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Produce => Non Edible Plants => Topic started by: gazzaroo on April 29, 2011, 18:51:49
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iv just ordered some of this stuff has and one used it befor..
http://www.progreen.co.uk/Weed-Killers/Total-Weed-Killers/Kurtail-0-5LTS/prod_2.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9Ph4blS0I this is were i found it
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Never come across it before gazzaroo. If it kills marestail it will be a first. In my experience it's unkillable :o Let us know how you get on please.
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The weed has a coating similar to a plastic raincoat which prevents any weed killer getting into it.
The suggestion is that you beat hell out of the horse tails first to break that coating then spray it.
Frankly the problem is more visual than practical. The weed is deep and does not actually affect other plants.
If you pluck out the tops often enough they do give up and move on after a few decades.
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If you pluck out the tops often enough they do give up and move on after a few decades.
;D ;D so will I!
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I dig out or snap off at least a hundred a day, I count, how sad. It is really getting going at the moment but it doesn't seem to affect the crops too much, so I just say don't get too paranoid about it. Lots of people have given up their sites because of it, Manuel dug very deep and thought he had got rid of it, but it has come back. Just off with my sandwiches to dig up my hundred for today.
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Wish my asparagus sprouted as many shoots !!!
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Learn to live with it.
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It was all over the bottom of my father's allotment, and it didn't seem to do much harm.
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The better the soil gets... the less of a problem it is... it survives where nothing else will... add a foot of manure... break off any shoots and grow anything that shades the surface.. like squash... it will disappear in about five years.
It won't be dead... it's been there since the dinosaurs but it just doesn't need the competition of real plants... :-X
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Dinosaurs? It was there when the first reptiles appeared. It was a major contributor to our coal seams. It's one of the great survivors, so don't expect it to give up and go away!
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I have eradicated it from one plot just by continuous digging and pulling, but it is in amongst my strawberry bed so unless I dig that up and start again, I have to live with it. At the moment, my strawb bed looks like a mini Christmas tree farm for gnomes. :)
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As said nothing known to man has killed it off
Just keep pulling the tops and they reckon it will give up one day
Or probably pop up on next doors plot
It doesn't affect your plants as the root goes deep
As said learn to live with it
:'(
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Got some (I think) in my small water garden, just straight stems, no leaves or anything. Looks nice.
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hi guys
iv put down the kurtail weed killer this week,, 3 days have past ..not much chance but i thinking its kicking in,,i,ll keep you posted
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its been about 5 days now and the kurtail weed killer looks like its working ,,the horse tail is going very black and not looking well..
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hi guys,,,must tell you the this kurtaill weed killer is killing of the horsetail,,,it all gone really black its all bent over and some of the little ones have gone,,,woop woop man kind can kill horsetail..i mite just win this and reclaim my allotment from this weed.. ;D ;D
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Any photos of the marestail Gazz, are there any side affects to neighbouring plants and does it state on the label whether you can grow edibles whilst it's taking affect. :-\
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Kurtail 0.5LT (previously Kibosh)
Total weed killer & also kills mare's tail / horse tail
Active Ingredient: 150g/lt glufosinate-ammonium
MAPP No: 15329
Rate : See label, 1000m2 per 0.5lt pack
Suggested safety clothing - safety clothing bundle (see Safety Clothing section or click here)
Kurtail is a non selective weed killer which kills all grass and broadleaved weeds it contacts in approximately 7 days.
At the rate recommended below, Kurtail weedkiller will give complete control of annual and perennial weeds including thistles, couch grass and the nightmare weed mare's tail (or horse tail).
Kurtail is degraded after contact with the soil and crops can be drilled or planted immediately after application except on sands or very light or immature peat soils. When using Kurtail on these soils allow 3 days to elapse before planting or drilling or before emergence of crops drilled prior to treatment. For best results treatment should be made to actively growing weeds between 1st March and 30th September. Kurtail works only when plants are actively growing.
Our recommended dilution rate is 25ml Kurtail to 1ltr water covers 50m2
For agricultural or horticultural non-cropped situations, apply 3.0 - 5.0 Litres/ha; use higher dose for perennial weed control. Mare's tail control requires the 5 Litres/ha rate.
http://www.progreen.co.uk/Weed-Killers/Total-Weed-Killers/Kurtail-0-5LTS/prod_2.html
ill sort some pic.s out
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when we took over our new lotti this Feb, there was no sign of Marestail. We dug our beds and amidst all the varying types of weed roots which I was mostly able to ID, there was one kind that I wasn't so sure about. There was zillions of these black, almost thin plasticky 'sheath' like tubes (inside was white string type fine root) which appeared dead to me. Unbeknown to me, we just took out what were the real, identifiable roots but not these tho'. Since the onset of Spring, say about March time, found Marestail in off-white/beige colour but the tops of them puffed out some kind of powder. To me, it looked suspiciously like Marestail, but in a different colour and texture. Now in most of the beds that have been turned a couple of times before sowing/planting, we found there was hardly any new Marestail to be growing. Only one or two beds that haven't been so rigorously dug over, there has been a couple of them sprouting. The rest of the plot with grass/bramble/rosebay willow herb/nettle that haven't been cultivated, the Marestail is allover the shop. :o :o :o
So I think by digging and rooting out all the roots, I think we've destroyed the Marestail from establishing itself. Do you think that is the case? Or am I to face more problems later in the year with the existing ones in the grass/cultivated areas? ??? ???
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got some pic/s of the horsetail in my profile now,,,
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we,v had are allotments just under 2 years now , we started with now,t just weeds up to my knee's and lots of horsetail. we'v dug it out and dug it out and dug it out. we.v rounded up time and time again. i don't this year is as bad as last year but it coming up hard now..now am trying to take it out with this stuff kurtail and going around with a hand held watter sprayer just hitting the horsetail am going to stop pulling it up cos every little bit left behind when pulling up seems even more :o
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Is it safe to put horsetail/marestail on the compost heap?
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no don't..burn it,, i burn it all using old wood and making pot ash for the veg beds
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Cheers for that Gazz, the marestail has really took hold, I can see now why you sprayed it, I had visions of it being like mine spread about but no problem for planting in, but I can see yours is a lot worse, when winter digging I found quite a few deab bits and bagged them up but you won't see it growing until early spring, April was when mine was popping up, I hoe mine deep and chop off and bag and bin all of mine. ???
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no don't..burn it,, i burn it all using old wood and making pot ash for the veg beds
Ah. Well I know what I'll be doing at the weekend then ::)
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hi guys just an update on my war with horsetail..its about 4 weeks now and the horsetail is dead its just snaps like a twig ..yeep eee im runing around my plots with a my sparer kill of the little bits coming thew.working and my veg.