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Title: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: MarthaMad on April 15, 2005, 13:52:46
I Bought some wild garlic recently. But then read up and realised that it really thrives in a marshy situation.

My problem is my allotment is hardly marshlike.

My thought was to plant them in a plastic tub with a few small holes drilled in the bottom then submerge this into my soil in a shaded part of my allotment.

I hope this will replicate the marsh like environs, by trapping most of the moisture with a bit draining so it won't be waterlogged.

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Rox on April 15, 2005, 14:10:54
hiya!

sorry I can't help with the answer, but I wanted to give wild garlic a go this year as well - can I ask where you managed to find some? cheers!  ;D
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: MarthaMad on April 15, 2005, 14:17:09
I made a visit to Jekka McVicar's Herb farm in Bristol.

She sells them online too.... 

http://www.jekkasherbfarm.com/

She was sooo lovely to meet!
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: johcharly on April 15, 2005, 14:20:11
Sounds interesting, I love the smell of wild garlic when I am out walking, how do you use it?
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: MarthaMad on April 15, 2005, 14:36:28
You can chop the leaves and use in stir-fies, use the leaves in salads, use the leaves in soup....yummm.

Flowers are edible too.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: wardy on April 15, 2005, 14:49:35
Might sound a daft question but that garlic you find it woodlands is this the edible variety????
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: MarthaMad on April 15, 2005, 15:17:23
Might sound a daft question but that garlic you find it woodlands is this the edible variety????

Not daft at all.... But yeah, it is edible..   Very mild garlic taste, which suits its self as a salad leaf.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: moonbells on April 15, 2005, 15:18:06
Might sound a daft question but that garlic you find it woodlands is this the edible variety????

yes (and no) there's a European one with triangular cross section leaves that is becoming a pest and isn't the genuine wild ramsons.

There used to be a LOT of the genuine ones in the back, wooded part of Tapton Park :) as I used to walk home through them from school! But I guess that they fall under the same laws as bluebells and you can't dig them up.

moonbells
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Svea on April 15, 2005, 15:25:48
the leaves make a wonderful pesto, too
this has really become very fashionable again in germany - being sold at farmer's markets and that. it sure used to be a peasant's veg/herb as it grew wild (it's also protected over there in the wild)

svea
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: wardy on April 15, 2005, 18:03:58
Moonbells    I was in Tapton Park on Tuesday.  Never been before but I had to go to Tapton House on a course and there it was so I had a gleg before coming home  :)
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: cyrilsquirrel on April 23, 2005, 10:06:13
Hi all , I have got so much wild garlic in the garden,I dont know what to do with it all!!!

If anyone wants any I will happily dig up a chunk and send it out.....(now wondering the best way to get it through the post in one piece.)

It is VERY hardy and spreads like wildfire!!

Let me know if I can help anyone out with this  ;D
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 23, 2005, 10:46:00
You've beaten me to it cyrilsquirrel.
That is if what I call wild garlic is what you are all referring to.  white bluebell like flower only smaller and very strong smell of garlic of course.  must admit I have never eaten it.
Wouldn't say it needed to be in marshy conditions, probably does better it it doesn't dry out completely but then when we've had very hot summers and little rain I've never watered it but it still keeps multiplying

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: tim on April 24, 2005, 12:14:12
This is 'wild garlic'?
Bought at the market this am. Note the flower bud!
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 24, 2005, 12:58:41
Hi Tim,
If that is wild garlic, then mine isn't.  the leaves are more like bluebell leaves.
Might take a photo later and post it.

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: redimp on April 24, 2005, 13:49:10
These are two pictures taken from one of my wildflower books.  The first picture is Ramsons - true wild garlic, the second is of Keeled garlic.  There is another, it is field garlic but has the same habitat (dry grassland) and looks very similar to the Keeled - this no picture.  All three are Alliums.  The only one I have ever come across is Ransoms which like woodland.  It smells strong and I am thinking of getting some, I do not know about the other two.

(http://uk.msnusers.com/0qfhoe5cnal86h6hkjqd9q20m4/Documents/Ramsons.jpg) (http://uk.msnusers.com/0qfhoe5cnal86h6hkjqd9q20m4/Documents/Keeled%20Garlic.jpg)
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 24, 2005, 14:17:03
redclanger I can't see your pictures, I've just got little boxes with a cross in them and they won't open but here is a photo of my wild garlic or whatever it is.  If it's what you are thinking of getting then let me know and I'll dig up some bulbs and send them to you.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/merlinsmum19/WildGarlic.jpg)

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: redimp on April 24, 2005, 14:24:38
They are showing up at my end.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 24, 2005, 14:34:35
maybe but there is nothing here!  :'(

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: redimp on April 24, 2005, 15:38:57
Try again!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/redclanger/Ramsons.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y173/redclanger/KeeledGarlic.jpg)
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 24, 2005, 16:33:02
can see them this time, thanks.
so what is mine?

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Lily on April 24, 2005, 16:57:41
I have a plant that smells of Onions which I thought was Wild Garlic.  It has White Flowers and Round leaves, with thick roots, not bulbs.  It seems to be self seeding all over the place.  Sorry can't take a photo, no digital camera.  Does anyone have any ideas as to what it might be.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: philcooper on April 25, 2005, 13:59:22
We appear to have the common problem induced by using common names.

Wild garlic is used for more than one plant Allium ursinum and Allium vineale for example. The first has broad leaves and the second fine hollow leaves like chives (or should I say Allium schoenoprasum)

Phil
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: aquilegia on April 25, 2005, 14:06:40
MM - I have that in my garden too. It's an absolute thug. Self seeds everywhere. I'm going around pulling up most of it at the moment.

Two years ago there was a small patch in one corner. Now it's in all my beds. I'd get rid of it if I was you! (and I'm usually quite generous with plants that want to grow in my garden!)
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Merlins Mum on April 25, 2005, 15:02:41
Oh tell me about it Aqui.  I want it in a few places like under shrubs, but once it flowers I dig up loads and loads.  When I first planted it I thought how nice, particularly as I rather like the smell of garlic but now I'm quite ruthless with it.

MM
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Apple Dumpling on April 26, 2005, 11:06:58
A few weeks ago on Food Heroes, Rick Stein cooked steamed monkfish with wild garlic and ginger. It looked lovely.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: johcharly on April 26, 2005, 15:22:36
I've got some Wild Garlic coming in a couple of days, having read these posts I will definately grow in containers!
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: MarthaMad on April 27, 2005, 12:19:54
Well I've potted mine in a sunken plastic tub with a few holes for drainage.

When i checked the other day it seems to be retaining moisture nicely.   And they are really growing.. taste yummy too.. picked a leaf and chopped it into my salad last night. nice little kick!
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: Heldi on April 28, 2005, 21:06:40
I've got some kind of allium in my front garden. It has white globular flower heads and produces hundreds of little bulblets. Aaargh! It drives me mad. Especially as it pops up inbetween my groundcover plants. I'm sick of it. From Phil's description it sounds like it is Allium vineale.  It still grows if the bulbs are on top of the soil and even when they've been left to dry out on the pavement.
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: cyrilsquirrel on April 29, 2005, 18:13:56
Mine is definately the Ramsons one! :)

Let me know if anyone wants any..............
Title: Re: Wild Garlic.... Any one try?
Post by: tim on April 29, 2005, 18:27:52
Red squirrel, I trust?

So my stuff was Ramsons?? Delicately nice. Sadly, didn't keep in water.
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