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Produce => Edible Plants => Topic started by: Robert_Brenchley on May 10, 2011, 08:59:34
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What's the best time to take them?
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Never heard of anyone propagating brassicas from cuttings!
What ones do you want to multiply?
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Daubenton's Kale; it rarely produces seed, and cuttings are the normal method. I imagine the same method would work for other brassicas.
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I would imagine it's best to use soft sideshoots, dipped in rooting powder.
Let me know how you get on.
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Someone just posted on another site that they took cuttings in September and kept them indoors as a precaution against losing their plants. Most of them rooted, apart from the variegated Daubenton's, which is the one I have.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIyfVmX3VLo&feature=related this is what i found on Youtube. I've seen a few of his videos and find the guy really interesting. ;) ;)
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Robert..I took some more cuttings from my Daubenton and all of them rooted and this second lot only took a week to root..so looks like the best time is now.. ;) ;D
I just had a look that clip...boy! He does like his collard..I though I was a bit 'mad hatter' with my kales but he takes it to totally different level.. :o ;D
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I would like more information on this.
Some one on here told me to cut my leeks down low and let them reproduce earlier this year so we tried it and the bits left in the ground just rotted.
I do know that the side shoots from tomatoes grow into plants (quickest way to get new tomato plants) and that when you cut off a head of cabbage or lettuce, a small one often follows . Fine for allotment holders who only want a small amount. Not commercially viable of course.
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If you let a leek grow and flower (even better if you stop it flowering) then at some point it will die down and there will be more than one white leek bulb in the soil when you dig it up. They can be eaten as bulbs (if you run out of fresh leek) or planted out to make more leeks next year (though best used quickly as the flowering may be oddly timed).
Don't cut the top off though - that just removes most of the plant's ability to make a bulb.
Cheers.
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Thanks for the leeks tip. 'V'
I think I will just grow new ones.
Mind you I did have a fellow plot holder tell me that his leeks were too thin so he was going to leave them in for another year to see if they would thicken up.
I explained the way leeks usually grow to him which seemed to upset him.
May be the cut down method would have worked from what you say??
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Robert..that clip you sent of Daubenton kale some time ago here..well the head gardener says that the way she takes a cutting it takes 2-3 months to root.
Well..I had couple of those cuttings but, I planted mine in deep black rose pots, used soil based compost and grit, kept them in GH and 3 weeks later they've rooted! ;D I'm truly surprised how easy they are after all..
Now why on earth is perennial kale crops fallen out of 'fashion'?
My variegated 'mother plants' have grown so quickly in few weeks that I could find more cutting material already..but I better let them grow so I can have something to taste too..not just chopping it up all the time.. ::) ;D I'm just waiting the Taunton Dean Cottages Kale to grow so I can take cuttings off from those too..
Copy of "that" clip again..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30-3BWEGAw&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c30-3BWEGAw&feature=player_embedded)
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My two different sorts of daubenton kale that are grown from cuttings..
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From what little I've been able to discover - only a suggestion, no hard evidence - it may have been the influence of Victorian commercial gardening that started the decline of perennial kales. Ragged Jack may have been perrennial once, but if so it was reselected for biennial plants. You can imagine that seed merchants would have preferred these. It probably hung on in cottage gardens, and you never know, there may be plants yet surviving. Woburn Kale seems to have disappeared, but who knows?
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Hmm....I think lot of perennial veg have got lost long time ago...one can only life in hope that something may turn up..
I've got lot of red russian on flower at the moment...and although they are not perennial variety anymore...one time apparantely there was variety with same name that was. Last lot of seed that I bought, there popped up few different sort of red russian plants...colouring identical but the leaf shape was diffent in some..so now I'm letting them all flower...and I shall collect seeds and see what turns up...and I shall cut the flower stems down and she which sort may show potential for longer life span... ;)..and maybe try vegetative propagation from those that survive flowering.
All just little fun...but nature shows up some suprising things now and then..who knows perharps with some selective 'breeding' I'll come up with something more permanent. Now that would be nice.. ;D
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I believe some varieties will sprout again from the base after flowering. I'm looking forward to seeing what 'Spis Bladene' does.
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Just after buying a few rooted plants of Daubentons Kale from France - I happened upon some unrooted cuttings of Taunton Deane at a plant fair while travelling in Somerset.
