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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: George the Pigman on April 01, 2015, 22:26:23
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Is everyone feeling the same as me that it's been a slow start to spring this year (I live in Birmingham)? I have only just today sown tomatoes, aubergines and peppers (for germinating indoors) as well as cabbage , lettuce and beetroot (for my cold greenhouse).
A soil thermometer I have in the garden hasn't got above 10C so far!!
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Is everyone feeling the same as me that it's been a slow start to spring this year (I live in Birmingham)? I have only just today sown tomatoes, aubergines and peppers (for germinating indoors) as well as cabbage , lettuce and beetroot (for my cold greenhouse).
A soil thermometer I have in the garden hasn't got above 10C so far!!
You have a point, although it doesn't affect indoor sowings of course. We have had more frost than usual here, never very cold - our coldest was -6 this winter so far - but lots of frosty nights, far more than most winters. And phaenology (appearance dates of forsythia, daffodils etc) suggests that we are indeed a bit later than last year. Haven't got my book in front of me but I think we are ten days behind last year. But still very average seen over the last decade. The gales of the last few days don't help 'feeling' spring either.
But the brassica seedlings in the greenhouse are looking ok, need to feed them but in no hurry yet planting them out. Some of the lettuce is about ready to be planted out and I have to finish the broadies and make a start on the potatoes. Pea transplanting is ongoing. Do make a start and trust in spring. Soon you will be rushed off your feet and anything you have done earlier, will make 'mad May' easier. :wave:
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Know what you mean George , springs been on a go slow here not far from you , which has given me a chance to get ahead as like galina says a few good days and things will be off! But not this week for sure.
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Well at least it has allowed me to get on with work on the plot - building compost heaps and raised beds, getting the paths cleared, going to the stables for manure etc.. Plot has never looked so good for the time of year - not much green though!
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I am finding it too cold to want to go to the plot too often. It is a very windy site and the wind rips through. The hedges are not much use yet.
The green under the hedges is getting going but not much else.
Plot still needs work and lots of it. Only veggy looking good are my wizard beans and the parsley I sowed in the autumn.
But the cool is keeping the daffodils looking at their best and the cydonia looks great in salmon pink loveliness.
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I'm slightly later than usual...about couple of weeks, with tomato sowing..I just don't believe we are over the cold yet and there is no point doing them too early neither. And I'm running out with spare growing room indoors too... :BangHead:
I don't know if it is sign of 'maturing' or not...but this winter I've really felt like not pushing my body for great outdoor for long periods of time...it has been damp and cold and if body doesn't agree with it, there is no point arguing with it. The weather and soil WILL eventually warm up and I shall do more when the time is right.
First lot of peas and broadbeans are just pushing through (sowed in post in GH)..next lot is going to be sown soon and
I've just started to put bundles of seed packets together...ready for the action :toothy10: I'm going to sow some brassicas and lettuce 'stuff' this week.....slowly getting myself being busy, busy again...oh and some flower seeds need doing, those I'm going to do today :toothy10:
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Apart from the wind damage to my now drunken reeling fence posts, I am enjoying this long slow spring as I have time to get on with all the jobs without things rushing along so fast I can't keep up.
I remember the first week of April 2006 and my garden still being frozen after a perishing winter with very few daffs showing through and certainly no sign of buds on roses and other shrubs. Winter 06/07 was even worse. Temps of -15C for a few weeks are standard here but that year we hit -32C in early January. Spring then comes late and all in a whoosh.
This is the second winter in a row here we haven't got below -6C and have had very little snow but lots of rain. The first snowdrops appeared in a sheltered spot in late November. All the others started in February and are just going over. Crocuses have appeared and flowered for a long time and now the daffs and hyacinths are coming through in the soil and the tulips and other bulbs in pots. Roses are putting on fresh growth and the clems are starting to shoot too.
A month ago I sowed leafy stuff like salads, herbs and brassicas in my unheated greenhouse. They've come through in their own sweet time and were pricked out this Tuesday. Last week I sowed toms, chilies and peppers in heated propagators. The toms are through already and pricked out and the peppers and chilies are showing now. Sowing broad beans today and then spring onions and planting sets on Saturday when we hope the weather won't be drenching us.
Tomorrow OH and I will go and buy the wood and fixings we need to restore our fence posts to a vertical, sober attitude and then I can get on with pruning cornuses and taking cuttings and training the soft fruits while OH forks over the veggie beds. He's taken next week off so we can get the veg and fruit sorted so we can stay ahead this growing year.
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its been the cold wind thats caused the most problems here on the east coast but today has been nice so lets hope its not long before i can plant out all the seedlings crammed into my greenhouse :icon_cheers: so the plots all locked up lol
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The willow catkins are definitely a little late here. Things are coming up vary slowly, I haven't done much planting, and dropping election leaflets has been a bit of an ordeal at times.
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plot looking rather sad for itself :coffee2:
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plot looking rather sad for itself :coffee2:
No!
Not sad, just waiting for the green light!
I could show you some plots near mine that are really sad...
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dont matter with my plot its a field covered in black plastic just aswell as ive not been up for a couple of weeks now looking after ill family at moment but managed to plant me spuds garlic was in late last year and im currently clearing the next bit for me butternut squash to go in but that will have to wait till family is better just try to keep on top of the weeds till then
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finally I have a few broad beans planted outdoors coming thro ,also a glimpse of potato planted under fleece but my early sowings of parsnips are very sparse,onions planted in autumn have disappeared
Like the idea. Of a soil thermometer and knowing the acidity of your soil
Next year I think I'll be more scientific and avoid sowing early-- it's been my downfall lately,allotment too exposed
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Don't worry everyone! There's no such thing as a 'normal' start day for spring ... just averages.
Fairly soon it will be :sunny: all round and the plants will make up for lost time. If you've got spare windowsill or greenhouse space why not try putting in some modules of things you'd normally sow directly to give them a head start - then get them out once spring has caught up. I'm doing it with peas, carrots and parsnips this year coz I know that if I put them straight in now nothing will germinate.
My hotbed using spent hops rather than manure has also been in play this year and I've managed to germinate cucumbers and watermelons directly on the plot! Whether they make it through to maturity with such an early start is debatable but we'll see!
Just keep thinking positively ... it's bound to warm up soon!
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been hand pollinating my apricot Alfred this morning he is always early so needs a helping hand
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And there we have it - the Sun came out, the poly tunnel is hot, there are bees on the early blossom, toms are having a holiday from the window sill, compost heaps are steaming and I am in a t shirt and shorts!! it feels like Spring has sprung!
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I can't work in this heat! :BangHead: Where is the rain? :tongue3:
Little bit of sun and my head is not right :drunken_smilie:..I got wild with seed sowing, should all the varieties that I did germinate..I don't have no change fitting them all 'in'..and that is only brassicas! :drunken_smilie: 'Dangerous business' this bright weather is.. :glasses9:
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i know but was brought down to earth with a easter bump when my wife announced that the grankids were coming up and i was to stage a egg hunt on my plots :BangHead: however in the sunshine they had a great time and i had to admit so did i :blob7: :angel13:
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Not long back from the allotment. Beautiful afternoon here, warmish and sunny. Played with my new weed wand while son did some digging.
Wandered down to my original allotment (other end of allotments). Brussels Sprouts I planted last year are still only abut 14 inches high and the sprouts haven't grown more than half an inch in diameter. I wonder what is in the soil on that plot that stunts the growth of plants (if they grow at all).
New plot seems to have better soil so hopefully I'll get some veg this year.
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maybe in the past they have had a bonfire on that part of the plot and burnt plastic and such like may have tainted the soil :BangHead:
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Nice warm afternoon on the plot today, with butterflies and bumblebees out. The election is really taking it out of me, but I got something done anyway.
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got to the plot this morning at 7:30 9 degrees sunny by midday it was 6 degrees and a cold wind not an insect in sight :sunny:
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Well what a difference a few days make. Was at the lotty today with the sun beating down doing my last bit of digging before rotavation. Still very wet though. Soil was wet and muddy only an inch below he ground. Not sure whether it will dry out enough to rotavate this week despite the dry weather forecast.
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maybe in the past they have had a bonfire on that part of the plot and burnt plastic and such like may have tainted the soil :BangHead:
No. It was the whole plot. It was seriously weed infested, particularly bindweed, docks and others. I tried growing plants further down the plot, put in new rhubarb crowns - they died. Neighbour gave me some of his rhubarb crowns, planted them at the opposite end, they died. Dug them up and they were rotten. Even my runner beans (Scarlett Emperor), the only thing that did produce something, weren't that good a crop, the plants sparse, not many leaves on them.
One of my neighbours at the new plot said that I was wasting my time, effort and money as many of the plots at that end (opposite to where I am now) have very poor soil and little if anything grows, hence even people have had tried for several seasons give up in the end.
New plot I'm on seems to be a lot better. My Rosemary is flourishing, so is the rose I rescued from the vacant, overgrown plot next door (just as well I did as the council came in with their tractor to cut the grass and they would have run the poor thing over and killed it) and couple of lavendar plants I put in are growing. Soil is still clay but seems a lot more friable than the old plot. Apparently the plot I'm on was well looked after until 2-3 years ago when the tenant passed away. I would say that's probably the case as weeds, apart from a patch by the shed which has a fair bit of couch grass on it - which I'm digging up, is relatively weed free. It's grassed over but the roots aren't that deep and just turning it over and letting the sun do the rest seems to be working quite well.
Would have liked to have turned it over before winter set in but son's kidney transplant failed after 6 years, he wasn't feeling very well so the plot had to take a back seat. He's on renal dialysis now and has got a lot of his energy back so is helping out as and when he can.
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i had a clay soil plot in chingford many years back it took 3 ton of well rotted horse manure to get it around it was on a slope i tiered it all installed a watering system slabbed pathways between the tiers brick built the tiers first year a bumper crop then the wife told me we were moving it took me 2 years but to the point it was the manure that done the trick on clay you really cant have enough hope this helps :blob7: :blob7: