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Title: Starting broad beans
Post by: caroline7758 on January 07, 2012, 16:02:40
I want to grow lots of broad beans this year, starting them off inside and was wondering what't the best thing to sow them in? Would loo rolls be ok?
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Amazingrotavator(Derby) on January 07, 2012, 16:10:12
Ours have been sown in them. Do the same every year.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: saddad on January 07, 2012, 16:57:31
I've sown mine in cells (before Christmas) and now they have two true leaves they will be going out soon...  :)
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: caroline7758 on January 07, 2012, 17:11:25
Thanks- guess what I'm doing tomorrow!
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Monkey Brains on January 07, 2012, 22:00:54
I sow mine in deep rolled-up newspaper pots, to give the roots space, and plant them out when they're about 6 inches tall.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Digeroo on January 07, 2012, 22:18:49
I use 500ml yoghurt pots four in each I put the bean down the side of the plastic or chit in kitchen roll and then straight outside under bottle cloches.




Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 08, 2012, 15:31:10
Mine go in pots about the end of next month or the beginning of March, then I plant them out at about three inches.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Kea on January 10, 2012, 18:38:42
I've become a fan of root trainers. In my house my toilet roll collection kept disappearing into the recycling while I wasn't looking >:(
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Alex133 on January 11, 2012, 07:25:35
I use loo rolls for other beans/sweet peas but have found growth poor unless peeled off before planting except in very wet seasons. (I sow broadbeans outside in November covered with fleece - even last year when temps down to -8 grew brilliantly - Aquadulce)
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Dandytown on January 13, 2012, 12:12:59
I might use yog pots too as if I cut the bottom out and keep the lid I can easily slide the plants out when I transplant.

Some plants I was given last year came in clear plastic cups and it was good to see the roots.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: carbonel11 on January 14, 2012, 18:39:52
I have had mixed results with the toilet roll method. The plants seemed to sit for a while after planting out and never seemed quite as vigorous as their counterparts planted straight into the ground. I did harden them off.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: AlanO on January 15, 2012, 08:43:29
For a novice could someone explain the advantages/disadvantages of loo roll tubes please.  I appreciate they are free but so are yogurt pots etc.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Duke Ellington on January 15, 2012, 09:19:31

You can plant the whole tube..... ;D
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: AlanO on January 15, 2012, 09:25:18
Ah got it!  Presumably this dosn't disturb the roots as much and the paper/card eventually rots away.  And its quicker.  Don't worry to reply if I've got it right.  Cheers Duke.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Digeroo on January 15, 2012, 09:56:15
Welcome to A4A AlanO.  They take up less space than yogurt pots so less space on crowded window sills.  I tend to use them for Dahlia seeds. 

For me the best yoghurt pots are slightly conical so easy to get the plants out by gently squeezing all round first.  I avoid straight sided ones.  Unfortunately they changed the format of my husband favourite tesco yoghurt.

It does not take long for the roots to come through the loo roll tubes. 
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: caroline7758 on January 15, 2012, 10:03:13
I think the main think with planting out toilet rolls is to soak the whole thing thoroughly before putting them into the ground so that the cardboardrots more quickly and doesn't create a barrier. I usually also tear off the top half inch or make sure it's below the surface.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: earlybirds on January 15, 2012, 10:16:10
have tree plantings early one are a foot tall down to two inch , thats in west sussex, mal.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Duke Ellington on January 16, 2012, 13:20:18
As Caroline said

Remember to bury all the loo roll or it will act as a kind of *drying wick* and this will slow down the growth of your plants. I also make sure that I water well when using toilet roll tubes ....dont let the compost dry out.  This will hinder the rotting of the toilet roll tube.

Duke
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Russell on January 17, 2012, 21:37:32
The nearest I get to indoor planting of broad beans is four or five days in the bean sprouter in February before dibbing in (carefully) to the bed. There is very little work and the crop is at most a fortnight behind someone who has done all the rootrainers/loo rolls/pots in greenhouse work.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: gwynnethmary on January 18, 2012, 00:51:08
I just plant in situ and they come up!
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: ballpointbob on January 22, 2012, 08:11:37
This may sound like a silly question but here goes: Last October I sowed some Aquadulce broad beans which are now about 6" tall. My question is - How tall are they going to get, as I may need to raise the netting around them?
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: grawrc on January 22, 2012, 08:34:12
They're not specially tall. I would say normally between 2 and 3 feet.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Digeroo on January 22, 2012, 08:42:40
They can be over a metre ( a yard in old money) high.  May be a little more if they like your soil etc.  Though it is usual to pick out the growing tip (tasty lightly steamed or stir fried) to deter the black fly. 

Masterpiece Green Longpod for me are normally substantially taller.  
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: ballpointbob on January 22, 2012, 15:55:10
Thanks very much both.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: davejg on January 22, 2012, 18:21:33
mine are going in plastic cus tomorrow night, would have bean today but i'm going to try that booster enzyme this year.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: willsy on January 22, 2012, 19:21:22
Russell what kind of bean sprouter do you have? I just sprout mine in a tray on kitchen paper remembering to keep paper damp not wet and covered with anyother piece of paper on top. Then when they have sprouted I plant them out. do the same with my peas.Does anyone else do this?
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on January 22, 2012, 19:25:30
I've never bothered with broadies, but then I usually put them in pots in February, and they have loads of time before they decide to get their heads up. I soak big runner beans, as I find it significantly improves germination. I leave them in water overnight, and that's enough to get them started.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: compothefirst on January 22, 2012, 19:51:09
I sowed mine today - straight into the ground.  They're tough old things, but I have netted them and used organic slug pellets.  Did the same thing last year and had a good crop.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Russell on January 26, 2012, 22:06:56
Willsy my bean sprouter I stole off my daughter so I don't know what it is called but it comprises three shallow clear plastic perforated trays and a base. I stand it on the kitchen window sill when in use so I can easily keep an eye on it, sometimes things happen quite quickly like if the sun shines.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: Digeroo on January 26, 2012, 22:19:57
Willsy I am with you with the kitchen roll.  I put a few drops of aloe vera in the water to prevent mould.   I put some straight into compost also on the windowsill, but germination very poor in comparision. 
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: sticks on January 27, 2012, 09:13:46
I sowed my Broad Beans a couple of weeks ago in newspaper pots and have had them in my (cold) porch. They've all germinated and the majority are 4-6" tall with 4+ leaves on them.

I was planning on planting them out on the plot this weekend under bottle cloches but with the cold snap forecast for next week would I be better off waiting a while or will they be OK?
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: goodlife on January 27, 2012, 09:46:33
I would wait and see what weather will throw at us this weekend. Even if they've been in cold porch, freezing weather and blanket of snow might be a bit of shock for the system.
Have you got a coldframe...or could you russle up something temporarely for them?..it don't have to be anything fancy..just a storage box and sheet of glass over would do nicely. Keep them in that for couple of weeks or so and then plant them. They will harden off bit more and being in that bit of more colder place..growth will slow down and you might not be in no hurry to put them into ground if the weather should turn properly wintery.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: sticks on January 27, 2012, 09:49:16
My next door neighbour has an unheated greenhouse with plenty of room to spare and I'm sure he'll be more than happy to keep them in there for a few weeks for me.
Title: Re: Starting broad beans
Post by: green lily on January 27, 2012, 20:40:54
Mine were sown in November and are nice and sturdy. They've been outside day and night for quite a while but I still whipped them into the poly this evening because of the sleet.Hopefully they'll go out under enviromesh when its comfortable for me to get them sorted...and the sun is out ;D.
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