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Allotment Stuff => The Basics => Topic started by: Hector on October 16, 2011, 09:26:42
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I tarted planting my garlic a couple of weeks ago. Read online to plant 2-3 inches...so planted one batch at 3 inches. Then read plant at 1-2 inches...so planted remainder at 1-2inches.
The shallower ones are up and running. No sign of the deeper ones....will they eventually emerge????
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my niece planted ours with a bulb planter one year, they still came up, some were a bit damp but we ate them ;D
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I would think so as it is not that deep :)
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My worry wouldn't be the depth, but rather the fact that some of them are up already (due to the mini-heatwave?). Wonder if they will get a shock when it turns cold?
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I thought Garlic needed the cold to get them growing..........planted mine before that bout of warm weather.......so many books etc give you different times to plant gave up and put them in anyway LOL
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Just planted the last of my garlic and they don't have any trouble growing and they are planted about 10 to 20 mil deep, :)
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They need the cold to split the bulb into separate cloves, not to start growing. They will, however, tolerate cold when they are growing.
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Thanks folks...my new obsession when drinking my morning cuppa, is to rush out and peer at the soil to see if they have made an appearance!
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They need the cold to split the bulb into separate cloves, not to start growing. They will, however, tolerate cold when they are growing.
You beat me to it! ;D
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Went to the lottie this afternoon,my galic is coming up or it could be grass ;D
Does it look like two little thin blades of grass coming through?
Have not grown any for years.
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I've grown garlic on and off for a few years with mixed results.
Then I realised a couple of years ago they like to be planted deeper than onion sets (I can hear you laughing from here)anyway I now plant deep and have had some splendid crops,apart from the ones that rotted last year,I don't think that was planting depth as several folk had the same trouble.
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Mine looks the same Betula :)
Macmac, you have made my day. :)
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I tried a little experiment a few years ago planting at different depths (including as deep as 3"). It didn't seem to make any difference as far as I could see.
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I dib a hole and drop it in. Utterly unscientific, but they all seem quite happy.
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I dib a hole and drop it in. Utterly unscientific, but they all seem quite happy.
On a full moon of course!
Some people do I'm told. Personally I prefer a warm dry day. ;)
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never grown Autumn planted gartic before always planted spring but since reading up on here i got some to plant now but as the soil ist ready yet needs digging planning to plant in pots do i leave the pots out doors or place them in my greenhouse and where should they go on a 4 bed rotation scheme in this years onion bed which means the spud bed next year or in this years brassica the onion bed next year this is what confuses me about winter plantings :-[
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I think you put them into next years allium patch, but then do not re-use that area for alliums. so you do need to have enough area available- can use for some other quick crop like lettuce so all not lost.
I grow overwintering alliums in tubs or pots because of the white rot on the plot, ( I get loads of spent compost from bulbs and alpines to use)
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general advice these days seems to be to plant the seed cloves like a spring bulb, at around twice its own depth. I used to plant deeper than this and they still came up, albeit slowly. Nowadays (when i get to plant them directly in the ground) i put them in roughly twice the depth of the clove, which is about what i would also do when planting in pots or modules.
Hope this helps.
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Oh, I planted mine last week but only put them just below the surface - hmmm is that why I didn't have much success last year?
TEYman
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Well..I've always planted mine just bellow the soil level..barely covering the cloves and never had problems with it.
Suppose it all comes down to quality of your soil..if the soil is able hold on to moisture and nutrients on surface level, it will yield as well as bit deeper down where there is better moisture... ;)
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Wish I had read this before going down to the allotment. Just planted mine just below surface. Oh well could dig the up tomorrow and replant ;D ;D
x Chas
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On our site we have a number of Italians. Just out of curiosity I checked before posting as i noticed it last year. One of them plants his garlic (though it is elephant garlic he plants) on top of the soil but the next one along also italian has planted on top of the soil then made a little mound over each row.
The birds have already pulled some of mine out again :( have to keep putting them back but the problem is seeing where it's come from.
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On our site we have a number of Italians. Just out of curiosity I checked before posting as i noticed it last year. One of them plants his garlic (though it is elephant garlic he plants) on top of the soil but the next one along also italian has planted on top of the soil then made a little mound over each row.
The birds have already pulled some of mine out again :( have to keep putting them back but the problem is seeing where it's come from.
Elephant garlic isn't a true garlic - it's from the lily family as far as I know.
I've grown it for about the last five years. I plant it around 4 to 5 inches down and don't expect to see it again until very early spring. By early summer it develops (wish I could remember what they're called) flower stalks that should be broken off.
By the end of June I lift them for drying to reduce the chance of rot setting in if it's a wet season.
Personally I'm not that keen on the things - garlic-like taste and OK in with the roast but I'd sooner have the real thing. ;)
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I thought it was a leek. It can't be a lily as it has normal onion-family type flowers.
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Elephant garlic isn't a true garlic - it's from the lily family as far as I know.Sorry..it belongs to Allium family..closest to leek.. ;)
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Elephant garlic isn't a true garlic - it's from the lily family as far as I know.Sorry..it belongs to Allium family..closest to leek.. ;)
Der....... sorry. :-[
I knew it was something with loads of leaves! ;D
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Just to add to what i previously said, i suppose what soil you have and where/how you grow your veg. If you have light soil or grow in well drained raised beds then deeper would be better. if on the other hand you have heavy soil and /or grow 'on the flat' than slightly shallower is probably better. They need good drainage as i am sure you know.
I have even heard of them grown planted into ridges across the bed. I suppose this is a way to improve drainage on heavier soils without having to have raised beds.
Hope this helps (sorry if it muddies the waters for you!)
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Just have to boast that my garlic, which I plant quite deeply, is well up now! When it is all up I will be able to see where I planted the elephant garlic, which stays invisible until the spring, and I have forgotten where I put it.
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The first Garlic to show its head that I planted three weeks ago is the Spanish variety I put in, whilst the other varieties are still not showing, :)
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Elephant garlic isn't a true garlic - it's from the lily family as far as I know.Sorry..it belongs to Allium family..closest to leek.. ;)
Der....... sorry. :-[
I knew it was something with loads of leaves! ;D
Yep! It's definitely a plant!!!!!
Garlic, onions, leeks etc are all Alliums...elephant is more closely related to leeks than garlic.
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Elephant garlic isn't a true garlic - it's from the lily family as far as I know.Sorry..it belongs to Allium family..closest to leek.. ;)
Der....... sorry. :-[
I knew it was something with loads of leaves! ;D
Yep! It's definitely a plant!!!!!
Garlic, onions, leeks etc are all Alliums...elephant is more closely related to leeks than garlic.
Yep... I did know that but at the time my brain cells were relaxing just a little too much. ;) ;D
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Bought several bulbs of locally grown Spanish Garlic in a local veg shop up in the old town in Benidorm last week and it will be going in around March time, just hope it keeps and doe's not decide to start sprouting, :)
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My elephant garlic is still sat sitting in the allotment shed waiting patiently for someone to either plant it or eat it. Normally it would have been planted in October!!
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Mine hasn't been planted either, but it's pretty tolerant. It'll be going in shortly.
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Mine hasn't been planted either, but it's pretty tolerant. It'll be going in shortly.
So will mine if I get a half-day off to escape to the plot. ;)