I got the cutting in mid April and it had a few days in the car with only wet kitchen roll in a plastic bag to keep it fresh. I cut the end off and plonked it straight in the ground and although I cannot prove that it has rooted - only one of the outer leaves has died and it's starting to get new growth at the tip so I reckon it's going to be successful. The lady who sold it to me said that she took some cuttings in march and put them in the ground then a couple of weeks later decided that it would be better to put them in pots as she wanted to distribute the new cuttings - she tried to pull them up but couldn't as the roots were already so extensive. I get the impression that Taunton Deane is pretty vigorous and robust!
Cheers
Squeezy
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Why bother. seed is cheap ,plants are strong, Um is this a wind up ???
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I'm not winding anyone up - promise ;D
Seriously - there are great benefits to growing true perennial plants even if it comes at the cost of having to do it from cuttings. Firstly - they grow absolutely massive over a couple of years and they last for ages (6-8 years I've heard). Several plants can keep you in greens year-round and they develop a very extensive root network which makes the plants even stronger than annuals. Not going to seed means that they don't flower and bolt the same way annuals do.
If you dedicate a bed to perennial kale of one sort or another then it will just keep going and you can treat it the same way as you would rhubarb, asparagus or even an apple tree. If it's been going for lots of years or shows signs of not producing enough for you you simply cut a branch off and stick it in the ground where you want a new plant.
Finally - having tasted both types I'm growing I can confirm that the smaller leaves are much milder than all of the other kale types I've grown in the past meaning you can even use them as a salad green.
Win win I'd say.
Cheers
Squeezy
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If you can find seeds of either Daubenton's or Taunton Deane let us know where!
Squeezyjohn, if you ever have spare cuttings from the Taunton Deane I'd like to hear about it. Meanwhile, let us know how it differs from Daubenton's.
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Robert, Taunton Deane Cottages Kale is Daubenton kale..it is the green leaved variety that was talked in GW program..filmed in Knightshayes Court.
Picture of it is above with variageted form..
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I'm sure the two are closely related, goodlife, but the Daubentons I bought online from www.aromatiques.fr (http://www.aromatiques.fr/html/catalogue/plante-aromatique-115.html) are green for the main part and have slightly frilly leaves. The Taunton Deane cutting bought from the plant fair in Somerset is deep green/purple and has purple stems and no sign of frills on the leaves. I would say they look like quite distinct varieties.
Robert - I don't think you can get seeds for Taunton Deane - the woman I bought it from says it doesn't ever flower. I've heard of Daubentons going to seed occasionally, but I've never seen seeds advertised.
I'm fairly new to this game and could be talking out of my hat of course! Robert - my intention is that once the Taunton Deane is established enough to take cuttings from then I'll do that for as many people as I can as well as planting some spares myself. It's pretty small at the moment though but seems to have established itself quite well. I'll try and remember next year to look back over this thread.
All the best.
Squeezy
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Squeezy..the variegated one on photo that I posted..I bought it from France too.. ::)..and goes under same name as yours..I think they it is just 'general' name rather than variety name.
The Taunton Deane that I've got (green one on photo) I got posted from Knighthayes Court..the head gardener sent note to go with it..Taunton Dean Cottages Kale as variety name and general name Daubenton kale.
So looks like there is different sorts going around....my Taunton is not big enough yet for cuttings neither...but once grown..would nice to do bit of variety swaps.. ;)..and compare the tastes..
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http://www.plantes-et-jardins.com/catalogue/catalogue4.asp?id_variations=1615 (http://www.plantes-et-jardins.com/catalogue/catalogue4.asp?id_variations=1615)
That's the link where I got mine from...In photo it is green variety, it was big, but positive suprise when I received variegated version of the Daubenton..so looks like the French are not so bothered what they call theirs..its all just same.. ::)
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You have all made me very jealious and now confused.
Having accepted I can't grown this as I can't get plants here and no seeds, someone comes online and says it is a wind up, is he suggesting seeds are available if so can someone please tell me where.
Other than that I need a brave soul to offer to send me some cuttings,. LOL
I get cross when these " one liner posters" throw out a statement with no other info.
So have I read this all wrong, are seeds available ?
Very confused
XX Jeannine
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Someone did get seed off Daubenton's last year, but it's unusual. It's certainly not available under normal circumstances, though if mine ever flowers, I'lll try.
I'm beginning to wonder whether 'Daubenton's' is a generic name for these kales. So far we seem to have found three varieties; green, variegated and Taunton Deane.
