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Allotment Stuff => Locations and Sites => Topic started by: rockgirl2000 on June 21, 2011, 16:08:02
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At our site, Full plots are 10m x 20 and my sad little half plot is only 5m x 10m.
Could we qualify for the smallest plots on offer in the UK??? Would be
interested to know if there were any smaller ones!
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That's just under 1/4 of a "standard" 10 pole plot... I bet there are 1/6th and 1/8th "starter" plots out there... :-X
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ha ha mine being 25 mtr x 8mts is classed as quarter plots is that right so i have a half plot altogether
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Thats very small Rockgirl, especially if you want even a compost bin or a small greenhouse.
What are you growing? and will you get a chance for a bit more land on the site in the future?
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ha ha mine being 25 mtr x 8mts is classed as quarter plots is that right so i have a half plot altogether
8x25 = 200 sqM... a full plot is @225SqM... 300 sqYards... so you have a good sized "half"plot there Brown Thumb... ;D
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rockgirl2000,
50sq metres ... that's 2 poles in old money. We have one plot of this size on our site.
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While the experts are at it, ours is 18'x56'. What does that equate to please ;D?
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While the experts are at it, ours is 18'x56'. What does that equate to please ;D?
3.7 poles, or abound 1/3 of a standard plot.
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Thanks Chrispy. Not bad for under £8 a year inc water then ;D.
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Grannyjanny, can you empty some of your inbox, I need to PM you!!
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I'm growing a small quantity of as many different things as possible - mainly to keep it interesting! I could just grow spuds+onions and I would be bored out of my tiny mind! It is surprising how much you can cram in though. There is no option to get a 'full size' plot.
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I've got a 10mx5m £40 per year and a ten year wait for it
it stuffed full can't get any more in
I could do with a bigger plot
but they keep splitting the bigger ones down to make smaller plots
to reduce the waiting lists >:(
I'm now growing stuff on the shed roof ..
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I'm now growing stuff on the shed roof ..
Don't try this on the greenhouse ;D
Thats titchy, so easy to manage but so small. At this time of year I almost wish I could get another one then I get sensible. Job, scouts, garden, show and restore cars and 2 allotments.... ::) would quit job but I got to pay for it all.
A lot of plots have been split here as well but still people struggle to cope :(
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30 ft x 60 ft classed as a full plot £40 per year including water and wood chips
15 ft x 60 ft classed as a half plot £25 " " " " " " "
Would someone be kind enough to tell me what that equates to in polls, having been to other sites I've never been convinced that we're actual getting what we're paying for. As plots on other sites have always appeared larger in comparison. Thanks in advance ???
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By my calculations Taurus 1800 sq ft equals to 6.61 poles. so you have about 2/3 of a standard allotment size. So for a standard 10 poles you would be paying £60.50. So you are paying £6.05 a pole, for local authority site on the high side. But the huge security fences on the Swindon sites must have been very expensive.
This is somewhat cheaper than Greenthing who would be paying £169.
I hope someone will just check my figures.
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we have two large plots the church owns the land, we pay24 includes water rates,i think we are very lucky,we can hardly believe some pepole pay a lot more i think there should be one price across the board for an allotment.
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Could anyone tell us what the pole to sq mtr/ sq ft ratio is?
Perhaps someone has and I missed it?
My plot is 10 m X 30 m, which is 300 sq mtrs costing me 19 quid a year - without a standpipe. Compared to some of you, i feel pretty lucky!
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For me there is a better way. I always measure my vegetable beds according to the paper sizes recognised at the time I was traing as an offset printer in the 60s. Then I multiply or divide the costs of a harvest in £sd because I think that this is the better way than doing everything in decimals. As an example; my onions in one bed cover a space of 22 quarto sheets and between the rows I have carrots which cover a length of ten foolscap sheets; all I have to do is to divide the basic sizes into square inches and convert them into pence or shillings (depending upon which is easier) - although this isn't so easy with double-elephant sizes as these need to be converted into square feet and then mulitplied by guineas. As a result last year I could work out that the three onion beds that I had harvested resulted in a production cost of tuppence-halfpenny per onion while each carrot cost only one penny and three farthings. Naturally I was chuffed at this result - there are not many people who can produce 240 onions at a total price of £2.10.00.
