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General => The Shed => Topic started by: Jeannine on March 10, 2012, 05:26:03
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Wow.. :o
Today I was at the hospital for some lung function tests and got the % of how my lungs are functioning, the specialist I saw was advising me on medications etc to improve the function and also was assisting me with other ways to help, losing weight was one but he agreed that with my level of pain and mobility it is difficult. I am maintaining my weight of the past few years, not putting more on but I am doing so by eating very little, if I eat more with my level of mobility I would gain...then the bombshell came " you need to use marijuana" ::)
I thought he was kidding and asked" how on earth will that help my breathing?" ???
" It won't " he said, " but it will help with your pain level and make moving and excersise much easier"
I couldn't believe my ears, but he was serious and suggested I think about it. He further suggested that I use it in baked goods rather than smoking it which could be a problem for my breathing.
At my age.. does it mean I have to I don a sheepskin jacket, part my hair down the middle and wear flowers in it,or can I bake my brownies as I lean on my elbow crutches.
The mind boggles.. :D :D
It is legal in Canada for medicinal purposes for some things and he said I am allowed to grow my own.
Maybe I should put this thread in the swap section.. ;D ;D ;D
XX Jeannine
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Reggae music is a lovely rhythm to garden with ;D. Seriously though it does benefit some illnesses. I tried it when my knee was at its worse and I don't know if it helped but my wife said it put me in a more relaxed and better mood.
I had a friend who has sadly passed on but she had MS and would smoke and eat it all the time. She swore that it helped her to endure the illness. It is the misuse of the drug that is the problem. The same as morphine is used for pain relief, no problem, but it is a curse when misused.
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;D ;D ;D Wow, indeed ;D...I've always wanted to grow some 'weed'..not to use, but just for sake of 'ticking a box' and able to say 'been there and done that'.
Sorry dear..I would love to 'swap' some seeds with you but I ain't having none of them in my seedboxes..well, not in my knowledge, unless somebody has substituted 'wrong' seeds in swap.. :-\
Are you going to have a go growing some?
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I think there was talk of researching & isolating the the chemical in it that aids pain relief but until then go for Jeannine ;D. Quality of life is so important & well done on maintaining your weight.
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I don't know what I am going to do truthfully, I just can't stop laughing..it would raise an eyebrow or two here on pot luck days and you all know how I like to share, half the old gals in my building would probably benefit from a bit... maybe I will make brownies and we can all have a great knees up !!
Just kidding
XX Jeannine
OOh and I forgot, it has had some great effects on Alzeimers patients.. get ready John
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I think "we" grew some by accident a few years back. Would it have been included in wild birdseed?
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Thats hemp XX Jeannine
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Thats hemp XX Jeannine
Just as well - can't be doing with blue-flashing lights outside.
It would disturb the neighbours. ;)
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Well the good news is that Cannabis (Don't like the word marijuana. It has racist overtones) never hurt anybody in over 10,000 years of recorded use. So one thing you can be sure of, it is safe. ;)
Cannabis is actually available here in the UK and in Canada and quite a few other countries as an orally-taken spray called Sativex (http://www.gwpharm.com/sativex.aspx) which is, despite the blurb trying to make it seem otherwise, a full-plant extract with nothing added except some alcohol as a propellant and a little peppermint extract to taste.
Cannabis works to help alleviate pain without a doubt. It also helps with a variety of ailments and is currently showing some pretty astonishing results and plenty of promise in mankinds fight against cancer, and not just the symptoms, but actual cancer itself.
I could go on for hours. I would too if it would help. :)
I'm glad your doctor has the sense to see past the phoney 'war on drugs' propaganda, and I'm sure you'll benefit from the use of this fanastic plant.
Happy daze Jeannine... happy daze. lol :P
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If its going to help Jeannine its certainly worth a try. It is a great medicinal plant, unfortunately abusing this and other marvelous plants (opiates ) have caused such a problem for those folk who benefit most from using them sensibly.
I echo what Nigel says though........happy daze ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I am going to discuss it with my Dr. Jonathan is usually pretty forward thinking so he may well prescribe it.
I still can't stop laughing though. I guess I just can't get the hippy picture out of my head, young folks in funny clothes puffing away, then I put my wrinkly face in the clothes and I burst out laughing.
It has certainly cheered me up as the lung tests were not so good, but maybe if I join the "happy daze gang" I won't care.
I will keep you informed...
Puff the Magic Dragon...la la la
XX Jeannine
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;D ;D ;D Nowt wrong with aging hippies.......Im one too, although Im cannabisless ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D Wow, indeed ;D...I've always wanted to grow some 'weed'..not to use, but just for sake of 'ticking a box' and able to say 'been there and done that'.
