoting the use of cloth nappies - just thought i'd share with y'all.  Ta for listening x
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 21, 2005, 22:59:57
TREE TOP FARMING.
I've just put forward my ideas on how I would use my system of growing things to start tree top farming in CANADA. As I have a e-mail friend called George who is interested in doing so,as he lives surrounded by forest with no room to grow things in the ground,because of the roots and not a lot of light getting to the lower area in-between the trees,plus the cold weather condistions are a big problem too,but he his going to try my way of doing things as I grow nothing in the ground it's self,which could help the people living in the rain forest too,where they are cutting down thousands of trees so they can grow things to eat and other things too. With this in mind I'm now going to tell you what I told George as you might find it of interest to you,even though I'm sure I will be taken as a fool by those who don't like the way I re-use waste plastic containers and wood now,to be of benefit to those who might use my simple transportable system,made for free to help feed themselves. What I said.
My decking is your platform covered completely in rows of plastic containers,even a poly tunnel system covering the crops would protect them from the snow and the cold winds. I'm sure once the first platform is made up high using block and tackle,and a lot of ropes,you will then go on to link up other tree top platforms areas to each other by the way of walk ways,so you can do things without coming down. What I suggest you do first is to make a small version of what your tree top farm is going to be like,simply done by finding a young tree to work on,or more to represent the way your going to have to do things on a small scale first,before trying to do it on a larger scale up high. For example either laying out your containers on a trunk area you have cut off,or extending it by laying very long lengths of wood down on top of your tree trunk first. Which ever way you feel is safer,remembering the bigger the space the more you can grow. Making a log cabin serves a purpose made from wood,making a tree top farming system from wood will serve even a bigger purpose.
The main benefits of my system is if used,you don't have to cut down any trees,only the top part is removed which allows the tree to keep on growing leaving outer branches all the way round your platform to protect you from the wind,you can also use solar power,wind power if you want too,you can also save water in many ways to make your self even more selfsufficientish.
The only down side would be if there was a forest fire,but if we are talking about very wide tree trunks,I'm sure all would not be lost to start again. Plus you could already have a helicopter landing platform made in the same way to help in a rescue situation or for other things. Plus you will only need a sharp knife once you are set up to do things,like I do now,even re-using the same compost over and over again will give you a crop. There's a thought a tree top allotment plot,but not in the UK. John JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: moonbells on September 22, 2005, 07:55:00

This is my own personal passion - i am pretty active in promoting the use of cloth nappies - just thought i'd share with y'all.  Ta for listening x

I read not that long ago that the environmental impact is about the same, since you have to expend energy washing the terry nappies at high enough temperatures to kill bacteria.  But yes I agree with you. There's another benefit of terry nappies -  babies know they're damp and so potty training is faster. I was apparently dry at 18 months.  Trouble is, if you have to use a childminder or creche, do they object to doing cloth nappies?

moonbells (no sprogs yet - not quite been hitched a year !)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: kentishchloe on September 23, 2005, 11:52:02
creches & childminders seem to be fine with them - most modern types are shaped just like diposables and fasten with velcro so no difference except that you don't chuck them away.
The study that suggested that the two types of nappy were of equal environmental impact didn't actually consider landfill at all - concentrated on production methods and costs. also their research was flawed as they didn't take a wide enough sample of cloth users and got a lot of their facts wrong. I believe the report may have been recommissioned, but i could be wrong about that.


Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: joji on September 25, 2005, 21:30:51
We have a local firm that makes car parts. They just throw away big blue barrels and wooden pallets. We go there 3 - times a week to take the pallets and blue barrels off there hands to use on our lotti once it is all sorted out. The blue barrels will be used to collect rain water and for growing things in like strawberrys. The pallets will be used to make compost bins, fencing, and path boarders and also furniture for the lottie. :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: kentishchloe on September 26, 2005, 09:24:53
ooh - we've got two or three engineering-type units on the industrial park nearby - maybe they'll be as rich in lotty pickings as yours - excited now, will go and investigate when son & heir wakes up from nap. ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: joji on September 26, 2005, 16:28:55
Kentishchloe

Let me know how you get on :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: kentishchloe on September 30, 2005, 13:00:35
joji - went for a little jolly in my audi estate yesterday and came up trumps! found a distribution centre that had a huge pile of tasty looking pallets next to their bins, also found some handsome young men sitting around in the sunshine so i gave them my broadest smile and asked if i could have any - they were only too happy to oblige! i now have enough to make my planned coldframe ( i did have to do two trips, dropping little boy off with dad so i could put seats down & get bigger pallets in car)
thanks for the tip :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: joji on September 30, 2005, 13:53:12
WOW great news Kentishchloe. Glad I could help. Deffo a gret money saver. ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 25, 2005, 12:14:53
I thought I better write some thing as my topic is now at the bottom of the list. It's great to read about other people doing their own thing to help reduce waste that can be re-used to be of benefit,instead of going to landfill sites. Keep up the good work,together we must be making a big difference in our own ways,power to the people.
I also thought I better write something about what I've been doing otherwise you may think I have given up.
Whilst we have had a lot of rain laterly I've still been putting my bits of potatos into my container system,after taking out my crops of potatos to eat.
I've also just finished picking my tomatoes which were sown on the 7-4-2005,in total 345,even though I stopped them from growing to high,with no cane supports to fit into my sections,and having chicking wire over them to stop ?
I'm still picking French beans sown on the 15-2-2005.
I've even got strawberries growing on my old plants which I thought had finished flowering.
Lots of my old onions,spring onions,leeks and carrots are still alive sown on the 12-1-2004,5-5-2004 24-5-2004,which proves to me mother nature will grow things in my containers better than if they were left in the ground to be eaten by what ever,instead of being eaten if they were not harvested.
May you all live long and happy. John.JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 07, 2005, 23:25:45
RECYCLING IDEAS TO MY OLD SCHOOL.
 :)I've just been in contact with one of my old class mates who is now chirman at my old school in Eltham. I've asked him to ask the children if they would be interested in my re-using of waste ideas,to have as a school project,to help reduce some of our waste going into landfill sites in the UK,as we were both not very good at the 3Rs ourselves when we were at school.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 26, 2005, 23:52:02
 :(ANOTHER MONTH GONE BY AND STILL NO HELP TO HELP THE POOR.
Hello again,another month has gone by and still no one has used my idea to help the poor.
I tried to get a answer why not form Penny Poyzer on the environment forum website the other day,as people claim she is the Queen of recycling,but I got no reply because of one thing and another.
May be after Christmas when I've been on TV again some one will help me,until then I will have to just keep on asking new people who don't know me to take a look at my website,in the hope it might be of interset to them,in the way of being a different way of re-using waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets to be of benefit,instead of going into lanfill sites.
God bless George Best a legend in his own life time.
May you,all live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 12, 2005, 23:54:57
RE-USING FAILED M.O.T. CARS OR VANS OR BUSES TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS.
May I put forward my own ideas on how I would help those who need a roof over their head,a place to live or just a dry place to sleep. Done by re-using failed M.O.T. vehicles.
Nearly every where people need a place or a base to live,whilst millions of us are OK there are lots of people who aren't young and old,who face each day in a different way compared to most of us. With this in mind may I suggest a way that I believe would help many people for next to nothing. For example for those who need a permanent base of some kind who do have a problem what ever it is,but they still get money from some where,so they get by.
I believe if you become a member of anything you feel involved,which gives you a reason to do things whether it's good or bad. Of course we can all turn our backs on other peoples problems,but we are the first to moan if the weather is to hot or to cold or raining,plus all the other aches and pains which we can't do anything about,but when it comes to simply giving someone a roof over their heads then we can,but we are talking about spending lots of money.
My way would cost next to nothing if used,like most things I try to get others to use.but I'm a no body. Plus there all types of people who are paid to solve these problems every day who go home to a base with a roof on it.
What I would like is for someone to designate a area,a space for lots of cars and vans to be parked up which could be used as a base for someone to live in,with a very low electrical power supply system laid on,enough to supply a light or to charge a battery,to help keep any running cost down to those who may use my idea. Whilst a traveler's site caters for caravans and vehicles which move,and they usually have toilets and water laid on,I would like the designated area to have the same thing,with CCTV and wardens to watch over those who respect what's being done for them. These people would have their own key to their vehicle base,and a must agreement signed,which will give them a post number for their base. There should be no money involved in paying for this service once in place,as I'm sure it would cost more to help the homeless in any other way. Plus the fact if the area was needed,all the vehicles could be scrapped to be recycled or moved to another place.
If you think about what a car alone can offer with the engine and gearbox taken out,you have that space for what ever with it filled in at the bottom,plus you have the petol tank taken out and the exhaust system too,leaving you with just the hand brake,to keep the vehicle in place. Also with the two front seats turned round and the steering wheel removed would give you a bigger area all round inside,the boot area can be got at from the inside or out,if it's a four door car even better for ventilation with wind up and down windows,which most of the old cars have,plus it's easyer to get in and out. With the help of hook and eyes curtains can be fixed up to give some privacy. The wheels can be used to have line post tied to them through the air flow spaces. The glove box can be used,like the ash trays,hand rails can be used,the back shelfs and dash board top can be used too. With one of the front seats out could use that space for some sort of cooking area with the carpet removed of course. The front seat usally reclines enough to sleep in,the back seat can be used to sleep on,all the doors can be locked from the inside or outside. In the hot weather the 4 post line can have a sheet of some sort laid across the area to shade the car,or in wet weather.
Sleeping bags would be supplied along with a fire extinguisher,water would be supplied through a simple hose system from one main tap on site,hot water could be run through the cars heating system in the same way,all the vehicles could be linked up by using the same system,with the same space as you would have in a normal car park layout. I can't think of anything else I would need to make my car livable for 1 or 2 people. John. JRP.

Ps, I'm glad I'm not homeless at Christmas aren't you,as being without a place to live in,and the chance to bring up a family must really hurt,or just a place to say,this is where you will find me,and what I own. I know most of us would say that most of the homeless bring it on themselves,but it still must hurt at Christmas as we were all children once,no matter where we live. I would like to wish every one young and old a Happy Christmas,and I hope a Happy New Year 2006 too. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 13, 2005, 22:37:54
why not build them a house from pallets??  :o ;D

surly though, all we are doing would be to create places that are unfit for people to live in, where bugs and disease could grow and live much easier. so this inturn would lead to deaths etc etc etc.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 13, 2005, 22:39:36
wouldnt it be much easier and more effective, much mroe effective to simply get peopel together and get on your councils back about recycling??? 

Why go to all these extremes?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: sammyd on December 14, 2005, 15:44:54
jrp-

i agree that there is a serious issue in britain with the number of homeless people and it is brought to the forefront of our minds this time of year

however there are numerous issues relating to the homeless which is much more than providing a roof

and so your idea of solely providing a roof would be ineffective especially in the long term

the majority of homeless people have been through a traumatic experience to be where they are and so will need support and guidance to integrate them back into society
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 14, 2005, 18:10:11
well said Sammy.  i have also seen a fact about homeless people often dont stay homeless for very long, often they leave home due to a few problems but very soon realise that their problems are better faced tan hiding down a cold back alley in a city centre.   theres very few who are actually homelss for months.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 19, 2005, 23:34:05
RE-USING OLD DOUBLE DECKER BUSES TO HOUSE THE HOMELESS.
I've just seen on TV today 19-12-2005,a great idea to use old double deckers to help the homeless. The only trouble is we only have a few of them,plus every one is on top of each other,and the buses must have cost a lot of money to convert too,but at least they have used my idea in a different way,even though my idea would have cost next to nothing.
With a designated parking space we can now get more homeless in the same space as 2 cars,like a block of flats,well done to the person who got their idea used,it must have been someone who is into re-using things like me and many others.
Power to the people who are doing their bit. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 20, 2005, 23:16:30

 May I put forward another new idea of mine,and that is to re-use old rags or shredded fabric materials to cover the ground surface.
Whilst I've been talking to a lot of people about the re-use of my waste transportable water recycling system. I'm about to start my own trials on covering my seeds in my containers with old clean rags to see if I can save even more water than I already do now to grow my crops in the UK.
I'm sure it will work like all my other ideas do,because it will act like bark chippings,compost,or black screen material to stop the weeds,and to protect the roots,even though where it does come in contact with the damp surface it will absorb some water,but water finds it's own level,so if the lower part is dryer in my containers it will draw down what water is in the fabric material. So when it rains water full into the materials which will absorb it until it can't hold no more,for then to drip into my lower compost section to help feed my crop,it will also help if my top area of my compost is dry from being blown about in strong winds,even though I always leave about a inch so I can put another upside down clear bottomless bottle inside it.
To make my fabric material look more like some sort of compost,or manure,I'm going to soak it in brown muddy water first.
If my material covering idea works OK, I can see allotment plots all over the world looking like as if some one has just dug over the surface with or without any crops already growing in it all the year round.
If the fabric materials were dug into the soil,I can see it being much more easier for those who have heavy soil to dig over,which I don't have a problem with as I grow nothing in the ground it's self. Of course if there is a problem with re-using old rag materials I'm sure some one will tell me before I start my trials next year,or next week,it will all depends on what type of old clothes I've got to throw away. May I wish you all have a Merry Christmas and I hope a Happy New Year too. John JRP.
_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 20, 2005, 23:47:57
ive seen this before,  you sure its new??  o yes, its called weed surpressant membrane, has been around for a while, stops sun getting to soil, traps water, one way sytem kinda things, works better than rags,

 so actually john it isnt your idea. its simply your cheaper way of doing things.

i also cant see where i would get rags from to cover my allotments, which isnt that big!   let alone one thats an acre!!

plus to me john, coming from a geography point of view, arnt you just storing water in the UK, stopping it infiltrating the surface and causing the water cycle to be messed about with, which is what causes problems with water!!

JRP, i dont understand half of your ideas or the benefits of them to anyone and i have said this many times. but some people seem to udnerstand some dont, so ok,  but i think your ideas are slowly becoming more and more obscure, every thread seems to be focusing around your worl domination and gettin on the TV, i think this is becoming more of what name can you make for yourself than anything else. only my view though.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on December 21, 2005, 16:17:19
Adam, give the guy a break, he posts here for public opinion on his ideas, with the best intentions. Feedback is not useful as sarcastic or personal remarks.
So post something helpful- constructive criticism, or dont post anything at all. Maybe when youre as old as jrp you might want to help people rather than insult them.
And no, you dont know everything, rags are biodegradable and mighty cheaper than spending all your pocket money on weed sheet- with more pioneers like jrp here putting forward ideas to reuse sustainable resources, and less know it alls like yourself, it might just become industrially practicable.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 21, 2005, 17:36:29
I have been reticent to post in this thread, as I felt I had little to contribute, but in view of the apparent polarisation that is developing, I have some points to add.

First, irrespective of the effectiveness of JRP's ideas, his approach has to be commended, on at least two counts. The first is that his systems do not appear to be adding to the carbon debt, and I appreciate that may only be an illusion, as hidden features make upset the calculations. The second, and to me, more important, is that JRP appears to be thinking 'outside the box', which is where great ideas come from, and without that approach, we would still be in the middle ages ...

Adam is entitled to his opinions, and in the interests of good debate, should be allowed to express them, but I would suggest that it is necessary to remember respect for allies and opponents, and choose responses accordingly.

Thank you

Derekthefox :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 22, 2005, 20:12:07
i have always been against his ideas,  but i dont see why i cant be, i come up with ideas why they i am against them, if i idnt then that would be different but i do

i was against JRP when he first came to the beeb and i was against his ideas then, as were many people,infcat i think i can recall a few of his threads being withdrawn by the mods as thye were too much like publicity.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 22, 2005, 22:26:00
was aimed at return of the mac's comment on that i shouldnt give him a hard time about his ideas.   

The point of this post is to wardy what the point on the thread before was about as it didnt have a point..... wow am confused :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: sammyd on December 22, 2005, 22:36:49
hey

ive jus read through this whole post and now understand that jrp was talking from a recycling perspective in relation to creating housin

i have been working with homeless people for many years and so my opinion was based solely on the bigger picture
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: ice on December 23, 2005, 09:07:09
John is a well meaning character, but you'll find that he posts these sort of things on a number of forums and it always follows the same pattern....i.e. I'm saving lives in Africa, My ideas are amazing, and if you don't agree then you don't understand them. I have followed these posts on a number of these forums and people are usually polite and ask questions challenging these ideas, but John will never respond to these questions, he will simply post the same old 'I'm saving lives' mantra. He doesn't seem to understand what a forum is ie. discussing and debating issues. He uses forums to promote his website and that is that.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Derekthefox on December 23, 2005, 09:15:39
Thank you Ice, that certainly helps me to try and understand whats going on here a little bit better ...

Derekthefox
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 23, 2005, 18:04:39
yes ice, thanks for that,  that also backs up my point better.

as i said JRP was on the beeb, he first came with his ideas and mostly people were against his ideas. he posted a reply to a couple of them trying to give reasons why it was better to cover your lottie with pallets rather than using the sil and recycling the pallets.  then he simply came back again to try and promote what he was doing.

John, im sorry, but i think you were a novelty item for the TV and now that novelty has worn off.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on December 23, 2005, 18:16:15
Theres nothing wrong with criticising ideas, but if its sarcastic, personal or just mean then that isnt criticising an idea, but the ideas creator. I left the beeb boards because they had downright mean comments there- moderators only cared if there was a commercial message or swear word, insults and personal remarks could go ignored as long as they didnt have a url or bad words in them. I saw comments about jrp that i would have removed if i was moderating that forum, but they were left.
And at first i didnt see much sense in johns ideas, but if it were applied on arid nutrient low soils (like africa) then his system is like low cost hydroponics, in a country where water can be like gold dust, then that is something VERY significant.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 23, 2005, 18:33:40
yes Mac,

Firstly the beeb boards have to be complained about to get attention, thats how they are ran.

Secondly, yes johns idea maybe would work on poor soils but in the UK, we are blessed with good soil, so why watse it,  john wants people over here to do what he has done and this just seems a waste.  Also, i could never understand where Africans would get milk cartons from??  i mean shipping them over and the cost of it would cost much mroe than simply educating the people and the damages to the environment would also be worse.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 23, 2005, 23:31:56
Hi every one,I've just sat and read the comments from all of you,and this is my reply. Whilst of course I would like to save millions of lives for next to nothing using my ideas,but I can't do it on my own,that's why I've put my message on other forums too. I need help to get my ideas used to help mainly the poor in the third world,and in a flood or drought situation to help to feed people who can't grow things because of these problems.
Whilst I can't say I've traveled around the world,and had first hand knowledge of what I'm talking about. I can say that I have grown things to eat using my very simple to make transportable recycling system,with very Little gardening knowledge myself. So what I'm saying is,if I can grow things any one can who dose know how to grow things would get a far better end result using my ideas.
All I've done is to design a system that works,which cost next to nothing to make,because it's all made from waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets,which there is no other system in the world can match,made for FREE,which would help to reduce some of our waste going into landfill sites,in the UK and in the rest of the world too.
I'm doing my bit in my own way to try and help others who are worse off than I am,is that so wrong when we throw so much away every day which could be re-used in some way.
Which I did presume others would also be interested in doing too. But as I've been  told presumption can be a dangers thing,and I have no right to expect others to help me. Which is true,but if I don't ask for help then I won't get any,help that is.
For those who keep on saying I'm not answering the questions put to me,if they take the time to visit my website and read some of my pages which are all about,what,and how I'm doing things,I would take the time to answer them,even though I'm not very good with words.
Whilst there are people out there who do read what I have to say,and then move on,there are some people who must go through life living a very sad life,who only seem to get enjoyment from putting other people down. IN MY OPINION.
There are also people out there who are trying my ideas in their own way,which is great to hear,there are also people who are waiting to see how far I get with my ideas before deciding,which is also great to hear too,at least they have shown some interest in the way I do things.
I'm not trying to be famous,but any publicity on TV or a website must help me better than talking to just a few,who may or may not like my ideas.
But in order to do this,as I've  also been told I must come in from the wilderness,if I want other to help me. Which I think is a shame,as I've got to change my way of life so that I fit in with every one else if I want to succeed.
Whilst I've also put forward other ideas of mine on other forum,at least I'm doing some thing to help other,not just talking rubbish,about rubbish.
May I wish you all and yours a Happy Christmas,and I hope a Happy New Year 2006 too. Power to the people who are doing their bit. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on December 24, 2005, 16:11:29
hi all, JRP,

I think that debate and bouncing around new ideas is a good thing and we are fortunate that the internet including forums allows us to do that whatever physical and social barriers exist so thats all good. I think that here JRP is preaching to the converted and as a group we are actively practising a range of green ideas applicable to our own circumstances.

It matters how ideas are presented and how debate is conducted. On the net we have to take things at face value so it is important to consider how we may be perceived by our audience especially if we have anything really really important to express. I think that people here have an understanding of social and environmental issues. We know these things are really really important. I can listen more carefully if I`m not shouted at. I`ll lean towards a person who whispers.
 
I`m proud of the things I do that are innovative and that challenge me, I`m happy with my old sheds and things I do on the allotment. I`m quietly proud of the huge physical efforts I put into moving things around by bike or on foot or building some thing to achieve some self-set goal. I work to my limits and sometimes I edge past them. I`m sure that my life isn`t much different to other peoples. But we aren`t drawing attention to ourselves. Myself, I really don`t want an audience. I have a website, I made it, its there, look if you like. Thats as far as I go.

If all the people on this forum and others like it are doing a little then collectively we are doing a lot. We know the issues and we are active in finding solutions. Our quiet little lives are part of the solution and the search for solutions. We are happy to be challenged and to explore new ideas.
We may need a well-earned break to recharge our batteries from time to time but don`t mistake that as resting on our laurels.

best wishes, seasons greetings, Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on December 24, 2005, 16:26:19
Quote
Firstly the beeb boards have to be complained about to get attention, thats how they are ran.
- i meant after complaining- they wont do much about it.

johns system saves massive amounts of water, and makes use of otherwise barren land by working above the soil, i agree its not as applicable in this country (apart from poor soil, rooftop gardens or low lying land susceptible to ground frost), BUT shipping may not be as expensive as you think, in practice, freight and passenger flights and ships always have wasted capacity, which could be charitably donated, for absolutely anything, this is an idea in itself that could save millions in logistics costs for all global charities, like oxfam for example. I agree though that if it were my project shipping would be the first issue to resolve.

Merry Christmas all,
John (Mac)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on December 24, 2005, 16:32:51
ah, well i suppsoe if you did complain then that is different.

yes, maybe johns idea will work on poor soils but i dont liek the approach of trying to get people to do it in this country!

as for shipping, it is expenisve, to send a B747 to southern africa filled with bottles and pallets would use as a quick guess at least 10,000 kilos of kerosine. Kerosine is very very high in carbon. i woiuld say jet fuel is about £1.50 a kilo, think thats about right.   so you would be looking at £15,000 per aircraft to fly it!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on December 24, 2005, 18:18:46
But as i just suggested, you dont have to, and if the plane flys/ship sails anyway...
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 24, 2006, 13:10:00
ANOTHER NEW IDEA AFTER 10pm TO DAY, to do with container gardening.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 25, 2006, 00:25:03
Hi every one,may I put forward another new idea of mine that you may like to build,made by re-using 6 or 4 pint milk containers like I already do,but this time I'm growing things upwards.
For example,against a wall or a fence,simply done by using 3-8ft bean canes which you sink into the ground to a depth of say one foot at the fat end of course,in a row a quarter of an inch apart in a straight line facing away from you.
You then get your 6 or 4 pint milk container with the bottom cut back towards the handle end to leave about two inches not cut,the rest you fold in.
Next you get a fat Phillips screwdriver or something with a point sharp enough to make 3 holes in a row along the 2 inch strip section at the top of the bottom of your upside down milk container,so that the ends of the upright canes can go through it, after you have made 1 hole in what would be the top part of the handle in line with the bottom handle inner hole,with 2 other holes one on each side of the handle where it sticks out at the bottom of the handle.
What you should have now is a 6 or 4 pint milk container with 6 holes made in it 3 at the top which are in line with 3 at the bottom when the container is upside down.
You then slide the container over the ends of your 3 canes until it reaches the ground surface.
You then do the same thing with another container of the same type,but this one must be facing away from the first one resting on where the handle part comes in contact,this you do so that you have more on the side where the first one touches the ground,than the other side.
This way will give you a space to grow something in,about a foot apart using 5-7 containers going up your canes to make any layout where you want to grow something,this way will mean every one now can grow things upwards.
You can also make a square shape with your canes using 8 canes sunk into the ground if you want to get to what you are growing from all sides,what would look like a cross from the top view or you can have as many as you want in rows along side each other.
This you can do like I do now with a flat length of wood past through all the handle space to give it strength.
What I will try to do is put some photos on my website for you,so you can see what I've made,but I don't know when,as I've got no more space left on it.
If you have any problems please let me know and I will sort it out. Thank you for taking the time to read my message. May you all live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on January 25, 2006, 09:12:34
HI JRP, HI all  :D

I`m finding it hard to picture this one, I think its a tower of milk containers held together with canes.

I have ideas for growing strawberries vertically this year, probably in guttering as someone demonstrated last year. I have access to loads of milk containers. This idea could make a strawberry tower thingy if I make a big pyramid.

Thanks JRP

Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on January 25, 2006, 16:45:26
nope, cant picture it either.  Could you maybe post some pictures please JRP?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 25, 2006, 23:40:02
Hi Col,Hi Adam, yes I'm going to put some photos on my website,but I've got to take some of my other photos off first, because I've got no more room left on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as you will see.
Yes it does look like a tower,and it looks like a step ladder too,it will be great for growing strawberries,and herbs,to name a few,what I forgot to tell you was,where the cap toughs the ground, you must have something flat so that you can undo or do up the cap at the bottom of your first base container,plus it stops the base container from sinking into the ground too.
I have built some of my towers 14 containers high using just 4 canes of setting each pair which work OK too,but you must keep the container weight even,or it will bend to the point it will break at the bottom in strong winds.You must also remember to keep every thing as straight as you can because of the weight you may have the higher you go,you will find it's best to work up the cane slowly to find the ideal weight,remembering you can use other cane to keep it from moving about,which it won't do if you use the metal green poles you can by at B&Q or Sainburys Homebase,if it does full down using bean canes it will only break of at the bottom,so you could still make a lower one using the same canes, OK. have fun it works so you won't be wasting your time. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 26, 2006, 23:05:03
Hi Col,Hi Adam,and to any one else who is interested in the way I do things,I've just put 2 photos on my website to show you what I have made, which I believe have never been made before,so please be one of the first people to take a look at something different on my website,www.recycling.moonfruit.com under THINGS TO MAKE. As seeing is believing,when it comes to something new. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: adam04 on January 28, 2006, 11:02:51
right, your gonna have to sit down for this...

this is the first idea of JRP's that i like.  Not because its saving lives as he says but cos its an effective and cheap way of making hanging baskets etc. so there said it. well done John.

Think i need a lye down now  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 29, 2006, 23:07:34
right, your gonna have to sit down for this...

this is the first idea of JRP's that i like.  Not because its saving lives as he says but cos its an effective and cheap way of making hanging baskets etc. so there said it. well done John.

Think i need a lye down now  ;D


Hi Adam,thank you very much, you have made my day,this proves to me that I was not wasting my time then. After having over 14,500 hits on my website that my ideas can be of some use. My you live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: stuffed on February 03, 2006, 12:01:00
How much do you spend on compost filling the cartons?
Surely in many third world areas if you supplied them with this system it would be too hot and dry. Many places have difficulties because of drought and these cartons would need watering regularly, also being relatively small they would dry out quite quickly in the heat. ???
I want to be clear that I am very impressed with the idea these are just a couple of points which confuse me.
Personally I would consider doing something like this, well maybe not a whole plot just some plants that I feel may do just as well as they would in the ground, if I get an allotment close to me as the soil here is very heavy clay which is a pain to dig and I get loads of empty milk cartons.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 04, 2006, 00:18:45
How much do you spend on compost filling the cartons?
Surely in many third world areas if you supplied them with this system it would be too hot and dry. Many places have difficulties because of drought and these cartons would need watering regularly, also being relatively small they would dry out quite quickly in the heat. ???
I want to be clear that I am very impressed with the idea these are just a couple of points which confuse me.
Personally I would consider doing something like this, well maybe not a whole plot just some plants that I feel may do just as well as they would in the ground, if I get an allotment close to me as the soil here is very heavy clay which is a pain to dig and I get loads of empty milk cartons.


Hi,thank you for showing your interest in my way of growing things to eat.
I'm not very good with words,but here goes.
I buy a 45 litre multi purpose compost from B&Q for £5-50.
What I would do if the land was dry,I would lay down 50 - 6 pint milk containers all interlocked like a zip does, as my base containers on their carrying beams,I would then pile up the dry soil to cover all the outer container sides,leaving about 2 inches showing,with their caps done up.
In to them I would put another 50 more 6- pint or 4 pint milk containers,which you can take in and out at any time with either crops in or with a 2 litre bottomless bottle in with what ever crop you are growing,adding what ever water there is to either the bottomless bottle with the crop in,to then undo or do up the cap at the bottom of it,so that any water can then go into what ever container you put that into. For example a 4 pint  to then undo the cap to recycle what ever water there is to then drip into the top one again to water the crop until there's no more water left,laid out this way it would look like a raised up bed for growing things in, I would then put what ever was at hand to cover my containers,a sheet or rags any thing which would help to stop any water from evaporating.
In the third world they have their own way of growing things,no B&Q,,but they use what they know works for them which they can put into my containers like we use compost to get a end result,which I'm sure you will get what ever scale you decide to make,like I have with very little gardening knowledge my self.
If you want to know more please post here again,which may help others too. Power to the people who are doing their bit to help reduce some of our waste going into landfill sites,may you live long and happy too. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: stuffed on February 05, 2006, 11:10:45
Just out of interest why do you leave the bottom of the container on as a flap rather than cutting it off entirely. I presume there is a practical reason I just can't figure out what it is ??? ???
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: glow777 on February 05, 2006, 19:35:25

_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.


Hi JRP
I've been following this with interest and listening to the descriptions of your ideas but when I visit your website your images (not the thumbs) are just too small to work out whats going on. Any chance of some bigger pics at the next re-write
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 05, 2006, 23:25:35
Just out of interest why do you leave the bottom of the container on as a flap rather than cutting it off entirely. I presume there is a practical reason I just can't figure out what it is ??? ???


Hi again,thank you for asking,the reason I leave all my flaps on is,when I fold them back so they stand up they move about in the wind or bang against any canes I have in the inside handle hole,which helps to keep the birds away. They can also help to protect the crop from the wind too.
If you want to know more please post again here. John.JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 05, 2006, 23:30:47

_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.


Hi JRP
I've been following this with interest and listening to the descriptions of your ideas but when I visit your website your images (not the thumbs) are just too small to work out whats going on. Any chance of some bigger pics at the next re-write


Hi Glow 777,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things.
Have you tried clicking on them to make them larger. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: glow777 on February 06, 2006, 08:06:58

_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.


Hi JRP
I've been following this with interest and listening to the descriptions of your ideas but when I visit your website your images (not the thumbs) are just too small to work out whats going on. Any chance of some bigger pics at the next re-write


Hi Glow 777,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things.
Have you tried clicking on them to make them larger. John. JRP.

yep hence the "not the thumbs" bit in my text - seems like some very good ideas spoilt by poor presentation. Although the website design is also very good it doesnt deliver the content eg the pictures very well.

The full size pics (in the m/flash box) are about 335 X 215 dpi. I would think these need to be at least 640 X 480. Or is this just me?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: stuffed on February 06, 2006, 10:32:36
I would have to agree pictures could do with being a bit bigger.
Thanks for the reply abouth the flaps it makes sense now :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 06, 2006, 23:34:10

_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.


Hi JRP
I've been following this with interest and listening to the descriptions of your ideas but when I visit your website your images (not the thumbs) are just too small to work out whats going on. Any chance of some bigger pics at the next re-write


Hi Glow 777,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things.
Have you tried clicking on them to make them larger. John. JRP.

yep hence the "not the thumbs" bit in my text - seems like some very good ideas spoilt by poor presentation. Although the website design is also very good it doesn't deliver the content eg the pictures very well.

The full size pics (in the m/flash box) are about 335 X 215 dpi. I would think these need to be at least 640 X 480. Or is this just me?


Hi Glow 777 and Stuffed,I was hoping you could see enough in my photos I took of things,because if I did all of my photos at the size you are suggesting I believe that I would not get as many of them on my website.
If there is anything you want to know please ask me and I will tell you.
Thank you for trying to help me improve my website,but what you have seen has been done with very little website knowledge my self. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 15, 2006, 23:13:47
;D RECYCLE YOUR WAY TO SUCCESS WITH THE LADIES.
As reported in our local news paper to day 15-2-2006.
For years the answer to one impossible question has eluded most men - what makes women happy?
According to a survey the answer is not flowers,or a gift,or a candlelit dinner but something far simpler and cheaper - RECYCLING.
Research by Lewisham Council shows of 2,000 women asked,65 per cent said they find their MEN SEXIER if they recycled.
Only a quarter of men in the borough recycled regularly.
The council is now URGING MEN TO BOOST THEIR CHANCES with the ladies by recycling their VALENTINE'S DAY CARDS and CHAMPAGNE BOTTLES.
What a load of RUBBISH my wife said,mind you I'm a RE-USER so I think this does not apply to me,or does it,I will have to try buying some flowers first,and maybe a gift,I don't know about a candlelit dinner,no I think I will tell my wife I'm recycling now instead of re-using,IT WILL WORK OUT CHEAPER. I can't wait for the upturn in my sex life  ;D :o ??? ;) :)John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: return of the mac on February 15, 2006, 23:34:13
Haha, sounds like the most ridiculous recycling initiative ive ever heard of- i think they maybe fiddled with the statistics... or the wording.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on February 15, 2006, 23:56:23
;D RECYCLE YOUR WAY TO SUCCESS WITH THE LADIES.
As reported in our local news paper to day 15-2-2006.
For years the answer to one impossible question has eluded most men - what makes women happy?
According to a survey the answer is not flowers,or a gift,or a candlelit dinner but something far simpler and cheaper - RECYCLING.
Research by Lewisham Council shows of 2,000 women asked,65 per cent said they find their MEN SEXIER if they recycled.
 

Were the ladies not thinking of just recycling their husbands? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 27, 2006, 20:49:23
OXFAM I'M IN ? are you.
Hi every one,OXFAM have asked me to tell you they need help to help millions of people in East Africa.
THIS MONTH,as the food crisis in East Africa worsens,OXFAM is responding in Ethiopia,kenya and Somalia by targetting food distributions,water and livelihood support to over 500,000 people.
Currently,they are trucking in 20,000 litres each week to people in Wajir,Kenya,who previously face a 60-kilometre trek to find water,or were forced to drink dirty supplies.

To find out more please visit OXFAM-I'M IN-the people's poll at www.oxfam.org.uk,I've offered my help,if we all try to do our bit,I'm sure it will make a big difference to those people who need our help now. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 04, 2006, 00:00:45
Hi return of the mac and Alishka-Maxwell.
I thought I would leave it a while just to see if anyone else had something to say about the sexy report.
I was not telling porky pies,it was a true report in our local free news paper. At least two of you thought is was funny enough to talk about,as me and my wife could not stop laughing when we read it our selves,which I thought I would share with all the people who visit my topic.
It just goes to prove there's nothing sexy about recycling or re-using something,when only 2 of you replied.
It was suggested I did a poll on the subject,should I ask,are you better at recycling at home,or are you better at recycling away from home,and how many times do you do it,I wonder how many people would reply to that ? ;D ;D ;D John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on March 04, 2006, 21:35:11
I love to read of your passion and enthusiasm, John. Congrats on your website, btw.......as someone in this (long) thread remarked once, you think 'outside the box' - and that stimulates thoughts and ideas.

Regards, Lishka
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 04, 2006, 22:52:22
Hi Alishka-Maxwell,thank you very much for your kind wards they mean a lot to me,because of the way I am,I think as left me alone with my thoughts for a long time now,because I look at the way things are which I would like to help change,it would be nice if there were more people like you, at least you took the time to read about what I had to say before  deciding NOT to put my ideas down. May you and yours live long and happy.John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: stuffed on March 06, 2006, 17:20:12
On your site it shows pictures of growing potatoes in milk cartons what sort of yield do you get from this size container?
I am growing in any container I can get my hands on in the back garden and want a few more for potatoes I may go down this route or the carrier bag route depending on your answer.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Curryandchips on March 06, 2006, 18:29:28
What a wonderful and refreshing thread! I agree with Alishka's choice of words - 'thinking outside of the box'. An example to us all of altruism in my opinion. Please keep going !
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 07, 2006, 00:13:27
On your site it shows pictures of growing potatoes in milk cartons what sort of yield do you get from this size container?
I am growing in any container I can get my hands on in the back garden and want a few more for potatoes I may go down this route or the carrier bag route depending on your answer.

Hi Stuffed,if you put say one King Edward potato in you should get 5-10 potato's out,what I do if you have looked at my website photos is to cut the bits off where there are signs of growth,we eat the rest.
This time I've put 1,000 bits of mixed potato's into my 4 sections on the left side of my pallet allotment plot,in bottomless 2 litre bottles to see what return I get,I started sowing from the 10-9-2005 until the 9-2-2006.
Whilst people talk in lbs of potato's,I empty out my single containers until I have enough to eat,leaving all the rest in until I need them.
I will tell you and others now what I found out growing things in my containers,which must apply to every container used. YOU MUST NOT HAVE ANY WORMS IN A CONTAINER,as they eat what ever they can,just like they do in a compost container,plus if you do put some type of potato's in a container it can turn into a horrible watery slimy stinking potato,which I suppose the slugs and worms would normally eat in the ground or just rots away,thats why I use bits now instead of whole potato's.
NO WORMS I get a good crop,either way you can grow potato's,but my way you are in fall control of the water side of things,plus if I leave my new potato's in to long they will give me more new potato's,so I have in one container 2 lots crops from one lot of bits,and then I re-use all the old compost and old roots again to grow some more when I've harvested what I have grown.
I have no other problems growing my potato's the only thing is they are smaller because they are grown from bits,say from 50p down to 1p and smaller which I eat as if they were peas,cooked of course.
I put my bits in about 3 inches from the bottom cap,put in side ways standing up.
If there's anything else you wont to know please post again as others may wont to know too.
Thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things Stuffed,and to anybody else who is reading this message it wont be a waste of your time trying  the way I grow all my things not in the ground. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 07, 2006, 00:18:38
What a wonderful and refreshing thread! I agree with Alishka's choice of words - 'thinking outside of the box'. An example to us all of altruism in my opinion. Please keep going !

Hi Curry,thank you very much,I will keep going because of you and others.
May you and yours live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: amphibian on March 09, 2006, 23:02:32
I have thought about this system at length, and I can see its potential benefit in areas of poor soil, drought, waterlogging, erosion, rugged terrain...

I doubt the answer in the third world would be milk bottles, but the third world is full of its own waste and packaging. I have travelled extensively throughout the third world: Africa, Asia and South America and one thing I noted is that recycling is highly practiced. Many of the poorest collect anything recyclable to sell, and binmen tend to sort the rubbish as they collect, separating any waste matter that can be sold.

So while milk bottles may not be the item, I am sure that in most countries there is some such material that could be used as a suitable substitute.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 10, 2006, 00:37:49
Hi Amphibian,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things,why should there be a suitable substitute when we have millions of plastic containers going into landfill sites in the UK every day,when we could send them to the third world countries for next to nothing,so they can grow things to help feed themselves.
We have got a big problem with our waste,the poor people living in the third world have a big problem of trying to feed themselves. My system will help to solve both problems if used,and shown by people like your self who travel extensively throughout the third world,and you said recycling is highly practiced. So it won't be a waste of your time telling someone who does,to have a look at my website,you know what I mean.
Spreading the word cost nothing,just like my system.
YES,people have already said we should not add to other countries waste problems,but I'm not saying send our rubbish,I'm saying send them a system that works,and it will be of benefit value in many ways,and yes I'm sure there are poor people out there who will adapt a different way of doing it too,like you said. Just like I've designed my system to work vertically using canes. If you want to know more please post again.
May you and yours live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MrsKP on March 10, 2006, 09:39:38
right, i'm sitting here with a kitchen full of milk bottles with their bottoms sliced of leaving the hinge, and loads of "ginger" bottles.

despite having a good look at the site pics i'm still lost as to which section to put the soil in and where to water.

any chance that you could post a step by step photo guide on here from the raw material stage to plant growing stage for just one unit JRP.

I'm already in love with the idea of using materials that would otherwise be tossed aside and i just need a few wee tips.

Cheers.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: stuffed on March 10, 2006, 11:41:31
Hi Amphibian,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things,why should there be a suitable substitute when we have millions of plastic containers going into landfill sites in the UK every day,when we could send them to the third world countries for next to nothing,so they can grow things to help feed themselves.


Ideally I suppose it would mean people in those areas don't have to rely on the other countries and could help themselves rather than rely on charity.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on March 10, 2006, 18:40:52
Hi JRP, Hi all,  :D

Just thinking aloud, no offence meant ...but ...

It may be that some countries don`t want our rubbish. We should take responsibility for that. Maybe other areas of the same country or neighbouring countries have containers that wouldn`t have to be transported so far. For example the UN ships millions of plastic bottles of water in a crisis what happend to the empties?

(I think I`ve finally found a way to source those huge water bottles that go on to coolers (cracked and chipped ones of course) for re-using.  :D

Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MrsKP on March 10, 2006, 18:59:35
i'd rather give them my "rubbish" to teach them how to be fishers of men, than pour millions of pounds in hard cash aid that can/is syphoned off to support corrupt governments.

i'm positive the people who these ideas are designed to help would welcome anything at all, even our old rubbish to improve their lot and if people listen to crazy Bob, then why shouldn't JRP try to help in his own way.

if i had my way, we'd not have the spare capacity rubbish at all.  we'd not have packaging that takes a zillion years to decompose and recycling stuff wouldn't/shouldn't be so expensive but if i hear one more drought, more more catastrophe, one more famine, one more plea for cash when there are ideas out there not being tried, then i give up.

just my thoughts like.

 ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 11, 2006, 00:38:44
right, I'm sitting here with a kitchen full of milk bottles with their bottoms sliced of leaving the hinge, and loads of "ginger" bottles.

despite having a good look at the site pics i'm still lost as to which section to put the soil in and where to water.

any chance that you could post a step by step photo guide on here from the raw material stage to plant growing stage for just one unit JRP.

I'm already in love with the idea of using materials that would otherwise be tossed aside and i just need a few wee tips.

Cheers.

Hi Mrs KP,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things.
I will see what I can do about the step by step photos,in the mean time I hope this message will help you and others to make my system work.
right, here goes,take one of your 6 or 4 pinters milk containers,turn it upside down and slide it onto a flat length of wood that fit tightly through the milk container handle space,the flat wood I use is from a broken down unwanted wooden pallet,which I usually get for free from a building site or industrial site. What you then do is to slide as many as you need along it so they are all facing away from each other on opposite sides,so they can self stand,into them you put some multipurpose compost,because you don't wont any worms in your containers,plus it's a bit lighter to carry.
Decision (1) to grow something in the ones on your carrying beam.
Decision (2) to grow something in another one of the same type which will fit inside it.
Decision (3) to grow something using your 6 pinters as your base row,to have 4 pinters inside them,with compost inside them so you can take them out with your crop in,without moving your base row of 6 pinters.
Decision (4) to grow something using your 6 pinter base row,with another container inside them,with a bottomless 2 litre bottle with compost inside them,which can be taken out so that its cap can be undone or done up to control the water side of things.
The way I grow most of my things is to re-use more container,done by using 6 pinters as my base row with the caps undone a bit if I'm not using it to grow something in,inside that I have a 4 pinter with the cap done up,into that I put a 2 litre bottomless bottle with compost inside that,and my seeds. When water is added to much I undo its cap to let some of it drain into the lower 4 pinter,when I need any water I do up the bottle cap and recycle the water in the 4 pinter until there's none left,or I can leave the bottle cap undone a bit so that the compost in the bottle draws the water up its self if I want to. that's my way of doing it,so put your bottle inside your milk container on a beam with some compost in and you have made my simple system,as shown on my website,OK. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 11, 2006, 00:58:46
Hi JRP, Hi all,  :D

Just thinking aloud, no offence meant ...but ...

It may be that some countries don`t want our rubbish. We should take responsibility for that. Maybe other areas of the same country or neighbouring countries have containers that wouldn`t have to be transported so far. For example the UN ships millions of plastic bottles of water in a crisis what happend to the empties?

(I think I`ve finally found a way to source those huge water bottles that go on to coolers (cracked and chipped ones of course) for re-using.  :D

Col

Hi Columbus,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things,I have used 4 of those huge water bottles on a wooden carrying beam to grow potatos in so it will work,Ok. I had to use a sharp saw to cut around the bottom though. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on March 12, 2006, 16:34:04
Hi JRP, Hi all,  :D

I think this is a useful thread for bouncing around new ideas and discussing environmental and social issues. Thanks JRP for keeping us on our toes.
If I am able to get the big water containers I will probably use them as cloches because I have had success at liberating all sorts of other containers from skips etc which I am now using for planting that I wouldn`t otherwise have space for. My bigger problem is protecting my crops from insects, birds and rodents.

Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 13, 2006, 00:32:05
Hi Columbus,the only problem I have is with flying snails? As when it's digging or checking crops time near my plot,I find SNAILS are some how landing inside my containers on the top rows. I know snails can climb up anything that get wet,BUT,to be inside one of my containers in the middle of 10,means it had to pass by all the crops growing on the bottom before passing all those growing on the top. I suppose I should say I think it's the birds,BUT,when some people don't like the way you are doing things,it makes me wonder? I'm not talking about young people either,these are in their 80s.
Using the big water containers with a mesh over the top when it's upside down is a good idea,as it being heavy will help in strong winds,and it will let some rain water in,and it will help to keep the birds and insects off your crops too.and any flying snails. ;D ;D ; John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on March 13, 2006, 09:13:30
"flying snails"........now that's something for me to think about today.! Many Thanks for the smile, JRP  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 05, 2006, 23:25:54
Hi ALL,another month gone by again and still no major break through in regards to finding some one to help me to take my idea forward to help the poor.

Whilst we are now having some rainfall in the South East I have now done up all my container caps to save as much water as I can,as I think we are not going to get a lot in the summer.
This year I'm growing a lot more in my pallet sections on my pallet half plot for example. Starting from the front on the left hand side of my plot. (P1) section I've got potato's growing in 50 bottomless 2 litre on the bottom and I've got 50 old onions growing on the top in 2 litre bottomless bottles sown in 2004. (P2) section has got 50 potato's containers on the bottom and 50 old leek growing on the top sown in 2004. (P3) section has got 50 potato containers on the bottom and 50 mixed carrots  containers on the top sown in 2006. (P4) section has got 50 potato containers on the bottom and 50 Parsnip containers on the top sown in 2006. (P5) section has got 50 potato containers on the bottom and 50 Beetroot containers on the top sown in 2006.
I've just started my (A) pallet section with 40 more potato 4 pint containers in side 50 6 pint base containers rows, 1-2-4-5 the third rows I've got my Runner Beans in sown in 2006. (B) (C) have 80 base 6 Pinter's containers in at the moment with their third rows having some more Runner Beans in sown 2006. (D) (E) (F) have Strawberries growing in them on the bottom in 6 Pinter's,with some Herb containers and celery growing on the top rows plus old Spring onions,Sweetpeas and other things. In my (G) section I've got 50 Broad Bean plants growing,in my (H) section I've got French Beans,in my (I) section I've got  lettuces growing,in my (J) (K) (L) sections I've got Peas growing,in my (M) (N) (O) section I've got Tomato's  seedlings growing,in my first pallet section on the right hand side I've got 100 Cabages growing (P2) section I've got 100 Brussels Sprouts growing, (P3) section I've got 100 Broccoli growing, (P4) section I've got mixed onions growing on the bottom in 50 containers and I've got 50 Radish containers on the top, (P5) section I've got 100 Cauliflower growing in it.
All I've got to do now is wait and see what harvest I get. May you all live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 29, 2006, 23:22:22
A POSITIVE INTEREST SHOWN IN MY IDEA.
 ;D Hi Every one who visits this topic, I'm pleased to inform you that I have a very special person coming to see me,and my allotment plot on the 10th May 2006,which was designed by me to grow food to eat,made from waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets.
NO it's not someone who represents Royalty. NO it's not someone who is in Government in the UK or abroad. NO it's not someone from the Council. NO it's not someone who represents a Charity,or a School or anyone from the Environment network,or Waste management,or someone who's Famous either,and it's not someone who's related to me,or from the Media,or someone with lots of money.
YES,it's a lady who was 60 on the 24th of April 2006,and who is the loving mother of 9 children who wants to come and see me personally to talk and see what I have been telling people about,which every one can do too if they use my very simple to make transportable water recycling system to grow things to eat.
This I think is great as she lives in Greenwich,in South East London,which is the same borough I live in,which I hope after our meeting she will tell lots of others about in a positive way on my behalf. Plus I'm going to show about another 30 old folk on the 15th May 2006 my way of growing things,which they will also do too as part of a Age Concern day,which I was asked to do last week when I visited our local Community Centre.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message as it means a lot to me when someone shows so much positive interest in the way I do things.
May you and yours live long and happy. John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MrsKP on April 30, 2006, 05:53:00
great news JRP.  am glad your hard work is attracting some positive attention. it's obviously far too well planned for anysort of government interest !!!!  :P

i still have this page on my "notify" list and always look forward to hearing how you're getting on.

 i'd be interested to see a pick when the system is full of growing things.

keep up the good work.   ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on April 30, 2006, 15:03:01
Hi JRP, Hi all,  :)

Quote
NO it's not someone who represents Royalty. NO it's not someone who is in Government in the UK or abroad. NO it's not someone from the Council. NO it's not someone who represents a Charity,or a School or anyone from the Environment network,or Waste management,or someone who's Famous either,and it's not someone who's related to me,or from the Media,or someone with lots of money.

Which just goes to show that its ordinary people living ordinary lives making quiet small contributions that collectively make a huge difference.

(I just had my green party candidate knock on my  door. I thought he was a bit smarmy, but they`ve got the others running scared around here.)

Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 01, 2006, 23:01:27
great news JRP.  am glad your hard work is attracting some positive attention. it's obviously far too well planned for anysort of government interest !!!!  :P

i still have this page on my "notify" list and always look forward to hearing how you're getting on.

 i'd be interested to see a pick when the system is full of growing things.

keep up the good work.   ;D

 :)Hi Mrs KP,thank you for showing your interset in the way I do things,I will put a photo of this years allotment plot on my website www,recycling.moonfruit.com so you and others can see what it looks like. That's why there is just one photo space left for me to use,then I have used up all my photo website spaces for the price I pay.
May you and yours live long and happy. ;D John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 01, 2006, 23:12:13
Hi JRP, Hi all,  :)

Quote
NO it's not someone who represents Royalty. NO it's not someone who is in Government in the UK or abroad. NO it's not someone from the Council. NO it's not someone who represents a Charity,or a School or anyone from the Environment network,or Waste management,or someone who's Famous either,and it's not someone who's related to me,or from the Media,or someone with lots of money.

Which just goes to show that its ordinary people living ordinary lives making quiet small contributions that collectively make a huge difference.

(I just had my green party candidate knock on my  door. I thought he was a bit smarmy, but they`ve got the others running scared around here.)

Col


 :)Hi Columbus,thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things, I agree with you,that's why sometimes I say when I sign off. Power to the people who are doing their bit,in a waste using way or to help others,because collectively we do make a big difference.
May you and yours live long and happy.  ;D John. JRP.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MrsKP on May 02, 2006, 05:10:54
Wow!!!!   ;D Looking good John !   ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 12, 2006, 00:08:57
;D Hi ALL,what a great day we had on the 10-5-2006,what with it being a very hot and sunny day,and meeting a very positive thinking lady,who I spoke to for at least 3 hours,before she had to make her own way back home again back to South East Greenwich by bus.
With a end result after our meeting being,she said that she will do all she can to help spread the word on my behalf,about my way of growing things after she see my plot. For example she's going to contact the TV Community channle,and use my idea on her own very small back garden space boxed in by high fences and no earth,just concrete to grow food on to eat as she is a vegetarian,and she can cook too,just as well as she is the loving mother of 9 children who enjoys life.
If there's any one else out there who wants to see my plot,and meet me to talk about it,please e-mail me. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 16, 2006, 23:43:22
;D Hi ALL,I'm pleased to inform you that I have met another positive thinking lady who's in direct contact with lots of people,who is going to help to spread the word on my behalf after me showing her and 38 other people my way of growing things,at a Community Centre in Abbeywood on the 15-5-2006 in South East London to do with Age Concern.
Every body in the building was very inpressed with how simple my system was to make,and use,that they all said they will tell others and get in contact with me again so that I can show others too in the future.
It's all happening,I think the ball is rolling at last with so many people saying they like my idea,only time will tell as you know some people say one thing and do another,but if they tell one person that's ok with me,as that one person might tell someone else.
What a great start to this month meeting one lady and now meeting others who are going to help me too.
To the future way of doing things together. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 17, 2006, 13:38:35
;D Hi ALL again,for those who are interested,I was told today the 17-5-2006 that I was on SKY Three,by someone who watched it,but not by the film makers. This is a repeat programm so I will be looking at it with you to see what the end result was after 6 hours of filming to help get my message across.
Tha Secret Life of Suburbia is on at 6am and 6pm,thank you for your time. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 17, 2006, 22:20:06
;D Hi ALL again,all is not lost as we believe I'm on tomorrow the 18-5-2006 at 6pm,because it's to do with eccentric people which I suppose I am to some people. If I'm not on we have missed it too,never mind it might be repeated again in the future,we will have to wait and see,fingers crossed. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Money_Bunny on May 18, 2006, 09:01:58
We'll try and watch the programme, but tearing the kids away from the Simpsons may be a problem! :o

Thanks for the update, we've been reading this thread with interest.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 18, 2006, 23:16:03
We'll try and watch the programme, but tearing the kids away from the Simpsons may be a problem! :o

Thanks for the update, we've been reading this thread with interest.

Hi Money_Bunny,I'm sorry for up setting your family,but it was not on today as we thought it might be. All I can say is the programme is on again next week,and that Tuesday and Thursday have something to do with using, spaces, or gardening. Apart from that we don't know when it's on either. It just said The Secrets Life of Suburbia which I did for SKY 1 back in June 2005. Thank you once again for showing your interest in what I'm doing,fingers crossed it's on next week. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on May 18, 2006, 23:25:25
What a pity I haven't got Sky. Gutted. Would so love to see it.....thinks ???....anyone going to the October meet up of Lotties4 who can tape it and bring it along? We can watch it in my motel room (if your tents don't have mod cons) ;D

All the very best to you John, and best wishes for a successful year for you and your wife.

Lishka
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Money_Bunny on May 19, 2006, 08:34:33


Hi Money_Bunny,I'm sorry for up setting your family,but it was not on today as we thought it might be. All I can say is the programme is on again next week,and that Tuesday and Thursday have something to do with using, space, or gardening. Apart from that we don't know when it's on either. It just said The Secrets of Suburbia which I did for SKY 1 back in June 2005. Thank you once again for showing your interest in what I'm doing,fingers crossed it's on next week. John. J.R.P.

No problem John, We'll keep looking out for ir and did enjoy the programme that was shown anyway. Makes a change to be able to get control of the Tv remote lol
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 29, 2006, 22:22:10
;DHi ALL,it was on at 6pm on the 23-5-2006,and again on the 24-5-2006 at 6am,which I thought would have shown more about the way I do things after spending nearly the whole day filming,but 10 minutes was allowed for each section of the programme,which after editing changed the context of what I said to fit what some people are like,who like to be so different,it became laughable,which I did not know about when I said they could help me to promote me and my ideas.
For a start my names is Pendergast not P(r)endergast,and I live in Eltham in Greenwich not Dartford in Kent,and when I said that I can grow things in the desert,this was said in the context of an example along with other ways. And for me to say that no matter what happen I will not give up my re-use of waste project,was said when I had most of the old folk allotment plot holders against what I was using my allotment plot for,and they were doing things to try and get me off it in many different ways,which I'm pleased to say has died down now. Apart from that it did show me and some of my ideas off to others which someone might have found of interest,which we enjoyed anyway,which I hope others did too. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 11, 2006, 23:32:21
;D Hi All,for those who are interested in container gardening I've just put the benefits of using my very simple to make transportable recycling container system on my website,as it's to do with water and other things which you might like to know about. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: natasha on June 22, 2006, 08:40:38
The shame part was he said that he could not get onto my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,because it was so advanced compared to the ITV one.

May be it is all not that bad and there is a lesson to be learnt from this conversation: make your web site accessible to everyone. If people can't view it - it's not their fault. If there are some good ideas you don't need any fancy presentation.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: OliveOil on June 23, 2006, 09:31:45
Great ideas John = but i must admit about the website - I too find it difficult to read.  White background and dark text is always best - especially for people with visual problems.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 23, 2006, 23:33:56
Hi OliveOil,thank you for showing your interest in my way of doing things,I thought I would use green and yellow to make a change from black and white,but a good point made,I will see what it will look like in black and white to help those like me who have poor site without my glasses if it helps to solve a problem when someone visits my website. Thank you.
May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 02, 2006, 23:17:33
;D Hi ALL,for those who are interested in what I'm doing,I went on the internet and I found someone who might be able to help me to spread the word,as most of what I do involves Permaculture in one way or another. He's a Mr Graham Burnett at www.spiralseed.co.uk who I sent a e-mail to the other day,I'm waiting for a reply. I think I can now call my self an expert on Premaculture on what I've read so far ;D you might like to visit his site to find out more. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 16, 2006, 23:19:26
Hi ALL,I did get a reply from Graham Burnett,but he's extremely busy with other various projects,and life in general.
For those who are interested in the way I do things,I hope to be on SKY Three TV again The Secret Life of Suburbia this week or next at a different time than before,8-30am or 1pm. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 17, 2006, 22:02:08
Great ideas John = but i must admit about the website - I too find it difficult to read.  White background and dark text is always best - especially for people with visual problems.

Hi OliveOil,I've now changed my lettering to white on a black background as you suggested to help to read my text better. OK. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: ACE on July 28, 2006, 13:30:50
Hi all, it has come to my notice that a lot of you are carrying around a lot of moisture in your bodies that is in excess of what you need for normal daily living.
We are in the middle of a drought and your excess moisture could be put to a lot better use. A way of ridding yourself of this valuable comodity is to get in touch withJRP because he must be the best p!ss taker I have ever come across.

Dan,you can ban me from this forum for slagging people off but


              GET REAL YOU PEOPLE
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Curryandchips on July 28, 2006, 15:10:22
On the contrary, Ace, I find JRP's attitude stimulating, whereas your's is just offensive. I trust you will rethink about your post?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Columbus on July 29, 2006, 07:50:54
I`d like to second what Curry just wrote

Col
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Money_Bunny on July 29, 2006, 09:21:16
I'm also in agreement with Curry.

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Admin aka Dan on July 29, 2006, 14:20:58
Dan,you can ban me from this forum for slagging people off but
 GET REAL YOU PEOPLE

ACE,

Thanks for the offer!

But carry on posting, what you wrote was expressing your opinion, it was not overly offensive, or aggressive, but everyone can be left in no doubt about your feelings towards JRP.

Cheers

Dan
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on July 29, 2006, 14:25:47
You've a wise, wise old head on young shoulders, Ower Dan...

Thank you :-*
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: lorna on July 29, 2006, 15:46:10
Dan. I would also like to say Thank you. I would hate to lose Ace from A4A,.
Lorna
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 29, 2006, 21:50:14
ASKING FOR HELP?
 :)Hi ALL,for those who are interesed in my ideas,I sent a e-mail to the Permaculture Council of Management UK the other day to see if they can help me to get my ideas used,and I've sent a e-mail to Sir Cliff Richard too,to see if he can help me,as he believes in tying to help others too,in his own way.
I'm waiting for a reply from both of them,I wonder if I will get a reply, as one has two people at the heart of a big organisation,and the other one is a fames person with a big heart who is in his sixtys too,like me.
 May you and yours live long and happy.  John. J.R.P. 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on July 29, 2006, 21:57:21
Good luck with your emails  John.  :)

Lishka
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: ice on July 30, 2006, 08:07:18
The last page of JRP's site is particularly illuminating, where he recommends thieves have their hand surgically removed by a 'police surgeon' at a police station. In the presence of a judge, of course.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 30, 2006, 22:09:54
PUTTING FORWARD IDEAS.
HI ICE,thank you for showing your interest in my ideas I've put forward to help solve a problem,by the way it was only surgically removing section off of the hands,not the whole hand its self. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: ice on July 31, 2006, 17:00:42
oh, only a section of the hand. that's ok then. for a minute there I thought you might have an extreme attitude towards capital punishment.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: lorna on July 31, 2006, 17:36:31
 :o :o Can't think of an answer to that except. BARBARIC!!!!!!
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Post by: MurphyX on August 06, 2006, 17:15:30
PUTTING FORWARD IDEAS.
HI ICE,thank you for showing your interest in my ideas I've put forward to help solve a problem,by the way it was only surgically removing section off of the hands,not the whole hand its self. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.

And does Sir Cliff approve of your crime reduction suggestions?
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Post by: JRP on August 06, 2006, 22:23:50
Hi Murphyx,thank you for showing your interest in my ideas. I'm sorry but I would not know if Sir Cliff agreed or not as I've had no reply from him to do with saving lives in a helpful way yet.
If you and others want to know the many reasons why I put my crime cutting idea forward,please visit www.theenvironmentsite.org on the forum ( Discussion) ,my topic cutting crime without doing prison time.
May you and yours live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
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Post by: Hyacinth on August 06, 2006, 22:41:05

 my crime cutting idea
  :o

JRP, that remark would be  ;D if it wasn't so damned sick. >:( Sorry, you've lost me on this one.