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I think they it is just 'general' name rather than variety name.I would not be suprised if the 'lost' kale Woburn would be around if there is no variety names in use and they've been long forgotten. It is so much easier to just talk about Daubenton as a 'perennial type kale' rather than always mentioning their variety name....quite possible explanation don't you think?
Jeannine....once I've got some more mature growth on we could try a little trip for few cuttings... ;) ;)
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It seems like that's possibly true goodlife and Robert. I might confuse the issue by calling my particular strain Kevin ;D
Jeannine, don't be too disheartened - these plants have essentially been saved from extinction by a few careful gardeners and as a result there are only a precious few around at the moment. I'm sure with people like us willing to share cuttings, the re-population of these varieties around the world will come soon to gardens and allotments. I'm quite willing to bet a cutting would survive air travel if wrapped up carefully as my cutting was abused, left in a hot car for 4 days and still took root very easily.
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I bet plants have been taken across the Atlantic before. You never know, there might be more strains waiting to be discovered in Canada or the US.
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Is Sqeezyboy calling me a cabbage. :'( :D
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Yes he is...but in a good way...sort of cabbage that doesn't go to seed.. ;) ;D
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I've just come across the name for the variegated form of Daubenton..
Brassica oleracea var. ramosa 'Daubenton Panache'
So now we've got two names for the 3 different sorts of perennial kales.
I'll be on hunt for more possible varieties/names.
Oh..and..some of my ordinary kales have started to re-sprout new growth from old tattered 'trunks' although they've produced seeds as well.. :o
So I took few cutting for sake of experiment..we'll see if they do root and want to flower straight away or if I'm lucky they wait till next year.. ;D
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I wonder if Delaway cabbage falls in here somewhere as I am told it is really a perennial kale? It does put out seeds though.
XX Jeannine
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I think there's a spectrum of perennial brassicas. At one end we have things like 9-star perennial, which is probably only perennial because we cut all the flower buds off and eat them. Then there are true perennials which flower and sprout again, and finally there's Daubenton's, which doesn't normally produce seed. We need to do a lot more observation; we may be dealing with plants which were originally perennial, but were bred for biennialism.
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Come to think of it, most of the brassicas we grow either wouldn't work as perennials - cabbages and caulis, where we want a big head - or take up a lot of space for one crop a year - broccoli and sprouts - so we wouldn't want to keep them going. Cut and come again crops are a bit different, so it might work to manage them as perennials if that's what they want to do, cut them back, and let them resprout.
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Delaway cabbage is suppose to be 'cut and come again'..I haven't grown it myself..but I would be nice to know if the cutting only delay the end of the life span or if its truly perennial.
I don't seem to find much about it in net. Nobody haven't written about Delaway's growing habbit in detail.
Jeannine..you could fill the knowlege gap and let us know how perennial it is.
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Well I have planted it. but won't know for a while.
XX Jeannine
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Try it and see. Ragged Jack seems to have been selected for biennialism in the 19th Century; it may be a question of reselecting back in the opposite direction.
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This is fascinating - mysterious kales lost in the mists of time...
I think perennial leaves are a great idea - I'd never swap sowing seeds, transplanting seedlings, clearing new beds etc if it was possible to just keep a mature plant in one place.
Someone gave me a cutting of a perennial cabbage, when I was at my old allotment site in London. I think he'd got it from an African allotmenteer. I didn't really want it, but I stuck it in the ground to be polite - it turned out to be great. I wish I still had it. An ugly looking plant, but useful! It had a purplish tinge to the leaves. I didn't realise how special they were.
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Sounds like there is lots and lots of more perennial kale varieties in existence... :o
Found this link about it..http://www.springerlink.com/content/c470641v217v1n60/ (http://www.springerlink.com/content/c470641v217v1n60/)
..now if they only would let some 'loose' to general public..
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I will leave a couple of Delaway to just be and see what happens if I don't harvest them.
XX Jeannine
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Oh good..proper growing 'trial'.. ;D
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Sounds like there is lots and lots of more perennial kale varieties in existence... :o
Found this link about it..http://www.springerlink.com/content/c470641v217v1n60/ (http://www.springerlink.com/content/c470641v217v1n60/)
..now if they only would let some 'loose' to general public..
I dropped the guy an email, which has been passed to the curator of perennial kales. I'll see what I can learn from them!
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Ohhh..well done Robert!!!! ;D It never come to my mind..was that 'pretty please' message or just info.. ;)
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Go for it Robert, I wonder of one from this side of the pond may interest him..I will wait till you hear though.