However not being in the UK I have to convert my findings into m2, Kilos and Francs - to this end I have bought a software which is simple to use and allows me to work out exactly how much turnover I have from my 2.5 Aren.
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Wow! That sounds complicated, Busby????
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25 m2 == 1 pole as near as makes no odds.
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If you google sq meters to poles and sq feet to poles there are conversion website which do the maths for you.
You kind of lost me there Busby. Reminds me of a poem by AA Milne that I liked as a child
Eight eights are sixty four
Multiply by seven.
If it’s more
carry four
and take away eleven.
Nine nines are eighty one
Multiply by three
When it’s done
carry one
and then it’s time for tea.
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By my calculations Taurus 1800 sq ft equals to 6.61 poles. so you have about 2/3 of a standard allotment size. So for a standard 10 poles you would be paying £60.50. So you are paying £6.05 a pole, for local authority site on the high side. But the huge security fences on the Swindon sites must have been very expensive.
This is somewhat cheaper than Greenthing who would be paying £169.
I hope someone will just check my figures.
Spot-on for Taurus Digeroo, but Greenthing pays £20/pole.
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I was told 10 poles/rods was considered the right size for a family of four to provide for themselves when allotments were first set up.
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I was told 10 poles/rods was considered the right size for a family of four to provide for themselves when allotments were first set up.
I was told 90'x30', is that the same size?
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I think it is....but may be wrong.
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I was told 90'x30', is that the same size?
Yes, 90' x 30' is more or less 10 poles.
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A lot of our Council and society run plots are being turned into half plots and given to newbies like - about 5 x 22 mt to make enough for all to get without waiting tooo long.. ..
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Ours are about 100m x 10m. I have a half one so around 50m x 10m. No idea how many poles that is. Someone did work it out for me but I've forgotten. Ours seem to be exceptionally large though.
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At our site, Full plots are 10m x 20 and my sad little half plot is only 5m x 10m.
We have one 1/2 plot that is the same size. My 2 plots are slightly different sizes
plot 1: 40x70ft
plot 2: 35x110ft
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cobnut
50m x 10m= 500 square meters =19.77 square pole
ktlawson
plot 1:
40ft x 70 ft =2800 square ft =10.28 square pole
plot 2 :
35ft x 110ft= 3850 square ft =14.14 square pole
links to measurement conversion calculator
http://www.unitconversion.org/unit_converter/area.html
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What a brilliant poem, Digeroo. I haven't come across it before.
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Wow. What an interesting thread!
Our (old-system) standard plots were 25m x 9m @ £66 p.a.
Halfs (which are Council has as of last year decided is new standard-sized plot for all newbies - oldies can keep whatever they already have) is 25m x 4.5 m, at £33 p.a.
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ours is exactly 16ft X 80ft and costing us £20 a year.
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The converter's useful, Plainleaf.
Bit off course but does anyone find it irritating having to jump from meters to feet/feet to meters all the time - I take both measurements when I go out to buy things now as otherwise I've always got the wrong one and my mental arithmetic isn't that great!
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I am getting a little confused as to what people see as a pole?
I believe that a pole equals 5.03mtrs in imperial measurements, this is a link that could possibly simplify imperial measurements, ( http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/units/length.htm )
It also claims that a standard allotment plot is 10 poles ? don't think my plot is quite that big, will have to take a measure tape with me and check it out....... ;)
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Poles, rods and perches are all the same - didn't know that before A4A. We have rods in this neck of the woods and charges are per rod. I understand 10 is considered a full size plot but I guess most probably vary especially on old sites - we've got a mixture from about 5 to 11.
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A rod, pole, perch, and lug are all 25m2 area as near as makes no difference. Somewhat confusingly they're all used as both a linear and an area measurement, 16.5 feet long, or and area 16.5ft x 16.5ft, depending on the context (though historically they've all varied in size before anyone thought it important to standardize these things).
Careful not to confuse the rod with the rood - a rood is 1/4 of an acre, and there are 40 rods to the rood, and just to be helpful rood was sometimes spelt rod.