Lishka
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Post by: MurphyX on August 07, 2006, 10:18:37
Hi Murphyx,thank you for showing your interest in my ideas. I'm sorry but I would not know if Sir Cliff agreed or not as I've had no reply from him to do with saving lives in a helpful way yet.
If you and others want to know the many reasons why I put my crime cutting idea forward,please visit www.theenvironmentsite.org on the forum ( Discussion) ,my topic cutting crime without doing prison time.
May you and yours live long and happy. John.J.R.P.

OMG, I'm sorry I didn't realise this was just a big wind-up.

Well done, very funny.
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Post by: JRP on August 13, 2006, 15:15:28
PROGRESS REPORT SO FAR.
 ;DHi ALL,for those who are interested in the way I do things I've now sent 2 more e-mails,one to Mr Ben Bradshaw and one to Mr Ellot Morley who are both involved in recycling and the environment to see if they can help me to get my ideas used.
The main one is my food growing system,which is proving to be a great success.
Todate I've picked 1,000 strawberries so far from 100 containers,and some are starting to flower again,and I've got some runners with plants on to add into other containers,grown from this years young pants. I've also picked so far 205 French Bean pods and they are still flowering,and I've picked out 200 carrots from only 10 containers so far,with 40 more to go. Beetroots I've picked out 100 so far with 100 more to pull out,  200 Tomatos with lots more to come from my (M) section pallet,plus I've got about the same again in my (N) section pallet,I've cut off over 400 lettuce tops leaving in the roots,Broad Beans I've picked 100 pods to eat and I've resown 50 more beans in the same container again,which are growing. I've picked 120 Runner Beans so far leaving lots of pods on to save to sow next year,plus I've still got lots more beans to come,plus I've already got lots of new growth to add even more. Potatoes,I've picked out 270 so far from my sown bits in my first 2 pallet sections with no water added,plus I've picked out 80 from just 10 containers with some water added with only 10x1 seed potatoes in someone gave me to try out,with another 3 rows still to empty.
Plus I've got loads of spring onions the size of  2p in my bottles to pull out,I would say about 250 more by the look of them,plus I've picked 110 Radish's from my first 2 rows leaving all the rest to go to seed,which I've used the old seeds pods seeds again in the same bottles,and they are now growing too.
NOW comes the sad part for me,most of my Cabbages,Brussle sprouts,Broccoli,and Cauliflowers havebeen eaton by catterpillers or birds,why because they were the only ones growing before the rest of the plot holders,which I won't do next time. Apart from that isent it great when you can grow your own food to eat. Thank you for taking the time to read my message. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: lorna on August 13, 2006, 15:55:38
All fingers needed to pick and pull all that produce then.
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Post by: Hyacinth on August 13, 2006, 16:16:47
All fingers needed to pick and pull all that produce then.

 ::) :P  ;D

Lorna, you're the Best!  :-*





Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 15, 2006, 22:52:25

 my crime cutting idea
  :o

JRP, that remark would be  ;D if it wasn't so damned sick. >:( Sorry, you've lost me on this one.

Lishka

Hi,seeing as you want to talk about cutting things off,what do you think we should do to a ( GUILTY) rapist who does something to someone els by choice. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on August 16, 2006, 08:23:38
My thoughts on corporal/capital punishment in general are neither here not there and not relevant to this thread. Yours, because they are part of your philosophy and which ice has brought to our attention, are.

If you wish to widen discussions on the topic of effective punishments for crimes in and against our society, perhaps The Watershed would be a more approppriate place - my friends and I welcome all sorts of debate there 8)

   
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MurphyX on August 16, 2006, 14:34:35
All fingers needed to pick and pull all that produce then.

ROFLMFAO !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on August 16, 2006, 15:27:05
Our Lorna's the BEST, isn't she? 8) ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 16, 2006, 20:51:46
Hi Alishka_Maxwell,thank you for the invite,the reason I have not put my cutting crime idea on any A4All forum is for example some people did not like my idea and complained on selfsufficientish website,who then locked it,but I'm pleased to say the environment website has let me and others make our points,which I'm sure would be good to discuss on A4ALL,if I could transfer all what's been written by copying and pasting I would.
YES,I would have preferred to talk about my recycling idea but no one posted a reply to my last post in a positive way,I will visit the shed forum to see if it's worth putting my idea forward as crime effects us all whether we like it or not. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MurphyX on August 16, 2006, 22:56:59
John, I think your crime cutting ideas may be a little medeval medeavil medeeval old fashioned.

But I must say that I liked your plan for housing the homeless in unwanted cars. I think this idea could run and run. It definitely has some serious mileage in it

As far as the growing-vegetables-in-plastic-milk-bottles idea goes; my question would be....HUH?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: davee52uk on September 10, 2006, 20:37:00
1. I compost clothes - wool and cotton works great.

2. I am trying compost shredded paper - all the junk mail etc goes through a shredder and then into bins; seems to work O.K.

3. Use pallets for making compost bins.

4. Use plastic bottles for crop protection of small plants from animals and the cold.
Will be trying to use bottles as slug traps.

5. Used to use old engine oil, after oil change for preserving wood on shed.

6. Use wire for old electrical appilance for trying up crops. Once used cabling left over from a computer network for growing grapes on.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 11, 2006, 10:53:53
Hi ALL,I'm going to visit WISLEY GARDENS on the 13-9-2006 along with lots of others as part of a FREE DAY run by our Greenwich Council.
I'm also going to take with me one of my 4 base container rows with 8 others to go inside them,to show of my very simple to make transportable water recycling system to grow things in. I'm only going to promote my idea,So I will only be interested in their container gardening section,as I don't grow anythings in the ground my self,even though we have a nice looking laid out garden ourselves. Plus I hope this will also help to promote the re-use of some of our waste instead of it going into landfill sites in the UK,and in the rest of the world.
I've tried asking what it seems the mountain to come to me,this way I'm going to the mountain in person you could say, with lots of others who are interested in growing things,plus I might have the chance to speak to one of their experts to get my idea used in some way too.
Please let me know if your going ,so we can look out for each other on what I hope will be a nice day,for all of us,who enjoying growing things on a large or small scale. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
_________________
Message from J.R.P. Recycling, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com as it was
designed by me to help to save millions of lives
and to reuse-recycle millions of tonnes of waste
plastic container,and unwanted wooden pallets
too.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 13, 2006, 14:54:40
 :( ;DHi ALL,what bad luck I've had in regards to me going to Wisley Gardens to show off my idea to so many people,who grow things and are great at re-using things too.
The sad part for me is I hurt my back again on Monday the  12-9-2006,so I could not go my self. The good news is I gave my invite to a nice lady who is interested in my ideas,to the point she offered to help me by handing out my website information cards. I was told by the lady who organised it,that with such a good responce they hope to have another free day in the future. I won't bother to post this message on any of the other topics of mine as recommended by other. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on September 13, 2006, 16:12:58
I'm sorry to read of the knock-back you've had. You must be so disappointed. You're obviously so passionate about what you do, you deserve a break....

Lishka
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 14, 2006, 22:11:43
 :-[Hi Lishka,thank you for careing,may you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 24, 2006, 21:48:54
 ;DHi ALL,it's me again trying to promote my ideas. For those who haven't seen me on SKY Three TV yet,I should be on again tomorrow 25-9-2006 at 10 30am or one day in the week. The Secret Life Of, to do with Gardening in suburbia is my topic. If I can save one life by posting on this website I think its got to be worth it,I'm sorry if you think I'm wasting my time as I'm no further than I was 8 years ago,but if someone out there can help me to get my ideas used or up and running,they might like to take a look to see if they can help me in some way by watching the TV programme. May we all live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 01, 2006, 14:08:49
 :)Hi ALL who's interested in what I'm doing. I'm very pleased to inform you about what's happen to me last week. First I was on SKY Three TV again at 10 30am. Then I met someone who had seen me and wanted to help me,because she into reusing things and she can't dig any more,and she thought it would be a good project for her Community to get involved in. This was seconds before I walked in through the door of the community - shop to give them one of my small cards to let them know about my website and what I did. From that moment on everyone their has wanted to know more about my container growing system,to the point I've volunteered to be part of their team to help promote the reuse of waste plastic containers in their borough of Bromley,by having rows of my tower container system put up by me all around their newly designed back yard area,which I've already started to do by putting sheets of green chicken wire panels in place against their open rail fencing to form a screen.
Plus on the same day at the same place I met the local lady vicor who thought my very simple to make system was great,and she said she would help to spread the word,and get her flock involved too.
At last I've found people who are doers who do their bit to help others in lots of different ways. If you missed me on TV last week,I'm on again this week at 10 30am one day.
I'm sorry if you are getting fedup with me keep on posting,but there are some people out there who want to know things,and there are some people who don't,anyway,
May we all live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: caroline7758 on October 02, 2006, 08:28:14
Certainly admire your persistence, JRP! I'll look out for the tv programme this week.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 02, 2006, 22:59:06
1. I compost clothes - wool and cotton works great.

2. I am trying compost shredded paper - all the junk mail etc goes through a shredder and then into bins; seems to work O.K.

3. Use pallets for making compost bins.

4. Use plastic bottles for crop protection of small plants from animals and the cold.
Will be trying to use bottles as slug traps.

5. Used to use old engine oil, after oil change for preserving wood on shed.

6. Use wire for old electrical appilance for trying up crops. Once used cabling left over from a computer network for growing grapes on.


Hi Davee52 uk,it's nice to know that there are other people out there doing their bit to reuse things. May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 02, 2006, 23:06:09
Certainly admire your persistence, JRP! I'll look out for the tv programme this week.

Hi Caroline7758,thank you. May you and yours live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
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Post by: Emagggie on October 04, 2006, 07:03:20
Just seeing if anything happens when i try to post this ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on October 04, 2006, 08:19:37
It's lonely out here  :'( I posted this as a reply in most recent posts.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Palustris on October 04, 2006, 09:18:12
Very difficult. Try the Chat lounge,that is still open.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: triffid on October 04, 2006, 09:22:46
Aha! I can send a reply, but for the life of me can only see the last post (in the most recent posts bit). This is going to make talking problematic!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: triffid on October 04, 2006, 09:25:46
Come and join us in the chat room -- still warm and welcoming!
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Post by: Palustris on October 04, 2006, 19:46:23
Still no sign of Dan the man though!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 05, 2006, 00:20:01
 :)Hi ALL who are interested in the way I do things. To day the 5-11-2006 I reveal my latist design in a upright transportable growing system,which is my latist project to help those who have not a lot of space on the ground surface,but have a fence or railings or a wall going round it,which could be used to help hold it in place. I designed it for children to use or someone in a wheelchair or someone who can't dig any more. I've added 3 photos to my Cereal Crop Growing photo page for you to look at,and I've changed others on my 3 other Crop Growing pages too,which I hope will change your mind about digging in the future. My Project is to be used by our local community to show a different way of growing things,and to have fun too doing it, by adding some colours to the containers to show who's who's when in use. With a end result of a Private back yard with lots of coloured plastic containers surrounding it,with lots of different things growing in them, which also has a new green wire screen as a backing too,attached to railings which go all the way round it. Which my 3 photo show the first 3 stages of on my website. I have other designs for you to look at in the future which I hope you will find of interest too. May you and yours live long and happy to see lots of fireworks. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 05, 2006, 13:25:25
 ;D :)Hi ALL,it has been suggested I put a link in my message to the relevent page on my website,because it might get more people looking.which is www.recycling.moonfruit.com
 ??? But if I did that people might not look at anything else,in regards to helping to spreading the word. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 12, 2006, 18:09:21
 ;D :-[Hi ALL,whilst looking at  www.vortexs-veg-patch.blogspot.com website on allotments uk website,it was great to see some photos on his website of my container system being used to grow things,with this in mind please visit his website to see some proof that it works in the simplist of ways. John J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MurphyX on December 10, 2006, 16:44:30
Seems like a bit of a waste of space and quite an eyesore.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 24, 2006, 01:39:10
 :)Hi everyone,may I take this opportunity to wish you all a very Happy Christmas,and a very Happy New Year 2007 too. ;D ;)
I will look forward to shareing some more ideas with you in the future.
May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 08, 2007, 01:49:23
 ;D :)Hi ALL ,for those who have a polytunnel and want to recycle rain water,which does not fall on their crops because they are covered by the polytunnel.
May I share another new idea of mine with you which I believe as not been tried before AS IF I HAD a polytunnle which I believe is a good idea to use.
MY IDEA IS, I would make up a system to catch all the rain water which would normally run off the polytunnel, which I then would make go into a water butt done in a simple way.
First I would buy some cheap plastic guttering or long lengths of plastic pipe which I would saw down the middle to give me two halfs each time,these I would support by putting 2-4 say 10ft bean canes or less at the furthest end corners,and I would sink them in about 1 foot,then I would laydown alongside my polytunnel all my lengths of guttering until it came out enough to flow into 2 water butts,one on each side of where I would walk in,putting 4 canes to support where the ends of each gutter over lapped each other,so that no water leaked,held in place by what ever you had like tape or string. This I would do on both sides right next to the cover so my guttering was sloping down towards my water butts resting on bean canes spaced out in 4s at each overlap joint.
I would then put a length of guttering along the back of the futhest end sloping from one side to another a bit,resting on the top of my 2 side gutterings where  the 4 canes are on each corner,but a bit shorter so that any rain water will drip down into the side ones,held in place by what ever you are using.
Next is how I would get my rain water into my guttering which is away from the side of my polytunnel. I would use any sheet of plastic for example,bin liners cut in 4 - 6 inch wide long strips or green bags or even shopping bages would work over lapping each other too..
NOW COMES THE BEST BIT,I would get a real of sticky tape of some sort which will stick to the polytunnel cover material,I would then lay all my lengths of plastic in line with my guttering so that some of it can be stuck to the polytunnel cover and some lays in the guttering not stuck. JOB DONE.
What I would have then is a polytunnel with a attached flap like system that lays inside my guttering which slopes down into my two water butts supported by bean canes,I would then lay some more bean canes down on top of the flaps inside the guttering to help hold it in place. This way would also work if my polytunnel was on a slope too.
It's up to you now whether you try it or not,I have over 8,000 small water buts I use so I'm ok. May you and yours live long and happy.  Happy New Year 2007. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: JRP on January 09, 2007, 01:22:55
 ;D Hi ALL,I've just noticed that I have not been telling you that I have a website.
I'm now going to put that right,it's www.recycling.moonfruit.com. ;D
designed to help save lives.
Once again may I wish you and yours a Happy New Year 2007. John. J.R.P. ;D
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Post by: Merry Tiller on January 09, 2007, 07:27:38
Just a comment on your polytunnel water gathering idea, I believe that high winds would cause it to destroy itself. There are already better ideas for achieving this anyway.

Oh and by the way, I think the milk carton ideas are completely raving but hey, it takes all sorts
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: glow777 on January 09, 2007, 08:45:36
;D Hi ALL,I've just noticed that I have not been telling you that I have a website.
I'm now going to put that right,it's www.recycling.moonfruit.com. ;D
designed to help save lives.
Once again may I wish you and yours a Happy New Year 2007. John. J.R.P. ;D
looks like you did 5 posts higher up!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 10, 2007, 01:06:57
Just a comment on your polytunnel water gathering idea, I believe that high winds would cause it to destroy itself. There are already better ideas for achieving this anyway.

Oh and by the way, I think the milk carton ideas are completely raving but hey, it takes all sorts


Hi Merry Tiller,thank you for showing your interest in my idea,yes I did not allow for the strong wind side of things,but there's a far simpler way which might already be used. You could do the same thing with rows of buckets or the like positioned in the curve part of the polytunnel cover,with a brick or stones laid inside them to keep them in place.
As for my container idea it works very well thank you.  ;D
May you and yours live long and happy. John. J.R.P.

www.recycling.moonfruit.com designed to help save lives.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 25, 2007, 17:18:59
 ;D Hi ALL,how are things going if you are using any of my ideas,I would like to know.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Trixiebelle on February 25, 2007, 18:06:30
  ;D Hi JRP! I'm not using any of your ideas 'yet' because I've lost my whetstone to sharpen my hatchets! A right shame .... I'll find it yet though!

Did Sir Cliff ever answer your mails about your unique digging ideas?

You wanna watch him you know ... I'm a good friend of Sue Barker and she's got a few tales to tell.
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Post by: Hyacinth on February 25, 2007, 18:11:43
 

You wanna watch him you know ... I'm a good friend of Sue Barker and she's got a few tales to tell.

You cannot leave us like this........can you? ::)
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Post by: Trixiebelle on February 25, 2007, 18:15:56
I have testimony from a few ball-boys! It's going to be an EXPLOSIVE article in The Sun prior to Wimbledon Week. Watch this space  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 25, 2007, 18:26:32
  ;D Hi JRP! I'm not using any of your ideas 'yet' because I've lost my whetstone to sharpen my hatchets! A right shame .... I'll find it yet though!

Did Sir Cliff ever answer your mails about your unique digging ideas?

You wanna watch him you know ... I'm a good friend of Sue Barker and she's got a few tales to tell.

Hi Trixiebelle, NO sir Cliff never did he must of had his hands full. ::) ;D .
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 12, 2007, 00:12:40
Hi ALL,if your interested in the way I do things,and if you are using my plastic container system idea. What's happening my own potatoes top leaves are now starting to come up through my compost, which were bought from ASDAs which I put in on the 30-12-2006,so I've decided to make up a lot of extension sleeves to fit inside my 4 or 6 pint cut upside down milk containers,so that I can earth them up so to speak another 4 inches like you would do to get more potatoes. All I've done is to cut off the round part with the cap on from the base just below the handle, so when it's fitted inside another 4 or 6 pinter it rests on the inside flat part of the milk container so that the handle hole meets forming a seal,I can then add more compost as the potato plant grows. I've saved the cut off section to use for putting some seeds in, as it rests on the cap ok. My lettuce seedlings are also coming up ok sown in chinese take away flat plastic containers which were sown on the 23-2-2007, Cos and little gem,going by how many seedling I've got I should be able to grow at least 200 of each easily in just two pallet sections with two growing in each container like I did last year. My community project is going well now we are up and running,this year we hope to make some headlines as a group of people who are interested in growing things like hearbs and other things,which the local community can help them selves to when the lerning centre is open if they want fresh herbs at any time, if they have not got a garden for example. Plus we have a creche for people who are learning things so we are going to get their children to grow things too,and then put them in to our containers outside in the back yard area to grow on,designed for all ages. Which are fixed to the railings going around the yard to save using the play or seating area we intend to use in the summer. The local lady vicar is also going to have the same idea going around the back of the church so the people who use her church and the hall can grow things too. Like Age Concern. I will try to get some other people to talk about our project to you on this forum as it would be nice to hear what they had to say good or bad,like some people already do on here.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 19, 2007, 00:55:42
 ;D  Hi ALL,I've just finished putting my last potatoes in with a bit of growth on them into my 4 pinters and 2 litre bottles,and I've just emptied out 80 small potatoes from my 5th pallet section on the left hand side of my plot,sown on the 8-2-2006 YES, 8-2-2006,a bit small and they have started to put out roots too but they are ok.
This makes my total of containers with potatoes in 450,that should keep us going until my family give me some more potatoes they were going to throw away,bought from ASDAs. If you look at my plot photos you will see 5 pallets sections on the left side,and 3 front middle ones,these are my A-B-C sections with my D section one behind my A section from left to right,my E-F sections have strawberries growing in them on their bottom section.My newly made extension sleeves are working great with the top leaves now coming through in my 4 pinters already, sown on the 30-12-2006. I can't wait to see what crop I will get. ;D May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: davee52uk on March 28, 2007, 20:36:58
Some ideas for you:

1. Old cans - particularly small ones used for canned fish - cut in strips and use for supporting glass panes in a greenhouse.

2. Old engine oil - use instaed of creosote on sheds

3. Not a very green approach but - put boxes and documents through a shredder and then into teh compost heap. Worms seem to like the paper layer.

4. Newspaper and cardboxes - cut into small pieces and place in bottom of trench where runner beans are to be grown - retains water.

5. Plastic drain pipe - cut into a long thin piece and use a blades for wind turbine.

6. Old electric motor - use as generator on wind turbine.

7. Police tape at accident - use as birdscarer.

8. Old video tape - tie very tightly between posts - very good bird scarer - move and makes a noise in teh wind.

9. Plastic bottles on sticks - agin bird scarer -keeps pigeons off brassicae.

10. Pollard trees to produce free bean poles rather than buying bamboo.

11. Plastic wrapped around furniture - draped over sticks - amkes an effective warm area for cucumber etc

12. Roof lath - very good pea sticks

13. Bubble plastic - heat sink in cold frames

14. Drinks bottles painetd in matt black - heat sink in greenhouse.

15. Wool carpet - suppresses weeds until plot is ready to be cultivated - short term use only.
Carpet will rot and then can be put into compost bin.

16. Clothes such as wool and cotton will rot in a compost bin.

17. Plastic boxes - particularly margerine tubs make very good seed tray labels when cut into short strips.

18. Plastic bottles with both top and bottom removed - cut into a long collar - give plant protection from mice rabbits and deer (a real problem where we are - even in a town).

19. Old tights or cycle inner tubes - good for tethering small trees.

20. Old drain pipes - can make an effective flag pole or a pole for munting a small wind turbine.

21. Scaffolding on building always means cable ties - these can be re-used and will find 100's of uses on a plot.

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Post by: JRP on March 29, 2007, 00:04:36
Hi Davee52UK,thank you for sharing your ideas with us.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: okra on March 29, 2007, 14:58:56
some great recycling tips - what is it about lottie holders and recycling - they definetly seem to go together
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Post by: JRP on March 29, 2007, 23:49:59
;D Hi Okra,I think it's just because we are down to earth people who like to do things in our own ways.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: JRP on April 04, 2007, 00:08:14
;D Hi ALL,another update,I've just finished putting 150 Little Gem lettuce seedlings into my (J) section pallet, and about 500 mixed carrot seedlings too,I've also put 190 Cos lettuce seedlings into my (O) section pallet, plus another 100 carrot seedings too. Today I've undone a bit my upright container caps, so they drip feed the ones bellow at my Community learning centre project, which is closed to my other helpers because of a Easter break.
With this in mind I hope you and yours all have a happy Easter. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: JRP on April 27, 2007, 09:20:03
;DHi ALL,please join me in my latest experiment to see if you do get more potatoes if you keep earthing up your potato plant stems and leaves.
Simply done by using a container,for example a flower pot will do,simply do what you would normally do,but when the green leaves start to come through your compost add another bigger flower pot on top with the bottom cut out to fit inside the rim of the lower one to form a sleeve extension,earthing up each time and adding a sleeve again until you decide to stop or the plant stops growing any higher.
The reason I'm asking you to join me is I'm already doing it my way with 4 pint waste milk containers for the first time this year, and it's looking ok, I just simply cut off the lower cap part at the widest part and slide it down inside another, and earth up with my compost.
If I do get more potatoes doing it this way I can see a lot of people with not a lot of space growing potatoes this way in the future,done by simply adding a extension sleeve system like I've done to my containers on my allotment plot. It's just another outside the box idea of mine I would like to share with you, which you might find of interest to try out to see what your end result will be on a small or large scale,please let me know how you get on. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ;D
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Post by: JRP on May 28, 2007, 00:51:52
;D Hi ALL, if you went to see or exhibited something growing at the CHELSEA FLOWER SHOW this year or in the past, would you like to see the way I grow things exhibited there, as I've been sent an invite to next years show, because my projects are to do with saving lives, reusing waste, and growing things, which all come under the heading 'Gardening with Climate Change'. Of cause I wont the answer to be Yes, and the reason why, but if you don't then say so, and the reason why, as they say it's good to talk if it helps to solve a problem. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on May 28, 2007, 14:19:11
So what's the problem to be solved JRP?
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Post by: Jeannine on May 28, 2007, 15:13:27
Beats me, I don't even understand the question?
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Post by: cornykev on May 28, 2007, 17:18:44
I'm lost, who's lives are you saving. ? ???
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Post by: MrsKP on May 28, 2007, 17:33:19
Catch up.  Even I can make it out.

John, if you want maximum publicity, then I'd say go for it.  They must be interested to send the invite.
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Post by: Jeannine on May 28, 2007, 17:33:37
You know,I just read this again,I am not a lot wiser,but , I would enjoy seeing JRP's exhibit next year.I thin k that would be very interesting, truly.

I think I read it right when he said he has already received an invitation to exhibit there next year, after that I get a bit lost, is he asking for our opinion on wether he should enter.

JRP, will you clarify this for me please

XX Thank you Jeannine
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Post by: MrsKP on May 28, 2007, 17:37:41
That's how I read it.   ;D
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Post by: legendaryone on May 28, 2007, 17:44:11
Emaggie and Jennine, John wants to know if people want him to accept the invite he has for next years Chelsea flower show.
Cornykev, John has a system of growing crops in empty plastic milk bottles which he thinks can save the people in lands with famine etc. Here is his website
http://www.recycling.moonfruit.com/
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Post by: lorna on May 28, 2007, 17:59:37
Just can't understand him wanting our opinions.  Surely nobody would refuse an invitation to exhibit at the show?
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Post by: Jeannine on May 28, 2007, 18:03:28
Yes that is the bit I don't understand,I know his website and what he is trying to do on it,but he is he wanting us to tell him he should go. If that is it, then yes, go for it JRP, that is my feeling. If they have sent you a defiante invitation I certainly think you should go, XX Jeannine
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Post by: JRP on May 28, 2007, 18:21:45
 ;D  Hi Jeannine, thank you for your positive thaughts,   :-[ I'm very sorry ALL but I should have said, I've been invited TO APPLY to exhibit at the Chelsea Flower Show.  :-[
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, John. J.R.P.  :)
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Post by: Jeannine on May 28, 2007, 18:22:50
Is that what you needed John,our opinion? XX Jeannine
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Post by: JRP on May 28, 2007, 19:20:50
  :-[ Hi ALL, I'm very sorry but I should have said, I've been invited TO APPLY to exhibit at the Chelsea Flower Show.  :-[ , and yes I would like your opinions. Thank you. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: Jeannine on May 28, 2007, 19:25:11
Oh I see, well  I still think you should go for it XX Jeannine
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Post by: Emagggie on May 28, 2007, 20:05:15
Ah yes, I see now. I thought you had a definate invite and I couldn't understand why you would hesitate if it's what you want to do.
I know I'd go for it  in your place JRP ;)
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Post by: lorna on May 28, 2007, 21:40:19
I would have thought anybody would be happy to apply, although maybe the expense would be a no go for some people (?) Go for it.
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Post by: JRP on June 07, 2007, 08:46:09
 ;D Thank you very much for your support.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 07, 2007, 08:47:39
;D Hi ALL, for those of you who are interested in my reuse of waste projects ideas, I will be showing my container gardening ideas off to others on Saturday the 9th June, at the MOTTINGHAM FESTIVAL, held on the Mottinham Sports Ground ( Foxes Fields ) Grove Park Road, from 1 - 5pm. I will be set up next to the Tombola and refreshment stand.
If you are interested in have a good time why not come and see me and others, I'm sure it wont be a waste of your time. John. J.R.P.  ;D
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Post by: Froglegs on June 07, 2007, 09:35:04
Mottingham ???
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Post by: legendaryone on June 07, 2007, 14:25:51
It's a real place froglegs not a misspelling of Nottingham, it's in London.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 07, 2007, 23:48:46
 ;D I'm sorry I mist off a g in Mottingham and I did not say Mottingham SE9.  :-[
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Post by: JRP on June 10, 2007, 01:21:34
;D Hi ALL, what a great day we had yesterday the 9th, when I exhibited my two projects off to lots of people who had come to our Mottingham Fete SE9. It was worm with a cool breeze but no rain even though we had a few rain clouds pass over what was going on. I managed to get into my 4 door car with a lift up window and boot one brokendown pallet section into the back of my car, along with 70 crops in their containers on their carrying beams, plus extra bags of containers too, and 10-8ft bean cane plus a 8ft-4ft folded up full size drawing of my own allotment plot I did to show others what my plot looked like from above. I've been taking lots of photos of what I've been doing lately which I will be adding to my website soon, which will be mostly of my Community project this time which you may also like to try. I will be starting another project at our local Church soon, which will also be about growing things in containers vertically with the help of Age Concern, hopefully going all the way along a 25ft length of metal fencing they have alongside a walkway at the side of the church, which the old folk can use to grow things. We are also having a open day at the Mottingham Community Learning Centre-Shop on Friday the 15th from 12am until 7pm, which will also help to promote the way we grow things, and it will also help to promote what the Learning Shop as to offer to the local community too. I will give you another update soon, in the mean time.  ;D
 May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: Jeannine on June 10, 2007, 10:41:45
JRP, could you please put some phot'os of your harvested veggies on here for usXX Jeannine
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Post by: Biscombe on June 10, 2007, 11:43:58
I would like to see what you are harvesting too!  :)
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Post by: Trixiebelle on June 10, 2007, 18:37:07
I've been a bit perturbed about the amount of plastic milk-cartons I've had to take to the recycling place recently.

So I've signed up to the local milk delivery place that delivers it in GLASS bottles that I can give them back.

I'm also a bit reticent to grow my lovely veg in a plastic container.

All very well if it's going to benefit people who can't grow veg elsewhere (as in soil etc) but I'd rather not surround my potatoes with a semi-opaque excuse for a milk-bottle.

I CAN ORDER MILK WITHOUT GETTING IT DELIVERED IN PLASTIC CARTONS? CAN YOU?
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Post by: Trixiebelle on June 10, 2007, 18:40:58
May your milk live long in the fridge and your yogurts be free of bacteria
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Post by: JRP on June 17, 2007, 17:20:57
;D HI ALL, on Friday the 15-6-2007 was our open day, which was at our Mottingham Community Learning Centre-Shop, Cranley Parade, Beaconsfield Road, London SE9, for people to come and see what's on offer. I had lots of interest shown in our Reuse of waste plastic containers idea to grow things in, which we have going all the way around the edge of our back yard area. With this in mind I'm now in the process of putting lots of new photos onto my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com to cover my 2nd new project, which we have up and running now, with another one starting just around the corner at our local Church St. Andrews sometime next week, which I will also be adding some photos of once we have start it The Sad News is after us having a good day with lots of people calling in to see us, we were then told that the Bromley Council said that they will be shutting the Community Learning Centre-Shop down because of the lack of funds at the end of the month, so we have now started a petition up, which we are asking people to sign to help stop this from happening in the future.  :( In the mean time may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: Jeannine on June 17, 2007, 19:40:13
Hey John, did you see the post from that lady from the newspaper who  put a post on here,she wanted to make contact with folks with allotmments that had a story, it was only a week or so back,take a look for it, XX Jeannine
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Post by: JRP on June 17, 2007, 23:37:45
;D Hi Jeannine, thank you for trying to help me spread the word, but tomorrow the 18-6-2007 we are having the press come to our Mottingham Community & Learning Shop to do a story about us at 10am and 11am, I will let you know how we got on, plus I have put my first photos on my website about my 2nd project today, which will be one of many I hope you find of interest.  ;D
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: JRP on June 28, 2007, 23:17:25
 ;D Hi ALL, My NEW website 2nd Community project photos are now all on it for you to look at, I hope you find them of interest.  :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 02, 2007, 00:36:15
 :-[ Hi ALL, today the 1-7-2007 I give you notice that I have removed the topic on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com about CUTTING CRIME, as its got nothing to do with trying to help the poor people in our world, and Re-using and Recycling some of our waste, and Gardening, which I designed my website for. With this in mind could you please spread the word, as I need all the help I can get to help others. THANK YOU VERY MUCH IF YOU CAN DO THIS FOR ME.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: cornykev on July 03, 2007, 17:41:30
John have you seen the error of your ways, and have come to the conclusion that cutting off body parts is actually not the way forward in CUTTING crime.   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Barnowl on July 04, 2007, 16:22:43
What? Are you suggesting John was wrong?
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Post by: Hyacinth on July 04, 2007, 16:37:19
What? Are you suggesting John was wrong?