XX Jeannine
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So far I've gathered that it's really easy to raise cuttings, which makes me wonder how easy it is for other brassicas. Thousand-headed kale is regarded as the oldest extant type, but the perennial kales are probably also very old. The evidence they cite is the development of perennialism, but I'd add the frequent occurence of tetraploid strains, which they also cite. They're extremely rare among brassicas, but vegetative propagation would tend to preserve such mutations. So it looks as though we've found something really interesting!
Apparently, in Africa and Asia, perennial kales are preserved in areas where cabbages don't do well, but the picture may well be different in Europe. When they were preserved in places like Devon, the Netherlands, and (almost) Woburn, then something else is perhaps at work. It's been selected for superfluous branching - ie lots of leaves - at the expense of flowering, and I wonder whether the same applies, perhaps tp a lesser extent, to Thousand-Headed. Some clones are completely sterile, some flower occasionally, and others flower annually.
I've got copies of two papers besides the one in Goodlife's link, so if anyone wants copies, or needs the guy's email, drop me a PM.
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Yes please Robert..I would like to have a copy..I'll send you Pm about it..
As for cuttings of other kales.
I chopped off all the finished seed heads now and many of the old kale 'stools' are now pushing good amount of new growth..which I find interesting..I wonder what the quality of that growth is going to be comparing the previous new growth.
And...looks like the cuttings I took from those are going to root as they look very perky too.
And...I've got couple of caulis that I harvested this spring..from those 'stools' have sprouted new growth too :o
I've got right good meddly on that bed..flowering leeks..old caulis and kale.. ::)
I think I'm going to experiment with the cauli now..I'm going to see if I can take the new growth off with some roots already on or cuttings. They are spring flowering sort so they should have enough time to put growth on for next year..that's if I'm lucky with the cuttings.. ;D
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Has anyone grown Western Front Kale. it is supposed to be perennial for about 5 years, I just got seeds.
XX Jeannine
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Haven't heard about Western Front..I'm trying this year Thousand headed though.
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Ordered three lots so there will be some to share XX Jeannine
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;D ;) ;D
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I was just looking for thousand headed. I'm sure I've heard of Western Front, but I can't place it.
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I will send some over when it arrives and you can share, mayebe someone can send me some thousand headed.
Let me know how many to send for.. hiow many seeds a person do you think to get you going.
XX Jeannine
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Jeannine&Robert..I've got some seeds left in packet..I'm happy to split it between you two.. ;)
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Thank you,
I am just packing a few bits for you, do you want me to hang on and send the Western Front with the toms or are you waiting for them.. seeds are coming from US maybe quick but maybe not I can never quite figure it out to be sure, either way it is no problem..your choice.
XX Jeannine
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It was late last night when I wrote my message..I should have added ..I've got some thousand headed kale.. ;D
Jeannine...I'm not in hurry..I cannot sow them this year anymore so I'll be more than happy to wait..I'll just stroke my other seeds in mean while... ;D
I'll send you a PM..
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Thanks.
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Okey dokey.. I will send enough for Robert too and perhaps you can pass them on. XX Jeannine
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Will do.. ;D
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My first lot of cauli cuttings have rooted... now that I know it is possible I've done some more. They are spring caulis..I just have to wait and see if they should produce 'as usual'.
'Normal' kale cutting took too and they don't seem to be pushing any flower buds up..looking good... ;D...and the old kale 'stools' have really started to put new growth on. I've given them some fertilizer and water and hopefully they will keep cropping. Trouble with them is now that the land could do turning over.. ::)..but I'll wait and run the experiment till the plants either crop or drop ;D
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Just touching base, Western Front has not arrived here yet..slow shipper XX Jeannine
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I've now got a couple of large variegated Daubenton's plants, which are just beginning to branch. I'm not expecting to get anything big enough for a respectable cutting this year, but I should have some in the spring.
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That is great news Robert.
Just touching base here..the kale seeds I promised to share still haven't arrived but I am now told they have been shipped so I have not forgotten you, I will send to Goodlife who will share with Robert.
Re the Daubentons.. well, mentioning no names but she can if she is OK with that. I don't want her to be flooded with requests so............
A very kind poster has sent two lots of cuttings over, the first ones were toast, the second pair. I thought one stood a chance and the other was toast..but the first one is definitely growing as of just today I feel confident about it, and the toast one which was just a stick has started to put out a leaf so string to feel excited about that one too.. Hurrah!!
So thank you a million times over..
Now the funny bit.. if anyone remembers my birthday I mentioned on the site John had arrange d something but wouldn't tell me what.. well now I know.
Yesterday a parcel arrived and inside where the remains of 6 Chou Daubentons.. he had been in touch with my son in Holland. They bought the plants on line in France, had them shipped to Holland and my son then shipped them here, they have been in the mail two weeks at least.
So, three are totally shrivelled, the other three have tried to grow and are stretched and blanched, one is much smaller and looks as if it has had it but two look alive but white almost, all the leaves have gone but there are tiny white buds along the stems. They were in 4 inch pots and have fairly good thick stems.
Any ideas for rescue remedies..
Some are supposed to be variegated and some green but I can't tell which are which
What are my chances do you think..right now the cuttings from the UK look better so all m y hopes are on those.
I guess the guys meant well as John knew how hard I wanted them but I dare not think of the cost..neither of them are gardeners so no one thought to open them in Holland for a breather..
Funniest birthday surprise (shock) I ever had!!
XX Jeannine
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That's so sweet :D
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Jeannine...don't be in hurry to chuck out the 'lost' cases. I've had few that has sprouted from below the soil level even if the tops have looked like they've totally died down...and keep them in cooler environment, perharps outdoors in shelter. I've noticed that all brassica cuttings take better in cooler temperature than in warm GH or house.
Let's hope that your cuttings make it this time....
I've got some cuttings still rooting..but those will be last ones for this year before the winter sets in.
Ahhh...Sweet indeed..Your hubby has had 'radar' on for your pressie..well though.
The colours of different varieties come more clear when they grow bigger and are outdoors.
Well...let's hold breath and keep fingers crossed for your well travelled kales..and back up plan is rooting as I type.. ;)
Hmm..had another thought..if none of those should not grow..we could still try hardwood cuttings.
I was sent one that was just 'stick' with hardly any foliage on..and it did root..eventually..I wonder if that would 'travel' better.. :-\
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Goodlife. morning bulletin..
Variegated baby is picking up in leaps and bounds, it is now just staring to show a third new leaf
Stick babies plain green small leaf is very tiny but healthy and today there is the start of another leaf from the same spot, growing off the side of the stick, so I am confident that both of these are going to make it now barring accidents..
French juveniles..three seem to be turning from off white to pale green, very odd looking but they are trying hard.. three others are shrivelled but I have still kept them as the stem has not quite shrivelled right to soil level, but I would be amazed if they bounce back
The odd thing about these is, the box had three plants laid on there side, then a polystrene pack then the other three on top but only three had stickers on, variegated and plain, so I think in my haste to get them out of the box I didn't notice which came from where and I think they stickered only one layer, however two with stickers seem toast so it may mean that the bigger ones have some of each. There was a hole in the side of the box and I wonder if it let a bit of light in to the layer closest to it and that is why some toasted and some tried to grow,bit of air too.
Anyway, I am very happy with the cuttings from the UK..I think we have cracked it!!
Oh the pressure though, they are in there fighting for life and I am struggling with stress..and they are cabbages for goodness sake.. I think my cheese has slipped off my cracker for sure now!!
XX Jeannine
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Don't worry, if you're stuck there should be more cuttings next year! Meanwhile they seem pretty tough, and they're perennial after all.
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My French juveniles look very odd, they are bent at right angles, I guess fron trying to grow in the box, but then the full length of the stem which is about 10 inches long are buds, rather like brussell sprouts when they first show but the buds are pointed, they are not growing but are turning from white to green, definately changing each day..the buds are the full length of the stem every 1/2 inch or so and all round the stem too..does that sound right?
The three samaller ones are toast.
The two Uk ones are coming on fine.
XX Jeannine
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That sounds like a brassica that's lost it's leaves, and is sprouting again from buds in the leaf axils.
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Jeannine those 'pointed' thingies don't sound right.. ???
Do they look like flower stems?
If there is any leaves to support the growth..I would take the 'pointy' things off once you know that they are flower heads.
Any chance of photo of them?
Ohhh...I'm glad we've finally 'cracked' it..are the survivors both same sort of did you manage to revive one of each?
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Oh wonderful, then these three are surely going to be OK...yeahh..
Do you know if the three toast ones are likely to shoot from the stems too, the stalk has not totally shrivelled but they were clearly smaller plants than the other three anyway.
XX Jeannine
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Do you know if the three toast ones are likely to shoot from the stems tooIt is possible that they do..You would see tiny 'pin head' poking out of the old leaf 'scar' first..That will develop into new shoot.
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If you look at the base of a Daubenton's branch, you'll see lots of little knobbles which are incipient roots. You also get them at the nodes a way up the stem. If you put them in water they root out within about a week. I've got a very happy, well-branched Daubenton's that I would be happy to send people cuttings from, particularly as a swap for other perennial kale varieties.
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I have been fascinated by the talk about Daubenton and other perennial kales and would love a cutting of one from the people pioneering the propagation of them but I don't know yet what I could offer in exchange. At some point I will have to list what (borderline only!) exotics I have in case someone thinks them worthy of a swap.
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I just dug this old post 'out' and though that it would be interesting to hear what is going on in the perennial kale world.
My Russian red kale finally did knackered itself but it did manage to produce some leaves and flowers for good two years...propably longer if I would have given it more care and attention..but with the funny weather and all that, I didn't have enough motivation left for pampering.
My Daubenton's are still going strong..they've been attacked this winter with pigeons quite badly but don't seem to coming any harm as such. There is new growth coming on and actually pigeons did a favour for me.. :icon_cheers:..saved me a job of stripping all old leaves off.
Last year I sowed some Asturian tree cabbage..and its been winter survivor :icon_cheers: I'm going to have little 'play' with it and going to do some cuttings from it near future and see if they are keen to produce flowers or if they have potential for being another leafy crop for this year. One doesn't know if one doesn't try..
How's Daubenton from HSL seeds coming on for those who grew it?
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Hi Goodlife, mine from HSL is doing fine , well I think it is, it has survived the winter well and had nice green leaves all growing from a central stem though so I am not sure how I take cuttings. We have not picked any, they were too precious to eat and I wanted to get them off to a good chance. I have about 12 plants growing now.
XX Jeannine
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My Daubenton's has sailed through, pigeons and all. I might put some Asturian in this year, along with Ragged Jack and one or two others which I've yet to decide on.
Jeannine, it should grow long branches which you can break off for cuttings. If it hasn't done so yet, give it time.
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Thanks Robert, I will be patient, so far it has leaves much like a brussel sprout plant, but just leaves from the sides not branches. I also have some of Ruuds one at about the same stage, Eewig Moes ( or something like that)
XX Jeannine
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It's quite a big plant once it gets moving. You'll probably have masses by midsummer.
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Thanks Robert, I wasn't sure whether to pull leaves and use them last year but decided against it, is is quite tall about the same size as my Brussell sprouts and I have no idea how big it gets.
XX Jeannine
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anybody round stoke got any of this kale cuttings i can beg orbuy
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Ask again in a few months. I did have some but the winter seems to have finished them off. They're quite vulnerable until they get well established.
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What's the best time to take them?
I know this is old post...but here we go...(rather than starting whole new thread again)
Yesterday I took some cuttings from my Asturian Tree cabbage plants (seeds from The Real Seeds). I have often found it makes few non-flowering shoots at the bottom of the plant if one carry on removing flower shoots. It is really handy and I don't need to buy seeds all the time...just few plants will keep me in leaf supply and cuttings are so easy to do.
Real seeds state that this cabbage can be 'short lived perennial' ...but I do tend to take cuttings with all manner of brassicas if they have right kind of material for it...if nothing else 'just to fill some gaps' when some of the seed sown plants have been 'demolished' by the pest. These cabbage plants will be now 3rd 'generation clones' from few, originally seed sown plants. Interestingly I had couple of plants that have grown whole new non flowering branch while other half of the plant is in full bloom!
I take my cuttings and set them in mixture of 1/2 loambased compost + 1/2 MP compost with a little grit/sand for drainage...I set quite long stemmed cuttings in deep trimming the available leaf surface to minimum (leaving just small developing leaf from growing point and half a more mature leaf), putting the individual pots inside clear plastic bucket with lid almost fully on...and placing the bucket somewhere out of direct sun...like darker corner in GH.
I'm now waiting new growth to appear on my late flowering purple sprouting broccoli. One plant was particularly late and had much nicer crop than rest of the plants that all originated from same seed packet. I want more of same broccoli next year :icon_cheers:
I love when I can pick and choose best type of plants to crop again following year :icon_cheers: