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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: plainleaf on July 24, 2011, 02:45:00

Title: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 24, 2011, 02:45:00
success i have found one to take a cutting from.
one more plant for the white edible collection.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: goodlife on July 24, 2011, 06:50:40
Any chance of an photo when it is in fruit?
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Digeroo on July 24, 2011, 09:24:13
Do the white fruiting types of berries have as much antioxydants etc.  What is the advantage of white.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: goodlife on July 24, 2011, 15:41:33
I should imagine its only novelty value..it is going to "white edible collection".. ???
What else have you got in that collection?
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: djbrenton on July 24, 2011, 23:08:14
the advantage white is it can be used with creams and yogurts without the aide bleaching agents

I'm struggling to understand what you're saying there. I've never even thought of using bleaching agents to remove the colour of fruit.

you evidently have poor imagination
most fruit and veg you can think of.
veg :tomato, cucumber, bell pepper, watermelon, string bean, radish ,beet,ect.
fruit strawberry, raspberry,cherry, plum , peach and several more i can not mention due to processional agreements.

Again this doesn't make sense. Are you using google translate or something? What is a processional agreement and why would it prevent you from mentioning veg?
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 24, 2011, 23:27:21
that should be professional agreement. in other words. It is nondisclosure  agreement.
I cannot list several types of white veg do to fact I have done work for a seed company that hopes to release them in the future.

bleaching agent is chemical or extract that hides or neutralizes the color of another ingredient, it is the opposite of a colorant or dye you surely have heard of beet root extract the make desserts or sweets red.  

 
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 25, 2011, 08:39:30
i will only say i have acquired white black berries plants that match description of variety created by Luther Burbank

my white edible collection is an on going project which I got start due to friend having issues with red tomato products but not raw red tomatoes. same issue did not happen with yellows tomato products using the exact same recipes.  next got some white water melon seeds in trade few years back.. 


Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Jeannine on July 25, 2011, 18:00:28
Have some of the posts been removed here, none of the comments seem to flow together so I cant follow it.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 25, 2011, 18:15:22
Jeannine yes
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: ceres on July 25, 2011, 18:31:13
Unfortunately moderators don't have the ability to edit posts so those containing gratuitous personal comments and insults have to be removed in their entirety and that spoils the thread for everyone else.

I'd hoped this silly stuff was long gone but it seems old habits are creeping back  :(  This started out as an interesting thread so let's keep it that way please.  Any he said, she said, post hoc justification posts will also be removed.  We're not going back there.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: ceres on July 25, 2011, 19:01:08
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Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Jeannine on July 26, 2011, 03:51:40
Thank you for the response. I understand now.

Plainleaf I am very interested in the white stuff, could we perhaps start  the thread again. I would  really like to hear about it.

thank you

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 26, 2011, 09:43:42
Jeannine as said my earlier post I have acquired seeds and plants for veg and fruit that are not normal white some are not really true white but they could be with a bit breeding  to bad the master of plant breeding passed many years ago.
Luther Burbank created the white black berry and many more great veg and fruit.

as for the white collection there are few  I can't talk about,
but I can say all of them are edible.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Paulines7 on July 26, 2011, 10:26:11
http://www.bulbnrose.org/Heredity/Burbank/WhiteBlackberry/WhiteBlackberry.html
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Jeannine on July 26, 2011, 18:00:39
That is very interesting, a great article,,thank you

So Plainleaf, are you going to recreate what he did or just grow it as it is.

May I ask why you can't talk about the white collection, or at least tell me what is in it.

XX Jeannine
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 26, 2011, 21:54:29
Jeannine when get chance i will list some of varieties in the collection but several I can not
talk about do to the fact I got them under strict agreement that I do not reveal any details  about them.  basic those who gave me the plants and seeds do not want then out yet.

sorta like the origin of osu blue. when it was still in beta.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Jeannine on July 27, 2011, 05:08:54
Ok now I get it, no problem, it was the explanation I needed. I understand the reason and can appreciate it.

It does sound very exciting .

Do you have any idea when you will be released from the contract.. months , years?

I shall look forward to those you can share with us.

XX Jeannine

Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 28, 2011, 21:05:50
the idea of white collection is to have white vegetable where the veg are not normally white. So cauliflower is not part of collection since it is normally white.
 here are few in the collection
    vegetable:
bell pepper
Bianca Hybrid

carrot
Lunar White
Snow White Carrot
White Belgian

cucumber
Dragon's Egg Cucumber
Boothby's Blonde Cucumber
White Wonder

radish
Formosa Giant Luo Buo


tomatoes:
White Tomesol
White Queen
Great White Tomato
Cream Sausage Tomato
Italian Ice Hybrid

watermelon
Cream of Saskatchewan
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Digeroo on July 28, 2011, 21:28:38
What about courgette Long White, though for white read light green.

Is your radish a mooli.  There is also a variety of globe radish called white turnip.  Comes in packets of mixed colour.

What about white aubergine (egg plant)

 


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Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 29, 2011, 02:33:30
the idea of white collection is to have white vegetable where the veg are not normally white.
there are several eggplants in collection just did not include all of the varieties in the collection.

"What about courgette Long White, though for white read light green."
lite green does not count.  to be in the collection it has to be very white.

mooli are in the collection but not really that interesting since they all to common.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Jeannine on July 29, 2011, 04:59:12
 What about a white bean from a traditional black seeded variety like Cherokee Trail of Tears..white seeds, or white beets  Blankoma , radishes Ping Pong or White Icicle, carrot White Satin,or varieties  of white asparagus or corn,or cucumber Minature White or Salt and Pepper,eggplant Tango or Clara and ,melon Honey Pearl ..just to name a few that I have.

Great White tomato is yellow by the way .

 I have quite a few white tomatoes not on your list.

XX Jeannine
                                                                                 
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: Robert_Brenchley on July 29, 2011, 18:24:06
Boothby's Blond isn't exactly white, so your courgettes would be fine. How far you were going to stray from dead white would be up to you.
Title: Re: white black berry
Post by: plainleaf on July 30, 2011, 21:01:02
Boothby's Blond is much closer to white then the zucchini you posted.
Robert_Brenchley
(http://www.seedsavers.org/Sources/GetImage.axd?own=SS&imageid=6501)

I do have patty pan squash in collection which is a true white squash.



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