Done that, parents not impressed........
I think seeds are still legal over here it's just growing it thats not ::)
It can be a great painkiller so if you're happy with the idea go for it.
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Loving the thought of our Jeannine going all flower power. ;D I'm thinking 'enhanced' chocolate brownies...
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Here we go, Jeannine, just for you x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLoAqbz2vI
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Here we go, Jeannine, just for you x
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzLoAqbz2vI
Love it Manics!
Now I know you aren't a great fan of flower growing Jeannine but there's no excuse now ;D ;D ;D
Ninnys
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Ninny, I adore flowers and always had them in my home garden but I never seem to have enough space on the plots.
XX Jeannine
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Not even as companion planting? Petals for salads too ???
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I have a friend in Colorado who suffers with arthritis. She has a cannabis licence and takes it in the form of pills. She was telling me that she can obtain it in various forms - including powder to add to baking recipes or add to other food Jeannine! In the U.S. it is not legal in some States so she has to be careful when she travels - she is going to Spain in June and will stop taking her daily dose a few days before she goes so that she won't attract the sniffer dogs at airports en route!
Tricia
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Thanks for info Tricia, I would be very obliged if you are in contact with her if you would mind asking her if she feels stoned when she uses it, that is ther main worry I have. If you think it Ok to ask her.
Ninny you are a sweetheart and I promise you, in fact I double promise you I will sow some flowers on my plot this year just for you.. Oh I feel a buying mood coming over me...
XX Jeannine
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in fact I double promise you I will sow some flowers on my plot this year just for you.. ;D..have started your new medication already?.. ;) ;D
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One of the main medical uses of weed is to stimulate the appetite and control pain/nausea. Especially useful for chemo therapy patients. I mention this only as you mention problems with your weight and I know from previous poostings that you eat very little.
Canada is very well known for growing and producing weed so I am sure you would have no difficulty procurring seeds or plants.
On a gardening note it is an amazing plant to grow - one of the quickest growing things on the planet given the right conditions and thanks to modern breeders there are plants to fit in to any gardening scheme. From plants that autoflower regardless of day length and are done at a couple of foot right up to 20 ft thai varieties that take a season to mature..
And remember that in this, and many other fields of life, the males are completely useless!
So I'm told!
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just read this thread i see jeannine will be coming up with more delicious recipes with an extra ingredient :-X ;D
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On a gardening note it is an amazing plant to grow - one of the quickest growing things on the planet given the right conditions and thanks to modern breeders there are plants to fit in to any gardening scheme. From plants that autoflower regardless of day length and are done at a couple of foot right up to 20 ft thai varieties that take a season to mature..
And remember that in this, and many other fields of life, the males are completely useless!
So I'm told!
Ohh..that makes me want to grow them even more.. ::) I love watching plants grow..and while typing this I can't help grinning as I've just noticed my Yacon that I potted only few days ago is just showing green little bits pushing through the compost.. ;D Looove plants.. ;D
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You can grow cannabis plants quite easily but whether they will produce any THC is another matter.
As a young grad student many years ago, I was trying to grow alkaloid producers and although the greenhouse was in full sun all day, the plants never produced very much. I can remember processing a bin bag full of plant material to get less than 10 mg of alkaloid. But then again I never was very good at this gardening lark :)
But there is always the placebo effect.
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They have to flower to produce THC and most weeds plants need 12 hours darkness to flower...
Then they produce THC!
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Mmm lots to answer.
Barrie... I am concerned about the weight thing, I don't eat much and that is the reason I am not piling on weight since getting very immobile. It is a hard call. If the pot gets me so |I can excersise more, yet puts on weight I will have to find a balance I guess.
I appreciate the help on growing. I have read that there are various strains too, some better for pain and some that give you a bigger high, I guess a shop that sells seeds could advise on this. I belive there os ine in Vancouver for legal folks to get
The other point about growing it I have my grow light fixtures which will grow tomatoes in the winter but the plants have to be dwarf to fit under them comfotably. I suspect that pot plants grow much taller.
Goodlife, you are a naughty girl, I meant it, I promise to grow some flowers for Ninny, I have already been looking in seed catalogues.. " It is the dawning of the age of aquarius..la la la "
And while I am talking to you..you can't have any seeds you seedaholic, LOL, I ain't swapping pot seeds via the mail.. (but let me know when you start growing them..a UK strain mmm )
What the heck is THC
Placebos would never work with me as I have no expectations of medication working anyway which I why I usually stop taking them after a little while. A med has to make a very big difference for me to stick with it as I really hate taking them and generally forget unless my body reminds me.
Ha ha, do you want me to publish my recipes. I wonder what it tastes like. Maybe I can make a Mile High Chocolate Pie, or a Fluff and Floaty Meringue, maybe something with Pot noodles. I already make a desert called Merry Berry Pie, maybe I can call that one Very Merry Berry Pie. Oh I feel a culinary challenge coming on.
All joking aside I really do appreciate the help and education.
If anyone actually grows or uses this, I would welcome a private PM with help or tips and I truly don`t tell. I know there will be forums that deal with this but am too scared to go on there. much safer here at home.
XX Jeannine
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I remember an old episode of Mid Summer murders where John Nettles ate some cakes with cannabis in. He just kept giggling. The story was that the lady made them with the cannabis in as a pain reliever.
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I remember an old episode of Mid Summer murders where John Nettles ate some cakes with cannabis in. He just kept giggling. The story was that the lady made them with the cannabis in as a pain reliever.
I remember that one (Mrs R watches the series & the repeats ::)).
Didn't the elderly woman grow the plant in her greenhouse out back?
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I don't have a greenhouse out back anymore, just a greenhouse in the middle of a community garden ;D I suspect I would be feeding the neighbourhood.
XX Jeannine
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I only tried it once and it seemed as if everything was going in slow motion. I didn't bother again because at the time I liked life in the fast lane. :-X
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Have you seen the film "SAVING GRACE" .....starring Brenda Blethyn?
Duke
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This did make me smile :)
But actually, many drugs, when used if you are feeling good, have a differenteffect to when you take them if you feel pain etc, probably the active ingredient moves to a different part of the body and acts on it. And cannabis has varying properties depending on the active ingredient and its strength. SO you may actually feel "well", Jeannine but not necessarily "high"!!
Right on with the idea of use and abuse being different. I do know people who are occasional but long term "smokers" (a couple of times a week) and to be honest they are very relaxed and happy people and so far no one has any health effects... Probably no more harmful (and maybe less so) than a bottle of wine a day!
I don't see as you have much to lose by trying it out!
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Hi Jeannine,
I think its something you need to try if it means that your pain levels are lower and you can exercise more then your going to want to eat more anyway. You just have to consider more healthy food alternatives to grabbing a brownie (unless its been laced with your 'medicine'). I have a long term back condition and having done various targeted exercises to get the right parts of my body stronger i am in much less pain and no longer live on pain relief. I think you need to combine this new treatment with maybe some physio sessions to help you exercise in the right way and get your body stronger in the right places. Then you can stop taking the 'medicine' and see if you are in a better place.
Hugs as always xx
Cam & Harriet
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Cam, I have had physio on and off for years fro some things that are wrong but it cannot relieve some of my pain problems sadly.
I eat very little and am concerned that it will m ake me eat more as I don't want to add to my weoght.
If I using it for cooking I will have to come upo with some way of using it in savoury things as I don';t eat swwet stuff, not even brownies.
Still waiting to talk to my Dr but found he is away fro 2 weels..drats
XX Jeannine
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If I using it for cooking I will have to come upo with some way of using it in savoury things as I don';t eat swwet stuff, not even brownies.
Still waiting to talk to my Dr but found he is away fro 2 weels..drats
XX Jeannine
You'll just have time to invent / adjust a few recipes!! ;)
- dumplings with a few herbs sprinkled in
- then there's a dusting on to soup
- added to a savoury bread
- a salad dressing
- directly into a salad sandwich
None of these I've ever tried...in fact never used the stuff at all but I'm sure someone on here will know someone with practical experience.
I wonder if there are any books on the subject?
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Just an update..
My own Dr finally came back from his three week holiday and i saw him today.
I toild him what the lung chappoie told me at the hosptial and my dr was all for it, he said he had a few patients on it and is goin g to do the paper work so I can get the medical license to use it medicinally, I can also get a license to grow my own.
We talked at length and he took away all my fears.
This coincided with a friend whose Dad is on the programme as he has teminal cancer, phoning me and saying she had some for me.
My dr told me not a good idea to inhale it but to use it in food and he suggested a tea.
I also got test results from the barrage of tests taken over the last three weeks. I do have confimed Asthma (I didn`t belive them in the UK as they did no tests) I am anaemic, my cholestrol is up, my infammation level is highand my thyroid is low. X rays show my spine is crumbling (this is new) on top of my other spine and hip probelms but my chest x rays show the shadow I had is gone.Still waiting for the mammogram results.
Mmm..looking for the good in today..well I have made a definate decision to try the pot. I had a great laugh with my Dr today, quite the visit, I am still laughing about some of the things he said. I asked him about pot addiction and he said I may get addicted to cheese puffs if I take too much and get the munchies. He said he was trying to picture me stoned and with flowers in my hair and I said don`t knock it I have bought the gear. The next time he saw a wrinkly geriatric with a smile on her face and her hair parted down the middle it would be the new me.
No rain today and a great visit to the lottie ,although we were ankle deep in mud the raised beds were good. John managed to build two more, just 6 to go on the thrird plot we got this year and we are done.
It has been a good day.
XX Jeannine
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Just caught up with this thread.
Google weed seeds there is an interesting site with info about all different varieties.
I once had a police raid because someone had reported my tomato plants. Except the officer they sent had no knowledge of the difference.
The student friend I had who I knew smoked pot was as skiiny as a rake.
I do hope that this works out for you.
I am not sure that growing pot in a public space will be looked on favourably anyone could be harvesting it. You can get white light bulbs quite easiy so perhaps could grow one in a corner of your appartment.
I am interested in the link with Dementia.
I remember Midsomer Murders and the Bunny Cakes too.
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I have a light set up here already, a three tier light system each tier has 3 ,4 foot grpwlights in it and |I have growlights in my two bedroom windows on chains to supplem,ent the light for windowsill plants as my apartment faces north. The lights are good enouht to grow toamtoes through the winter.
I need to try it first though, if it doesn't work there is bo reason to grow it.
XX Jeannine
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I find Jeannine's 'venture' into herb world really interesting.. ;D..and how ok the doctors are about it all..
I don't think one would dare to even whisper about 'pot' to doctors over there..you would soon see blue lights flashing outside your front door.. ::)
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;D ;D ;D Nowt wrong with aging hippies.......Im one too, although Im cannabisless ;D ;D ;D
Mine isnt just a clever name im a hippy!
But it has been many moons since i partook in any type of recreational pharmaceutical, but in the day i found it did relax me very much, i dont smoke so it was space cakes for me, never felt stoned just well relaxed. Taken in moderation it is perfect in my mine for someone with your symptoms Jeannine. I used it in baked goods (cakes and muffins mainly) dont make too many or you may feel peckish and eat them without need.
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Hi Jeannine, I remember watching this documentary and thinking yeh... thats the way to age gracefully. This is just one clip but Im sure that there are others on Youtube.................http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djzklT2Rgk0 Takes chicken pot pie up to a whole new level ;D
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What a blow, I just found out I can't grow it as my light set up is insufficient..drats.
XX Jeannine
PS, just seen the film clip. loved it thank you
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Jeannine ..could you change different lights into your unit?..and perharps make some reflective sides around it ( like boxing it in) to ensure all light is going to the plants rather than escaping into room?
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Could you not "accidentally" grow a few on your compost heap like I did once? Had to chop it down due to teenage boys next door.
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Oh what ideas..
Compost heap. I don't have one we have a communal one.
Lights, can't change them, the fixture won't tale the high powered ones and I don't hav ethe space for another fitting.
I can howvever license someone to grow on m ybehalf and my son is prepared to do that for me .
Re Canada;s attitude, yes it is good, there are things like non profit Compassionate Clubs here in Wellness centres where old wrinklies and others can go and partake in safety...there are also places to legally buiy the stuff once you are licensed.
Hippy dave, thank you for coming forward, do you remember any recipes? I am concerned about having too much baked goods on hand actrually but not for me.John has a very sweet tooth and because of his memory he often fordgets he has eaten say a candy bar and he will get another,again and again. Ho Ho, maybe there is going to be two of us. Especially as it id supposed to help with dementia patients.
Sonny and Cher at the next dress up do here for sure.
I think my "this Years" self dare of climbing a tree may be in full gear!!!!
"if you poing to San Francisco be sure to wear the flowers in your hair ..la la la
XX Jeannine
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"if you poing to San Francisco be sure to wear the flowers in your hair ..la la la ;D...one of my favourite songs.. ;D
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Jeannine,
One of the problems with eating hash or grass is dosage. You can very easily over do it - smoking, although nasty does allow you to control the dose. Once eaten - thats it no going back.
What I would do (ok what I used to do) was to make your weed into an ingredient generally milk or butter. The oils reasdily dissolve into milk or into butter if simmered gently and then you just use the the result in a cake or whatever takes your fancy. Biscuits are good as you can have one and see how you feel. If the dose is too low - eat two. But please don't do what a Friend of mine did. Ate some - didn't feel it was working - ate some more - couldn't get her off the floor!
Hot choclate is also good - mage with laced milk.
Or you could get a vapouriser but that's another story...