 :'( I'm still believing that John holds these views most sincerely but has also realized - finally - that they're a turn-off  for peeps, set as he is on his Road to Fame....

 :-\


 
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Post by: Trixiebelle on July 04, 2007, 18:09:26
:-[ Hi ALL, today the 1-7-2007 I give you notice that I have removed the topic on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com about CUTTING CRIME, as its got nothing to do with trying to help the poor people in our world

ROFPMSL!

Oh .. well done JRP for recognising the dubious connection between your 'cutting crime' theories and helping the world's poor. Kofi Annan would be proud ... honestly!

E Mail him! I know for a fact he gets milk delivered in 6 pint bottles made out of plastic from sustainable plastic forests and he doesn't like Mugabe or JK Rowling.

Mugabe@Kofi&Rowling.com
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Post by: Jeannine on July 04, 2007, 19:44:16
Well done John, XX
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Post by: cornykev on July 06, 2007, 15:10:54
Hang on, I think his cut his own tongue off, he must have been a naughty boy.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: SnooziSuzi on July 06, 2007, 22:22:24
... the Paul O'Grady show on ITV .... not the type of allotment plot that they were looking for. It was not bizarre enough...

Was just looking through old posts....

JRP this doesn't surprise me one bit. 

This very show wanted to do a feature on Forensic techniques with a few people I work with on a Police Forensics training site but instead of them allowing us to show a crime scene as it really is they wanted to make it all CSI'd and wanted a stupid chalked outline of a body and cheesy things like that.  That's not how it's done!! 

They just want to show stuff that makes THEM look good, not the guests.  Can't stand bloody Paul O'Grady.
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Post by: emmy1978 on July 12, 2007, 09:06:54

Mugabe@Kofi&Rowling.com

You bad girl, you made my tea come out of my nose.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 27, 2007, 23:47:21
 :-[ Hi ALL,this message is for all those people who know people who have allotment plots or do farming where it has flooded, or for any body else who cares about others, whilst I'm sure most of the people do already know what ever they have growing now they must not eat it, why because of it being contaminated, and the contamination is now covering a wide area of land, to the point that all the crop growing farmers who have been effected, are now saying the land is going to be no good to use anymore, for many years in the future.
With this in mind I know how I can help them, done by you simply helping me to spread the word, that they can still grow things in containers, which they lay out on top of the contaminated land, using my very simple to make transportable growing system to grow something in, designed to helps them in a flood situation like I've been offering to the rest of the world for many years now. In the West of the country people have been flooded, it would make me feel good, and I'm sure it would make you feel good too, to know that someone is going use my idea after you trying to help me to spread the word.
This way they can still carry on growing things to eat or to make a living, instead of just giving up because they can no longer use the land that's been contaminated by what ever for many years to come. There must be thousands of containers of all shapes and sizes the people have had to use to hold water, simply fill them now with cheap compost and grow something to eat, instead of sending them mostly to the landfill sites, along with all the rest of the rubbish the floods have created I say.
I know that there are already lots of people out there who know my system works, I do believe now is the time for all of them to tell others, so we can help those who do need all the help they can get right now in the UK where it has been flooded..
For those who do not know what I'm talking about please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, and thank you for taking the time to read my important message. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: cambourne7 on July 27, 2007, 23:59:30
Hi JRP,

In a year we have an area ( currently covered in hard core ) converted back into a plot.

I was wondering if you would be able to help us replicate you allotment idea but adapted for someone in a wheelchair?

Cambourne7
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Post by: JRP on July 28, 2007, 17:37:26
Hi Cambourne7, thank you for showing your interest in the way I grow things,
YES my pallet section were designed already for someone in a wheelchair, all you would have to do is make up a section, but only use the top rows to grow things, so that the chair goes under them with the person in it, done by laying a sheet of wood on the inside of the uprights of the pallet section, so that the containers can be got to from both sides. If you did decide to build a allotment plot like mine with a wheelchair in mind, then I wood simply cover all of the decking pallets in sheets of wood, with a ramp at one end to come on and off of, with some small holes made in them to help with water runoff. What I will try and do is to get my Mother-in-law to sit in her chair under a section to show you how it can be done, or even my self, it's a shame you are not on my site as I would have liked to build it with you, just to make things essayer for you.
If you want to know more please ask me, as others I'm sure would like to know too.  ;D May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: Jeannine on July 29, 2007, 01:53:51
JRP, I think on the other post someone said you enjoy causing anxiety, I now believe he is right I will not repond to your evil comments anymore as I feel it is just fuel for your fire, your ridiculous comments about the flood have already caused pain for 2 people I know. I hope you are satisfied now. You have indeed caused anxiety, are you ever staisfied enough to stop hurting folks.

Pressing the ignore button you now
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Post by: JRP on July 31, 2007, 00:31:44
Hi JRP,

In a year we have an area ( currently covered in hard core ) converted back into a plot.

I was wondering if you would be able to help us replicate you allotment idea but adapted for someone in a wheelchair?

Cambourne7

 ;D  ::) Hi Cambourne7 again, I just had a thought about making my system essayer for you and others to make if you want too.
Simply make up a ( H ) frame on legs higher enough for someone to sit under in their wheelchair, so they can go under it from all sides, made to hold my carrying beams in place, I would simply bang in long nails so that the beams were trapped in-between them to keep them from moving.
So say you had lengths of 3-2, you then make it look like a table without its top on, with a length of 3-2 across the middle only.
What you should end up with is a solid looking  ( H ) frame nailed or screwed together with 4 or 6 upright legs, with rows of long nails on the top, and it is high enough for someone in their wheelchair to sit under, on a surface that will let the person in the wheelchair attend to their crop growing containers from both ends or sides at all times, in all weathers if they want to.  ;D
I sorry if you think I shout a lot, but I'm only trying to make people take note of a problem that I think they should know about, if I think it's important enough, but sometimes I wished I hadn't bothered. 
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  :)
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Post by: glosterwomble on July 31, 2007, 07:25:41
Whilst not wanting to be involved in this man's thread as such, I felt that I really must post a reply to his statement that our land is now contaminated by the floods.

What is this man on?????????? ???

There will undoubtedly be areas that have been flooded by sewage but the majority of the areas have been flooded by normal rain/river water.
The land is NOT contaminated, people and farmers have lost crops because they have been flooded out NOT because of contamination.

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Post by: JRP on August 15, 2007, 23:10:12
 ;D Hi All, for those who are interested in the way I do things, and for those who would like to see something different, please visit my website as I've just put some new photos on it of my third reuse of waste project, which is now up and running at our local Community Church called St Edwards, in Mottingham, London, SE9. which is helping me to spread the word in the local Community. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  :)
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Post by: JRP on September 03, 2007, 22:53:15
 :( Hi ALL, I'm sorry to say I have no photos coming up on my website at the moment for some reason, which I hope my site maker team will sort out for me as soon as possible. John. J.R.P.
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Post by: JRP on September 07, 2007, 09:49:16
 ;D :) Hi ALL, for those who are interested, my photos are back on my website, plus I've just sent a e-mail to the Channel 4 TV DUMPED programme expert Rob Holdway, to see if he can help to spread the word about the way I do things, to help reduce some of our waste going into landfill sites in the UK, and in the rest of the world if I can, whether he will reply or not I will have to wait and see. Apart from that all my projects are now going well, but still no reply from Bob Sweet Chelsea Flower Show, so I wont bother.again until next year, to exhibit 2009. John. J.R.P.  :(
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on September 07, 2007, 12:47:37
As glosterwomble said flooded areas are not contaminated most of the floodwater was just water.
The few areas which were unfortunate enough to be flooded with water containing raw sewage will not take that long to recover people will be able to use that land again next year.
Plastic containers are easily recyclable shipping them halfway across the world for people to grow thing in them makes no sense. A far better approach would be to support an organisation that specialises in permaculture as an example there is Geoff Lawton who is probably best known for taking 10 acres of barren, salty desert 2km from the dead sea & transforming it into a lush green fertile piece of land as can be seen in his "greening the desert" film shown on this site about halfway down this page http://permaculture.org.au/category/geoff-lawton/

Around here it is exceptionally difficult to get hold of pallets as they are all sent off to be reused if in good condition or if rotten then dismantled & the good bits of timber reused to manufacture new pallets.

I can't understand why you think all these materials end up in landfill when the council goes out of it's way to ensure plastics are recycled so they hit their targets & the companies that regularly receive goods on pallets reuse or recycle them all.
I also can't understand why you have a plot covered in pallets with everything growing in containers. There is obviously nothing wrong with the soil if surrounding plotholdes are using it. If you can't or don't want to dig it over then there are already lots of tried & tested no dig gardening methods. So why exactly is it you are using this system & witholding those containers & pallets from the recycling stream they would of entered otherwise?
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Post by: JRP on September 09, 2007, 00:35:33
Hi Baccy Man, yes permaculture has been done in so many different ways before, and for many years now. But I believe my system is the latest way to grow things, done in the simplest of ways, to add to what some other people are already doing. Which starts with me, and then other people try it out and finds it works,and so on, until someone like you tells someone else, why don't you try growing something in a waste plastic bottle or a waste plastic milk container to help reduce them going into landfill sites in the UK, and in the rest of the world, like the Channel 4 TV programme showed last week called Dumped just how many do get thrown away every day.
If I can show others a way to reuse millions of waste plastic containers of all shapes and sizes, and unwanted wooden pallets too, to help feed poor people, for example who really do live on landfill sites, or in a drought or flood situation, then I will carry on, if I can save just one life for next to nothing then I think it's got to be worth it, even though I've had lots of people like you, who say, they think I'm wasting my time. As for my allotment plot being covered in wooden pallets I'm trying to say, I GROW NOTHING IN THE GROUND ITS SELF BY DESIGN. Which means it can be used on most flat surfaces, including water, and it can be use to grow thing vertically too, and be transported from  one place to another on a small or a large scale. AND IT WILL COST NEXT TO NOTHING TO MAKE, because it's all made from rubbish. Which I believe there is no other system in the world can match made for FREE . All I'm trying to do is my bit in my own way, to add to what other people are trying to do in their own way. OK.
I know how to feed millions of people done by using my very simple to make water recycling system made from reusing waste plastic containers and unwanted wooden pallets, It's up to you whether you help to spread the word or not even though you have suggested other ways that I could spend my time on this earth. With this in mind.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 03, 2007, 22:08:17
 ;D Hi ALL, I thought I would like to share with you what a great night out we all had, when we went to see over a 100 young children, and some adualts perform on the LONDON PALLADIUM stage last week end, aged from the youngest boy being 6 years old, with others up to about 16, who were all there to live their dream of becoming famous. I think every one knew from the very first performance we were going to see lots of children having a good time who also had I think the X factor.
The show was none stop entertainment put on by the pupils of the Belcanto Theatre Arts school based at Eltham SE9 from the begining to the end, packed with so many different dances routines, and individual performances, and sound and lighting effects which added to what was a great night out in London for my wife and I and others too.
The owner of the school must have booked the London Palladium at a lose so that all of the children who went to her school would have the chance to show off what they can do, to their parent, and others who went to see them on the 30-9-2007 that night, like we did, which was to celebrate their 10th Anniversary.
There was one bit done by one young boy about 9 years old who played a deaf old man in a wheelchair with a flat cap and glasses, who had 2 young girls acting with him about the same age who were also playing the part of old wimin, all three were sent to clean their school by mistake from the Job Centre contractors, every time they spoke to him he would moan or shout something, like there's no need to shout, I'm not deaf, or I can change my mind if I want to, which had us all bursting out laughing because of the way he said it, and what the girls said, and what another boy said too who came on for a while.
We did have a bit of trouble finding a parking space near the theatre at first, but our luck was in and we got there on time. It was worth going just to see their happy faces at the end of the show when they must have said to them selves, after all the hard work of learning everything it was over, and they had done what they had lernt very well on the London Palladium stage.
Which along with others we all very much enjoyed watching them do for us. I hope they all live long and happy. God Blessum. If you happen to live near Eltham SE9 and you want to know more they had their website printed on the back of our programme it's, www.theatretraining.com  maybe you have a child who would one day like to live their dream of performing on a Top London Theatre stage Like the London Palladium. HAVE YOU FOUND THE RIGHT SCHOOL YET? these children seem to have.

Some more good news if your interested in the way I try to spread the word, I've just put some more new photos on my website taken of my Church Project stage 2 for you to look at, plus I've also added 3 photos of my TREE TOP FARMING IDEA for you to look at under cereal grops, to show to you what my own trees look like now with the middle tree trunks removed, to allow me to build if I want to a platform area to use my transportable system of growing things on, like you would build a tree house for example. but that's as far as I will go, because my wife said I'm to old to be climbing up trees just to prove a point, so you will have to use your imagination or have a go your self, if you happen to be living surrounded by trees with no ground space to grow anything in. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 01, 2007, 18:20:25
 ;D Hi ALL, I hope you find my 4 new photo pages of interest to you involving Age Concern and the Environment on my website, which I've just made spaces for on my menue.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: caroline7758 on November 01, 2007, 18:37:10
Sorry, can't find them!Can we have a link?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 01, 2007, 20:24:01
Sorry, can't find them!Can we have a link?

Hi Caroline, thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things. the only link I have to my website is at the bottom of each post I have made on here. www.recycling.moonfruit.com then you visit each page one at a time, done by clicking on each page topic, and using the arrow to move them up or down, please try again, as I would like you to know more to tell others.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Melbourne12 on November 02, 2007, 08:41:56
JRP, I've just looked at your expanded website, and it seems very sad that you've contacted so many organisations and individuals but that none of them will help.  Perhaps you're limiting your horizons too much.  People like Ken Livingstone are well-known of course, but world hunger is probably not top of the agenda for a man about to spend billions of pounds on the Olympic Games.

Why not try these guys: http://www.fao.org  The Food & Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.

They are dedicated to exactly the same aim as yourself - eliminating world hunger. And if the United Nations can't exploit your ideas, then no-one can.  They're based in Rome.  You could write to the Director General at the address here: http://www.fao.org/UNFAO/about/contact_en.html
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 03, 2007, 00:04:06
JRP, I've just looked at your expanded website, and it seems very sad that you've contacted so many organisations and individuals but that none of them will help.  Perhaps you're limiting your horizons too much.  People like Ken Livingstone are well-known of course, but world hunger is probably not top of the agenda for a man about to spend billions of pounds on the Olympic Games.

Why not try these guys: http://www.fao.org  The Food & Agriculture Organization of the United Nations.

They are dedicated to exactly the same aim as yourself - eliminating world hunger. And if the United Nations can't exploit your ideas, then no-one can.  They're based in Rome.  You could write to the Director General at the address here: http://www.fao.org/UNFAO/about/contact_en.html

Hi Melbourne12, thank you very much for trying to help me, I will do that.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 03, 2007, 02:08:54
 ;D Hi ALL. I've just sent a e-mail to Dr Jacques Diouf, Director General (FAO) as suggested by Melbourne12, I will let you know if I get a reply back. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 09, 2007, 00:33:17
 :( Hi ALL, today is the 9-11-2007 ( 9-11 ) I do hope and pray that today is not the day we loose thousands of lives in the UK due to the forcast of wide spread flooding, caused by a tidal wave surge. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 10, 2007, 00:03:32
:( Hi ALL, today is the 9-11-2007 ( 9-11 ) I do hope and pray that today is not the day we loose thousands of lives in the UK due to the forcast of wide spread flooding, caused by a tidal wave surge. John. J.R.P.

 ;D Hi All again, good news, as today I would like to think, by sharing my thoughts with all of you on the internet, I believe my prayers were answered by having NO lives lost in the UK, due to flooding, which could have happened if the water had got much higher. This time I believe we were ready, next time could be the real thing, so we must be ready for it againat at any time, here and in the rest of the world.  May we all live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 26, 2007, 22:26:37
Hi ALL, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE NOTE, of a programme on next Monday the 3rd DECEMBER CHANNEL 4 TV ( DISPATCHES ) at 9pm, as it's all to do with being flooded in the UK, which I think we should all watch as it could help to save our lives in some way, as water levels raise. I know I want to know more, how about you, even though every one of us, good or bad is going to die at some time anyway. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, when I'm sorry to say dying is a fact of life.. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Trixiebelle on November 29, 2007, 21:05:21
And there was me looking forward to a very Merry Christmas and a long life thereafter  ::)

JOY TO THE WORLD!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=f3YF8nH7J0o
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on November 30, 2007, 00:09:47
even though every one of us, good or bad is going to die at some time anyway. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, when I'm sorry to say dying is a fact of life.. John.J.R.P.
How depressing, was that comment really neccessary JRP?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on November 30, 2007, 13:58:29
even though every one of us, good or bad is going to die at some time anyway. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, when I'm sorry to say dying is a fact of life.. John.J.R.P.
How depressing, was that comment really neccessary JRP?
That seems quite mild for one of Johns comments some of the previous comments he has made both here & on other forums he posts on could & have caused a lot of people to become upset or offended although he sometimes apologises for any offence caused he never seems to think they had any cause to be offended in the first place. You would be better off just ignoring him if you don't like the comments he makes.

John if you would like to learn how to talk to people without causing so much upset & offence then I suggest you:
Walk out of your front door
Head south on Leas Dale toward Great Harry Dr 0.1 mi
Turn right at Great Harry Dr 226 ft
Turn right at William Barefoot Dr 0.4 mi
Turn left at B263/Green Ln 381 ft
Turn left at A20/Sidcup Rd 0.6 mi
Turn right at A208/Court Rd 0.7 mi
Turn right at N Park 0.1 mi
Turn left at Passey Pl 440 ft
Turn right at Philipot Path
Here you will find the Department of Clinical Psychology
Tel: 020 8294 1682/3             
Fax: 020 8850 0738
This service provides outpatient appointments with clinical psychologists for people living in the borough of Greenwich. I am sure there is someone there who could help you learn how to take other people into consideration while expressing your views.

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Biscombe on November 30, 2007, 14:31:50
Heheheh!! well said Baccy Man!! Wouldn't be so bad if the bloke had more of an input in general on the forums.........
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Post by: kenkew on November 30, 2007, 19:33:03
Looking for your best recycled and useful pic's in the photo comp section. What have you done!!  ???
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 02, 2007, 14:49:53
Baccy Man, why don't we meet up at my allotment plot one day, and say hello, and then we can talk face to face seeing as you know where it is. Because I want to meet someone like you who thinks trying to help others is a waste of time, no matter what they try to do. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 02, 2007, 15:00:06
Hi ALL, I've found a webite showing some plans of elevated home designs, which I would like to see built on all our flood plains, to help save lives by law, now and in the future, which you might like to tell others about if they are involved in building homes in anyway on a flood plain, now and in the future, for example the Thames Gateway. It's www.allhouseplans.com/house-plans-charleston.html . Ofcourse we will build them to what we like to see in the UK. Plus I've found a website that's done some tests all about elevated homes, and those which are not, which comes up good on insurance, and value too in flood risk areas, which I think you should also like to know about if you are buying a house or building. It's Snoqualmie Reconneissance Study I believe everyone who knowingly says it's ok to build on land that has a high risk of flooding, and they go a head and do it, and lives are lost, should be held accountable of premeditated murder, with no ifs or buts. Yes, if we need to build on the land then we must do so, but what I can't understand is why we choose to build on land that can be flooded easly in the first place, when say cows or sheep could graze's on it, leaving fields to build home on with less chances of major flooding, with every way possible for this not to happen built in by design to save the loss of any life. Which I hope Mondays TV channel4 programme is all about to do with flooding. May you and yours and what we grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on December 02, 2007, 17:19:49
Baccy Man, why don't we meet up at my allotment plot one day, and say hello, and then we can talk face to face seeing as you know where it is. Because I want to meet someone like you who thinks trying to help others is a waste of time, no matter what they try to do. John. J.R.P.

Once upon a time everyone had something called privacy then one day in 1990 Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau invented the world wide web as a result of their invention nobody has any privacy anymore hence the reason I can identify you locate your address & numerous other bits of information about you & your family in less than a minute. Why did I bother doing this? As stated in the post above it was simply to give you directions to the nearest service which I thought could help you learn how to take other people into consideration while expressing your views.

I am afraid I am going to have to decline your offer as the prospect of making a 6 hour journey just to meet you at your allotment for a discussion in person doesn't really appeal to me. Especially as I have read your responses to people who have raised perfectly valid points about why your system won't work in the third world countries you intend it for, or the environmental implications of witholding plastic containers & pallets from the normal waste stream where they would of been reused or recycled & instead using them in the ways you suggest which renders them unfit for further use when they no longer serve a purpose for you resulting in them entering landfill which in turn creates a need for more new raw materials to replace the said items which would of been reused or recycled in normal circumstances further depleting natural resources. Or the environmental impact & the cost of transporting these containers to parts of the world they were not designed to be in where they would degrade rapidly because they are not suitable for use in the climatic conditions in those parts of the world. You don't listen to what the real issues are in those parts of the world instead you insist all they need is plastic containers to grow things in.
You seem unwilling to discuss any of these points instead insisting that you are right & the other person is wrong even if it is evident they know considerably more about the subject in question than you do. You often resort to insulting people who question anything you say rather than entering into a discussion & listening to other peoples points of view.
I have also read your views on crime & punishment which I acknowledge you have removed from your website however your comments are still widely availiable on numerous other forums where you posted them. I would feel uncomfortable being somewhere as remote as an allotment plot with anybody who thinks like that & would choose not to associate with such a person in any case.

Your comment about me being someone who thinks trying to help others is a waste of time, no matter what they try to do makes it very evident you don't know that much about me. I find that getting off your backside & doing something makes much more of a difference than sitting around talking about all the good ideas you have but doing nothing. I am very well known in my community & to use just a few of the words people use to describe me I am knowledgeable, hardworking, helpful, considerate, accommodating, reliable and willing to take on tasks that other people are not interested in. In my opinion atque hoc superbio.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 03, 2007, 00:05:25
Now that is a sham, as we have a lot in common, apart from me trying to change the future, with some outside the box ideas. If you notice on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com I'm making no money from it at all, yet people like you who have so much to say, waste it on trying to put me down for some reason. At no time have I told anyone they must use my ideas, or they will be punished. according to you I have wasted most of my life trying to be different, don't you think I already know that. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Melbourne12 on December 03, 2007, 09:44:32
Now that is a sham, as we have a lot in common, apart from me trying to change the future, with some outside the box ideas. ......

I shall treasure that put-down.

I might even pinch it (sorry, recycle it) for use on some suitable occasion.  ;D

Did you ever get a response from the FAO, John?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 03, 2007, 23:40:39
 :(  Hi Melbourne 12, no I never did, so that's another one gone on my long list of no helpers, which at some time I will hold accountable for their actions. I'm just going to post about  the Channel 4 TV progamme I whatched tonight, OK.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 03, 2007, 23:41:34
 ??? Hi ALL, what a crazy world we live in when Antony Barnet at Channel 4 TV has to tell us the way it is regarding FLOODING, and Baroness Young says she doing her best to sort things out. I say it all comes down to money being spent on something she or any one else won't get a return on in the way of profit, just like my New reuse of waste ideas to help save lives, and help to reduce some of our waste going to landfill sites in the UK, and in the rest of the world.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 12, 2007, 23:36:18
 :( Hi ALL, VERY SAD NEWS for me, after me getting a long awaited reply from Miss Ann Widdecombe. It's turns out after many years of trying to get my life saving ideas used, at last some one on behalf of the lovely lady has taken the time to tell me the reason why I haven't found any one in power to champion my cause. It's all to do with being bound by a very strict Parliamentary Convention, which forbids Members of Parliament from entering into detailed correspondence with, or making representations on behalf of, other Member's constituents, therefore Miss Ann Widdecombe is like every one else who has a say in runnings the UK, they are regretably unable to write to me in any detail, as she and others must simply abide by the rules. So it all comes down to that old saying, it's not what you know, it's who you know, even though my own local Labour MP was once the head of recycling in GREENWICH SE10.
What a crazy world we live in, when you can contact some people to help you, who could change your life without actually knowing you, yet can not be held accountable for their action to you. Plus they say it's good to talk to anyone, especially your Member of Parliament who is in (POWER) to represent you and others. It does seam to me after all my years of trying, money does talk in any language, but not when something is made for FREE, to help reduce some of our waste, and save lives too.
The saddest part about me wasting my time on this earth is, I'm begining to think it's because I'm white, and English and living in Great Britain that I'm getting no help, even though I'm trying to help solve 2 world problems for next to nothing, and more. What more can one man offer to do without help from others, when so many people say why bother to help others, when you might not ever know them, and tell me my ideas won't work too, yes I agree every one has the right to have an opinion about my ideas, but at least try them out first before telling me they won't work for some reason, and can prove it...
What I would of liked is, to put the song FEED THE WORLD on to my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com after us buying it to help promote my way of doing things, but I can't because I would have topay Sir Bob Geldof copy rights money to do so? which is a shame especially as its to do with Christmas, and feeding the poor too.
With this in mind may I be one of the first to wish you and yours and every one else in the world a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a very HAPPY NEW YEAR 2008 too. John.J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 18, 2007, 00:35:35
 ??? Hi ALL, what a crazy world we live in, when on the Dragons Den TV programme they gave £50,000 towards a transportable water purification system, which will be sold at around £20 a time to all the charities who are involved in saving lives.
May I point out to you all that my vertical water recycling system can do the same thing by design, simple done by adding some sort of filter, Like sand or rages or both, in to the container you would remove each time, you use to put compost in, to then grow something in to eat now, which cost next to nothing to make. and I'm offering it to the world for FREE. I say anything that helps to save lives should be tried, because it's got to be worth it, not just in money terms. I do hope the poor people this system was designed for are able to use it in their every day life, like mine, made from rubbish, especially as it only works when the wheels go round by design.. If you want to know more about the way I would do things please ask, especially if you are a charity thinking about buying these with our money, even though it's a good idea, I can see lots of problem, for example, a lot of moving fluid weight on 2 none repairable wheel, we are talking 50 litres on a uneven surface being pulled for miles every day it's used, by poor starving weak people who are also dying of dirty contaminated water, or no water at all. Come on you money people why not run a pipe line from where ever to where ever with fresh drinking water inside it, and name it after you, or your company. knowing in return you will help to save lots of lives, which is more in value than you will ever own. Water means life, what ever way you look at it. Some people think I'm mad, or just plain stupid, when I put forward an idea, but to them I say.
May you and yours and all those who think I'm not mad or stupid live long and happy. John.J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 21, 2007, 10:48:46
Hi ALL, I've just posted on this website about WHAT IF... which I would like you to look at, as they have come up with another very good idea on how to use space to grow things, which you moght like to try. Posted by jamesthehat today. urburn allotmants.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 07, 2008, 00:01:14
 ;D Hi ALL, this website www.inhabitat.com takes gardening and recycling to a different hight, it also saves space too. Happy New Year.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: antipodes on January 07, 2008, 13:23:08
what a crazy thread this is!!! i am surprised that JRP has time to garden as he seems to spend all his time posting on it!!
although I am impressed with his dedication to his ideas, I feel that he is probably wasting his time thinking that he can fight world hunger.
HOWEVER, because I don't want to be cynical, I feel that maybe he could try a different tack and promote his system for the growing of veg by poorer families in urban areas which I feel is something that is not as encouraged as it should be. It would give these families a way of having healthy food at minimal cost.
while I am sure that many of the people at A4A respect your ideas, perhaps this is a case of overkill??
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on January 07, 2008, 13:30:56
A more feasible idea for third world countries is demonstrated in this flash movie.

http://www.abc.net.au/backyard/flash/Permaculture.swf
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 24, 2008, 01:41:35
 ;D Hi ALL, today the 23-1-2008 we had our waste collected, using the New collection system in GREENwich. Which is now our GREEN BIN is used for FOOD and GARDEN WASTE ONLY, which they are going to collect WEEKLY, and our BLUE TOP BIN can take a mix of CANs, CARDBOARD, GLASS, PLASTIC, and PAPER  and CORRUGATED CARDBOARD too, all in one go, which will be collected WEEKLY, and if we have LEFT-OVERs like POLYSTYRENE,  or DOG or CAT EXCREMENT, SANITARY TOWELs and INCONTINENCE PADs, COLD COAL and WOOD EMBERS, they must be all put in a SEALED BAG, any VACUUM CLEANER WASTE, CIGARETTE ENDs, COTTON WOOL PADs and BUDs and MAKE-UP WIPEs, COAT HANGERS, and BROKEN CROCKERY, which must be wrapped to avoid any injury to the dustman mainly, all these we are told to put in BLACK PLASTIC SACKs to be collected FORTNIGHTLY from now on. WHY!  Why should we wait two weeks for it to be collected, when it could be all collected on the same day, and in another WHEELIE BIN say with a RED TOP. Plus we are being asked to pay for  BAGs, GARDEN SACKs, CADDY LINERs when we as council tax payer already pay for every thing. This I pointed out to all the people who were present at our local COLDHARBOUR Estate NEIGHBOURHOOD PANEL MEETTING, which had a man frow GREENWICH COUNCIL there talking about GREENWICH's New way of collecting our waste, and the ways they are going to RECYCLE and REUSE it to help to REDUCE it going to landfill sites, with the help of us all doing our bit. They say the money making side of things it's to improve their services for us, IN WHAT WAY! We have just paid for a New Council Materials Recycling Facility which Automatically sorts the Paper, Cans and Bottles and packs them into bales. yet we are being asked to seprate most things WHY! even though I don't mind doing it if it helps, but come on atleast supply us with the things we need, without us having to pay for it, even though some people don't mind doing that too, but that's their choice when they are being told we must all buy things to help the Council keep where we live looking clean and tidy, and free from Waste. If our Greenwich Council wants to show the best way to deal with its waste, its got to do more for us, and in return I'm sure we will all DO OUR BIT, like I am, in my own way as my website will show, and in some of my ideas I have put forward, which I believe are a bit outside the box ways of thinking. Thank you for taking the time to read my thoughts. I hope you all have a Happy New Year 2008, and may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Eristic on January 24, 2008, 04:10:23
What's this got to do with your allotment?

If the Council tells you to put things in bags just do as you're told. Get on with it. Get a life even.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on January 24, 2008, 08:46:31
when they are being told we must all buy things to help the Council keep where we live looking clean and tidy, and free from Waste.

What were you told to buy JRP?, seems they've got it all covered to me. ???

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 24, 2008, 14:03:14
What's this got to do with your allotment?

If the Council tells you to put things in bags just do as you're told. Get on with it. Get a life even.

Please let me point out to you this is a New Recycling Ideas thread on a gardening website,  the point I'm trying to make is we already pay for every thing for example, the pens and papers which they use, and the lorries too, and the wages, that's why! 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: springbok on January 24, 2008, 14:17:30
I can kind of sympathise with JRP, as our council have gone a bit mad too.  I dont think my garden can hold another bin.  4 already is enough as it is, and as a mother with dirty nappies etc... tying thim in a bag and not being picked up for 2 weeks is a pain in the XXXXDSFDFADASDf.... cant swear here :D

Its also a pain remembering which bin goes out when!!  As they have changed the times twice already!!.

As for the money you pay the council... if more people in this country voted.. the government would be out anyway... just nobody bothers anymore or cares ... and just live with the crap they throw at you with a daily basis.

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 24, 2008, 14:19:36
when they are being told we must all buy things to help the Council keep where we live looking clean and tidy, and free from Waste.

What were you told to buy JRP?, seems they've got it all covered to me. ???



Hi Emagggie, the things we are being asked to pay for are bags, garden sacks, and caddy liners, which I think the Council should give us all for FREE, as we already pay the council to deal with our waste, which I believe will encourge more people to do their bit if they did supply them for FREE.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on January 24, 2008, 15:04:04
Oh dear. In that case I agree. What will happen if you don't buy the liners, has any one asked?
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Eristic on January 24, 2008, 18:53:02
JRP. If you took recycling seriously you would not produce any waste that required you to purchase bags to dispose of.

You cannot expect a sensible Council to give you free bags so that you can simply use them elsewhere adlib. Need them,  buy them. Don't need them, don't buy them. What's the problem?

Wait till they fit RFID chips on the bins and you have to pay for all the shit I dump in your bin when you're not looking.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Jeannine on January 24, 2008, 19:56:58
Well I have been bagging the stuff in my wheelie bin for years I cannot imagine just chucking it in. We recycle of course but everything else that goes in the "other bin" is bagged and tidy.  My bin is clean inside as it has never had smellies in it without bags. Grrhhh

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Biscombe on January 24, 2008, 22:35:17
Wait till they fit RFID chips on the bins and you have to pay for all the shit I dump in your bin when you're not looking.

Laughing a lot here!!!


Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: jennym on January 24, 2008, 23:50:14
Never thought I'd post on this thread but there you go.
It seems ludicrous to me that anyone even thinks of buying bags to put rubbish into. It just creates more rubbish.
If you have a problem with excess food packaging, take off everything you can at the supermarket and leave it in their bin. Don't accept packaging you don't need if you can avoid it. You won't have to dispose of it then.
Don't waste any food, then you won't need to put it in the bin, you can compost what's not useable. My bin doesn't usually smell because no food waste goes into it. There's not much if anything needs putting into bags, so that solves that problem. It goes into the bin. If the bin does get dirty, it gets washed out with water. The bin is made of plastic, so that's a dead easy task.
It may be a hassle to sort things into separate bins, it's much more of a hassle disposing of it usefully and safely long term.
The only real problem I see is plastic packaging - which the councils have to take now. They also have to take small metal items, like tins, and glass jars and bottles, and paper & cardboard. theres not much left after that. Textiles get taken down the tip every few months where there's a special area for them, as there is for old bricks, and for timber, and used engine oil. Allsorts in fact.
I don't sympathise with you JRP, the council sevices are paid for by us, of course, but it couldn't be much easier than it is nowadays, and you don't need to buy bags if you put your mind to it.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on January 25, 2008, 06:26:50
I don't have wheelie bins I just have recycling bags for some plastics, metal, paper & textiles & 52 black bags given to me by the council every year. The plastic/metal recycling bag generally take at least 6 weeks to fill usually a lot longer, the paper/textiles bag is not used as all that can be used in other ways. The black bags take months to fill I am still using the roll of 52 from 2000 when I first moved in here. Most waste is either composted or recyclable materials that the council won't collect (certain plastics, glass, tetra-pack cartons etc...) are taken 12 miles by bus to the nearest recycling facilities. I can't see what your problem is when your council is providing a better service than mine yet I don't have any problems dealing with my waste & I also compost several of my neighbours food & garden waste too.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on January 25, 2008, 08:57:59
I suppose it's ok if everybody recycles as they are asked, but there are going to be many who don't, then there will still be all the smelly bins and health hazzards that Jeannine mentioned. Not every-one has a garden and a compost heap. As for recycling food waste, mine goes in the dog generally. ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Kea on January 25, 2008, 10:14:14
We're told when we got our extra bins for recycling and green waste that if our lid won't close on the waste rubbish bin then it wouldn't be collected. Fine I don't have a problem with that most rubbish is recyclable and even with 4 of us we often have space in the bin at the end of the fortnight.
However recently we get our biannual letter from the district council about waste and recycling and if you read it carefully you find they've changed the rules. Old clothing can't be recycled now and now the recycling bin won't be collected if the lid won't close. We used to be able to put cardboard boes too big to go in the bin out beside the bin (unofficially that is still happening) so what is the point of a recyling collection because anyone who has space in their waste bin and not enough room in the recycling is going to put it in the unused space in the waste bin or they're going to waste fuel driving it to a recycling centre completely defeating the purpose of the collection in the first place.
As I mentioned they haven't actually followed up their new rule (or at least the bin men haven't) anyway but I guess they will eventually.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 27, 2008, 15:27:25
Hi ALL, I'm sorry if you can't get your head round my post, the main points I'm trying to make are, Yes it's a new system which is great, but WHY use black bags, when they could have given us another bin, say with a red top to put them in, instead of us having to put the black bags down by the side of our two other bins until they are collected fortnightly, making the area where we live look like a dump. When we have three new waste collecting lorries which did come round on the 23-1-2008, 1 at 6am, another at about 10am, and anther one at about 2pm, all on the same day. The point I'm trying to make is if they can do it one week, on one day, then why can they do it like that every week. If you would like to visit the Council website which cover everything I've been talking about in the way of info it's. Home Page is ok,www.greenwich.gov.uk/Greenwhich/YourEnvironment/RubbishRecycling/Recy... John.J.R.P.

Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Jeannine on January 27, 2008, 15:44:24
I don't buy bags , goodness me, I use bags that other stuff comes in that I have no option to bring home,I recycle everything I can but still the bin gets mucky with some stuff as do my recycle bins.I don't wash my wheelie bin, cos it is bigger than me and I would fall in the ruddy thing if I tried, and me upside down in a wheelie bin yelling for help in an area that no one comes even  if you scream  rape is not a cheerful thought. I could be stuck in there. for good, well 2 weeks anyway till the bin men come.

So I will continue to bag  with freebies,and not clean my bin.

Ohhh the mind boggles, especially as I am usually putting the junk out in my nightgown.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: springbok on January 27, 2008, 16:54:06
Went to look at the website and got the list for the black sack usage!

What to put in your black sack
You should use your black sacks for:

    * polystyrene
    * disposable nappies
    * clothing and shoes
    * waxed food and beverage cartons
    * batteries and electrical waste
    * pet waste (except waste from small pets on a vegetarian diet)
    * cat litter
    * vacuum cleaner waste
    * sanitary towels and incontinence pads (you may want to put them in a sealed bag first)
    * coal and wood embers
    * cotton wool pads/buds and make-up wipes
    * cigarette ends and ashtray contents
    * coat hangers
    * broken crockery - wrap in paper first to avoid injury

Now to be honest, how often does anybody throw the above out!!.. Ok sanitary wear and nappies is not pleasant, but the list isnt that bad.  I cant personally see the street being cluttered with black bags!!.. Or am I reading all this wrong lol.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: SMP1704 on January 27, 2008, 19:36:42
That's a lot of sorting but not the end of the world. 

Over here in Hounslow we have been buying our own black bags for at least the last ten years.  We have a dustbin lined with a black bag, put the rubbish in that and then take out and tie up the sack and put out on the street the night before the bin men arrive.

Makes sense to me and the street only looks messy one day a week.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on January 27, 2008, 19:43:14
We have the same system but if we put out the bags here the foxes rip them to bits and it's a pain to have to clear up the mess. If we buy our own wheelie bins (we have), the bin men wont take the rubbish out. It has to be in a black bag, so I get up early and take the bags out of the wheelie bin for those poor, poor hard done by dustmen. ::)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Old bird on February 08, 2008, 16:23:39
I am getting really good at the recycling thingy - also I have encouraged my work to become involved.  The thing that really Pi**es me off is the houses with only one or two adults and 7 black bags out per week!!!!

It sometimes niggles me so much that if the owner (luckily they haven't been there!) had been there I would have suggested that they look at their recycling options!

I think the Council's ought to be a bit more strict and only collect on bag per household and ensure that offenders are advised of the recycling facilities that are on offer - if they decide they don't want to use them then make them pay!

We are talking of the destruction of life as we know it - and people can't be bothered with sorting out their rubbish?!!

I am speaking from Minehead where we, possibly, don't have as much going on as city folk!

Old Bird

 >:(
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: star on February 08, 2008, 16:31:54
I totally agree Old Bird, trouble is when so much rubbish is generated by one household, and lets say we are only allowed to put out 1 bag a week. There are those that will just dump it anywhere.

We have so much fly tipping as it is already, its like these people do not give a toss for the planet they live on........Shoot 'em!! >:(
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: MPG on February 09, 2008, 06:37:30
we have 2 bins in the hastings area 1 green, 1 black, they get collected on rotation every 2 wks, once a fortnite black one goes with house hold rubbish and so on and so forth, our family consist of 4 children 2 adults, we dont have our rubbish spilling everywhere with seagulls ripping it to pieces, we are lucky if we fill the bins, i buy whatever fresh food i can with hardly any packaging, or the biggest packs so they last alot longer, all my plastic waste ie milk cartons or deep things that say cakes or biscuits come in i reuse these as much as i can, mainly for planting things,
cardboard like cerial packets i either hand in to the school for the children to build things with or we cut it up for ours to draw on but anything i can use for garden or lotty i get first digs ;D . but what i have noticed is if you have money to buy junk then the junk/rubbush you create is doubled if not trippled, i just hate the thought of the stuff going to landfill if there is anyway it can safely be re used.....
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Emagggie on February 09, 2008, 20:27:15
Well said MPG. ;)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Trixiebelle on February 12, 2008, 18:40:13
:( Hi ALL, VERY SAD NEWS for me, after me getting a long awaited reply from Miss Ann Widdecombe. It's turns out after many years of trying to get my life saving ideas used, at last some one on behalf of the lovely lady has taken the time to tell me the reason why I haven't found any one in power to champion my cause.

Sorry, I hit 'post' before I had a reasoned argument lined up!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: floraldi on February 12, 2008, 18:49:01
Just wanted to say that Monty Don in India (repeat showing tonight) visits the MOST AMAZING garden made by a truly avid recycler.  You must see this programme if you have not seen it already.  Di

PS Not quite figured out the empty four pint plastic thingy. We use this size but our council does recycle plastic.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 03, 2008, 00:13:33
 ;DHi ALL, I say what we need is a WASTE REVOLUTION in the UK, to take place now, because I believe we need to think and handle all our waste as a asset, and at no time should it go to landfill sites. I'm sure every thing we produce can be reused again in one way or another, but I believe because there is so much money involved which comes from our Council tax or Rents, which can be spent by people who are not really accountable for their actions on behalf of the people who actually pay the BILL, which is most of us at the end of the day, Governed by just a few people who all have their own ideas on how to deal with our waste PROBLEMs, with a end result of some Councils are doing a good job, and some are not, even our own Greenwich Council has started a New collection Service, but they are leaving it to the people to sort it out as time goes on, rather than having every thing in place before they started, for example not having enough blue top wheelie bins, or bin liners.
With this in mind I'm now in the position of being The Voice of our Coldharbour Estate, SE9,  C.T.R.A. Waste and Recycling Team, which I intend to use, to help REDUCE as much of our waste as I can going to our landfill sites, with the help of others living on our estate, and with the backing of our Greenwich Council I know we can make a BIG difference, simply done by us all working together to help SOLVE any PROBLEMs, that's not going to go away over night, but with some of my outside the box ideas I will be putting forward to every one, we could change the way we do things over night, if used.
May be you want to be a voice for your estate too, and join me in my REVOLUTIONARY thoughts.
For example below is a copy of a C.T.R.A. Coldharbour, Tenants, Residents, Association, meeting paper I gave to our Greenwich Council representatives, to help me know more in the way of 20 questions. What I want at the end of the day is a service that's good value for money, and it deals with our waste as a asset not to be thrown away, but REUSED, I have so many ideas on how to make this come about, but only time will tell if I've been wasting my time or not, so I invite every one to watch this space, as you might find it of interest to you, as I try to change lots of things in my own way, with the help of others, now that I'm in the SYSTEM.
Power to the people who are doing their bit, in their own way all over the world to save our planet for future generations to come.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.

C.T.R.A. meeting held on the 27th February 2008, is where people living on our Coldharbour Estate SE9 can have their say, and it will be acted upon in the future.
Here are some questions I would like answers to in regards to our New waste collection service started on Wednesday 21st  of January 2008.
(1) Will our Greenwich Council Tax be going up tp pay for it?
(2) How much does it cost to deal with one GREEN TOP WHEELIE BIN?
(3) How much does it cost to deal with one BlUE TOP WHEELIE BIN?
(4) How much does it cost to deal with one Black Bag?
(5) How much does it cost to deal with one DAYs WASTE?
(6) How much does it cost to deal with one WEEKs WASTE?
(7) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their WASTE collected?
(8) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their STREETs free from rubbish?
(9) How much does it cost each person Living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their LARGE waste collected?
(10) How much does it cost each person living on our Coldharbour Estate to have their CONTAMINATED Wheelie bin dealt with?
(11) How much waste does our Coldharbour Estate produce over all?
(12) How much waste has been put into the GREEN TOP BINs and collected?
(13) How much waste has been put into the BLUE TOP BINs and collected?
(14) How much waste has been put into the BLACK BAGs and collected?
(15) How much waste has been put into the wrong PLASTIC CONTAINERs and collected?
(16) How much of our waste goes to landfill sites?
(17) How much of our waste gets REUSED?
(18) How much of our waste gets RECYCLED?
(19) How much would it cost to supply each person who has a WHEELIE BIN, with a Large Clear Bin LINER?
(20) How much would it cost to have our own Coldharbour Recycling Bank?
These are just some of the questions I will be asking The Greenwich Council waste representatives to night.

Which did turn out to be a very good presentation by our Greenwich Council Waste Service People, which I'm sure you could get arranged to where you live if you try.
Did you know if you are a home owner living in Greenwich you are charged 4 a item to have your bulk waste taken away, but if you are a Council Tenant you are not charged, This to me is DISCRIMINATION between peoples waste, and I've accused Greenwich Council and others of it. and I've said I want this to stop straight away or there's going to be a Big PROBLEM in the future, as we own our own house like so many others do, and we pay our Council Tax to cover this already, so WHY should we pay more to have the same type of waste removed?
These are some more of my ideas I'm putting forward.
We must do away with using Black Bags to help prevent people CONTAMINATATING their waste before it goes into the back of the waste collecting lorry.
We must have FREE BIN LINERS, and BAGs.
We must have enough Wheelie Bins for what we throw away.
We must have Free bulk household waste collection.
We must have all our wheelie bins made from clear recycled plastic.
We must have one way of dealing with our waste, to cover the whole of the UK.
We must all try to do our bit in a positive way to reuse and recycle our waste starting from a early age.
We must get our waste PROBLEMs sorted out as soon as possible, otherwise we are going to have a BIG PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.  John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 03, 2008, 00:38:44
HELP is this  8) a Computer Virus, because I did put the number 8 down.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Baccy Man on March 03, 2008, 15:11:29
HELP is this  8) a Computer Virus, because I did put the number 8 down.
No not a virus you just have to disable smilies (checkbox in additional options) if you want to write 8) as that is the code for the 'cool' smiley
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 03, 2008, 18:50:32
Hi Baccy Man,  thank you for putting my mind at ease.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 13, 2008, 21:38:56
 ;D Hi ALL, our GREENWICH COUNCIL Waste Management is RUBBISH at dealing with our rubbish, I say this after trying to get our waste delt with in a posative way, to help reduce it going to landfill sites from our Coldharbour Estate SE9, done by trying to make sure every one has a Blue Top Wheelie Bin to use, to help recycle more, and to help reduce the risk of CONTAMINATION, which does happen if  some people have only a Green Top Wheelie Bin to use.
I believe this could have all been sorted out years ago, if the Council had said to every one living in a Council House or their own homes, that we must all have a Green Top Wheelie bin supplied by the Council, to use for just food and Garden waste only, with some paper in them for food to be wrapped up in, and they should have also said that we must all have a Blue Top Wheelie bin supplied by the Council to, for what ever else can be reused or recycled, and then maybe adding another one later to cover what ever else was left.
But no they decided to start a New collection service this year, already knowing they would not be able to cope with what should have been already in place, which was Blue Top Wheelie Bins, and clear recycling bags, and a nappy service as promise, and a Management Team of people who actually new what to do.
I have spoken to a lot of our dustmen and people living on our estate, and they say the Greenwich Council Waste Management have not got a clue, they sit in their offices giving out work to be done by each man, not knowing about the job them selves, which of course they will claim is not the case, and saying we will sort things in the future.
For example when someone has taken the time to phone in to tell them they want a Blue Top Wheelie bin to use for example, they get told, they will get one A S P, which could take nearly a year going by some of the people I've spoken to, as each one is dealt with as they are entered down on the list to be ordered. So what happens is someone might want one in Eltham, someone might want one in Woolwich, someone might want one Greenwich, Someone might want one in New Eltham, then someone might want one in Lewisham, and so on, what then happens is a vehicle then travels from one house to another in that order until each one is delivered, that's why its's taking so long, instead of doing a bulk delievery when they have enough to fill one lorry brought in from Germany, to cover a lot more people in one go, who are living in a certain area, and then move on to the next one until we all have our bins to use as a way of life, instead of some Councils supplying boxes,bags,sacks which all have to be picked up at some time with what ever weight they have inside them, where as if we all had the same type of wheelie bin no matter where we lived, this I believe would cut down on our dustmen being injured trying to do thier job, oked by someone who's working in a office who has more than likely never done the same job them selves.
Once upon time the dust men worked a job and knock system, and made sure that all our rubbish was removed, as they were seen to be doing a good job if no one complained. But now they have to work certain hours to make the management system work, which is clearly coursing lots of PROBLEMS as they believe the management have not got a clue in the best way to run such an important service. For example did you know if someone wants to change their large wheelie bin for a smaller one, their old wheelie bin is destroyed because it's been used before, and they would rather buy a brand new one instead of giving it to someone else to use, to help keep down cost.
Did you know for years the Greenwich Council accounts department has not been charging some businesses, and schools for example for collecting their rubbish, which they should have, but when they tell the people that they must start to pay now, most of them don't, and they change to a private contractor to do the same job for some reason. So even more money has been missmanaged for years, and no one will be held accountable for it, as it's only our money they are manageing which makes no profit, even though they get everything for free paid for in one way or another by us. I have heard that they are now starting to paint some Green Top Wheelie Bin lids Black to use, I wonder if this is to put the black sacks in to replace us leaving the black sacks out, which then have to be picked up each time not knowing what's in them. Apart from that we are still waiting for about 100 Blue Top Wheelie Bins to cover our estate, which is getting on for three months now since they were ordered by me and others to help solve our recycling PROBLEM. I was told that Bexley waste management has got a system where their peoples waste day is collected with in half an hour of each other, not taking all day like ours, and more when contractor lorrys come round to pick up what the dustmen wont take, because it's been contaminated in some way, which is when people usually put stuff in either bins in black bags, instead of waiting until the righ day for them to be collected, which is once a fortnight where we live in Greenwich at the moment.
I can't wait until the next public meeting of Councillors and MPs, and Waste Management, and C.T.R.A. members to talk about things that concern us in one way or another.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 27, 2008, 23:08:17
Hi ALL, this is how our Greenwich Council solved our Community Hall Waste Bin PROBLEM of not being emptied by them for a long time, they simply took it away on a large open back lorry and never replaced it with another one, why because they say a bill as not been paid, even though the caretaker said her manager said to her, it had been paid, and can prove it. But no they went a head and took it away, which all came about after me and the caretaker manager keeped complaining about the Community Hall waste bin not being emptied each week ever since they started our New waste collection service back in January, even though the same dustmen go past it to collect rubbish from a tower block just up the end of our road, say about 100 yards away. The crazy bit is. We were told it was not on any list to be emptied by them, even though they had been doing it for years before they started their NEW waste service this year, and they have had the same dustmen who have been told to empty it, do it as well, so you would have thought someone would have said something about our PROBLEM before now, which seems to prove our Greenwich Waste Service is rubbish at dealing with our waste PROBLEMs, as others have told me too.
There is some very good News though, we have just had a lorry load of Blue Top Wheelie Bins to use, giving to lots of people who are living on our Coldharbour Estate SE9.
There is also some more good news, I now have a Gardening friend who's a teacher, and I have a Headmaster at the same school where he works who are both keen on getting my way of growing things up and running as a school project, starting at the end of Mayish, after the children have had their exams, which is the most posative thing I've heard for along time, plus the fact, my system is proving to other it works very well as the years pass, as more and more people who try it will find out.
The only trouble I have is some people think I'm boasting every time I post something to do with the way I feel about things, good or bad, because I stand by what I say, to the point they think I must be mad or on something to carry on in the way that I do. What's the point of having a idea if you can't share it with others, even if they may not agree.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message, I will keep you imformed of our waste bin situation next time I post. John.J.R.P. the Voice of Coldharbours Estate C.T.R.A. Waste and Recycling Team.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 04, 2008, 16:22:27
 ;D Hi ALL, LABOUR STAYS SILENT ON WHO FACES WASTE BIN TAX, as reported in a news paper I read today dated the 30-4-2008.
ALMOST two in three homes could be taxed on their rubbish under minister's target, according to the Tories.
They said the Government was plotting to bring in pay-as-you-throw schemes only after the local elections, by refusing to reveal which Councils will be involved in trials, MINISTERS were keeping people in the dark, previous ministers have said trials will be run in just five areas, and that 14 unnamed local authorities have expressed interest in taking part. But the TORIES PRODUCED DOCUMENTS CONTAINING PLANS which said officials believe BIN TAXES will mean that 'just over 62 per cent of HOUSEHOLDS are COVERED by CHARGING SCHEMES'. Labour intend to spread bin taxes across the country, which will cause a massive public backlash. The public have the right to know if their TOWN HALL is going to INCREASE TAXES on them after the elections.
In 2007 a Environment Secretary threw his weight behind PAY-AS-YOU-THROW TAXES, PILOTS can go ahead once the CLIMATE CHANGE BILL, which is currently before Parliament makes it legal for Councils to make additional CHARGES FOR RUBBISH COLLECTION, ON TOP OF COUNCIL TAX.
DEFRA says FAMILIES are likely to be BILLED for the WEIGHT of rubbish they put out, or for the NUMBER of SACKS or BLACK BAGS they use.
BINS would be IDENTIFIED by MICROCHIPS. But Councils could also charge in other ways. MINISTERS say the charges would encourage US to RECYCLE MORE and put out LESS WASTE.. But they do acknowledge that families, who inevitably generate the most waste, will be hardest hit. COSTS were originally put at about 30 a year, but Ministers then admitted they are more likely to be 50, other analysts believe they could hit 100.

(me) I believe the reason Councils want us to pay more for dealing with our waste is, they are contracting more and more out to anybody who wants to do the job, using our money to pay for someone else to do it, rather than do it them selves. This way the management can blaim others if something goes wrong with the system, so when we see a Council Waste collection lorry with there name on it, this does not mean the men in it are employed by the Council its self, this applies to lots of other services too.
What I believe is unfair about the way the waste system works is, People are being charged more in one way or another if they happen to live in a house or have their own bin collection service laid on, but the people who happen to live in tower blocks for example don't, why, when they must throw away just as much waste, if not more.
By the way we have now got a NEW waste bin at out Colharbour Estate Community Hall, to replace our one they took away a week ago because of a PROBLEM with the system.
And today I've just shown my gardening school teacher friend how to make my vertical growing system, made from reusing lots of waste 4 pint milk containers he had already collected to do the job on his plot or at his school, with the use of some long and short bean canes he now knows how to grow things like me. to show others. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 11, 2008, 21:18:20
 ;D Hi ALL, guess who's appearing on BBC 1 EastEnders Monday the 12 May 2008 at 8:00pm and on Sunday the 18 May 2008 ( Sunday Omnibus ), NO it's not me playing the part of a excentric professor, who's into reusing waste and gardening, and trying to help save lives for next to nothing. It's our youngest grandson Oaklee, who's playing the part of FELIX, who's a doctors young son.
We ask Oaklee did he have a good time being filmed, he said yes, and then he told us everyone said hello, and asked what was his name, and he said OAKLEE , and they shook hands, we said who did you meet, he told us that he had met Barbra Windsor, and all the other people involved in making the programme, who all said they hope to see him again as he was such a good boy.
Oaklee then showed us a photo of himself standing next to Barbra Windsor, and some other members of the cast, which his Mum or Dad took to remind him of the 2 days he spent Filmimg on EastEnders
That reminds me I must take a photo of him to go with my other grandchildren shown on my website doing something, to show other children and adults what they can do too.
With this in mind I've just met a young teacher who's very interested in the way I grow things who's school is near the Elephant & Castle in London, I'm going to show him how to make it first, then he can show others who might be interested too. I might even go there to help him set things up, like I'm going to do with my other school project starting soon.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 29, 2008, 22:14:07
 ;D Hi ALL, I want to grow RICE in my plastic transportable container system TO HELP FEED THE POOR, but I can't do this as we don't grow rice to eat in the UK.
If you can help me do this in any way I'm sure it wont be a waste of your time and effort, as I do believe the way I grow things now will work to grow rice on a small or large scale all over the world, as it's designed to be in control of water and space, and it will also cost next to nothing to make helping to solve lots of POBLEMS at the same time.
If you do grow rice where you live now please give my system a go, thank you. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 20, 2008, 22:53:54
 ;D Hi ALL, on Saturday the 19-7-2008  I did a presentation of my reuse of waste to grow food idea at our local churchs 50th birthday, where the weather played a big part in having lots of local people enjoying what was laid on by our lady vicar, I was also lucky enough to meet and speak to our deputy lady Mayor for Bromley to, who was very impressed with what she had seen with own eyes, and said she would tell others. It was also a great day for me as lots of local people had seen my growing systems set up, but they never knew who had done it until they met me. I was also lucky enough to have my presentation already set up just inside the main front doors to the church, so every one of all ages coming in or out stopped and said hello, and asked about the way I grew things, saying they would like to help spread the word on my behalf after me giving them my website address to see more. Some people who live very close to my projects want me to help them set things up where they live as it involves using a sharp knife and helping to fix things in place, which I've agreed to do when they have collected enough of their waste containers for me to do so.
With this in mind I do hope the dustmen are going to be told they must clear all of our rubbish by the Councils no matter what it is, seeing as they went on strike last week and it is now black bag week to where we live,  which makes contamination more likely to have taken place. What I can't understand is yes all the people involved must belong to the same union, but I do believe the dustman are now paid by subcontractors not the Council, even though they use their vehicals to manage our waste. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 27, 2008, 11:37:20
 ;D Hi ALL, today the 26-7-2008 a lady allotment plot holder decided to started growing things the way I do on her allotment plot, on our allotment plot site with a little bit of help from me, as she said her newly acquired overgrown allotment plot was just to hard to dig over and clear of weeds and brambles in the time she has to do it.
What she has already done so far is clear about 5 poles by 5 poles and put up a small shed with the help of others, so she doesn't mind getting stuck in when it comes to hard work, it's just she was so impressed with the way I grew things she wants to give it a try. So I agreed to help her in any way I could, starting with some large unwanted wooden pallets which my son got for me to use, laying them straight down on top of the high grass and weeds to make a raised up base, we then layed one unwanted sheet of 8ft-4ft plywood on top to be what she walked on and put my transportable container system on too. I then gave her 6 rows of 6 pinters (60) in total to use as her base ones interlocked and held together with some string tied around the end parts of the beams, so the end containers could not come off, which worked out about 4ft-3 and half feet, leaving about 1ft down the middle before starting rows of 4 pinter as base containers on the other side, so we already know we can get 120 base contaners on her 8-4 platform, adding 2 more unwanted wooden pallets and another sheet of 8-4 plywood will double that, and so on, in 5 minutes she had set up her new growing area ready to use while I filmed her doing it and I took some photos to, to add to my daily record of what I did on a certain day at a certain time to show others who might like to know, at last I've found someone who can tell others about the way she grows things using my idea. I've ask her if I can put some of the photos onto my website, and she said it was ok, the only problem is I will have to take some of my others photos off, as I've got no more room on my website for the money we pay.
Some other good news is my potato bit experiment is now showing signes of growing just in horse manure, which proves to me Mother nature plays a very big part in our lives.
OK who would like to eat something that's grown in -horse manure, don't all rush I haven't had my potato's tested yet, I can't see any problems apart from eating the skin, ha ha, seeing as we already grow some things in manure which get eaten.
With this in mind I've just suggested to someone living in Africa that they dig out a area and fill it with old rags to help retain any water, covering them over with what they had just dug out, adding manure as well to a contained area could change the whole way of growing things if the man trys it out, as well as using my system to of course.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 17, 2008, 22:39:46
 ;D ::) Hi All, did you see me on SKY Three TV on Wednesday the 13-8-2008 to do with the Secret world of Suburbia ( Gardening ), as I would like to know what you thought of my simple to make ideas, which I've also shown on my website to help spread the word we can reuse, and recycle lots of our waste to help reduce it going to landfill sites.
Plus I've just added a photo of my youngest grandson who played FELIX the doctors son on Eastenders this year for you to look at as part of my (Young Gardeners) family tree.
Very soon I hope to be putting lots more photos and info on to my website to cover my other ideas for you to look at, I might even be able to have a page where people can leave some comments or feadback, to add to what some people already say about me on other websites I post on. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 21, 2008, 23:09:58
 ;D Hi ALL, just a short up date on the way I grow things to let you know that I'm now growing flowers for the first time in my containers to help promote my water recycling system. I've done this by buying some reduced Dianthus which B&Q were selling for one pound a tray, which I've dead headed and they are now showing some more growth, these should look good with there different colours, replacing the lettuces which have now gone to seed mostly at the Community Learning Centre and the Church projects. Of course I will add some more photos to my website in the future to show you, like my other growing ideas, when I get some more space to do so. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: zac123 on October 02, 2008, 15:06:50

is this not just the most eccentric thing ever!? this is so truly British.

well done. its not for me and i'm sure the plastic would be much better off being recycled, but hey, why not.

Zac
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: OllieC on October 02, 2008, 15:21:23
Nooooooooooooo!!! I thought this topic had gone!!!

It's a bit barmy, yes, but JRP is a good sport about the reception he sometimes gets!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on October 02, 2008, 20:12:03
Heck JR, no takers for water recycling systems this summer tho, hey?  :-\ Howzabout experimenting with growing stuff under giant gunnera leaves tho - the organic umbrella effect?

Hope Felix's acting career goes from strength to strength 8)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: nilly71 on October 15, 2008, 07:59:05
JRP
Do you have a list of what grows well in what size milk cartons?

Neil
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 19, 2008, 17:02:44
 ;D Hi ALL, for those who would like to know things are moving in WASTE SERVICES!
KENT'S FIRST INDOOR RECYCLING CENTRE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
PEPPERHILL Household Waste Recycling Centre is designed to manage up to 130,000 tonnes of waste.

IT DEALS WITH EVERYTHING FROM SCRAP METAL TO TEXTILIES AND TYRES AND SPETACLES TO ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES AS WELL AS GENERAL HOUSEHOLD AND GARDEN WASTE.

The 3.6m site in STATION Road, NORTHFLEET, has been open to all Dartford and GRAVESEND residents since September 1st 2008.
Cash for the NEW centre, which has 10 STAFF and is only one of two in the country, has been provided by KENT COUNTY COUNCIL ( KCC ), which is RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RUNNING OF THE SITE.
KCC cabinet member for ENVIRONMENT, HIGHWAYS and WASTE COUNCILLOR Mr KEITH FERRIN says he expects 300,000 visits annually.
He said: "Since the site opened it has been doing very well and lots of people have been visiting. "During the first month we RECYCLED 71 per cent of REFUSE brought to the site, which was the  FIGURE WE WERE AIMING FOR. "It's early days but I'm hoping for even more visitors. "This isn't just aimed at Gravesend and Dartford residents but also people who live right across Kent."
THE SITE HAS A DRIVE-THROUGH SYSTEM AIMED AT MAKING IT EASY TO UNLOAD ITEMS.
Bright icons are used to direct CUSTOMERS to the correct area of the centre. THE SITE IS A SINGLE LEVEL BUILDING COVERING AROUND A HECTARE.
GREETERS show visitors how to use the site and HELP THEM TO RECYCLE. There are NO STEPS TO CLIMB to unload goods.
There are marked bays for different types of household waste, visitors can drive into the bays and then tip their rubbish into the necessary compartment.
Site manager Mr TREVOR YOUNG said: On arrival at the centre, customers will be met by our TRAINED GREETERS who will show visitors how to use the site and assist them with their recycling.
"THE FACT THE SITE IS UNDERCOVER MEANS COSTOMERS CAN RECYCLE IN COMFORT RATHER THAN BEING EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS. "IT'S THESE EXTRA TOUCHES WHICH MAKE VISITING PEPPERHILL A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO RECYCLE EVEN MORE."
TV presenter and ENVIRONMENTALIST PHILIPPA FORRESTER officially opened the site last week. She said: I'm very proud to be able to launch this exciting new facility.
"This is the first time I have visited an INDOOR RECYCLING CENTRE. I would now like to see one where I live as I'm very big on recycling."
She added: "WE LIVE ON A SMALL PLANET AND OUR RESOURCES ARE DWINDLING SO PEOPLE MUST RECYCLE EVERYTHING THEY CAN.
"I think centres such as Pepperhill which are undercover and easy to use will encourage them to do so."
THE PEPPERHILL SITE IS OPEN SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, FROM 8am TO 4.30pm

(me)
Now that's what I call adding a very good idea to help deal with our Waste PROBLEM, simply done by the Council and public working together in a well thought out way.  ;D 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on October 19, 2008, 17:12:58
JRP
Do you have a list of what grows well in what size milk cartons?

Neil

any chance of giving a reply to this, JR?

 :-\
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Rhubarb Thrasher on October 19, 2008, 17:36:13
having people drive their from all over Kent isn't going to do their carbon footprint much good though. It's abit like me taking my old newspapers to Runcorn and thinking i'm green
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 19, 2008, 17:47:22
Hi I'm very sorry for not replying before now.  :-[
Hello Hyacinth and nilly71, thank you for showing your interest in the way I do things. I'm sure I will let everyone know what our grandchildren are doing as we are so proud of them. As you can see on my website I can grow most things yet I don't read books on how to do it because I give all of my plants very little water to see if things grow in my containers, done by mainly not looking after them to see what happen over many years. my system works because I'm in control of what ever water there is to feeds what trying to grow inside one of my containers in a drought or flood situation, done by me not growing anything in the ground, and only adding some water to them when I think they are going to die, so going by that the more water used the better the end result as shown when I first started to grow things, to see if I could with Mother Natures help.  ;D May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: nilly71 on October 19, 2008, 19:25:03
Thanks for the reply John.
I plan to use your idea, for raised beds (about 3' of the ground) in the middle of the veg beds and maybe around the edges of the plot.

Good luck with your ideas.

having people drive their from all over Kent isn't going to do their carbon footprint much good though. It's abit like me taking my old newspapers to Runcorn and thinking i'm green

We have all got to start somewhere, before i got my allotment i hardly recycled anything. If people travel to the recycle centre and it shows it's working then other councils will follow and one might open up closer to you, visitors will also recycle more so the carbon footprint will get smaller over time.

My thought anyway, Neil
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 21, 2008, 13:45:42
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, what about this for a headline. RECYCLING CLEAR OF THE FIELD as reported in our Greenwichtime dated the 18-11-2008.
GREENWICH FIGURES BEST IN THE COUNTRY. THE GREEN ISSUE page.
GREENWICH'S green credentials went up another notch with the news that the borough has sent less waste to landfill than ANY other local authority in ENGLAND for the SECOND YEAR running. Just three per cent of all rubbish in Greenwich goes to landfill, according to figures for 2007/8 just released by the Government.
That means Greenwich has OUT-PERFORMED ALL OTHER AUTHORITIES FOR TWO YEARS. What's more 43 per cent of ALL household waste is being RECYCLED.

The results also show that last year Greenwich recycled or composted 31 per cent of all houshold waste, up from 24 per cent in 2006/7
It means the borough has EXCEEDED its annual target set by the Government, and is set to meet the key 2010 recycling goals a year early.
Our Cllr Rajwant Sidhu, Greenwich Council's cabinet member for a GREENER  GREENWICH, said: "We are delighted with the performance in 2007/08 and are also extremely happy to see that the new system is having such a positive effect on our recycling rates. "We would like to thank residents for their efforts so far, and hope they will work with us to achieve even better results in the future. We still need to keep getting better and better at recycling here, as everywhere, and hope all residents will take extra care to recycle as much of their waste as possible, and to put the right waste in the right bin."
 
(ME) It's nice to read about all the TENENTS and RESIDENTS and BUSINESS and SCHOOL CHILDREN and everyone else in Greenwich doing their bit to help deal with our waste PROBLEM.
I'm sure once we do away with the black bags all together, and we are all supplied with clear bags to use, along with a BLACK TOP WHEELIE BIN if we want one, then we will all see trying to deal with everyones waste will become far more easyer in one way or another in the future.
Whist in the past year I think most people thought the Greenwich Waste Management did not have a clue on how to run their new collection system to help recycle more, why for example not supplying everyone with a BLUE TOP WHEELIE BIN before starting it on the 21st of January 2008, and not suppling us with clear bags too, I'm very pleased to say now the Council Management have been listerning to the people who are trying to make the system work, with a end result so far that we now have a regular 3 times in one day collection service, first to go is any black bags, then the Blue top Wheelie bin is emptied, and then the Green top Wheelie bin, and then we have a vehical going round another day collecting what the dustmen leave as contaminated.
At this point I would Like to claim on behalf of our Coldharbour Estate  SE9 Tenents and Resedents and everyone else, RECYCLING IS CLEAR OF THE FIELD, THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY, adding to the Greenwich authoritys claims that we are the best at doing our bit to help the envirenment as the latest figures show.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, and may all your waste be reused again in one way or another to help reduce it going to landfill sites. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 17, 2008, 19:26:05
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, this is my last up date before the New year 2009 is here, so I'm telling you Now and how things are in regards to my Re-use of waste ideas stand at this moment.
Even though my website has been visited over 45,000 times, and people know what I'm trying to do on my own, in the way of trying to help others without trying to make any money out of them. It does seem that most people must think there's a catch to it some where along the line involving me making money,  where there is not.
All I'm trying to do in the simplest way I can, is try to tell people all over the world that I've designed a system that works, which I'm offering to the world for FREE, so that maybe someone out there might use it on a small scale or a large one to serve a purpose, for example to grow some food to eat, especially where there is lack of water like in a drought situation, or where there as been to much water like a flood situation.
My system can be use in so many different ways, and it actually cost next to nothing to make, because its made from RUBBISH which there is plenty of all over the world.
I know in some countries they look at any waste as a valued resource, and it's put to another use in lots of different ways to NOT end up in landfill sites, like lots of other countries still have, even though the Governments of those countries all know, and all the people do too, that things must change.
OK if someone is in the business of dealing with our waste to make money, then so be it.
But there are people in the world who just want a little bit of help in trying to improve there way of life.
Whilst I know that there are lots of charitys out there doing there bit involving money,  surely someone out there can put two and two together and get my idea used, along with what ever they are trying to do to help people in the best way that they can.
After all there is hardly any cost involved in my idea, and they weigh next to nothing to be transported, cut or uncut to use.
What really gets to me is when you see Children having to drink muddy water because there is no other water to drink, makes me feel so sad, especially when my water recycling system can be used to help clean it, simply done by using my vertical drip system as shown on my website as a filltering water system, which someone could set up right next to the water that they are having to use, or near by it using any old rags to trap the dirt, and what ever else was in it, taking out the rag when full to be replaced with some more rags until the water is clear enough, and ready to be boiled.
The contaminated rags could then be burnt when dry enough to do so, or used as compost to grow something in, along as it's only got dirt in it.
With growing things in mind I hope 2009 is going to change things in regards to more people using my simple system, as I'm now involved in promoting Recycling along with others who are involved in getting all our local estate communities to share ideas and problems together in Greenwich,our first meeting is in January 2009 at Woolwich SE18.
Of course I will be supporting and promoting a GREENER Greenwich, involving WASTE and GROWING THINGS as a member of the TRA in any way that I can.
If you are interested in things I'm trying to promote please visit my website ... . recycling.moonfruit.com which I hope won't be a waste of your time after reading my message.
If you do decide to use my system or are already using it, please send me some photos only of my system being used, and I will put them on my website to show others, along with some info.. Thank You.  May I wish you and yours and what you grow a long and happy life, and a Happy Christmas and New Year 2009. John.J.R.P.  ;D :D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: thifasmom on January 03, 2009, 19:07:52
what a lovely post its been a while since i visited your site will do so again to check your updates :). have a happy new year.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on January 03, 2009, 22:14:51
And a Happy New Year to you from me, also, JR. I can only but admire your undoubted enthusiasm :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 04, 2009, 23:46:59
 ::) :-[ ;D THANK YOU VERY MUCH for sharing your thoughts. John.J.R.P. :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 20, 2009, 00:35:03
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, for those who are interested in the way I grow things not in the ground, but done by using waste plastic containers and wood to help reduce them going to landfill sites in the UK and the rest of the world, I'm doing a presentation of my reuse of waste ideas on a small scale to show every one who comes to our first TRA Meeting held at St Peters Church - Woolwich SE18 this Saturday the 24-1-2009. I'm doing this because someone might come who wants to start a simple school gardening project or just use my idea to grow something themselves, if they have not got a garden, or they may know someone living in another country who may want to grow their own food to eat.
The main aim of the event is to give an exciting opportunity for Tenant and Residents Groups to showcase successes, network with other groups and share best practice.
The event I hope will inspire groups, give ideas, and give a first hand look at what other have achieved, but more importantly... How they did it, or How they are going to do it.
In terms of the stalls on the day various groups have shown a keen interest, and have signed up for the day. There will be stalls for Partner agencies and groups/ individuals with a vested interest in Community related matters. For Example.
SAFER NEIGHBOURHOOD TEAM - Will be there to support and get involved in local Communities in a positive way.
NOISE TEAM - Will be there to discuss how to effectively deal with noise related issues.
YOUTH TEAM - Will be there to discuss youth opportunities on ESTATES.
FAMILY FORUM - Will be there offering support and running activities for parents with children under five in local Communities.
TENANCY SERVICES - Will be there to discuss tenancy related matters and how the team can get involved and support Community groups.
AGE CONCERN - Will be there to discuss all their programs and activities for the over 55's and how to help reduce isolation.
NEIGHBOURHOOD PRIDE -  Will be there to discuss and show practical examles of how the ideology of  'PRIDE'  can be ensiled back into the local Community.
CARE PARTNERSHIP - Mr Matthew Wing will be there to discuss real opportunities to be a part of sport, to be coached and develop the skill to coach themselves, for FREE.
GRANT STALL -  Will be there to present a range of different grants that can be applied for as a Community  Group.
TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES - Will be there for Tenants and Residents to catch a glimpse of the various training opportunities available and sign up for future training courses.
WASTE SERVICES - Will be there to explain the various methods of waste disposal and to answer any questions.
GAS SERVICES - Mr Graham Saunders will be there to discuss any Gas related matters.
BOROUGH WIDE HOUSING PANEL / DIVERSITY REVIEW BOARD - Chair Gary Wells and Tejinder will be there to discuss the BWHP and DRB and answer any questions. COMMUNITY GROUPS - will be there representing whats going on in their COMMUNITY, various Tenant & Resident Groups run regular activities, some being more common than others. However, showcasing a sample of these activities may inspire others to incorporate them into their groups. Sample activities will run through-out the day in the activities are. They will include: LINE DANCING or SALSA, THAI CHI, BINGO - with prizes, INDOOR CURLING.
REFRESHMENTS.
Refreshments will be provided on the day in the form of hot and cold finger food, juice and tea & coffee FREE OF CHARGE.
MAIN EVENT: 24th January 2009 from 10am - 2pm. ST PETERS CHURCH, WOOLWICH NEW ROAD, WOOLWICH, SE18. ( Opposite Peggy Middleton House ).
For more info contact Lee Christie on 0208 921 5149 or e-mail lee.christie@greenwich.gov.uk.
I hope to see you there, may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John Pendergast SE9. JRP ( Recycling ).
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Slug_killer on January 20, 2009, 01:45:50
Sorry JRP, I wont be making it, I plan to wash my hair that weekend - using recycled water.

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Post by: thifasmom on January 20, 2009, 09:34:38
sounds like a great community networking day out, hope it all goes well :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: nilly71 on January 20, 2009, 10:07:58
Sorry, can't make it John.
I have made a start with recycling the milk bottles for 24 strawberry plants and have another 24 to go in, i have two plants in each of the 6pint bottles.
Do you think this is ok or just one plant?

Neil
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 21, 2009, 00:35:25
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, thank you very much for showing your interest in what I'm doing.
nilly 71 it's great to hear you are giving it a go, YES I've got 2 strawberry plants in my 6 pinters, and some of them are still trying grow me strawberries at this moment in time sown over 10 years ago, and I've got some white petiols to prove it, ok they are green and some of the big ones are going brown where they should be going red, which I've taken some photos of and filmed to with some snow and ice on their leaves, proving to me Mother nature will try to grow most things in my system in all weathers without me doing a thing, apart from seeing they are ok. I will look forward to you telling me how many you have eaten.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 26, 2009, 22:31:23
 ;D  ::) Hi ALL what a great day it was meeting so many people who had gathered together under one roof to talk about things that went on in their Communities, which they all wanted to share with other Communities. There was at least 30 different groups of people all having a great time talking to each other, and enjoying each other company in a atmusphere of taking part in something new, which I'm please to say that I took part in as well, as just an ordinary member of the public who had something to add to the days newness.
We had a surprise visit from our Mayor of Greenwich Steve Offord who was very impressed with what was going on, and he took the time to stop and talk to most of the people who were there, and we had the local press visited too, who I'm pleased to say found like lots of other people said that my presentation of growing things was of interest to them too..
There were so many people who said that they would help me to spread the word after seeing with their own eyes, what I had grown, and the way I grow things in such a very simple way they felt that they must get involved, I'm now pleased to say that I've now been invited to go to other Communites where they are starting up their own Community gardens projects, and they want me to help them to set up my system of growing things in waste plastic containers so that the young and old can grow things in a fun way for next to nothing, in their gardens or Communities. On the day from about 9am  until about 3pm I don't think I stopped talking to people who are doing their own bit in their own way, just like our own C.T.R.A. members who took part in providing some music along with some bingo when the break periods were called, and they showed films and talked to others about what they did on our Coldharbour Estate too, ending up with a invite to do the same thing on another estate in the future.
All in all I would recommend to any community group try and the same thing no matter where they live.
For more info on how to get things sorted out why not contact Mr Lee Christie, at Lee.Christie@greenwich.gov.uk I'm sure it won't be a waste of your time. Thank you.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy John. J.R.P. (recycling)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 28, 2009, 00:52:04
 ;D Hi ALL, they say it's good to talk, and I can prove it. On saturday the 24-1-2009 I spoke to our Greenwich waste service team, who were at our new Community meeting held in St Peters Church Woolwich SE18. With an end result being today the 26-1-2009 we had our small Black Top Wheelie Bins delivered to those who had filled in the form for one last year. Which was the main reason I spoke to the lady about, as I was told that they were on order, but she said she could not say when we would get them. I did say to her that I had already contacted the head of waste services, and he said the same thing, but to day after talking to her on saturday I got a suprise, our Coldharbour estate Community SE9 in Greenwich got their small ones, with the larger ones to follow soon.
OK we have got to find a space for them, but doing away with seeing so many black plastic sacks or bags all over the place ripped apart by foxes or rats or cats must be a good thing at the end of the day. That's why I said it's good to talk if I helped speed things up, if I didn't then at least I had my say about trying to do my bit for the environment on behalf of others.. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P. (recycling)  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: thifasmom on January 28, 2009, 09:43:58
Result ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 01, 2009, 23:54:19
 ;D  ::) Hi ALL, for those who may be interested in the way I grow things, I could be on SKY 2  as they are showing the programme Secret Life of Suburbia again at 4-30am on most days, my topic was ( Gardening ). I'm also hoping to be in our local  News paper too, along with others after having our first big Community meeting held on the 24-1-2009.
If there are any photos of the day I will try and put them on my website now I've got some more room to put things on. I was going to contact Hugh Fearnley - Whittingstall after watching his programme all about chickens, because it also did say that he was looking for people with different ways of growing things for his next programme in the spring, but I can't find his e-mail address to ask him if mine was any good or not for him to show. There is a website but at this moment you can only post comments on it. Today the 1-2-2009 they forecast SNOW  and at 5-30pm we got it,  where are the gritters didn't anyone tell them because there's not a lot moving and it's still falling while I'm writing.
Lets hope it will stop soon otherwise the country will come to a standstill even though we knew the snow was coming, puting prices up again whether we like or not, if it don't.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.  :(
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 15, 2009, 04:27:55
 ;D ::) Hi All, for those who are interested, I'm in the Greenwich Times this week dated the 10 Feb 2009.
And I've added some more photos to my website as you click on down my menue to go with it.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (Recycling).
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 22, 2009, 01:02:07
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, I thought I let you know I was in the Greenwich Times dated the 10-2-2009 issue 37 page 7, and I've also been involved in another Community gardening project, which is in Abbeywood and it is supported by our Greenwich Council, and is run by the local Community Neighburhood Pride Team of helpers. If you visit my website JRP recycling I've put some photos on it about lots of things and some info too, just click on down my menue and you will come across my new Neighburhood Pride project 4, for example in Abbeywood which is on going.
Plus we now have our very own Coldharbour allotment website, run by our young allotment plot site representative phil, and his wife Dee. if you too wanted to start up your very own allotment plot site, website like us, we could maybe talk to each other about things, why not visit ours if it helps, it's coldharbourallotment.myfastforum.org as it's new and has just started with me putting my the first posting on it to do with helping to reducing some of our waste going to lanfill sites. John. 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 01, 2009, 17:53:19
 ;D ::) Hi All, today I added some more photos covering my NEW Community garden project (4) and growing Rhubarb and Polyanthus for the first time using my simple system.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy.John.J.R.P.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 03, 2009, 21:47:38
 ;D ::) Hi All, this is our New allotment website in SE9.
www.coldharbourallotment.myfastforum.org 
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 09, 2009, 01:29:17
 ;D ::) :-[ Hi ALL again, I was only in the Greenwich Times again on the 24-2-2009 all thanks to a lady who I met called Jakki Gillett, who thought my growing system was worth writing to them about, as she had tried it out and it had worked for her. So she thought she would take the time to help spread the word, in doing so she only won the STAR LETTER on page 4 issue number 39, which I've put a copy of on my website as a press cutting to say thank you, which I will do again if someone else does the same thing. If only there were more people like Jakki who would help to spread the word, I would be a very happy man.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on March 09, 2009, 20:23:39
Many Congrats JR 8) I can see why you're so excited to have your growing methods extolled in the press 8)...however, unfortunately, I can't see the letter which Jakki wrote, even when I tried to enlarge it :-\

Any chance you can reproduce it here?

Kindest Regards,

lishka
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 10, 2009, 00:27:11
 ;D ::) :-[ Hi Hyacinth, thank you for showing your interest in the way I grow things, I'm sorry if you and others can't read the letter Jakki wrote on my website,  :( I will see what my wife can do to help me sort this out in some way.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 12, 2009, 14:48:17
;D ::) :-[ Hi Hyacinth, thank you for showing your interest in the way I grow things, I'm sorry if you and others can't read the letter Jakki wrote on my website,  :( I will see what my wife can do to help me sort this out in some way.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.  :)

  ;D  ::)  :-[ Hi Hyacinth, I sorry for not replying sooner, at this moment all we can suggest is that when you click on my photos they come up larger, but we found if you right click on it again below it you can zoom in or out, and move it about without changing anything on my website its self. At this moment we are not sure how to put things onto other websites apart from writing, but I'm sure someone out there will tell us how to do it in a very simple way please to help solve this PROBLEM, as I'm in the process of putting new photos on my website, to add to all my others in the way of a update of what I'm doing to help spread the word. John.J.R.P.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 17, 2009, 00:26:57
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, today I've added some more photos to my website to do with my New 4th Community Garden Project in stages, and what I intend to grow, and of what I'm growing right now with the help of Mother Nature, which you might like to take a look at if your interested in gardening or growing your own, or Reusing, Recycling some of our waste.  :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P. (recycling).
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on March 17, 2009, 20:36:18
Hello JR...thanks for the advice on how to zoom in and out, I'll have a play around. Cheers!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: iain j on March 18, 2009, 08:51:32
Most recycling centres now recycle plastic bottles, well they recycle a great deal more then they did. It is a shame that the kerbside recycling don't take carboard, plastic bottles as we wouldn't need to use a
motor car/van and save the fuel, saving the environment even more  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: GodfreyRob on March 18, 2009, 09:21:37
There is a lot of variation between local authorities when it comes to recycling - we can put metal, a lot of plastics paper and cardboard in our recycling bin but not glass.  So we have to take our glass (mostly wine bottles) to the nearest supermarket recycling place (luckily its pretty close).
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: cornykev on March 18, 2009, 19:54:30
Ours take glass bottles and jars, tins and cans, only plastic bottles, all papers and cardboard if not to big to fit in there bins.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 19, 2009, 00:50:18
In Greenwich we found it takes about a year to get any problems with our waste collection service sorted out even though we are the best in the Country.
What I've found is if you invite the top people in your Council who deal with your waste to come to any meeting, they will either come themselves or send someone else to do a presentation as they want us ALL to do our bit. At the meeting this will give them the chance to tell you more about how they intend to deal with your waste. But this will also give you the chance to tell them how you would like to be served by the Council as Tax payers, who pay their wages. The biggest problem we have got is some people don't give a ---- and go through life thinking nothing applies to them, so we end up with a good idea of trying to reduce some of our waste going to landfill site being treated as a joke, especially now there's no money in it, so some Council will try do what ever to help keep down cost, or try to make up the money in some way.
What I can't understand is if our system works so well why does'nt everyone else use it.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 20, 2009, 00:47:36
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, what more can I say, but thank you very much Greenwich Times for reporting about our New Neighbourhood Pride Community Garden Project at Abbey Wood on the middle pages, dated the 17-3-2009 number (41), with the heading, LOVE THY NEIGHBOURHOOD ,and follow your pride. And why not if it helps to make your estate a much better place to live I say.   ;D
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P. ( Recycling )
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 23, 2009, 02:29:30
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, to make my MOTHER'S day and Mother Natures day a little bit special I've added a guestbook to my website because without them both I would not be here.
If you think I'm not wasting my time on this earth please add your comments if it helps to spread the word. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 29, 2009, 13:26:04
 ;D ::) Hi ALL some very good news our Community Garden Project is well under way now and I've even been nominated for an Environment award 2009, and someone as offered to do a short documentary video film about me and the way I grow things. Now I'm sowing and growing and showing what can be done by anyone who's into gardening and reusing waste to be of some benefit in one way or another. :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.(recycling)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Hyacinth on March 29, 2009, 15:59:45
Well done JR! Please don't forget to post a link to the video when it's made 8)

Regards.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 30, 2009, 23:32:41
 :-[ ::) Hello Hyacinth thank you very much once again for showing your support, with this in mind could I ask you to please make a comment on my website near the end of the menu to add to what Jakki has said, as it would do me good to read it and it might encourage others to make a comment too, if they are like you and Jakki who think I'm not wasting my time in sharing my ideas with others.
If you don't that's ok I will still know you care.  ::) :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 11, 2009, 09:34:59
 ;D ::) Hi ALL it's Easter and I'm now sowing and showing and growing more in my containers to help promote Gardening, Grow your own, Allotments, being Green in Communities, Saving lives, Trying to Help Poor people, World Aid, Poverty, Recycling, and the Environment, all done by simply visiting my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com to help spread the word.  :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy God bless. John. J.R.P. (recycling )
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 10, 2009, 23:30:01
 ;D Hi ALL. Mother Nature Needs our HELP.
If you are a Gardener or a Recycler you might find my idea of Reusing PLANTs again instead of putting them into composters or a bin of interest to you..
For example our Parks and Open Spaces Gardeners will be pulling out Pansies and Polyanthus all over the place to put other plants in because they have finished flowering because of mainly not having their dead heads removed to encourage more groth like we would do in our own gardens.
What I would like to see happen is to save them if we can. WHY. To mainly help keep down the cost of our Councils spending our money over and over again each year on plants which they could reuse over and over again in some way with money being so short now. Or why not let any gardener have them for FREE I think would be a good idea too, it's just a thought because when I bought my Pansies and Polyanthus and Dianthus plants last year from B&Q they were reduced because they were duying in their trays but now they are still alive with a bit of T.L.C. by working together we can make a big difference.  May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 22, 2009, 00:42:09
 ;D ::) Hi ALL if you want to see my vertical water recycling growing system set up please visit the back of Mottingham SE9 Community Learning-Shop. Or please take the time to visit our Community Garden in-between Rosedale Close and Eynesham Drive at Abbey Wood. Or my Allotment Plot site The Course SE9. I'm sure it wont be a waste of your time. Or please visit my website J.R.P. recycling to see the way I do things in a different way to help save lives and reduce waste going to landfill sites if I can with your help.
Thank You for taking the time to read my message.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 28, 2009, 16:57:38
 ;D  ::) Hi ALL I've some very good Crop Growing news that I would like to share with you if it helps to feed people in the future done with the help of my website photos being proof.
As I've just noticed my first blade of RICE growing in one of my 1 litre bottomless bottles today 28-5-2009 done with Mother Natures help to show you sown on the 9-12-2008.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy with the help of Mother Nature. John. ( J.R.P. recycling ) www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 04, 2009, 00:34:57
 ;D  ::) MOTTINGHAM FESTIVAL SE9  June 6th - 21st 2009.
Mottingham Festival COMMUNITY Trust 'Merry Mottingham'

The Mottingham Festival has been run every two years since 1973. Its aim is to BENEFIT the COMMUNITY by organising a VARIETY of EVENTS that will APPEAL to a CROSS-SECTION of LOCAL RESIDENTS and they thank everyone who's HELPED to MAKE THE FESTIVAL POSSIBLE.

The Festival is a NON-PROFIT-MAKING ORGANISATION, and any surplus money raised will go to benefit local charity.
If you would like to come along and see ME on the 6th June and my presentation along with lots of other things going on from 1 - 5pm at the FETE and GRAND OPENING.
Mottingham Sports Ground (Foxes Field), Grove Park Road. I'm sure it wont be a waste of your time.
For more information about the Festival please go to: http://www.mottinghamfestival.co.uk Email: Mottfest@aol.com Thank You.

Some more good news my ONE RICE plant seedling has grown another leaf to replace the one I pulled off, plus our Community Garden project is in the GT 2-6-2009 No.52. I'm sorry to say the filming never took place because of copy rights.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. J.R.P.(recycling)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 09, 2009, 01:05:33
 ;D :) 8-6-2009.
Hi ALL this message is to everyone who's interested in RECYCLING and REUSING things in a different way.
With this in mind tonight at our St Alban's Church Hall on our Coldharbour Estate SE9 I put forward my old photos idea which I would also like to share with you as we all must have some to show others some where. I say this after watching a very interesting look back into my past which I shared with others who also went to see an illustated talk by our local historian John Kennett who put together a new presentation for this year's Mottingham Festival.
Little did I know what I was about to see and hear about in regards to living over 60 years on what was once called Coldharbour Farm before it became a Council Estate.
Now comes my idea which I believe we could all play our part in if we would like to share a moment in time with others, simple done by making a copy of a photo or handing in the original one to say your local libary, and say to them you would like them to be shown to others in the way of remembering the past. Ofcourse they would like to have some info about the photos to help give a bigger picture to add to others, for example like living on our Mottingham Estate photos I looked at with others in our local Church.
I did speak to Mr John Kennett after having the chance to stand up and put my idea to him and all of those how were there too. He was all for it and suggested we could also hand them into our local historians too, which I'm sure like me others will do if they don't like throwing things away when they can be of benefit in one way or another.
I will look forward to your support done by doing your own bit in your own way in any time you like as this is only an idea which is or could be apart of our lives in the future.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on June 16, 2009, 22:41:25
 ;D ::) Hi ALL. A Message to everyone on this day the 16-6-2009. I know how to grow RICE in water, on water, or VERTICALLY simply done by using plastic containers as a water recycling system which is also transportable. To see what I claim is TRUE please visit my website may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. Thank YOU.
JRP recycling or www.recycling.moonfruit.com. John. J.R.P.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 01, 2009, 00:56:49
 ;D ::) Hi ALL my Community Garden Projects reusing Waste containers is slowly getting known, even to the point of at my latest project some of my container section which the people said they would like put outside their front doors have been stolen, and some plants too, which was all set up by me for FREE as part of Neighburhood Pride supported by our own Greenwich Council SE10. I've even replace 5 section and they were stolen again, the shame part is I'm willing to make anyamount of section up for people to grow things in if I have enough containers to do so, so there is no need to steal them. Yes we do know it's the local kids who are doing it but at some point someone will say enough is enough if it gives people the chance to grow something who don't have a garden, but they do have a balcony or a walk way with railings ouside their door to use on the inside of course. To see stages of how I'm doing things please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com if you want to see something done in a different way.
Is'nt it great to see what Mother Nature can grow with a little bit of help, even my RICE seedlings are still trying to survive in my containers in our weather conditions, having any leaves turning yellow is not a good sign I know, and trying to grow them in my back garden with high trees and other houses all around blocking out a lot of the light, they are doing well compared to hours of light each day they would have. My RICE plants might be only 3 inches high now but something is going on with some growth coming from the base roots of my first shoot, with this in mind I've just up dated my website to another 250 MB again to cover even more photos to show everyone proof of what is happerning using my ideas, the latest one being on the Glyndon Estate SE 18. plus I'm in the process of putting back photos I had to take off because I had no room for others to go on.
On the 25-7-2009 I did another presentation of my reuse of waste containers idea when I joined others having a good time at our local St Edwards Church Fete Mottingham SE9, after a lot of interest being shown by people involved in school projects and other people from different countries, I'm now looking forward to them helping to spread the word in their own ways as they have seen with their own eyes what you can grow in waste plastic containers, to help reduce them going to landfill sites in the UK and the rest of the world. Whilst having waste plastic containers outside your door may not look ok to some people, with flowers in they really do look ok and they hide the railings too.
I hope I'm inspiring alot of others out there to reuse waste in the way I do otherwise I'm wasting my time.  May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: thifasmom on August 01, 2009, 21:19:35
i don't think you are wasting your time i checkout your site whenever you say its been updated but it is hard to read at time. either way kep up what you are doing, i'm sure it will help someone out there.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on August 01, 2009, 23:23:21
 ;D ::) Hi thifasmom thank you very much for showing your interest in way I'm doing things, and for incouraging me to carry on in my own way.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 01, 2009, 02:29:08
 ;D ::) Hi ALL it's time for me to plant my Winter Pansies in my waste containers again to show everyone just how simple they are to grow. And YES I've just put some more photos onto my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com again on how I do it, along with some other photos of my Garden Projects too. I do hope you enjoy my funny shaped green and red Tomatoes. Up date some of my RICE plants are still growing and all my bits of potato are starting to grow too. And my Dianthus and Strawberries are flowering again this year even though they only get some water added maybe once a week in this very hot weather. The sad part for me is Mr Hilary Benn as not bothered to reply to my 2 e-mails I sent to him after watching some TV programme all about food and waste, and the way he would like to do things in different ways as the Environment and food Minister.
All I would like him to do is link me to all the people he knows who maybe are interested in using my growing system, made from waste to help reduce it going to landfill sites in the UK and the rest of the world. If Mr Hilary Benn don't want to know what chance have I got in this crazy world. I suppose only time will tell if I've wasted my time or not.
Thank You for taking the time to read my message.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 06, 2009, 23:12:36
 ;D ::) Hi ALL sad news Mr Hilary Benn cannot endorse my re-use of waste idea that works made from waste plastic containers of all shapes and sizes to help reduce some of them going to landfill sites, even though he is our minister for the Environment and Food (Defra) However he welcome the news that I'm working on innovations which will benefit the Environment, and he wish me every success for the future. and gave me a Business link. Maybe if he could have made some money out of it on the side he might of endorsed it, never mind he's not the only one who's let me down and I suppose he wont be the last. Anyway after me doing another Presentation to a group of very nice people on the 3-9-2009 at Woolwich SE18 R&B Community meeting rooms Gill Court, I left feeling very happy to know that they thought my growing system was a very good idea, and they were going to see if they can get it used in their local schools, as it cost next to nothing to make and very simple to make too, after me showing them how to do it on the night. It has been suggested that I write a book about my ideas to cover paying for things and to put a video film on Youtube to help spread the word, but only time will tell if I do it or not. Please note if you don't know me I up date my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com alot because every picture tells a story. :)
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 27, 2009, 23:10:22
 ;D :o Hi ALL my grow your own container Gardening ideas are now linked to technologyforthepoor website at yahoo.com in the USA, promoting Urban Agriculture and Permaculture ideas to do with helping Communities become more selfsufficient, hopefully making schools of knowledge and Government look at our new ways to help feed people all over the world in the simplest of ways if we can. I know President J S Ebenezer and I would like you to help us spread the word in anyway you can to help get our ideas used, I'm trying to promote reusing waste plastic containers of all shapes and sizes, President J S Ebenezer is trying to promote using other things which have been seen to work too.
As for my own way of doing things I'm still adding lots of photos to my website in the way of up dates even though some people think I'm wasting my time I feel it's worth it.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.  www.recycling.moonfruit.com  (UK)  Job.  www.technologyforthepoor.com  (USA)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: cornykev on September 28, 2009, 17:23:27
If you think it works JRP then you crack on with it, you don't get a million replies on here but I think most view what you've got to say, just don't make your posts so bloody long.   ;)       ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 11, 2009, 17:18:41
 ;D ::) Hi ALL container gardeners I'm on SKY 3 TV again Secret life of suburbia at 1-30am on 18-10-2009 showing you how I grow things in the simplest way I know how to, if you would like to know more please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com Thank YOU.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 01, 2009, 01:05:59
 ;D ::) Hi ALL an update about my Community Gardening projects and how to grow your own anywhere ideas too. Next year I hope to exhibit at the 2010 Chelsea Flower Show as they are now looking for outside the box ways of growing things, which does happen to cover most of the things I already do in my own way.
To find out more please visit my website and keep clicking on the little arrows to take you up or down the menu or text, with over 180 pages I'm sure you will find something of interest to you if your interested in gardening or recycling, or just seeing what can be done on a small or large scale if you put your mind to it. With this in mind I have some more New Gardening projects starting up soon which intend to use my container growing system, so I should have another update for you to look at at the end of next month.
All the very best, and may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: caroline7758 on November 01, 2009, 10:57:11
Good luck with getting into Chelsea, JRP. Willbe looking out foryou on telly!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 24, 2009, 01:45:17
 ;D ::) Hi ALL have you ever thought of having a VERTICAL garden acting like a screen, then please take a look at my latest Community Garden Project in Greenwich on my website ( Nectarine Way ), as I'm now doing it in stages once a week, just like I've done all my other Gardening projects, apart from my own Allotment plot to help promote the Reuse of waste Plastic Containers and Wood, to help reduce it going to landfill sites in the UK and the rest of the world if I can with your help. Thank YOU.  :)
Did you know some DIY stores in the UK are giving away FREE small trees to plant on the 5th of December 2009 with the help of the BBC, to make a Guinness world record.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 10, 2009, 10:19:43
 ;D ::) Hi ALL gess what I'm on SK3 TV tonight Secret Life of Suburbia Gardening 8pm. John JRP recycling www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: emmy1978 on December 11, 2009, 10:39:49
I'll be watching.  ;D
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Post by: chriscross1966 on December 12, 2009, 05:57:37
It's an interesting site but the coding of the html is pretty disastrous... what do you create the site in? I ask because there's piles of pointless javascript even on the front page.... viewing it with Firefox running on Mandriva Linux is a pain, and the same is true under Konqueror (and I expect under other stricly Mozilla compliant browsers).

Some great ideas though!.......

chrisc
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Post by: Hyacinth on December 12, 2009, 13:07:18
Hiya JRP,

I've not got tele, (are you listening TV Licensing, so stop bloody harrassing me :()....sorry JR, I digress...)- but if I had I most certainly would have watched Sky the other night to see your efforts/successes (and failures, cos we all have them, don't we?).....gardening's always a learning process..

So, to learning, then... :-\

I've asked before, and I'd like to repeat the request now, if I may...please can you give us your recycled compost mix you grow your veggies in and what's the watering regime? How do you make it/what's your experience of what works best for which veggies?/etc.etc.etc...you must have SO much knowledge you can share with us all over the various Forums - Top Tips not being the only one, by any means, given the recycling nature of your containers 8)....pest and diseases, for instance....what probs/solutions have you discovered there?

Oh! There's so much you could contribute all over the Forum, dipping in here and there......such a great pity that you haven't so far...

SO....for 2010...I wish you All the Very Very Best and, please.....please, please, please, be this the year that you share ALL your knowledge/enthusiasm with us all here at Lotties4all

Kindly,

Lishka
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Post by: JRP on December 21, 2009, 02:05:33
 ;D ::) Hi ALL an update to say a Big thank you to all the people who have shown their support for my very simple to make water Recycling system, made from Reusing Waste Plastic Containers to grow things in, designed by me to help MOTHER NATURE do her bit in Community Gardens, and in Schools all over the world, if I can with your help.  :)
May I wish you ALL a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a very HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010, and may you and yours and what you grow live long and HAPPY. John.  :)
JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com.
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Post by: emmy1978 on December 21, 2009, 12:13:03
And to you JRP!  ;D
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Post by: JRP on January 02, 2010, 02:28:59
 ;D ::) Hi ALL an update for 2010, I've just put some more photos onto my website showing a few more different ways to reuse, recycle, milk containers, and bottles to grow your own in, to help become selfsufficient, grow organically, recycle water, and enjoy the Horticultural therapy of having fun just like school children do in our communities. We ALL know Growing food to eat in some countries when you are poor, and in a drought or flood situation is bad enough, but to stand back and do nothing to help when you can is not me, I'm just like lots of other people who do try to do their bit in our own ways. I'm not trying to tell the world I can grow things better than anyone else, I'm just trying to tell the people who do happen to have a water shortage my system can help to grow things in on a small or a large scale if it help to feed people, and help to save lives at the same time, just like a plastic bag can do the same thing because it's a container, but what we choose to use it for is up to us ALL, even though it cost next to nothing to make it can be made to serve another perpose instead of going to landfill sites.
With this in mind may you and yours and what you grow live long and HAPPY, a may I wish you ALL a very HAPPY NEW YEAR 2010 too, all the very best. John ;D
JRP recycling. also linked to technologyforthepoor@yahoo.com in the USA, To see what I've been up to please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com .Thank YOU.
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Post by: betula on January 02, 2010, 10:34:41
Happy New Year John  :)
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Post by: cornykev on January 03, 2010, 12:16:50
Happy New Year JRP.   ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: tonybloke on January 03, 2010, 13:16:03
Happy New Year John!! (might see you@ chelsea)  ;)
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Post by: Jayb on January 03, 2010, 13:18:00
Great new pics and ideas thanks for sharing. I'm just wondering what would be the best way to secure a dwarf carton bean tower would be?

Happy New Year to you too
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Post by: emmy1978 on January 04, 2010, 11:02:50
Happy New Year John! All the very best to you and your project for 2010.
Can you tell me what you'd like to happen with this project and how you plan to set it up in communities that would benefit from it? I find it so interesting and can see your point but am unsure how the logistics would work?
Do you plan to use plastic bottles in third world countries or other containers? Are the bottles the reason the water recycling works?
Whatever and however I must say i do admire your vision!  ;D
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Post by: JRP on January 08, 2010, 01:04:45
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, HAPPY NEW YEAR, and just to let you know I'm now on YOU TUBE under the title 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening, done with the help of my Wife and our two youngest grandsons who help to make my New Year 2010 start off in a very HAPPY way for me, which I thought I would share with you if it helps to spread the word about something that works, and cost next to nothing to make. If you would like to know more about the way I do things please visit my website. Thank You. John JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com also linked to www.technologyforthepoor@yahoo.com in the USA.  :)
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Post by: JRP on January 27, 2010, 02:30:08
Hi ALL, please check out Patrick Harry in MALAWI ( Desertification) thank you. John. www.recycling.moonfruit.com and www.technologyforthepoor@yahoo.com
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Post by: emmy1978 on January 27, 2010, 11:28:00
Where is it John? Your second link doesn't want to work and I can't find it on moonfruit.com.
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Post by: JRP on January 28, 2010, 02:16:52
 ;D ::) Hi Emmy1978, thank you for showing your interest in what I'm trying to do, I just Google, Patrick Harry in MALAWI. and it came up for me under the topic(Desertification) after he e-mailed me to say he wanted to help spread the word about reusing waste plastic containers to grow things in MALAWI. I'm sorry I can't find his website to put a link to, if he has one. All the very best John.
www.recycling.moonfruit.com and www.technologyforthepoor.com  :)
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Post by: Jayb on January 28, 2010, 10:26:13
Intresting work.

Not found a site for Patrick Harry, but try this one Emmy http://desertification.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/invasive-vegetables-could-they-create-problems-adam-stuart-patrick-harry-willem-van-cotthem/
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Post by: emmy1978 on January 28, 2010, 23:50:11
Yep, it's here...
http://desertification.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-future-of-malawi-patrick-harry/

Here's some photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24356485@N00/

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Post by: JRP on February 01, 2010, 00:52:54
 ;D ::) Hi ALL an update for all those people who are really interested in Reusing Recycling and Reducing some of our waste going to landfill sites in the uk, and the rest of the world.
And it's an update for all those people who are interested in growing things to in the uk and in the rest of the world, if it helps the poor people live a better life no matter where they are.
With this in mind may I share another one of my ideas with you, which I intend to prove can work to help bring lots of different people together to help set up a Community Garden.
For Example my next Community Garden Project has already started in ABBEY WOOD on the Flowers estate SE2, with finding a good place to have one at Carnation Street.
Which is an area of land where lots of people are over looking it who have no gardens, because they are living in flats, and it's also at the end of another one of the blocks too. At this moment in time it mostly get used by some of the local people to let there dogs ---- on, but I'm sure once people see what else it can be used for this should all stop.
Now comes my New (7th) project idea, which I have a lot of support for involving our local Neighbourhood Pride Team of helpers, and our Greenwich Council Services SE10 too.
My idea is to help make a Community Garden area for people to use made mostly from thrown away things such as railings, fencing, trellis, pathing slabs, bricks, sand. wood,
gravel, rocks, plants,  basically anything to help keep down cost to tax payers, and so we can also afford to have what we like growing in the area, and to help the wild life too.
I also intend to have solar power lighting and collect rain water, and to offer to anyone living on the Estate the chance to have a metal or wooden bench to remember someone.
I also intend to have a wide path going from one side to another down middle to separate a green grass area with a path going around it, with some plants and things growing on the outside of it, leaving enough room for people to sit on bench's and to have some waste bins too. On the other side of the wide path I intend to have it as a dry area say with some sort of shelter, so it can be use for many different things, for example having a BBQ. I even intend to have a painted mural done by the local children and others too.
I already have some photos on my website showing my presentation day, and some bulb planting, so you will be able to keep up with the stages as we go along, as an update.
Please Note the stages of my ideas are to help make our Community Garden that little bit different, which I hope you may also like to set up where you live in the future like us.
(1) First look for a site where it is big enough to use as a Community Garden, and where the local people want it to be, otherwise it's going to be a waste of time and effort.
(2) Think permanent when finished, and maintenance, and security too, and working with your local Councill at all times, as I know they can help you in lots of different ways.
(3) Think of it as serving more than one purpose such as a meeting place, but most of all a place to spend some time doing a bit of gardening to share with others young or old.
(4) Having some benches for people to sit on is a must, which could also be donated by the local people who wish to remember those who have past away.
(5) Having an area with a roof covering it to use for meeting under, for example to have a BBQ, it could even be raised up enought to use for storage, with wheel chair access.
(6) Having access to water, which could also be done by collecting rain water, and having some lighting in place, for example done by some solar panels.
(7) Having in place Litter Bins, and dog poo bins, and a imformation board to serve their purpose, which I hope will also be in place when finished supplied by the Council.
(8) I do intend to have lots of different roses in place to help protect the area, and to help the birds find a safe place for them to nest, and to add some more different smells.
(9) I do intend to have a rockery area, and maybe a small fish pond, and a bird feeding table I think would be good for people to use, and arch's to walk under, and raised beds.
(10) I also intend to reuse a lot of waste plastic containers to grow things in, to help show other people how my system can be used in different ways, and other waste too.
To find out more please visit my website as I have other gardening project up and running now, and I have other Gardening projects which are about to start in this year 2010.
Thank YOU for taking the time to read my message as it might help you to do somethng different in your life, and to help others, no matter where you live or what age you are.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, all the very best. John. JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com linked to www.technologyforthepoor.com too.  :)  
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Post by: JRP on March 01, 2010, 22:13:48
 ;D ::) Hi ALL I'm very pleased to say my Reuse of Waste plastic Containers to Grow things in idea is getting a lot more support every day to help Reduce them going to landfill sites.
To find out more about NO digging gardening, growing your own, being selfsufficient, downsizing, and reusing - recycling some of our waste to help build better Communities, and to help to change the Environment we live in, involving climate change, and droughts and floods now and in the future, and helping our school children and the poor for next to nothing, please visit my website to see what I've been up to since I last tried to spread the word about my system that works in lots of different ways to be of benefit, and a resource rather than just waste to be thrown away..thank you for taking the time to read my latest up date.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John  :)
JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com also linked to www.technologyforthepoor.com to help spread the word.  

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Post by: JRP on March 19, 2010, 23:54:40
 ;D 19-3-2010.
Hi ALL from someone who's trying to help save millions of lives for next to nothing, and help to reduce some of our waste at the same time, I've got some good news to share with you. I've just said YES to the Robin Hood Tax idea of the rich helping the poor, which I think could have been called THE HELPING HAND TAX myself, to help poor people of all ages live a better life all over the world, done by the more people who vote YES to the TAX. Little did I know but our own Greenwich Council SE10 has just sent us a Council Tax Booklet today, saying that there's going to be NO INCREASE IN COUNCIL TAX this year. Plus I've just notice I'm also in the photo on the front cover of the same booklet, which is also showing just some of our younger Team of Neighbourhood Pride helpers enjoying themselves on the open day of their own local Community Garden project at Abbey Wood SE2 last year, which is just one of the many projects I'm tying to get up and running if I can, all I need is a helping hand.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. All the very best. John. JRP recycling www.recycling.moonfruit.com also linked to www.technologyforthepoor.com to help spread the word about trying to help others just like comic releaf is today.   ;D
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Post by: JRP on May 03, 2010, 16:12:12
 ;D ::) Hello everyone this is an update for those who are interested in the way I grow things, and reuse waste plastic at the same time.
My Gardening projects have grown since my last post, and I've just put another short video film on You Tube again under my own topic, 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening, making 4 in total so far for you to look at if you want to, done with the help of my two youngest grandsons again. For those who think I'm wasting my time showing how my water recycling system really dose work, but with so many people who could use it, but choose not to use it, they could be right, but at least I've tried to spread the word.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy no matter where you live. All the very best John. JRP recycling.
To see what I've been up to for the last 10 years, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,Thank you.  :)
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Post by: caroline7758 on May 03, 2010, 17:00:00
Just watched one of your youtube clips, John- nice to see you "in the flesh"! Keep up the good work!
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Post by: JRP on May 24, 2010, 21:16:42
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, If YOU want to see something grown in a different way which you won't see at the Chelsea Flower Show, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com ,  where my friend Job Ebenezer  at www.technologyforthepoor.com has just sent me a photo of what he has created using lots of 1 gallon jugs,and my water recycling system idea made from waste plastic containers to help feed the poor in Columbus.Ohio and in Haiti for you to look at,to prove it works in the simplest of ways for next to nothing.
To those who really do think I'm NOT wasting my time. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP.  :)
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Post by: caroline7758 on May 24, 2010, 21:22:54
JRP, can you post a direct link to the photos?
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Post by: JRP on May 24, 2010, 22:27:04
 ??? Hi Caroline7758, thank you very much for showing your support, today me and my wife spent over 5 hours trying to work out how I could put the photo Job sent to me as a e-mail attachment onto forums. But I could only work out how to get a copy of the photo onto my website on my menu, Jobs System for every one to look at. If you or anyone else can tell me how to do it, it would be great because I'm so proud of him trying to promote my idea in his own way, and yes I would like you all to see what he as done if it helps to spread the word. John. www.recycling.moonfruit.com linked to Job at www.technologyforthepoor.com
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Post by: JRP on June 16, 2010, 15:24:42
 ;D ::) Hi ALL some more good news for those who are interested in my Reuse- Recycling of waste plastic container gardening ideas.
Today is a special day for me in more ways than one, for example it's my BD and I've just started a new container gardening project which I've been told could be one of many if a certain lady has anything to do with helping to spread the word. This one is at Plumstead SE 18 in Chestnut Rise, which I've just put some photos of on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com today to show you all another way you can grow things if you want to for next to nothing, and help to reduce some of our waste going to landfill sites at the same time. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, all the very best. John. JRP recycling.  :)
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Post by: JRP on July 01, 2010, 00:34:16
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, if you would like to come along and say hello to me this Saturday whilst I'm doing a presentation at the Glyndon Ward Community Event Day, held at the Community Centre, Reglan road SE 18, of my You Tube 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas, to help promote the Reuse-Recycling of some of our waste, to help Reduce it going to landfill sites, would be a nice way for me to help spread the word about the way I do things to all ages, starting from 10.am to 4pm. I'm on the info sheet as Johns Recycling. 
There will also be other people doing their thing, for example * Safer Neighbourhood Team * L&Q * Army cadets * Scouts * Driving simulator * Cycle Doctor (12--2) Bring your bike * And Many More Partnering Organisations, for example * Environmental Champions * Activity Bus * Have A Moan Corner * Boxing * N.H.S.Link * Community College * Clean Sweep * L&Q Face Painting * Fire Brigade * Police * Barclay's Bank cash * Tesco's refreshments * Charlton Athletic * Thames 21 Cleanup * Tackwondo * Credit Union * Graham Edwards Cycle Proficiency * Job Centre Plus * Greenwich Card * Mary Kay Cosmetics * Co-Op Fairtrade * The Ship" soft drinks donation * Plus of course our own  Greenwich Council Participation Team donation *  Which as also help me in the past, to help spread the word , as part of their Neighbourhood Pride Team of helpers.
I hope to see you there and say hello on Saturday 3-7-2010. may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP recycling. www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :)
 
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Post by: JRP on July 08, 2010, 00:26:27
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, if you would like to come along and say hello to me I'm doing a presentation of how I reuse recycle some of our waste plastic containers to grow things in, outside ALL SAINT''S CHURCH on the 10th July from 10am - 4pm at Blackheath as part of their Summer Fayre. If you can't make it on that day maybe you could come along and say hello to me at St Edward Church, Mottingham, SE 9 on the 17th July from 10am - 4pm  where I'm doing the same thing to help reduce some of our waste plastic going to landfill sites, and help to feed people at the same time. I will put some photos on my website to show I was there just like my Glyndon Community Event day on the 3rd July.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. All the very best. John. JRP recycling, for more information please visit www.recycling.moonfruit.com .Thank YOU.    :)
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Post by: JRP on July 28, 2010, 23:41:29
 >:( GET IT SORTED!
EIGHT THOUSAND TONNES OF WASTE REJECTED. as reported in our G.T dated the 27-7-2010.
I think ENOUGH is ENOUGH when it comes to our Greenwich Council or any other Council blaming the people who pay their wages for dealing with their waste properly.
We the TAX payers have spent millions on trying to deal with this countries waste, with an end result it all comes down to us doing our bit.
With this in mind for over 10 years now I've been trying to spread the word about how I reuse recycle lots of waste plastic containers to grow things in, and using less water, to help reduce them going to landfill sites, which some people would have seen proof of when I've done presentation of the way I do things to help promote the reuse of waste.
But because there's no money to be made the Council and the Government won't endorse my ideas, so even when you do try to do your bit to help solve our waste problem the powers to be don't want to know. I say all our waste should be treated as a recourse rather than being treated as just waste.
Again with this in mind I believe the reason for the Council blaming us Tax payers for not doing our bit is because they have spent so much of our money on trying to set up a system where they thought they could make money to cover other thing, when there was a value put on what gets thrown away in this Country, and then sold on, but now there's nearly no value apart from scrap metal, the Council have got to find other ways to make money to cover this from us Tax payers. For example.
WHY should someone pay to have some of their rubbish removed if they own their own property, and someone living in a Council property does not, RUBBISH is RUBBISH.
It's what we do with it can be given a name so we all should know what we are talking about from a early age. I really can't see why we can't have the same system set up all over the UK if it works. Yes we all know people produce waste in more ways than one, but if we are talking about RUBBISH then we have people out of work who could help to sort it out in more ways than one. I believe if someone pays for something the last thing they think about is what am I going to do with it when it is of no longer use.
I believe the main PROBLEM is we now live in a country where it's a case of greed not need because we all should be living a better life, paid for by those who took part in our last war in one way or another, Surely the Council it self should be held accountable for their actions, as we have no say in the way we would like them to deal with our WASTE, even though we as Tax payers pay for everything in one way or another.
As someone who does speak to lots of people about the 3Rs of waste, when we have a situation when someone does not use their bin in the right way and the Council simple comes and removes two wheelie bins, and it took nearly one year to get the two bins back even with the help of our local Cllr John Hills, if people don't want to do their bit then give them one green wheelie bin and two black top wheelie bins, which they then can put what ever they like in if it helps the Council to then sort it out in the normal way.
In the past we had one man who was our road sweeper and he done a very good job, then they introduced a team of about 6 people and a vehicle to travel round with them to do the same thing, that's what I would call a waste of money. What I would like to see is any Rubbish seen on any Estate removed on passing, making the Estate look better to everyone including the people living on it, which then I'm sure would  in courage more people to do the same thing with their waste, rather than just saying I pay my Council Tax and the Council should deal with it like most people say, who do not do their bit.
Our Cllr Maureen O' Mara said: If residents recycle properly, household waste cost less to deal with and will enable the Council to spend more on other services affected by the significant cuts facing all local authorities." last year our Greenwich Council told us that they came top in the Country in regards to recycling our waste,  but they are now saying that they spent about 320.000 sorting it out. I think someone is talking a load of RUBBISH don't you. Why don't you have your say not about me but about what you would like to see your Council Tax spent on regarding dealing with our waste. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP.www.recycling.moonfruit.com.  :)
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Post by: JRP on September 02, 2010, 07:30:23
 ;D ::) Hi ALL again, this is another update for those who are interested in the way I'm trying to help promote the 3Rs, Reuse, Recycling. Reducing some of our waste to be of benefit, rather than it just going to landfill sites.  First I hope you and yours are all well and you have enjoyed the good weather that helps Mother Nature do her bit, just like us in a good or bad way, which does effect the way all things live in one way or another..  With this in mind I have some very sad new and some very good news I would like to share with you, first the sad news, I've stopped going to four of my Community Garden Projects because I could not afford to keep going to make sure that they were ok, after my own Greenwich Council had spent money on helping me to start them up,  to be enjoyed by everyone living on the estates, and to show what can be done with some of our waste on a small or large scale  if you want to do your bit to help the Environment, but because there was not enough water being added to all of the plants in-between me only being able to go once a week they started to die and I just could not afford to keep on replacing them my self, even though I did get them reduced from B&Q at Eltham and HomeBase at Kidbrooke. But at least I've still got some photos of them when all the plants were alive on my website for you to look at when ever you like to see something different.
NOW for the very good news, this Friday the 3-9-2010 I'm having my photo taken to go in the News Shopper to help spread the word about what I'm trying to do to help promote the reuse recycling of waste ideas. Plus on Saturday the 4-9-2010 I will be at Fairyhill Park SE9 just off the A20 to doing another presentation of the way I grow things as part of their Fun Day, so please come and say hello if you can. Plus I have some more good news I would like to share with you, I've just been invited to do a presentation, and talk to the Gardening Club members of our local Thompson Gardening Centre at Chislehurst, just off the A20 on Wednesday the 8-9-2010 from 7pm - 9pm by the owner him self, after me giving him one of  my card to help spread the word. Yes there's more we have just bought a new Computer because my old one stopped working for some reason, which we have just manage to sort things out on so I can carry on trying to spread the word about the way I grow things, and try to reduce some of our waste going to landfill at the same time, if I can with your help and others helping me to spread the word. Thank YOU for taking the time to read my message, if I can help to save just one life with your help it's got to be worth it.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. All the very best John. JRP ( recycling ) www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :)  
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Post by: JRP on October 10, 2010, 14:44:42
 ;D ::) Hi ALL, I hope you are all well, and I've got some good news to share with you again. I've just put another  video on to the YouTube website under the topic 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening , number (6) for you to look at, to show you all how you can also use Trellis to grow things on using my waste plastic container growing system, this I will be adding to soon, as my next project should be all about helping to create an area for my friend and his daughter to grow things in using Trellis, which I will mainly design for his disabled daughter who has to use a wheelchair.
Next is our own youngest grandson is just about to start doing some filming next week with actor Ewan McGregor which will take over three months to complet, so you never know what the future holds for him only time  will tell.
Next today is the 10-10-2010 and is showing that 172,000 people have visited my website so it must be of interest to some people, enough to keep on spreading the word about what I'm trying to do on my own to help reduce some of our waste going to landfill sites in the UK. and the rest of the world if  I can, for it then I hope to   be come apart of our world AID programme to help poor people mainly in a drought or flood situation feed themselves.
To help spread the word about something that works and cost next to nothing to make please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com , thank YOU. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP.
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Post by: Jayb on October 10, 2010, 16:59:29
I've just been looking at your web site to catch up, some amazing construction.

I'm sorry to hear you have stopped going to some of your community garden projects, but hopefully you have sown enough of a seed that others when they are able will follow your lead  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 17, 2010, 00:30:40
 :) ::) Hi All, I hope you and yours are all well. I have some good news and some sad news I would like to share  with you. First the good news. I've been nominated by someone to receive a Life Changers Award for Best Development and Initiative Award, which is held in England on Friday 3rd of December 2010 at the Hilton London Docklands, Riverside Hotel, 265 Rotherhithe Street, London SE16, starting by 6pm.
I'm requested to forward a 30-60 second video or power point presentation of my profile/humanitarian involvement as this will be broadcast or read in the full glare of the invited guests.
Now for the sad news, I won't be going even though it's " Recognising our Hidden Heroes"  Why, because a friend of mine did phone them on my behalf to find out whether is was a scam or not, they did not ring him back nor have they contacted me either to say it's not, anyway my reward is seeing people who do use my idea and try to help spread the word to other people who may be interested in the 3Rs of waste too.
Now for some  good news.  My friend Job in the USA at www.technologyforthepoor.com has just sent to me some more photos of the way he is growing things in his waste plastic containers, which I'm going to try and add to the others on my website for you to look at, to prove our systems really do both work in the simplest of ways, and they are also made for next to nothing to help feed people, using little water to grow something. This is what Job told me.   There gardening season has come to an end with the first frost setting in last week.   All in all they had a good harvest. From there church garden they harvested nearly 1,600 lbs of vegetables, and  Job  set up a vertical garden in his back yard using 1 gal jugs as well as 1 liter plastic bottles. and he's sending  me a few photos  to view. he also used two wooden pallets to make an "A" frame with seven shelves which can hold 21 - 5 GAL containers. He estimates his  vertical garden can produce 4 - 5 times than that of a in ground garden occupying the same space.  
(ME) I think with my trellis system also being used we have proved you can grow a lot of things using less space, less tools, less hard work digging, less weeding, less cost, less time on maintenance, less waste going to landfill sites. Plus I've just signed up to join the Children's Food Campaign at www.childrensfoodcampaign.org.uk where jackie@sustainweb.org is trying get every school to grow things, which I think is a very good idea to support, plus I'm going to the Age Concern Greenwich launch of our Men in Sheds project at the Progress Hall, Admiral Seymour Road, Eltham, London,SE9 1SL on Friday the 19-11-2010 to see the Shed officially opened by Mr Tommy Walsh, the television DIY expert of "Ground Force" fame. So I will see the shed, meet members, find out more about the project, and an opportunity to network my ideas.
Plus we have all been told by our Daughter-in-law that our youngest grandson who's still filming with Mr Ewan McGregor is going well, and they hope to be home before Christmas, and to see the New Year 2011 in with us.
If you have used my 3Rs plastic container gardening water recycling system idea to grow things, and you  have taken some photos, then please feel free to send  a copy of them to me and I will try and add them to my website just like my friend Jobs has done at , www.technologyforthepoor@yahoo.com in the USA . Thank you.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 22, 2010, 00:34:56
 ;D ::) Hi ALL the time as come to say I wish you all and yours a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS ans HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011.  And I'm pleased to say the snow has not stopped us from seeing some of our family and friends who are here. With this in mind as you know the past year has had its ups and downs, whilst I would like to see my reuse of waste plastic containers to grow things in to become part of our WORLD AID programme to help feed the poor people, and to help save lives, and to help reduce some of our waste going to landfill at the same time in the UK and the rest of the world if I can with your help, but so far it really does seem I'm wasting my time in trying.
I know there are lots of people out there who support what I'm trying to do on my own in my own way, but  in this world of greed not need Governments are now really only interested in making money out of poor people. I Know there will always be the VERY RICH, and the rich who are just above to the middle class, but I also now believe this can also apply to the poor now living in different countries. Whilst I've never been to any country to see the difference my self, our TV stations have covered most things to watch without actually being there. So there is no way we can ignore what we have seen with our own eyes happening to people,  good or bad.
Whilst I do believe I know who to help solve most of the worlds problems in the simplest of ways, the only  way I can prove it to anyone is I need to have lots of money to play with, or you try to find someone who has. The problem I've got I'm not really interested in making money, I would just like to  see my ideas used before I die, not to be famous but to say If I can do something to help make things better, you can do it to if you try too.
With this in mind all I'm asking people to do his help me to spread the word about something that's been proven to work in the simplest of ways to grow things, as a designer and inventor who wants to help people to grow there own food as gardeners, or as school children to learn more ways about how to  recycle waste, and the science of making things work, for example like I have in a drought or flood situation for next to nothing.
A BIG THANK YOU to ALL. And may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com linked to www.technologyforthepoor.com and you if you can help me too.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: sanjoseblue on January 01, 2011, 23:17:53
Hi All

First post.

Just got an allotment.  Spent a bit of money on tools, wood, etc.  I need to get some guttering for the shed and then a water butt.  I can't really afford 30 for a water butt right now.  Apart from a bucket is there anything cheaper I can use at the moment.

Many thanks
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: Jayb on January 02, 2011, 08:11:52
Hi and welcome to A4A sanjoseblue, congratulations on getting your new plot.
This post might get overlooked here, perhaps try again in the basics section  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 02, 2011, 16:44:55
 ;D Hi Sanjoseblue and welcome from me too, I do hope you enjoy your new allotment like all the other people do on this website, like Jayb said this topic deals with mainly the 3Rs of waste and ideas on how to use things, but there are lots more people on here who you can talk to about anything if it helps YOU.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: asj on January 02, 2011, 17:52:49
Hi Sanjoseblue, and welcome - try your local freecycling group - it's amazing what you can find on there!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: sanjoseblue on January 02, 2011, 18:31:08
Thanks for your help guys.  I 'll do as you adviced.  Have a good day.
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: blackcountrysteve on January 03, 2011, 09:47:48
sanjose last year i put an advert in our local free paper asking for compost bins and water butts, ....the phone never stopped ringing and got more than i needed....and all for free !!!
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 31, 2011, 13:17:37
 >:( 31-1-2011.
Hi ALL I hope you and yours are all well, I've got some very bad news to share with you as it may concern YOU too, in regards to renting an allotment plot from a council, which you may or may not know about,because I've just been told by ConfusedRhubarb that our own GREENWICH Council is going to TRIPLE our RENT's in APRIL. With this in mind johnlawrence84 -has posted on www.Allotments4all.co.uk  about now getting  a  petition together, which you might want to know more about to get in touch with him, the more signatures the better. We think that our GREENWICH Council have been trying to keep the allotment rent increase very very quiet,  because they know that there are LAWS PROTECTING ALLOTMENT PLOT HOLDERS and ALLOTMENT SITES too. Whilst I'm trying to promote my own way of the 3Rs of waste plastic container gardening to help grow things, having your own allotment plot to spend some time on, enjoying they say a simple life with people of all ages, this I'm sure will all change if people can't afford to pay such a high increase, which I've just been told about.
ALLOTMENT RENTS MAY RISE BY 200 PER CENT. As reported in one of our local news papers dated  26-1-2011. GREENWICH campaigners say many people will be FORCED TO GIVE UP THEIR ALLOTMENTS  IF GREENWICH Council pushes ahead with PLANS TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE RENTS. The town hall wants to increase the cost of hiring one of the sought-after plots by more than 200per cent to raise 72,000 over the next four years. A delegation of plot-holders, representing over 18 allotment sites, met with the Greenwich council cabinet  member for culture, Councillor John Fahy, at Woolwich Town Hall on the 27-1-2011. They discussed the move, which for some will raise RATES FROM 65 a YEAR to 200 a YEAR from APRIL 1, with a FURTHER INCREASE of 50 in 2013.
The HIKE is part of the town hall's 21.43million package of cuts and savings announced in December 2010. The council is set to LOSE 63.4million in Government cash over the next four years on PUBLIC FUNDING.  At the meeting, CAMPAIGNERS SAID an UNFAIRLY HIGH PRICE was being HEAPED ON THEM, arguing that the health benefits of an allotment outweigh the relatively small amount of cash increasing rates will generate. Members of the group also pointed out the council had a LEGAL OBLIGATION TO LET allotments AT RENTS PEOPLE COULD AFFORD TO PAY.  CURRENTLY the council charges 6.50 per rod - just over five metres.
The PROPOSALS would see the price rocket to 20 per rod for residents and 40 for non-residents, one of the members said, they always seem to look at putting up prices rather than thinking about what savings could  be made. Another member said " allotments were a social leveller , and another member said ALLOTMENTS are an important way in which the COMMUNITY  COMES TOGETHER, and if they become unaffordable it would be a BIG LOSS. Another member said, There are NOT MANY ALLOTMENT HOLDERS WHO KNOW ABOUT THE RISE.
SOME PEOPLE I KNOW are going to be PHYSICALLY ILL - THEIR ALLOTMENTS PLOTS MEAN SO MUCH TO THEM.
(ME) I AGREE, so please help to spread the word in anyway you can , BUT? I think the council thinks, because we are growing our own food at a cheaper price we can afford to pay  more. This I'm sure will only encourage more people to sell what they grow at makets or boot fairs,  if the rents do go up by 200 per cent in Greenwich SE10 . May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com   
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 03, 2011, 22:18:07
 ;D ::) Hi ALL I know it's a bit late to tell YOU, but I think I'm on SK3 TV again starting in the morning at 3.30am Secret Life in  ?   for a few weeks, or they are new ones, mine was called Secret Life in Suburbia  a few years ago, ending with me saying to everyone, we can grow acorns from a acorn tree, instead of a Oak tree. oops never mind, to me it  like saying we can get conkers from a conker tree, instead of a horse chestnut, which sounds a bit wrong to me too. Ha Ha.  John.    ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 12, 2011, 18:55:25
 ;D ::) Hi ALL an update for those who are interested in my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas and saving lives if I can with help. I've just offered my water recycling idea to R.A.P.I.D  UK to maybe help feed Japan's poor people now and in the future, why because so much land has been contaminated by the Tsunami yesterday the 11-3-2011, there responce was they have passed my details onto the operational team who will contact me should they need my expertise.  And I've also contacted the  BBC news team too. This as all just so happened after our Youngest grandson came home safely after he had finished playing his part in a film called impossible with the actor Ewan McGregor who's the ambassador for UNISEF, and the film it self just so happens to be all about the Tsunami that hit Thailand, just like Japan yesterday. and they to said  to me the same thing that my e-mail has been forwarded on to their high profile support team reference Sue Hill at UNISEF sent to me on the 30-2-2010.
Some more news I've just sent a e-mail to our Greenwich Cllr Jackie Smith asking her if she could help spread the word about my 3Rs of waste ideas, as she's our cabinet member for children and young people, after seeing in our G.T. a report dated the 8-3-2011 all about  THE NEW 3Rs 'GREEN' SCHOOL which is now open at Woolwich SE18.  Plus I just so happen to speak to two young lady's yesterday who are also trying to promote RECYCLING in schools too named SWAC, in Bexley as part of their Environment & Regeneration Service, Waste & Recycling team. I'm still waiting for a helpful  reply from the Princes-trust sent on the 3-3-2011 as they now know about my idea too.
If YOU or anyone else can help me in anyway to spread the word to anyone so that maybe one day my idea will become part of the Governments WORLD AID programme would be great, if not please can use give my ideas a try to help reduce some of our waste going to landfill sites in the UK and the rest of the world, as it cost next to nothing to make and can help to feed you too using it, I'm now in the process of replacing some of my container section with some trellis shown on my page  project (2)-(3) 2011, because they were destroyed by fire from next doors wheelie bin being set alight by some trouble makers.  This system I'm going to add some more photos of, for you all to look at, because I've designed a new wer for lots of dissabled people to grow thing on young or old in the future, which I want to share with the rest of the world too. Thank YOU for showing your support  done by reading all my message to help other people. I hope you and yours are all well, all the very best JOHN.  :)
www.recycling.moonfruit.com linked to www.technologyforthepoor.com supported by www.aliteroflight.org
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 24, 2011, 22:47:38
 :( 25-4-2011. Feeding the WORLDS POOR for next to nothing using the 3Rs?
HI ALL, I hope you and yours are all well, with this in mind for over ten years now I've been trying to tell the  world about my very simple to make water recycling system, starting from the 25-4-2000, which is simply made from waste plastic containers to grow things in, and also designed to help feed people in a drought or flood situation. With this in mind I claim there's no other system in the world that can match my idea, that costs next to nothing  to make, and I can prove that my idea works too, as I've recorded every stage in many ways, one being using my website, done so that people I hope can follow every step I've taken to prove using a plastic container as a water reservoir, and having the container cap to undo or do up to control the water inside, you can grow most things.
The shame part is with over 215,000 people who have already visited my website www.recylcing.moonfruit.com to look at it for FREE, just like a for ever open book to help promote my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening, which is even  on YouTube,  even up to now no one as taken up my offer seriously to help make my idea become part of Governments WORLD AID programme. So please help me if you can to spread the word that's all I'm asking YOU to do. MONDAY the 25-4-2011 is a very special day for me to,  and for someone else with the  words (J) son of (G) as  I'm also (J) so of (G) as shown on my birth certificate. And we are still trying to show the way to live a better life.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.JRP, who says, time is running out for me too.  :(
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 25, 2011, 00:35:38
 >:( Hi ALL, what you won't see at the Chelsea Flower Show , why, because it's to basic and cost next to nothing to make, even though it's to do with growing things and recycling water, and the 3Rs of waste done in the simplest ways by design. If you want to know more please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com for FREE info on how to use my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas for all ages, supported by SWAC in Bexley.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, John. JRP (recycling)  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on July 24, 2011, 17:19:30
 ;D ::) Hi All, spreading the word about my 3Rs plastic Container Gardening ideas are being ignored to help feed lots of people. I've just started to use FaceBook to let more people know, that there's no need for anyone to die from hunger if they use my very simple to make water recycling system, to grow thing in, using them as water reservoirs or to use as a filtering system, that cost next to nothing, and my ideas could be used now to be part of Governments WORLD AID progamme, if they really do care about people dying. For example. I did post this idea on OXFAMs, and DFID, and GOAL, and on UNISEF Facebook pages, but it was removed not long after, even though they all say that  they're trying to help save millions of lives all over the world, with our help.  All I'm asking for is a system to be set up say in Greenwich SE10, where all our waste plastic containers can be cleaned and re-used again  to grow things in, which then could be sent on to places where people could help to feed themselves in a drought or flood situation. My system really does work so why don't they give it a try, if it help to save just one life, I believe it got to be worth it, and it could also help the poor people live a better life too.
Please check out who I like on Facebook who are showing their support, and those who are not. Thank You.
If your wondering why I'm showing no friends on my facebook page, is they are already on my own website www.recycling.moonfruit.com because they are part of my life in more ways than one. John. JRP (recycling).  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on October 01, 2011, 22:04:36
 ;D ::) 1-10-2011.
Hi ALL, 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening has arrived for Wheelchair users to enjoy growing things in a different  way to help Recycle, Reuse, Reduce some of our waste going to landfill at the same time, done in the simplest of ways, which I hope after seeing my friend Brians doughter Rebecca start using will help some people live a better life.
To see  stages of me setting up my NEW Community project at Brians and Pats Home address for Rebecca to use, please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com supported by B&Q in their own way too, as you will see.
Please let me know if you are using any of my FREE ideas, to prove to me that I'm not wasting my time as a inventor and designer in my spare time who really does like trying to help solve problems in the simplest of ways, even though I was always in the bottom class at school, that's why I want to help other people if I can to live a better life, done in my own way to prove IF I CAN do things YOU CAN do things to if you give things a try in your own way. Thank you for taking the time to read my important message about some think that I know does really work.  May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP, (recycling) I'm also linked to lots of other website too, for example, FaceBook now and YouTube to help spread the word to more people all over  the world if I can, and I'm going to try and add another video to cover my  3Rs Wheelchair Container Gardening idea.  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on November 11, 2011, 00:54:10
 ;D ::) 11-11-2011.
Hi ALL, I do hope you and yours are all well, with this in mind I would like to see the 11-11-2011 also become a day to remember for all times sake, with your help, as the day the WORLD found out there is an answer  to help feed millions of people for next to nothing using my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas to grow things now. To day Mr Martyn Sibley has shown his support for my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening for Wheelchair users, Simply done by me spreading the word about something that actually works in the simplest of ways  by design, to help people live a better life in a drought or flood situation, and to also help Recycle, Reuse, Reduce  waste. To see what I've done in my own way please visit www.recycling.moonfruit.com Thank you.  John. JRP (recycling)  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on December 24, 2011, 15:52:33
 :) Hi ALL, there is a answer to every man made problem, so please don't treat my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas like the Elephant standing on a table, all because I'm trying to spread the word about something that actually works in the simplest of ways, and cost next to nothing to make to help my fellow Human being. To find out more please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.co or YouTube or FaceBook or please e-mail me at john.new.idea@virgin.net. Thank you. I do hope you have a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2012 too ok. From me, John JRP (recycling) in the UK.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on January 07, 2012, 17:29:33
 ;D Hi ALL I hope it's not to late to say, about our youngest Granson playing is part as Will Forrester in Casualty today. BBC at 8.40pm 7-1-2012 it will start, for us to watch him play his part, if you would like to see more of him, please visit his face book page or YouTube 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening, or www.recycling.moonfruit.com  to help spread the word about him. Thank you.  John. JRP. (recycling).  ;D
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 01, 2012, 17:15:24
 ;D ::) 1-2-2012.
Hi ALL this is an update, I've just come back from speaking to Tracy and Alex who are part of a good team run by the Wildehorizons outdoor education trust at the Environment Curriculum Service, 77 Bexley Road SE9. www.widehorizons.org.uk  who have shown a great interest in becoming Friends of JRP recycling and in the way I grow things, enough to maybe start setting things up very soon, after them speaking to their boss. Plus  I've also spoken to our local B&Q store manager R.... who said he will help in any way he can, to help keep down the cost of any of my Community projects now and in the future. With this in mind if you can help in any way to restore some of the cuts that the Councils have done to the Environment Curriculum Service would be great, as they are trying to spread the word to lots of school children, so they can live a better life now and in the future. Plus today I'm going to send in a form called (Transform) a London 2012 Changing Places Initiative, to help set up two Community Gardens at our  MOUND shopping area with the help of the Groundwork team. I will keep you posted. 
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (recycling). UK.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: betula on February 01, 2012, 20:04:54
Good to hear your news. :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on February 13, 2012, 23:42:43
 ;D ::) Thank you Betula I've got some more great news I would like to share with you all, I've just been told by Claire at the Eltham Environmental Curriculum Service, that she is letting me have my very own area to show how I reuse waste plastic containers to grow things in, which is great news for me after so many years of trying to spread the word about my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas, and lots more that works in the simplest of ways.
NOW I have a proper place where children can become friends of John . JRP (recycling) and enjoy growing things in a different way, and where they can watch me doing things with the help of Mother Nature and some water. This I hope will become the MECCA for people to come and see my systems in action all year round if they want to.  As its been designed by me to be use in a drought or flood situation and cost next to nothing to make to save lives.
If things all go well I believe the Environment Centre will become as popular as the Chelsea Flower Show or Kew Gardens, just for being different, my water recycling system can work in many different ways Vertically or Horizontally, and using any water that is collected in the containers at any time can be used just like a water resovire, controlled by undoing the cap or doing it up. plus all the other benefits which make my system work.
Plus today I met a young lady from Groundwork Uk who did like my idea of making two community garden areas, both at our MOUND shopping area SE9, which I hope will also be supported by our Royal Borough of Greenwich, I will keep you posted in regards to all of my new projects which I have already put some photos of on my website.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on March 19, 2012, 00:15:00
 ;D ::) 18-3-2012.
Hi ALL, this is an up date of what I've been doing to help people grow things. I've put up a cantainer screen to hide rubbish as part of a Growing London project at the Mottingham Community Centre SE9, which can be used to grow things in. And I'm still in the process of adding lots of waste containers and trellis to my Eltham Environmental Curriculum Service Centre project to show everyone just how much you can grow in a small area. And I've just been told that I was  successful in receiving the funding to help make our MOUND shopping area look much better than it is right now involving growing things too, done with the help of Groundwork London and I hope our Greenwich Council to make my dream come true, which I have taken photos of, which are all on  my website for you to look at if your interested in what I'm trying to do in my own way to help spread the word.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on April 23, 2012, 19:49:48
 :) ::) 23-4-2012
Hi ALL, I hope you find this posting of interest to you as it's to do with waste and trying to help spread the word.   To start off with I'm going to be on  SKY 2 TV again at 6am on the 26th of April 2012 Secret Life of Suburbia (Gardening). And our youngest grandson is now on TV playing his part in the very latest WEETABIX Advert ( Fuel for BIG days). Which over 114,000 people have already looked at on Youtube, and they made some good comments too.  Plus to add to that he's also playing another part as Mr Ewan Mcgregors youngest son, in a film called IMPOSSIBLE.   
Where as I've had only 1,ooo visits to my first YouTube video all about my 3rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas. But I've also had over 290,000 visits to my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com showing how I do things. And I'm also going to reuse over 5,000 more plastic containers in trying to help promote the use of waste in Communities, why because my system was designed to help feed Millions of poor people now who are living in a drought or flood situation. Everyday we know the cost of living is going up, but what I'm offering to the world is for FREE, to help millions of people live a better life. Maybe in the future Mr Ewan Mcgregor and our youngest grandson will work together to promote my ideas,  as I've contacted alot of names on FaceBook to help spread the word, but it does seems to be a waste of my time.  If  your interested In what I'm trying to do, and you want to help me , then please spread the word as a Friend of  JRP. (recycling) Thank You.
And thank you for taking the time to read my message, and may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy.  :)
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on May 26, 2012, 15:01:28
 ;D ::) 25-5-2012.
Hi ALL this is a update for you after (15) years of me trying to spread the word about my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas, which I thought of to help feed mainly Millions of people living in a drought or flood situation. The good news for me is there must be atleast 350,000 people now trying to grow thing in waste plastic bottles and other waste container which may have been thrown away in the past, until they see the way I grow things.
My very simple to make water recycling system works simply because you are in control of what water there is, and by treating every container as a water reservoir which can be moved very simply from one place to another on a small or large scale, using just flat lengths of wood or bean canes to help keep them mainly in their place.
At this point I would like to say I'm no gardening expert, BUT, if I can grow things using my ideas anyone can, all I've ever done is see what Mother Nature can do with a little bit of help from me when it comes to using  water. With this in mind I'm now in the process of creating an area where people of all ages can see how I grow things, which I hope will also creat alot of interest all over the world even though it's to basic for Chelsea Flower Show.
I do believe that I'm a messenger of new ideas, but because I'm a nobody my ideas are being ignored by so many, maybe in the future lots of people will come and see just how simple it is to change the future for  good. With this in mind if you would like to come along to see how I'm trying to Recycle, Reuse, and trying to  Reduce waste going to landfill sites, and do Gardening at the same time, then I would like to meet you  on the 16th June, at this years Eltham Environmental Service Open Day starting from 10-30am until 3-30pm I've been told.
These are just some of the people I've contacted to help feed people all over the world because of HUNGER. Stop Hunger, The World Food Programme, World Aid, Christian Aid, DFID, Live below the line, DFE, The Co-op, Children Food, Goalireland, Concern Worldwide, UNDIP, UNICEF, Facebook uk, YouTube,The World Bank, The Soil Association, People & Planets, Disabity Horizons, The Community Channel, Childre in Need, Age Concern, The BBC, Ideas for a Cooler World, Global Students, TheHunger Project, Oxfam, the Royal Borought of Greenwich.
Allotments 4ALL, Allotments uk, Downsizer, The Environment Site, Selfsufficientish, The News Shopper have at notime said my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas are a waste of time in trying to get millions of people to use right now, to help feed millions of people trying to live in a drought or flood situation for next to nothing. Yet it's still not being used as part of Goverments WORLD AID NOW, even though I'm offering my idea to the world for FREE at great cost to me, what more can one man do without having lots of friends of JRP (recycling).
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. www.recycling.moonfruit.com :)
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Post by: JRP on July 22, 2012, 23:24:24
 :( ::) PLease HELP me if you can to make my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening idea become part of Governments WORLD AID, your reward is knowing that you alone have tried to help me feed millions of people done in my own way.  Thank you. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John.JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com :)
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Post by: JRP on August 27, 2012, 11:47:28
 :( ???  Hi ALL, I'm NOT trying to play at being GOD I'm just trying to tell the world I know how to help feed Millions ? What I can't understand is why people find it so hard to show their support for me, and using my ideas, what am I doing so wrong ?
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy.  John. JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com
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Post by: JRP on October 10, 2012, 19:44:13
 :wave: 10-10-2012.
Hi ALL, this is a up date of what I've been doing for some time now, to help get more people to grow things.  For example If you go on to Facebook ( Growing London) you will see lots of photos I've taken on different days showing me and my friends doing some gardening in our local community, where we started our project this year. One is at the Mottingham Community Centre SE9 and another is at the Mottingham Community Learning Shop SE9.  I've also been doing my own project every Wednesday at the ( Eltham Environmental Curriculum Service Centre) which is also on Facebook ( Widehorizons) Outdoor Education T, which I've also put lots of photos of on my website for you to look at too. As you will see on my own Facebook page ( John Richard Pendergast) I'm just trying to help stop hunger mainly in my own way. Simply done by me trying to spread the word in my own way too. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP (recycling)  :wave:
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Post by: JRP on November 18, 2012, 01:09:10
Hi ALL, I've got some very good news I would like to share with you. Our youngest grandson is going to (HIS Film Premiere) this Monday 19-11-2012 in London, in which he plays Mr Ewan McGreger and Miss Naomi Watts youngest son in their latest Movie called The Impossible, which I hope you will go to see, when it comes out soon.
I've also got some sad news, my 3Rs plastic container gardening screen I put up to hide 3 big rubbish bins, I had to take down at the Mottingham Community Centre SE9, because someone set fire to some of them and others were damaged too, so I thought best I remove them before it get out of hand. But atleast I've got lots of photos on my website covering all my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas for people to look at, even thought it's not the same as seeing the real thing working..
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy.  John. JRP (recycling) www.recycling.moonfruit.com.
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Post by: Digeroo on November 18, 2012, 08:26:04
Sorry to hear your project has been vandalised. 

Most places are going over to collecting plastics for recycling.  Not sure how practical it would be to ship your constructions out to drought and flood suffers.  Its your enthusiasm and abilities to get people working together that is an inspiration.
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Post by: JRP on November 19, 2012, 00:25:17
 :wave: Hi Digeroo, thank you for showing your interest in what I'm trying to do, only time will tell if I've been wasteing my time or not on my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas, if you can help in any way to spread the word would be great. Thank you.  May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John. JRP (recycling)  :wave:
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Post by: JRP on December 12, 2012, 10:41:15
 :wave:Hi ALL, can I be one of the first to wish you ALL a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013. Today is Wednesday the 12 -12 -2012 and I would like to share with you ALL some of my NEW ideas, to mainly help poor people to live a better life at a low cost, and to also help promote the reuse of what's already been made to serve another purpose. Whilst I already know if there's no money tobe made from a idea people are really not interested, but this is my way of saying thank you for ALL the FREE air we breath, the Rain that falls, and the SUN that shines, and the Moon that keeps us cool, it's only us who have put a price on everything else.  My First idea is to ADD a small solar battery charging system to the top of a plastic bottle, whats already been proven to work very well as a light sauce, using ( A LITER OF LIGHT) to be fixed upon a corrugated roof right now. My second idea is to add to the way many people are trying to grow things now to help promote Hydroponics. The way I've done ALL of this you can see on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com at the end of my menue, if you are really intereseted in the way I do things as a inventor & designer in my spare time. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP (recycling)  :wave:
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Post by: JRP on April 21, 2013, 16:37:01
 :wave: Hi ALL, this is how I'm trying to spread the word.
MAKING GLOBALISATION WORK FOR THE POOR.
Curriculum (3Rs) Plastic Container Gardening.
3Rs Plastic Container Gardening.mpg YouTube.
JRP (recycling)  www.recycling.moonfruit.com
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy.  :wave:
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Post by: cornykev on April 21, 2013, 17:45:19
Nice to hear from you JRP, keep the faith.   :wave:
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Post by: JRP on June 30, 2013, 12:03:18
 :wave: 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening.mpg-YouTube. Thank you for your time dear friends of mine, from me John. JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com :wave:
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Post by: Jayb on July 06, 2013, 18:32:46
Good video John http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfno80fmtE
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Post by: JRP on September 01, 2013, 10:39:48
 :wave: 1-9-2013. Hi ALL, I'm now on twitter to help spread the word about my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas, @johnrpendergast  may you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. John JRP, www.recycling.moonfruit.com :wave:
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Post by: JRP on September 09, 2013, 23:31:33
 :wave: Hi ALL, today I've updated all my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com photos to see them better.
May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. From me John. JRP.  :wave:
Title: Re: New Recycling Ideas(I CAN? CAN YOU?)
Post by: JRP on September 14, 2013, 23:04:41
 :wave: 15-9-2013. Can someone please tell me ( Why)  people have not taken my ideas forward to help stop people dying from HUNGER, even though I'm offering my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas to the world for FREE, so that one day it might become part of Governments WORLD AID programme right now and in the future.
What is the PROBLEM with people using my ideas, is it because I've got a young black naked child on my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com intro page scraping the earth for something to eat, with the words, Making Globalisation Work for the POOR on it, or is it because I'm offering a different way to grow something to gardeners who already know how to grow their own food now, or is it just because it's a to much of a high price to help save lives, it being, even though it's for next to nothing, and because it's all made from waste.  I know lives are being lost when they could have been saved, what more can one man do without help from like minded people, them being, people trying to help save millions of lives if we can done in our own ways.  :wave:
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Post by: JRP on October 13, 2013, 15:29:14
 :wave: 13-10-2013. Hi ALL, for those of you who are really interested in the 3R's of waste, I've just started a NEW Facebook Group  called ( 3R's Waste Plastic container Gardening) where I hope to spread the word to a lot more people all over the world in my own way. If you have used any of my ideas or you are going to in the future, please come and join me and other members who are interested in waste plastic container gardening.  I welcome you to join us to enjoy gardening in a different way, and to help stop people going hungry, and to also help spread the word, to help reduce some of our waste plastic containers going to landfill sites right now. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy. From me John.JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :wave:
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Post by: Jayb on October 13, 2013, 15:33:59
Your Facebook page looks good John, https://www.facebook.com/oneworldaid?filter=2
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Post by: JRP on October 13, 2013, 22:50:52
 :wave: Hi Jayd, thank you, www.facebook.com/groups/john.jrp/  From me John.JRP. :wave:
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Post by: Jeannine on October 14, 2013, 06:34:58
Well done John it is looking very interesting, great to see you here again

Best wishes XX Jeannine
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Post by: Jayb on October 14, 2013, 06:52:02
Thanks John
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Post by: JRP on December 11, 2013, 15:05:58
 :wave: 11-12-2013. Hi ALL, the day has come to say, for over 15 years now I've been saying there is a answer to every man made problem, so please don't treat my 3Rs Plastic Container Gardening ideas like the Elephant standing on a table, the reason why, because all I'm trying to do is spread the word about something that actually works in the simplest of ways, and it cost next to nothing to make to help my fellow Human being feed themselves. To find out more please visit my website www.recycling.moonfruit.com or YouTube or Facebook or please e-mail me at john.new.idea@virgin.net. Thank you. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, and I do hope you have a VERY HAPPY CHRISTMAS,  and a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2014 too. From me John. JRP.  :icon_cheers:
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Post by: JRP on December 11, 2014, 01:19:55
 :wave: 11-12-2014. Hi ALL, thank you for showing your interest in my 3R's Waste Plastic Container Gardening ideas, which I've also shared on Facebook too. May you and yours and what you grow live long and happy, and I hope you ALL have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR 2015 too, from me John.JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com  :wave:
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Post by: goodlife on December 11, 2014, 07:21:32
 :wave: :icon_thumleft:
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Post by: JRP on December 12, 2015, 23:00:55
 :wave: 12-12-2015. Hi ALL, may YOU and yours and what you grow live long and HAPPY, from me John.JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com :wave:
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Post by: Melbourne12 on December 13, 2015, 11:02:10
John, Have a great Christmas and a happy and successful new year!
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Post by: JRP on December 12, 2016, 11:05:45
12-12-2016. Hi ALL, I'm just posting again to say I'm still trying to spread the word about my @3R's Waste Plastic Container Gardening ideas, from me John.JRP. www.recycling.moonfruit.com  May I be one of the first to wish YOU ALL a Merry Christmas and a HAPPY NEW YEAR 2017.